Flyer opponents 2018-19 and games of note

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by ud2 BG and USF are playing in the CBI...DePaul and West Virginia too. Rough year for Huggins. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019...l_Invitational CIT field: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019...son_Tournament

Typical year for BG, 11-2 OOC, 8-10 in the American.

[JimBo]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 Typical year for BG, 11-2 OOC, 8-10 in the American.

The previous 3 seasons before BG took over, the program won a total of 23 games.

I know it's popular to bash the former coach here, but context......

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by JimBo The previous 3 seasons before BG took over, the program won a total of 23 games. I know it's popular to bash the former coach here, but context......

Georgia Tech certainly improved after they got rid of BG . . . not!

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[Glen Clark]

Results for Tuesday, March 19 and upcoming games:

Tuesday, March 19:
5) Dayton (21-12) 73 @ Colorado (22-12) 78
5) Lipscomb (26-7) 89 @ 4) Davidson (24-10) 81
*****NIT

Wednesday, March 20:
5) Butler (16-16) @ 4) Nebraska
*****NIT
Presbyterian (18-15) @ Seattle (18-14)
*****CIT

Thursday, March 21:
12) New Mexico State (30-4) @ 5) #14 Auburn (26-9)
*****NCAA


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[Glen Clark]

Results for Wednesday, March 20 and upcoming games:

Wednesday, March 20:
5) Butler (16-17) 76 @ 4) Nebraska (19-16) 80
*****NIT
Presbyterian (19-15) 73 @ Seattle (18-15) 68
*****CIT

Thursday, March 21:
12) New Mexico State (30-4) @ 5) #14 Auburn (26-9)
*****NCAA

Friday, March 22:
16) Gardner-Webb (23-11) @ 1) #2 Virginia (29-3)
12) Liberty (28-6) @ 5) Mississippi State (23-10)
9) UCF (23-8) @ 8) VCU (25-7)
9) Oklahoma (19-13) @ 8) Ole Miss (20-12)
13) Saint Louis (23-12) @ 4) #16 Virginia Tech (24-8)
*****NCAA


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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Glen Clark]

BG's boys prevail in overtime against Stony Brook, advance in the CBI tournament:

Stony Brook (24-9) 79 @ South Florida (20-11) 82

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[ud2]

I like that Huggins was willing to play in the CBI and not consider that to be beneath him.

He finished 14-20 this year, so I am sure that he wants to work on improving his team, and he could get as many as 6 extra games and 2-3 weeks of additional practice out of this. The finals are a best of 3 series.

His first 2 games are home games too, no additional travel so far.

[Glen Clark]

Dayton opponents

Thursday, March 21:
12) New Mexico State (30-5) 77 @ 5) #14 Auburn (27-9) 78
*****NCAA

Friday, March 22:
16) Gardner-Webb (23-11) @ 1) #2 Virginia (29-3)
12) Liberty (28-6) @ 5) Mississippi State (23-10)
9) UCF (23-8) @ 8) VCU (25-7)
9) Oklahoma (19-13) @ 8) Ole Miss (20-12)
13) Saint Louis (23-12) @ 4) #16 Virginia Tech (24-8)
*****NCAA

Saturday, March 23:
5) #14 Auburn (27-9) @ 4) #17 Kansas (26-9)
*****NCAA

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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[312to937]

Not looking good for A10 so far tonight. Both VCU and Saint Louis down by double digits. Billikens stuck at 6 points after 9 minutes of play.
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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by 312to937 Not looking good for A10 so far tonight. Both VCU and Saint Louis down by double digits. Billikens stuck at 6 points after 9 minutes of play. Posted via Mobile Device

Looking bad so far- St. Louis is imploding
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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[TommyGola]

That is what happens when you shut down their bigs. They are a poor shooting team. Unfortunately, the Flyers could not contend with their front line.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 Looking bad so far- St. Louis is imploding Posted via Mobile Device

St. Louis had 1 advantage over their opponents for most of this season: they were the playground bully. They could get by on suffocating defense and “chuck and crash” offense. That’s all well and good when the other team runs a 3-guard offense and their Power Forward goes 6’6” and 200. But when you go against a team that can match you inch-for-inch and pound-for-pound, you’d better also have some identifiable basketball skills. SLU doesn’t have a lot of those skills. Thus, the score of 36-15 Hokies with 3:00 to go in the first half.
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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Furio]

the St Louis defense is being carved up as well.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Wow, impressive post season by the A-10. (sarcasm alert!)

