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Old 02-01-2013, 08:40 PM
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Saint Louis Game Thread

Shake off the loss... Get after it! Rebound the F'ing Ball!

Starting Lineup:

G 3 Kwamain Mitchell 5’10” 175 SR Milwaukee, WI
G 11 Mike McCall Jr. 6’0” 180 JR Chicago, IL
F 21 Dwayne Evans 6’5” 230 JR Bolingbrook, IL
F 1 Grandy Glaze 6’6” 235 SO Toronto, ONT
C 51 Rob Loe 6’11” 245 JR Auckland, NZ

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Old 02-02-2013, 12:06 PM
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I have NBCS at home but I am out of town for the weekend. Anybody know of a stream? First Row Sports maybe?

May be stuck with Bucky and Larry...
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:22 PM
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I hate watching games against St. Louis. It's guaranteed to be slow, low scoring and long.

Win and it'll be worth it. Lose, and it was a complete waste of time I could have better spent at the gym.
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SLU didn't play that slow against Butler, even with a pretty good lead.
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The only games worse than the St Louis are Miami of Ohio. I hope the new coach has them playing at a better pace. Normally these are yawners with the teams shooting about 35%.

That being said UD should press, trap and run.
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I am very interested to see who starts the game for UD? Will Archie keep the same 5 or will he change it up...
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According to SLU stattracker... Jalen is starting over Josh... deservedly so
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And I hope Scott comes off the bench before Benson.
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The big question is 'how will Benson react to being benched?'

Will he try too hard when he gets in and draw early fouls and take bad shots?

Will he understand and take a step back and play to his strengths?

Will he pout and play softer than usual, letting ego get in the way of his job?

All Flyer Fans and coaches will be watching his every move, regardless of whether it's on the bench or on the court.

For all our sakes, I hope he has a career game.

(at least I didn't say 'if')
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SLU took advantage of Butler's 23 turnovers. They saw an opportunity and used it. I can never tell what Flyer team we are going to see and that is frustrating, but I just don't want to see us give SLU the game like Butler did.
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Dayton is now 8-1 when playing games on Saturdays. Looking fordward to seeing the Flyers come back with toughness.

The only good Flyer news I've heard recently is that JB won't be starting (Bucky and Larry just confirmed it). Hopefully this shows players that starting and playing time have to be earned.
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Looks like Khari is very doubtful for the game
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The big question is 'how will Benson react to being benched?'

Will he try too hard when he gets in and draw early fouls and take bad shots?

Will he understand and take a step back and play to his strengths?

Will he pout and play softer than usual, letting ego get in the way of his job?

All Flyer Fans and coaches will be watching his every move, regardless of whether it's on the bench or on the court.

For all our sakes, I hope he has a career game.

(at least I didn't say 'if')
Good points, but I just cannot see how he is surprised; in fact, the surprise would be if this did not happen.
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Robinson has done more in 4 minutes than Benson does in a half.
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The pick and roll is killing us. Good thing they have missed some lay-ups.
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Anyone just see Derenbecker take like 7 baby steps backward before taking and missing that 3...no dribbles and no call.

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We look terrible. Timid and slow.
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Robinson is so slow on defense he needs to stop hedging
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Benson over the back....no call.
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Benson over the back....no call.
If you are going to critique, call all the no calls, both ways.
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I believe we are at 9 turnovers already...on the path to 30 if we don't become more disciplined with the basketball.
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9 turnovers, shooting 37% and letting them shoot over 50% with a ton of layups. It is the some old song no matter who we put in to sing it.
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What kind of defense are we playing? I looks like 5 on 4 every other time down. We switch and rotate into total confusion.
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Oliver scores and takes elbow to the head no call...just for you rollo..
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They are calling nothing, which will not help us because after MD's play on Clarke we are pansies.
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Our defense is embarrassing so far. We are giving up lay-ups constantly.
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They are shooting 57% to our 36%. Of course they are shooting layups and many of our shots are street ball.
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Great block and tough physical play by Benson.
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I just can't watch the games live right now - I'm putting them on the DVR and will watch if we win (I'll probably even watch if we lose but play relatively dumb mistake free basketball)
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I can understand packing it in to make them beat you from outside. But giving them BOTH inside and outside? If I have to hear Larry say "wide open" once more I'm going to upchuck. Unacceptable! Hard to see how this season will produce a silver lining. anyone have ideas?
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There is the old JB...miss the wide open fast break layup!
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I kno we are down 16 and our D was brutal... but IMO we played much better in the last few minutes
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It appeared that Benson hesitated and thought about dunking and ended up with the Huelsman short arm.
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Well, I guess I'll watch the next x game, but other than that I think I'm done for the season. Pitchers and catchers report soon. Silver lining there.
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Wow is that Northwestern floor ugly or what? What are some of these schools thinking?
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The refs are trying to keep us in the game...we're just not cooperating with our play.
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It appeared that Benson hesitated and thought about dunking and ended up with the Huelsman short arm.
This team could use a Huelsman. I am dead serious. We get destroyed in the paint.
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Wow is that Northwestern floor ugly or what? What are some of these schools thinking?
Have you seen the Colorado floor? It is, for want of a better explanation, like a sunburst. It is really hard on the eyes.
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How appropriate on the first play Dillard completely loses his man and gives up a 3 point play and layup
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Well the 18 and 1 ladies play Richmond tomorrow morning on ESPNU at 11. Should be a better game to watch.
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Down to 15 and our ball and Oliver with a stupid play.
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What was Benson thinking on that pass. Oh never mind he wasn't.
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"You can tell, Dayton is just frustrated." From NBC Sports.

