Lowery quote

[lhsgolf19]

regarding his hair

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con...pmediaday.html

The Flyers will have two floppy-haired point guards in Lowery and Warren. Who wins the award for the best dreadlocks? "He does — just because his are longer," Lowery said. "But I keep mine fresher and cleaner."

[TerryK_67]

Why is it that the DDN cannot seem to mention UD without also mentioning Wrong State? Recent articles come right out and say that they are trying for equal time for both. Well, I don’t give a rat’s behind about what goes on out in Fairborn. They can write all they want about them - but please - in separate articles! Just stop mixing it all in the same one! That is like kids getting equal playing time in tee ball.
I use to read the DDN “on line” all the time. But I quit because of this silly attempt to raise WSU to a higher level than they deserve. Pretty annoying if you ask me!

Word I heard is that Lowery is every bit as quick as London! Both of them in the game at the same time will make the other three look slow!
GO FLYERS!

[UDBrian]

Agree 100% I guess they don't want to insult the Fairborn readers by saying that there is actually one team within the city of Dayton.

[Gazoo]

"tee ball" is a great example since this is minor league all the way, DDN.

Write all you want about WSU but c'mon have some professionalism. The rule regarding equal treatment of all issues in the media hasn't passed yet.

[smitch425]

Originally Posted by Gazoo The rule regarding equal treatment of all issues in the media hasn't passed yet.

I'd be thrilled to see the Flyer football team get 1/2 the front page instead of a whole page of all that OSU garbage.

[DetroitFlyer]

Originally Posted by smitch425 I'd be thrilled to see the Flyer football team get 1/2 the front page instead of a whole page of all that OSU garbage.

Boy, you could not have said it better smitch! UD Football should garner the #1 spot in DAYTON, OHIO! I understand why tOSU is extensively covered in Dayton and all over Ohio, but for the hometown paper to not make the only Division I football team in town the #1 star is pretty sad IMHO!!!!!

[Medford]

Originally Posted by DetroitFlyer Boy, you could not have said it better smitch! UD Football should garner the #1 spot in DAYTON, OHIO! I understand why tOSU is extensively covered in Dayton and all over Ohio, but for the hometown paper to not make the only Division I football team in town the #1 star is pretty sad IMHO!!!!!

Actually its pretty simple, a far larger % of the Dayton area prefer reading about OSU football over UD football, which is why OSU football garners more coverage (even if it's mostly AP reports and stuff from the columbus dispatch now a days)

Similarly, a larger % of people in the Dayton area prefer reading about UD basketball over WSU basketball, which is why UD has always garnered more headlines in the DDN than WSU.

A newspaper is a business, not a socialist, communal or governmental properity. It writes stories that reflect is readerships interests with the idea that will sell more papers and generate larger ad revenues.

[NCkevi]

Stations try to balance UD, WSU coverage

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con...8spinside.html

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Medford Actually its pretty simple, a far larger % of the Dayton area prefer reading about OSU football over UD football, which is why OSU football garners more coverage (even if it's mostly AP reports and stuff from the columbus dispatch now a days) Similarly, a larger % of people in the Dayton area prefer reading about UD basketball over WSU basketball, which is why UD has always garnered more headlines in the DDN than WSU. A newspaper is a business, not a socialist, communal or governmental properity. It writes stories that reflect is readerships interests with the idea that will sell more papers and generate larger ad revenues.

Medford, we know. We're scoffing at the hypocracy. DDN seems intent on forcing WSU down people's throats because some of the writers went to WSU (at least that's my understanding). So since we agree that there's significantly more interest in UD, we all just wonder why they would have an official position as desiring some kind of parity.

Quote:
At WKEF (Ch. 22)/WRGT (Ch. 45), Nathan Baker says he hears it a little differently: "If you don't cover UD thoroughly, you get e-mails and phone calls. That doesn't happen with Wright State."

It doesn't happen because WSU doesn't have anywhere near the following. I'm not offended that UD football isn't the front page story because I understand it should be about what the readers want to hear about. If someday the readers want to hear more about WSU than UD then that's what happens.

But by the DDN's own admission, not many people care about WSU.

[Medford]

I see you're point gazoo, but I read detroit flyer's take as if he was serious. I know he's a big supporter of UD football.

Whether he said that in all seriousness or in jest, there have been others on here that do state they think UD football should be covered before OSU football. To me, they sound exactly like the WSU people that whine that the DDN doesn't give them equal time. Thankfully there are far less of the UD breed vs the constant whining you see from some of the WSU supporters.

[smitch425]

It is the way UD is treated. We literally had one small sentence in the top of the front page in this week's sunday paper and OSU basically had the rest. A color photo on the front page of our own town's paper isn't too much to ask IMHO. Let's not forget who won their national championship last year. Here's a hint...it wasn't OSU. Most people in Dayton probably don't even know about that because the DDN barely covered it. To their credit, they did a nice job with the Dayton Classic coverage against Central State, but only because the game was on sunday so the coverage in the paper was on monday. It will probably never change, but the players at UD deserve better.