Only 4 teams even make the post season, everyone loses, and both our teams in the Big dance blown out.

Hoping and praying an invitation falls into our lap to get the hell out of the sinking ship A-10. Yes, probably a pipe dream, but the ship is sinking. Serve me crow next March when I am proven wrong.

Yes, I am drinking, Coffeecan is a great inspiration with his drunk posts!

[TA111]

SLU and VCU embarrassing themselves. I figured this would happen to SLU, but VCU surprises me. At least make it competitive.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by TommyGola That is what happens when you shut down their bigs. They are a poor shooting team. Unfortunately, the Flyers could not contend with their front line.

Actually in the A10 tourney it was their guards who played over their heads. They are now reverting to form.

[longtimefan67]

Suddenly VCU is alive
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[FlyingArrow]

Rooting for UCF just so we can see Tacko play again.

[Rick Scaia]

Originally Posted by FlyingArrow Rooting for UCF just so we can see Tacko play again.

Same. I can't wrap my head around the fact that guy exists. Tacko. Zion. Appointment TV.

Screw the A-10's precious reputation. We sucked this year, and most intelligent basketball fans know it's an aberration to be ignored. One win, concluding after midnight, in the round of 64, isn't gonna move that needle.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 Suddenly VCU is alive Posted via Mobile Device

Nah, got trounced by UCF.

[SeasonTicketFan]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan Wow, impressive post season by the A-10. (sarcasm alert!) Only 4 teams even make the post season, everyone loses, and both our teams in the Big dance blown out. Hoping and praying an invitation falls into our lap to get the hell out of the sinking ship A-10. Yes, probably a pipe dream, but the ship is sinking. Serve me crow next March when I am proven wrong. Yes, I am drinking, Coffeecan is a great inspiration with his drunk posts!

St. Louis might be the exception, but a big reason the A10 was down this year was the lack of upperclassmen. UD graduated only one scholarship player. Duquesne was all freshman and sophomores, and so on....

In mid major college basketball, having upperclassmen is critical. A10 does not get one and dones.

I expect the entire league, except for the usual bottom feeders to be much stronger next year.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Glen Clark]

Dayton opponents

Friday, March 22:
16) Gardner-Webb (23-12) 56 @ 1) #2 Virginia (30-3) 71
12) Liberty (29-6) 80 @ 5) Mississippi State (23-11) 76
9) UCF (24-8) 73 @ 8) VCU (25-8) 58
9) Oklahoma (20-13) 95 @ 8) Ole Miss (20-13) 72
13) Saint Louis (23-13) 52 @ 4) #16 Virginia Tech (25-8) 66
*****NCAA

Saturday, March 23:
5) #14 Auburn (27-9) @ 4) #17 Kansas (26-9)
*****NCAA

Sunday, March 24:
9) Oklahoma (20-13) @ 1) #2 Virginia (30-3)
*****NCAA


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[Buckleyma]

The Atlantic 10 conference did not show well in either the NCAA nor NIT. Every team was a one-and-done. Dayton, Davidson, VCU and St. Louis all lost in their very first game.
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[Don]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan St. Louis might be the exception, but a big reason the A10 was down this year was the lack of upperclassmen. UD graduated only one scholarship player. Duquesne was all freshman and sophomores, and so on.... In mid major college basketball, having upperclassmen is critical. A10 does not get one and dones. I expect the entire league, except for the usual bottom feeders to be much stronger next year.

