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The 6'2"-6'3" Philly Native put up big numbers at Roman Catholic... Transferred to IMG for Post Grad this season and is playing really well too. Kid has offers from every where: SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Big East, etc.

Quick reminder, his dad was a monster at Temple.

He's more of a combo guard than a point, so him and Mali should work great together.

LG3, Mali, DaRon, Kaleb & Mustapha all in one class is unreal.

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We lose a lot of perimeter shooting next year, and the little video that I have seen of him makes him look like a shooter/deep threat.

Hope that is true.

Assuming that we have no returning seniors next year, there will not be a senior on the team, and only two juniors, assuming Cohill is OK. We are going to be young, but I think we will be as talented as ever.

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WOW! Include Amzil and this is UD’s Fab five!
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:33 AM
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Sounds like Obi had something to do with it. The kid will keeping on giving to UD.

The kid has been an Honor Roll Student, so great physical skills and smart.

Now we need to round this out with a 6'10"+ big body to play center. A transfer will also do.
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Per stockrisers article ... THANKS OBI!!!

"You’re friends with former Dayton star Obi Toppin, what did he have to say about Grant?

“Obi [Toppin] is one of my good friends and he went there last year and had nothing but great things to say about Dayton and Coach Grant.”"
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Now we need to round this out with a 6'10"+ big body to play center. A transfer will also do.
Don’t we have one who is only a Redshirt Freshman?
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Kid seems to really have his act together. We will soon be a team of four stars!!!! (Mali should be one.)
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Good article,Q and A with Greer
The way he talks about coming in and working hard and being the best version of himself reminds me of the things I've read about Holmes. Sounds like a couple of guys who won't be going out there every night to get theirs but rather to get the team a win. The points and other stats will just come naturally as a by-product of the team-first mentality.
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This looks like a play Clutcher would make

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WOW! Include Amzil and this is UD’s Fab five!
I need to remember to temper my expectations for true freshmen, but the idea of the 5 of them on the court at once over the next few years - that is one heck of a lineup. No true center, but seems like five players who want it more than the guy lined up across from them.

It's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
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Big get obviously. I remember watching Lynn Greer play at Temple. Jablo's article details some of that history his father (Lynn Greer Jr) had playing at UD arena:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...A4N3AKLMDAEOI/

Question: Is Lynn any relation to UD assistant Ricardo Greer?

Ricardo starred at Pitt (1997-2001) while Lynn Greer Jr was dominating at Temple (1997-2002). And then they both had LONG careers in Europe that overlapped (both retiring from playing in 2015).
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There is a lot of Jalen in LG3. Outstanding vision, reactions, multiple ways to finish. Unselfish.

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Big get obviously. I remember watching Lynn Greer play at Temple. Jablo's article details some of that history his father (Lynn Greer Jr) had playing at UD arena:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...A4N3AKLMDAEOI/

Question: Is Lynn any relation to UD assistant Ricardo Greer?

Ricardo starred at Pitt (1997-2001) while Lynn Greer Jr was dominating at Temple (1997-2002). And then they both had LONG careers in Europe that overlapped (both retiring from playing in 2015).
UPDATE: Question answered. Jablo says no relation. They are friends though. I suspect Ricardo played a role in Lynn's recruitment.
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This kid already has a college-ready body or very very close to. Outside of the obvious very talented BIGS, many many times it's the only difference between the elite P5 teams talent over the mid/high-mid majors and others. Might take a UD kid 2 years to get the necessary weight/strength versus top teams who can get the ready-made body.
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Welcome Lynn! If you think playing in the Palestra in front of 10,000 people in high school at Roman Catholic was loud wait till you see how loud the UD Arena gets with 13,455 Flyer fanatics screaming!
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Holy cow!!! Where are all the minutes going to go? If we have no transfers out and no seniors from this year taking advantage of their free year(Chatman maybe), we have 5 guys vying for the C/F spots (Mo, Mustapha, Zimi, Washington and Holmes), 6 guys vying for the guard positions(Weaver, Cohill, Brea, Mali, Frazier and LGIII) and one tweener(Blakney. now I see where comparisons to Trey come from).