What about us fans. Simply speechless. Watched the x game, read every post on the thread and simply could not say anything good, so I said nothing.

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Why is Matt guarding a 6 foot speedster.... layup. Gavs with the lazy reach for a pass... "I used to be able to do that on the slow guys in France."
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What is this lineup? Are you kidding me?
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Utterly embarrassing. In a matter of two seasons, we've gone from being a very good defensive team to one who plays defense at a level of a high school team. And on top of that, our offense involves dribbling around and forcing a shot. Disgusting.
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It reminds me of a game I attended at UD Arena during the Jim O'Brien era. There were about 6,000 fans at the game watching University of Missouri at Kansas City dismantle the Flyers by over 20 points. Then-President Fitz was sitting in the lower arena, essentially by himself, with a complete look of disbelief. This feels eerily the same.
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Benson is our best outside shooter today
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Have you seen the Colorado floor? It is, for want of a better explanation, like a sunburst. It is really hard on the eyes.
Oregon's floor is wild. Very distracting and hard on the eyes IMO. I wouldn't want UD to get a court design like that.

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Hey this whipping is getting in the way of our discussion of ugly basketball courts. Can someone hide the whip?
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Well I cant take this anymore, I'm turning the channel and getting an adult beverage. I'm getting visions of Jim O'Brien every time I blink my eyes watching this circus.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:33 PM
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If our team plays like they don't care then why should we care? Fan apathy is a very dangerous thing Archie Miller, Tim Wabler, and Dan Curran.
I was thinking the same thing. Dr. Curran and Tim Wabler have a lot of things in place for a wonderful legacy. Unfortunately, a basketball program in tatters is something that would seriously harm both of their legacies.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:33 PM
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This is starting to look eerily like the early years of the JOB era.
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This team is in complete disarray. Do we have a coach?
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Time for walk-ons!

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We are seeing why Gavs does not play. No jump, no D, no catch the ball, no speed, no game.
...and he's French. That probably should have been the first clue.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:34 PM
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Well I cant take this anymore, I'm turning the channel and getting an adult beverage. I'm getting visions of Jim O'Brien every time I blink my eyes watching this circus.
Appropriately, the Antioch Shrine Circus is in town at the UD Arena this weekend.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:35 PM
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Where's Scott? Time to play for next season.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:37 PM
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Who should be nominated for the Golden Eunuch award today? Other than Dillard and Oliver, I'm not sure who to add...

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Old 02-02-2013, 03:37 PM
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Time for walk-ons!

From both teams.
I think from what I see they have been playing.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:38 PM
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This is pitiful and embarrasing to a D1 team and program. I would either take out all the starters and sit them down or I would make KD, VS, DO, JB stay out there for the entire slaughter and see if they get the message and are embarrased. The fifth player would be one of the walkons. He would at least care.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:39 PM
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I just turned off the video version of the game and turned on Larry and Bucky. Larry sounds like he is in a complete state of depression. There is no animation in Bucky's voice at all. No one anticipated this kind of breakdown in our team, I am sure.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:40 PM
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Unfortunately this is not about caring or effort. We have lost all our confidence and execution and that says the coaching staff has lost the team.
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It looks as bad in person as it does on TV. What a **** mess.
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This performance leads me to wonder if Archie has lost the team.
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For the first time this season, I believe the Flyers are in a zone.
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What channel are tje kardashians on.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:42 PM
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This performance leads me to wonder if Archie has lost the team.
I think that it is very, very clear...he has no control over this team.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:43 PM
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Bucky sounds like we sound - can't believe what has happened to his beloved Flyers.
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For 19 years I've always felt comfortable and assured that we had the right coach leading the UD men's basketball team. For the first time since early 1994 I am not so sure. That is downright scary.
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My senior year in high school UD won 4 games. My freshman and sophomore years at UD they won 13 games combined. Through all that, right now I feel more disappointed in this program than I did during those years.
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My senior year in high school UD won 4 games. My freshman and sophomore years at UD they won 13 games combined. Through all that, right now I feel more disappointed in this program than I did during those years.
It's a very sick feeling. I am always a person who looks down the road...and when I do, it gets very, very ugly for this program.
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we look for good players to turn this around, but that is not the answer. We have just as much talent as St. Louis, X, Butler, etc. We have a coaching staff that is scared to death, lacks confidence and players that do not believe in them.
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No way this team has as much talent as St. Louis or Butler.
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we look for good players to turn this around, but that is not the answer. We have just as much talent as St. Louis, X, Butler, etc. We have a coaching staff that is scared to death, lacks confidence and players that do not believe in them.
You just hit the nail on the head, Jack. I don't think Tim Wabler and Dan Curran would pull the plug on Archie this year, but I'll bet it is crossing both of their minds. They and we Flyer fans would be very, very disappointed if this type of play continued next year.
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Scott sighting
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St Louis holds us to 52 points and 42% shooting and only has 9 fouls for the game. That shows how passive and predictable we are on offense and how wimpy we have gotten rebounding the ball.
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