All very true. But these results illustrate just how much improvement improvement is needed next season for the flyers to reach the top 25 vicinity. Teams we couldn't handle this season were embarrassed by two opponents ranked #16 and not even in top 25. I know we are all hoping for a big improvement but these results indicate we need a HUGE improvement to get to the top 25. My fingers are crossed but past experience make me temper my hopes with memories of reality. We will have 2 4-stars and a bunch of 3s, not a squad of 4s and 5s.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Glen Clark]

Saturday, March 23:
5) #14 Auburn (28-9) 89 @ 4) #17 Kansas (26-10) 75
*****NCAA

Sunday, March 24:
9) Oklahoma (20-13) @ 1) #2 Virginia (30-3)
*****NCAA

Monday, March 25:
8) Norfolk State (22-13) 4) Colorado (22-12)
*****NIT


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[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by Don My fingers are crossed but past experience make me temper my hopes with memories of reality. We will have 2 4-stars and a bunch of 3s, not a squad of 4s and 5s.

recent experiences like 2013-14 where we followed an 11th place A10 finish (and no post season) with an elite 8 run?

[Glen Clark]

Sunday, March 24:
9) Oklahoma (20-14) 51 @ 1) #2 Virginia (31-3) 63
*****NCAA
Presbyterian (20-15) 77 @ Robert Morris (18-17) 70
*****CIT

Monday, March 25:
8) Norfolk State (22-13) # 4) Colorado (22-12)
*****NIT

Tuesday, March 26:
Presbyterian (20-15) @ Marshall (20-14)
*****CIT

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[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by Rick Scaia Same. I can't wrap my head around the fact that guy exists. Tacko. Zion. Appointment TV. Screw the A-10's precious reputation. We sucked this year, and most intelligent basketball fans know it's an aberration to be ignored. One win, concluding after midnight, in the round of 64, isn't gonna move that needle.

I'm so glad I'm not a UCF fan. That was painful to watch as a neutral observer. All in the last 2 minutes: missed layup, a 3pt play for Zion, two buzzer-beaters that miss by a hair. Any one of those things going UCF's way would have swung the game.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by FlyingArrow I'm so glad I'm not a UCF fan. That was painful to watch as a neutral observer. All in the last 2 minutes: missed layup, a 3pt play for Zion, two buzzer-beaters that miss by a hair. Any one of those things going UCF's way would have swung the game.

Giving up a rebound on a missed FT too.

Also did anyone notice when they came back from the under 8 timeout and UCF was shooting a FT. How was that only a one and one? Zion clearly fouled the guy on a shot before the timeout. Even Jim Nantz thought it was going to 2 shots. But there was never an explanation.

[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Giving up a rebound on a missed FT too. Also did anyone notice when they came back from the under 8 timeout and UCF was shooting a FT. How was that only a one and one? Zion clearly fouled the guy on a shot before the timeout. Even Jim Nantz thought it was going to 2 shots. But there was never an explanation.

Maybe there was a foul away from the ball before the shot? Wild guess.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by FlyingArrow Maybe there was a foul away from the ball before the shot? Wild guess.

Its possible but the play by play has the foul on Zion and the guy he fouled was the one shooting.

[Glen Clark]

Monday, March 25:
8) Norfolk State (22-14) 60 @ 4) Colorado (23-12) 76
*****NIT

Tuesday, March 26:
Presbyterian (20-15) @ Marshall (20-14)
*****CIT

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[Glen Clark]

BG's boys advance to the CBI semifinals with a win over Utah Valley:

Utah Valley (25-10) 57 @ South Florida (21-13) 66

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[San Diego Flyer]

[QUOTE=Glen Clark;582362]Monday, March 25:
8) Norfolk State (22-14) 60 @ 4) Colorado (23-12) 76
[QUOTE]


That makes me barf. It's the kind of draw X often gets to the Sweet 16.
Missed a golden opportunity. Sigh.
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[T-Bone 84]

[QUOTE=San Diego Flyer;582391][QUOTE=Glen Clark;582362]Monday, March 25:
8) Norfolk State (22-14) 60 @ 4) Colorado (23-12) 76

That makes me barf. It's the kind of draw X often gets to the Sweet 16. Missed a golden opportunity. Sigh. _____________________

That’s why those close losses this past season were such a dagger. 1 more win, and we’d have been a 3 or 4 seed and hosting a game instead of playing on the road. 2 more wins? 1 or 2 Seed. 3 more wins or more? Possibly/probably dancing.
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[Glen Clark]

Dayton opponents

Tuesday, March 26:
Presbyterian (20-16) 66 @ Marshall (21-14) 83
*****CIT

Wednesday, March 27:
4) Colorado (23-12) @ 2) Texas (18-16)
*****NIT

Thursday, March 28:
12) Oregon (25-12) @ 1) #2 Virginia (31-3)
*****NCAA


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[ud2]

Archie loses to 6 seed Gregg Marshall and Wichita State again, 73-63. He can't beat those guys, lol.