Yep, I guess that's a good problem to have, but that's a lot of players to keep happy.
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Let’s assume all stay (I imagine at least one transfers out but not sure who since multiple see hardly any minutes)...the guys coming in may keep a few people on the bench. Just because they’re on the team doesn’t mean they will play
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Holy cow!!! Where are all the minutes going to go? If we have no transfers out and no seniors from this year taking advantage of their free year(Chatman maybe), we have 5 guys vying for the C/F spots (Mo, Mustapha, Zimi, Washington and Holmes), 6 guys vying for the guard positions(Weaver, Cohill, Brea, Mali, Frazier and LGIII) and one tweener(Blakney. now I see where comparisons to Trey come from).

Yep, I guess that's a good problem to have, but that's a lot of players to keep happy.
That's always the downside of these discussions. At least 1 of Cohill, Brea, Frazier will have to distinguish himself, probably not more than 1. The other 2 will likely fade out. Not enough minutes for everyone.

It could be worse, there were so many years where we lamented that there was no one else was walking through those doors who could produce anything better. The Logan White / Marques Bennett / Mark Jones / Chris Spears years come to mind, they were OK bench & practice players but we needed to recruit over them to give Ramod and the rest of the team some help. Back then it was 4, maybe 5 decent players, and after that the plan was "hope".
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Let’s assume all stay (I imagine at least one transfers out but not sure who since multiple see hardly any minutes)...the guys coming in may keep a few people on the bench. Just because they’re on the team doesn’t mean they will play
Yeah, usually it makes sense for some to mainly sit. Usually freshman that are a work in process. But we have two 4 stars coming in and if they're what we would expect, they will naturally require lots of minutes, compared to most freshman we've recruited. Mustapha and Weaver are starters at the present time and it would be hard to sit them on the bench. Dwayne will be entering the season he would expect his minutes to rise. Zimi and RJ also. Mo's bulk is either useful or it isn't and if it is, MINUTES, if not, then his redshirting will be looked at as a waste. Brea and Frazier? We would expect big steps forward from those two, but without minutes, they wouldn't be able to take those steps. That leaves Mali and LGIII as kind of your normal freshman but Mali especially will command some minutes to grow into being the PG of the future like his brother did his first season.

Not saying it can't or won't be done appropriately, but having two 4-star recruits entering the program is really going to make it more difficult and very different as far as keeping the players happy and with defined rolls.
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Cohill doesn't have anything to worry about as long as he's healthy. Once he and Grant got on the same page, Grant showed bountiful trust in him especially in the last 5 minutes of games. This team needs an upgrade on the perimeter D anyway and Rod won't be around. As far as I'm concerned he can't get back on the court fast enough. He's not a magic bullet fix for everything but DC knows his job and doesn't stray from it too often. Grant likes that.
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Cohill doesn't have anything to worry about as long as he's healthy. Once he and Grant got on the same page, Grant showed bountiful trust in him especially in the last 5 minutes of games. This team needs an upgrade on the perimeter D anyway and Rod won't be around. As far as I'm concerned he can't get back on the court fast enough. He's not a magic bullet fix for everything but DC knows his job and doesn't stray from it too often. Grant likes that.

True but only to the degree the rehab goes well, and he trusts the knee to take the beating. That's my concern.
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Cohill: A couple of days ago, he posted a video on his Instagram story. It was entitled "Return of the Demon". Looked professionally done although some of these young people are very adept with technology. I took it as a sign his rehab must be going well.
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Interesting that Jabbo's article in the DDN indicates Weaver will be the only senior next year. If I'm not mistaken, next year will be his fourth year in college but he has only played two years that count. Won't that make him a only a junior eligibility-wise next year given that this year is a "free" year?
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Interesting that Jabbo's article in the DDN indicates Weaver will be the only senior next year. If I'm not mistaken, next year will be his fourth year in college but he has only played two years that count. Won't that make him a only a junior eligibility-wise next year given that this year is a "free" year?
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Holy cow!!! Where are all the minutes going to go? If we have no transfers out and no seniors from this year taking advantage of their free year(Chatman maybe), we have 5 guys vying for the C/F spots (Mo, Mustapha, Zimi, Washington and Holmes), 6 guys vying for the guard positions(Weaver, Cohill, Brea, Mali, Frazier and LGIII) and one tweener(Blakney. now I see where comparisons to Trey come from).