[sheg]

Originally Posted by Medford A newspaper is a business, not a socialist, communal or governmental properity.

The lines have been blurred...

[UDBrian]

i really believe that most football fans in the area would become UD football fans if you could get them to their first game. Part of the problem is that a lot of people don't want to leave the couch, going to a game is more work than stretching out in your recliner with a remote.

[smitch425]

I wasn't going to continue this discussion here due to the thread title, but since it's been obvious from the get go that this thread took a different turn, I'll carry on...

Did anyone notice that once again the football Flyers got only one sentence on the front page this week? The 600th win for the program and not a single front page story. That is an atrocity and I challenge anyone on this board to come up with a valid reason for this game not having a front page article. I was hoping for a page 1 Chamberlin/Kelly color photo, but once again--nothing.

[The Chef]

The article doesn't stake out a formal position on behalf of the newspaper. The article was about coverage by local television news outlets. The only mention to the DDN was a comment about how much mail/e-mail they receive from their readers on the subject.

Let's review the stations' positions:

WHIO-TV: Flagship TV station for the Flyers, but makig active effort to bring some balance; making sure to cover both teams.

WDTN: Better team will get more coverage.

WKEF/WRGT: We listen to our viewers. We hear that viewers want more Flyers coverage, so that's what we give them.

[Medford]

Originally Posted by sheg The lines have been blurred...

Well that is something I think we can all agree on

[Medford]

Smitch,

I don't get the print edition of the paper, just read it online. But let me guess, OSU had a huge win in a road game vs a ranked opponent when many OSU fans probably feared they could get beat by a double digit margin given the effectiveness (or lack there of) of their offense prior to that game. Both Bengals & the Browns were playing on Sunday. The BoSox had a huge, semi-historic come from behind victory to extend the ALSC to game 7. Arch probably had some human interest story (does he write any of these for the Sunday edition, I would think so, but don't pay close enough attention), then probably a couple of other items of interest.

Yes its a shame that UD's 600th win didn't get more attention. However it was a win that was expected, and both the OSU win and the professional football stories draw more interest from the local readership than the recap of UDs football win. Don't know about the baseball, but I'm guessing that was moved to the front due to the nature of the win. Finally, I'm guessing there is a spot on the front page for whoever is the sunday columnist. Heck, its probably even in their contract to ensure they get front page coverage no matter if the story is exceptionally interesting, or not.

I agree w/ UDBrian that if UD could get more fans in the area into 1 game, they'd likely come back for more. UD generally wins, does it with class, and has students playing for them that you can be "proud" to support. However, I've never felt like UD really pushes their games to the local crown. When I was on campus from '95 to '00 there was never much promtion on campus for the football games (or really any sporting events.) Has it picked up at all on campus?

Can students tailgate again? They could my freshman year, but i think it was banned after that. Other than Kramer's tailgate, I don't think there is much tailgating that goes on. It would help if UD would promote the games more on local media with ad time, open up more tailgating and find ways to draw the general public into the game as well as a larger % of the student body. How many people in the local area even know when UD plays each week, and if they're at home or on the road? I've never felt like the university has promoted football w/ the level it deserves; why should the local paper promote if UD football if the University doesn't make the effort?

[smitch425]

2/3 OSU, bottom 1/3 split between baseball and Bombers hockey, left 3 inches of whole page split between a preseason WSU hoops article and an article about Ben Roethlisberger and whether or not he'd keep his record perfect against the Bengals.

Sorry, but I still don't see why we can't get a little hometown love for the team. If we could get a couple front page color stories two weeks in a row maybe we would draw some more interest. Who knows??

As far as tailgaiting goes...I am not sure about the student ban thing, but there is plenty of tailgaiting going on. The U has a tailgating function as does the Flyers Club. There are several individuals that also set up shop on saturday mornings.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Medford Actually its pretty simple, a far larger % of the Dayton area prefer reading about OSU football over UD football, which is why OSU football garners more coverage (even if it's mostly AP reports and stuff from the columbus dispatch now a days) Similarly, a larger % of people in the Dayton area prefer reading about UD basketball over WSU basketball, which is why UD has always garnered more headlines in the DDN than WSU. A newspaper is a business, not a socialist, communal or governmental properity. It writes stories that reflect is readerships interests with the idea that will sell more papers and generate larger ad revenues.

I think that says it all. Newspapers cover what they think people want to read about, which results in better sales. I see no problem with that.

[smitch425]

I am in the minority on this issue. If I didn't like to shop I'd just cancel my subscription, but hey...I am a girl afterall. Gotta have those ads

[longtimefan]

If UD really wanted to promote their football team, wouldn't there be some way to get a game or two on some local cable channel?