Creighton loses at TCU, 71-58.

WSU and TCU to the NIT Final 4.

The other 2 NIT Elite 8 games are tonight.

[Glen Clark]

And then there were two . . .

Wednesday, March 27:
4) Colorado (23-13) 55 @ 2) Texas (19-16) 68
*****NIT

Thursday, March 28:
12) Oregon (25-12) @ 1) #2 Virginia (31-3)
*****NCAA

Friday, March 29:
5) #14 Auburn (28-9) @ 1) #3 North Carolina (29-6)
*****NCAA


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[Glen Clark]

All 10 Big East teams went to the post season.
Villanova won a game in the NCAA tournament.
Xavier won a game in the NIT.
Creighton won two games in the NIT.
With their third win tonight: Coastal Carolina (17-17) 87 @ DePaul (18-15) 92,
DePaul moves into the CBI best-of-three finals. Their opponent will be Loyola Marymount or South Florida (BG's boys).
DePaul will finish with their first winning season in twelve years.

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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[UD62]

Would appear that the Blue Demons are making some progress. A ways to go but moving in the right direction.

[Glen Clark]

Thursday, March 28:
12) Oregon (25-13) 49 @ 1) #2 Virginia (32-3) 53
*****NCAA

Friday, March 29:
5) #14 Auburn (28-9) @ 1) #3 North Carolina (29-6)
*****NCAA

Saturday, March 30:
3) #13 Purdue (26-9) @ 1) #2 Virginia (32-3)
*****NCAA


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[Glen Clark]

Loyola Marymount (22-12) 47 @ South Florida (22-13) 56

Originally Posted by UD62 Would appear that the Blue Demons are making some progress. A ways to go but moving in the right direction.

Best out of three, DePaul vs South Florida for the CBI title, starting April 1 at the Yuengling Center, Tampa, Florida.

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[Radar]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark Best out of three, DePaul vs South Florida for the CBI title, starting April 1 at the Yuengling Center, Tampa, Florida.

Get your tickets now before they're gone!

[CT Flyer]

Here we go its Duke gets all the calls time...

[TX Flyer]

Duke catching more breaks in a few games than we get in a year

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer Duke catching more breaks in a few games than we get in a year

Must be nice to live in a world where your feces has no aroma.

And pity the poor slob who becomes their HC after Ratface retires. There’s an ever-increasing amount of Karma awaiting that successor.
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[Glen Clark]

Friday, March 29:
5) #14 Auburn (29-9) 97 @ 1) #3 North Carolina (29-7) 80
*****NCAA

Saturday, March 30:
3) #13 Purdue (26-9) @ 1) #2 Virginia (32-3)
*****NCAA

Sunday, March 31:
5) #14 Auburn (29-9) @ 2) #7 Kentucky (30-6)


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[jack72]

Wow, that was the Auburn team we saw down there. They could win the ACC tourney if they get Okeke back. No word on his injury, but it was called serious.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by jack72 Wow, that was the Auburn team we saw down there. They could win the ACC tourney if they get Okeke back. No word on his injury, but it was called serious.

Don’t know if Auburn can win the ACC Tourney, since they’re in the SEC (sorry, jack72 - I had to). But they still have a chance to win the NCAA tournament, as they just made it past Kentucky (in OT) to earn a place in the Final Four.

And when was the last time we faced 2 teams in the regular season that wound-up in the Final Four? Is this a first?
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[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 And when was the last time we faced 2 teams in the regular season that wound-up in the Final Four? Is this a first? Posted via Mobile Device

Not sure about that, but when was the last time we beat a team that wound up in the Final Four? I believe it was Marquette with Dwayne Wade, 02-03, 92-85 in OT. If there was one more recently I can't recall it. That game helped us get the #4 seed but then we flamed out against Tulsa in OP's last game.