Yep, I guess that's a good problem to have, but that's a lot of players to keep happy.
Calipari, Self, Coach K, Izzo, etc. face that problem every year. It's a nice problem to have. We still really could use a back-to-the-basket playing big man. Holmes's body is not going to fill that need.
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Interesting that Jabbo's article in the DDN indicates Weaver will be the only senior next year. If I'm not mistaken, next year will be his fourth year in college but he has only played two years that count. Won't that make him a only a junior eligibility-wise next year given that this year is a "free" year?
Well, if he were to list him any other way, then he would have to list Zimi, Mustapha, Brea, Mo, RJ and Frazier as Freshman next year for the same reason.
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Holy cow!!! Where are all the minutes going to go? If we have no transfers out and no seniors from this year taking advantage of their free year(Chatman maybe), we have 5 guys vying for the C/F spots (Mo, Mustapha, Zimi, Washington and Holmes), 6 guys vying for the guard positions(Weaver, Cohill, Brea, Mali, Frazier and LGIII) and one tweener(Blakney. now I see where comparisons to Trey come from).

Yep, I guess that's a good problem to have, but that's a lot of players to keep happy.
I thought I wouldn't live long enough to worry about too much talent to choose from.

Reminds me of the owner of a small business who won the National Award for operating a Small Business. His response was, " I lay awake worrying that I will win this every year!"

UD needs to mold this talent into something better than 20-10.
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Next year is so hard to predict.
Step 1 is personnel. Do any of the 4 seniors return? Do any existing players transfer out? Do they fill the 13th and final scholarship?
Step 2 is predicting freshman impact. Yes, they are more talented than usual. But freshmen rarely step in and dominate. Amzil's 10-and-5 per game basically equals the most productive year any Flyer has had in his first year in the program in 20 years (since Waleskowski's 11-and-8 in 2000-01).
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I've been hearing that there won't be enough minutes for our very deep team for the last two years too, so forgive me if I put myself squarely in the I'll believe it when I see it camp.
Yep it always works itself out. Always got one or two guys injured and another couple guys that just can't seem rise up to the challenge. I would bet at least one of the seniors will come back next year. Probably a couple very good reasons one being they could get better and two would be wanting to play in front of 13,500 fans or close to that again. This year just seems like it's an intramural game.
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Yep it always works itself out. Always got one or two guys injured and another couple guys that just can't seem rise up to the challenge. I would bet at least one of the seniors will come back next year. Probably a couple very good reasons one being they could get better and two would be wanting to play in front of 13,500 fans or close to that again. This year just seems like it's an intramural game.
What makes you think that there's going to be 13,000+ allowed in UD Arena next season? I'd be willing to bet not.
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What makes you think that there's going to be 13,000+ allowed in UD Arena next season? I'd be willing to bet not.
I tend to agree with you - masks, immunization validation, and a few thousand people. In many respects, these steps are really putting a permanent dent in college basketball.
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What makes you think that there's going to be 13,000+ allowed in UD Arena next season? I'd be willing to bet not.
Well, I'm sure you're correct here but, imo, closer to half.
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I recall when Creen at Georgia had that kind of anointment for their top 5 recruiting class, headed by Anthony Edwards. They ended up 16-16 with Dayton shattering their early season expectations. Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a great recruiting class than not.
But one Obi Toppin would have us 17-2 right now.
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I recall when Creen at Georgia had that kind of anointment for their top 5 recruiting class, headed by Anthony Edwards. They ended up 16-16 with Dayton shattering their early season expectations. Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a great recruiting class than not.
But one Obi Toppin would have us 17-2 right now.
on a video chat, Lynn Greer III said he was
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wearing his Dayton warmups to practicve...

It was a major decision in Greer's choosing
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How many on this board watched his dad play against UD?