[jack72]

Great game by Auburn, and in beating a good KY team they have lost two twice. Okeke is done for the year, so it will be tough to pull it off. I am rooting for them.

The ACC Tourney is down to one.

[Glen Clark]

Dayton opponents march on


Saturday, March 30:
3) #13 Purdue (26-10) 75 @ 1) #2 Virginia (33-3) 80 (OT)
*****NCAA

Sunday, March 31:
5) #14 Auburn (30-9) 77 @ 2) #7 Kentucky (30-7) 71 (OT)
*****NCAA

Saturday, April 6:
5) #14 Auburn (30-9) @ 1) #2 Virginia (33-3)
*****NCAA

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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by jack72 Great game by Auburn, and in beating a good KY team they have lost two twice. Okeke is done for the year, so it will be tough to pull it off. I am rooting for them. The ACC Tourney is down to one.

After all the shizzit that came out about Sparty athletics a couple years ago, I’m not the biggest Izzo fan in the world, but it sure was nice to see a team from the Midwest take-down Kryzimapompousazzski. Perhaps Karma paid him a brief visit?
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[jack72]

Love it because the kings of one and dones, Duke and UK, are gone. No doubt those two had the best players, but teamwork and playing all phases of the game gets you the Final 4 this year.

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by jack72 Love it because the kings of one and dones, Duke and UK, are gone. No doubt those two had the best players, but teamwork and playing all phases of the game gets you the Final 4 this year.

Duke's players are studs. UK's players aren't much better than the other final 4 teams. Auburn was clearly more athletic than them. Anyone who uses a first round pick on Herro is making a big mistake.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark Best out of three, DePaul vs South Florida for the CBI title, starting April 1 at the Yuengling Center, Tampa, Florida.

DePaul (18-16) 61 @ South Florida (23-13) 63

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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark DePaul (18-16) 61 @ South Florida (23-13) 63 _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

Glad to see BG and his guys won Game 1. It will be interesting to see how the next game (or 2) goes. Adjustments (or the lack thereof) were a big Achilles heel for him in his 8 years in charge of our Flyers.
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[ud2]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Here we go its Duke gets all the calls time...

Originally Posted by TX Flyer Duke catching more breaks in a few games than we get in a year

I thought that the end of the Duke game was ironic, Duke would have been better off with more team fouls so that they could send Michigan State to the foul line.

A steal was the only way Duke could get the ball back.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by ud2 I thought that the end of the Duke game was ironic, Duke would have been better off with more team fouls so that they could send Michigan State to the foul line. A steal was the only way Duke could get the ball back.

Bad coaching by K...if you know there is a possibility you might need to foul at the end and you have fouls to give to get there you can be ultra aggressive on D and if you get a steal great if not you're closer to getting in the one and one.

[jack72]

I have a feeling that Coach K did not enjoy this team. Their shot selection at times was atrocious, lots of turnovers and they played their best defense only when they wanted to. I suspect a few of those kids are out to sharpen their own resume, and do not listen to his coaching.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by jack72 I have a feeling that Coach K did not enjoy this team. Their shot selection at times was atrocious, lots of turnovers and they played their best defense only when they wanted to. I suspect a few of those kids are out to sharpen their own resume, and do not listen to his coaching.

Probably more than a few but that's what he sold his soul for and what he has created. I don't feel bad for him and his gigantic ego.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by jack72 I have a feeling that Coach K did not enjoy this team. Their shot selection at times was atrocious, lots of turnovers and they played their best defense only when they wanted to. I suspect a few of those kids are out to sharpen their own resume, and do not listen to his coaching.

Frankly, I have no sympathy for Coach K or the Duke program. This is precisely what happens when you recruit a bunch of "one and done" primadonna types. Kentucky suffered the same issues - these one-and-done types are far more concerned about their budding NBA careers than they are about a college team or academics.

[Medford]

Well, frankly, shouldn't they be? I mean I went to college to perfect (or at least sharpen) my engineering skills, others go to perfect their teaching skills. If I had a firm offer me $500K after one year in college saying they could teach me the rest, but my skills were good enough to compete now, I'd have jumped at that (who wouldn't) Now multiple that number by 10 and the choice is even more obvious.


I've seen no signs that the kids at UK or Duke are selfish or are not there for coaching. Honestly, many of them have had to check their ego at the door to join a team of other budding NBA stars. What they do lack is experience and poise that only age can bring. This is their first time on a truly national stage where their every move is scrutinized. They are still 18-19 year old young adults that are going to make mistakes along the way. I've seen atrocious shot selections from 30 year old NBA vets, why would I not expect a 19 year old kid to take a few bad shots in their first (and sometimes only) NCAA tournament?


I have no sympathy for them, its the route they've signed up for (and are paid handsomely for it) but I see a lot of jumping to conclusions. Winning an NCAA title is hard; I think we can leave it at that.

[IndianaFlyer]

Originally Posted by jack72 I have a feeling that Coach K did not enjoy this team. Their shot selection at times was atrocious, lots of turnovers and they played their best defense only when they wanted to. I suspect a few of those kids are out to sharpen their own resume, and do not listen to his coaching.

Another indicator of bad coaching, players not executing and doing what they are told. Fire coach K. Yes, this is sarcasm.
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[CE80]

https://sports.yahoo.com/coach-k-cal...004351154.html

Probably as good of a place to post this as any. Someone like Coach K thinks there needs to be a new vision because maybe some of the revenue will be lost and of course with less revenue, people like him would see less.

I think most college bball fans would be happy if things went a little more back to the old student/athlete days. College sports should not be a minor league for pro sports. Those do exist if one wants to go that route. There is too much sponsorship money from TV, apparel and other companies. It goes to coaches and administrators. They all could survive on much less.

[jack72]

How can we sympathize with a guy who has won that many games and championships and makes $8 million. Are we jealous? Yes, but no sympathy.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Frankly, I have no sympathy for Coach K or the Duke program. This is precisely what happens when you recruit a bunch of "one and done" primadonna types. Kentucky suffered the same issues - these one-and-done types are far more concerned about their budding NBA careers than they are about a college team or academics.

I also have little sympathy for Coach K/Duke and am typically a Duke "hater". However, I don't think it's fair to characterize "one and dones" as primadonnas that don't care about their college team. Those Duke one and dones were fully vested physically and emotionally in that team and their quest for a national title.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER I also have little sympathy for Coach K/Duke and am typically a Duke "hater". However, I don't think it's fair to characterize "one and dones" as primadonnas that don't care about their college team. Those Duke one and dones were fully vested physically and emotionally in that team and their quest for a national title.

I would usually agree about the athletes but it still doesn't make me feel any sympathy for Coach K or Duke. But the word on the street was Cam Reddish had checked out on Coach K and the team because he didn't feel he was being used correctly in their offense so this year there may be some truth that at least one player was not all in on the team concept.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer IBut the word on the street was Cam Reddish had checked out on Coach K and the team because he didn't feel he was being used correctly in their offense so this year there may be some truth that at least one player was not all in on the team concept.

I hadn't heard that. But that seems to happen anywhere and everywhere - player disgruntled with their role, playing time, etc. - so they get tagged as "checked out", be it legitimately or mis-characterized - then they transfer in most cases, or in Cam's case, they go to the NBA.

It's all good. I'm no Dookie and am certainly not a fan of the one and done model. I just didn't think it was fair or accurate to suggest the one and dones are prima donnas and not team focused. The overwhelming majority of them don't seem to be such.

[jack72]

I watched a bunch of Duke games, and to say the players do not try or do not want to win is a reach. Those level of players are winners and give 100%. Duke's problem was they struggle to play as a team, so bad shot selection, or vice versa. Most freshmen struggle to play good defense the whole game, and struggle with help defense. Duke and UK saw plenty of that.

[Marysville Flyer]

Move this discussion away from sports and I think we’d have a lot more agreement.

Anyone here not aware of business people, broadcasters, politicians that don’t always have the best interest of the org or company in mind but are selfishly using it for nothing more than a platform or stepping stone to take them where they cant as easily get on their own?