I remember watching him play at UD Arena.

My thought process in those games was something like this.
- Temple brings the ball across court.
- Greer has the ball and scores. UD no answer.
- Temple brings the ball across midcourt.
- Greer scores again, easily. Here we go again.
- Temple brings the ball across mid court
- Repeat. ARRRRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

I felt about Greer like the way St. Louis fans felt about Crutcher, only magnified...

I hope the family genes makes opponents fans suffer like that.
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He really does and explosive
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Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan View Post
How many on this board watched his dad play against UD?

I remember watching him play at UD Arena.

My thought process in those games was something like this.
- Temple brings the ball across court.
- Greer has the ball and scores. UD no answer.
- Temple brings the ball across midcourt.
- Greer scores again, easily. Here we go again.
- Temple brings the ball across mid court
- Repeat. ARRRRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

I felt about Greer like the way St. Louis fans felt about Crutcher, only magnified...

I hope the family genes makes opponents fans suffer like that.
I remember!

yes yes, his dad FEASTED on us,
tore us apart.... excited to see
his son and all the new talent,
watching how they gel and get
better will be fun...)
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Originally Posted by steverino015 View Post
I remember!

yes yes, his dad FEASTED on us,
tore us apart.... excited to see
his son and all the new talent,
watching how they gel and get
better will be fun...)
In order to fully embrace this new youth movement we need to hope and pray that the attendance waiver is lifted and we can get 13,409 fans into the Arena again! A full house would provide the motivation for the whole team that has been missing since the 2019-20 season!
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He was a stud.

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan View Post
How many on this board watched his dad play against UD?

I remember watching him play at UD Arena.

My thought process in those games was something like this.
- Temple brings the ball across court.
- Greer has the ball and scores. UD no answer.
- Temple brings the ball across midcourt.
- Greer scores again, easily. Here we go again.
- Temple brings the ball across mid court
- Repeat. ARRRRRRGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

I felt about Greer like the way St. Louis fans felt about Crutcher, only magnified...

I hope the family genes makes opponents fans suffer like that.
FWIW, in 2001-02, Greer's senior year at Temple, he scored 24 pts at UD and 22 pts at Temple (both were Temple wins) vs My Team...and played all 40 min in both games.
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If Lynn scores half as many points at Dayton as his father did at Temple, he will still be #46 all time on Daytons list. Decent career, but I hope for much higher and think it is quite possible.

*This stat not by FigStats so perfection not guaranteed, but I am close.
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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
FWIW, in 2001-02, Greer's senior year at Temple, he scored 24 pts at UD and 22 pts at Temple (both were Temple wins) vs My Team...and played all 40 min in both games.
there is more, this is not
the whole story:

"Temple senior guard Lynn Greer scored
a game high 31 points, including four free-throws
in the last 28 seconds of overtime,
in Temple’s 75-70 win over Dayton at
a nearly sold out UD Arena."

don't see the date, here is a link:
https://temple-news.com/temple-men-b...n-in-overtime/
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Originally Posted by steverino015 View Post
there is more, this is not
the whole story:

"Temple senior guard Lynn Greer scored
a game high 31 points, including four free-throws
in the last 28 seconds of overtime,
in Temple’s 75-70 win over Dayton at
a nearly sold out UD Arena."

don't see the date, here is a link:
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That was his junior year...and he played all 45 min that game.

FWIW, he averaged 39.6 min/game as a junior and 39.7 as a senior.
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That was his junior year...and he played all 45 min that game.

FWIW, he averaged 39.6 min/game as a junior and 39.7 as a senior.
But I thought playing that many minutes wears you down???
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I dreaded the games against his father's Temple teams. Him and Pepe Sanchez.

The family has a chance to make things right with us Flyer fans. Let's go LG3!
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But I thought playing that many minutes wears you down???
You can get away with playing long minutes, but in the long season you wear down especially if your opponents use their depth and physical play against you.

Jalen and Ibi had some games in which they looked worn down
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unless your name is Lynn Greer...
he averaged over 39 minutes a game
his junior AND senior years at Temple...
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