Why wouldn’t we see the same thing out of high profile athletes that are typically much younger and less mature?
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[IndianaFlyer]

Originally Posted by jack72 I watched a bunch of Duke games, and to say the players do not try or do not want to win is a reach. Those level of players are winners and give 100%. Duke's problem was they struggle to play as a team, so bad shot selection, or vice versa. Most freshmen struggle to play good defense the whole game, and struggle with help defense. Duke and UK saw plenty of that.

Jack72, I don't think anyone said they don't try or don't want to win. I think the argument is that sometimes the focus of one and done players is more on "me" than on the "team." They can certainly be more self centered than team centered and still hate to lose.
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[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer Move this discussion away from sports and I think we’d have a lot more agreement. Anyone here not aware of business people, broadcasters, politicians that don’t always have the best interest of the org or company in mind but are selfishly using it for nothing more than a platform or stepping stone to take them where they cant as easily get on their own? Why wouldn’t we see the same thing out of high profile athletes that are typically much younger and less mature? Posted via Mobile Device

Oh yes, very prevalent in all facets of industry and professional environments. What we all hope for are scenarios and situations where that platform, and the leverage thereof, is in parallel with the company's or team's goals and objectives. Summary - a player or employee can be a selfish, "me first" kind of person, as long as the results of that approach are in line with what's best for the company/team. It's when that behavior or attitude diverts from that or disrupts on a whole, when problems develop. Obviously, there are litany of other intangibles that are part of these environments that factor in as well - are you a good teammate? Good communication skills? Trust and transparency? Etc., etc., etc. Some of these can even be "faked", but will ultimately only last for so long before the core of it will be exposed. In the era of one and dones, given it's just a year (actually less), you can probably get away with it.

[CE80]

I'm no Duke or Coach K lover but he got them within a point of a Final Four. I do believe that teams with more experience but a little less talent will prevail over teams with more talent and less experience. The experience especially helps in these big games. The longer the players play together, the more connected they are and again this is especially important in these big games.

[Viperstick]

I know it’s the secondary tourney & no one we played is still in it, but Lipscomb is crushing it in the NIT.

Five seed, all road games to reach MSG. Took out Wichita State last night and playing Shaka’s Longhorns for the championship. Last year was their first ever NCAA tourney appearance and this is only their second NIT appearance. They do have an NAIA championship and were a regular tourney participant before moving up.

I hope the Bison can win it

[Glen Clark]

- NOT -

South Florida (23-14) 96 @ DePaul (19-16) 100 (OT)

CBI finals tied at one apiece.

_____________________
Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark - NOT - South Florida (23-14) 96 @ DePaul (19-16) 100 (OT) CBI finals tied at one apiece. _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

I watched a few minutes.

That game was not played at DePaul's normal, larger Wintrust Arena, located by the convention center near the lake, this game was played at the smaller McGrath-Phillips Arena on campus.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

I have watched most of the CBI games of South Florida, both of the Depaul games. Both games extremely physical and Depaul is huge. They didn't play at Wintrust because it was already rented out for a couple of days. Don't know if it's available for Friday's game, a little under 2000 for last night's contest, but it looked full. Announcers said if South Florida wins , they would record the biggest turnaround in CBB this year.

NIT - Lipscomb is very good and very well may win. Shaka does have Texas playing better than they did most of the year. They want to win. Should be a good game.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan I have watched most of the CBI games of South Florida, both of the Depaul games. Both games extremely physical and Depaul is huge. They didn't play at Wintrust because it was already rented out for a couple of days. Don't know if it's available for Friday's game, a little under 2000 for last night's contest, but it looked full. Announcers said if South Florida wins , they would record the biggest turnaround in CBB this year.

Big defensive improvement...kenpom #261 to 41 in defense from last year to this year...offense is still up at 212 though.

[ud2]

Texas defeats Lipscomb 81-66 to win the NIT.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ud2 Texas defeats Lipscomb 81-66 to win the NIT.

Congratulations to Shaka and his guys. Nice to see a former Flyer coach succeed. That said, I’ll admit that I was pulling for Lipscomb to get the upset victory. I do love the underdog.

Let’s see if BG can make it 2-for-2 tonight at DePaul.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ud2 Big defensive improvement...kenpom #261 to 41 in defense from last year to this year...offense is still up at 212 though.

No surprise with either of those numbers. BG’s teams are known for defense, and it’s clear from that improvement in the KenPom rating that this year’s USF squad took that coaching to heart. That said, BG’s teams are also known to struggle on offense, so a KenPom rating that’s around the 40th percentile may be as good as it gets at USF.
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[frisco flyer]

Kudos to BG and the Bulls for winning the CBI.
They beat DePaul on the road going away 77-65

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Kudos to BG and the Bulls for winning the CBI. They beat DePaul on the road going away 77-65

Yep. Saw most of the game. Happy for BG. He has that program moving in the right direction. Congrats, USF.
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[tirebiter]

Auburn vs Virginia just getting underway. We played them both pretty strong. Who do you think has the edge today?

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by tirebiter Auburn vs Virginia just getting underway. We played them both pretty strong. Who do you think has the edge today?

Virginia, IMO. They’ll make more plays down the stretch and should be able to control the pace with their defense and the fact that they don’t send too many to the offensive glass, which will limit Auburn’s typical breakneck pace. I think Auburn will need a fair amount of transition baskets to win this.

[T-Bone 84]

Un-friggin-believable...
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[ud69]

What an ending to the UVA/Auburn game! We all are often critical of officials. However, I must give credit to the official who called the foul on the three point attempt with .6 seconds to go. It was the right call as the Auburn player clearly bumped the legs of the UVA player while he was in the air on the shot. The officials often swallow their whistles in that situation. Of course, the UVA player (Guy) still had to hit the free throws - and he did.

[frisco flyer]

I agree, the foul call was a good call. Not calling the double dribble just before that play was a big miss by the refs.

Auburn fans will remember this game for a very bitter long time.

[cj]

I thought they just said on tv that it wasn’t double dribble. I was talking to my wife so I may have not heard that correctly.

My prediction - the ref that made the call will receive death threats. Every one should be investigated and prosecuted if the evidence is there.
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[cj]

The double dribble call is one for our resident referee, King Rollo.
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[cj]

Never mind. Just explained. It was DD.
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[TXFlyerFan]

That's tough on Auburn. If they call the DD, which they should have, never would have come down to that. However, they didn't, and that was a foul on the 3pt shot. I know they don't call a lot of stuff under the basket where there's a lot of movement going on but they had to call it on that shot.

[jack72]

That was a no doubter foul on the three point attempt. You have to call it when it is that obvious. Now the non-call of the double dribble is a flat out blown call. That ref will spend some sleepless nights on that one.

What made it worse is that the Auburn defender seems to know the VA kid had picked up his dribble, so he hesitated and let the kid drive by him, and had to grab the kid's shorts, which gave VA a set play out of bounds.

[T-Bone 84]

Yeah, the foul on the shot was a good call. On the replay, Sterratore explained it, and the contact with the lower body in the act of shooting was obvious. I didn’t realize that the play leading up to it, however, was a double-dribble. Of course, I don’t get paid to make that call. The ref who did get paid to make that call may need to go into the witness protection program. Not condoning such retribution, mind you. That would be unquestionably wrong. But there are asshats out there.
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[CT Flyer]

Am I the only one that thinks Raftery has become overbearing? He used to be the best but now everything he says is just one big schtick.

[Monster Man]

No, Raftery needs to retire from broadcasting. His act is as tired as Dickie V’s.
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[ud2]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...day-april-6th/


Agree on the missed double dribble no call, the UVA player double dribbled at the 2:30 mark. He can't touch the ball with both hands when he picks the ball up after the ball bounces off of his shoes.

[ud2]

Better link...3:40 mark...definitely a dd.

+ YouTube Video

[Yorkshire Flyer]

Not saying there wasn't a foul on that last play but considering how they had called the game up to that point, the call made little sense. But what I was totally confused about was the double dribble no call. My daughter and myself were screaming at the TV about the double dribble. We never even bothered watching the 2nd game.

But it was a Great Time watching with my wife and daughter.