2022-23 Non Conference schedule

[OSU Flyer]

Great schedule and great work by the AD to get it together

Should be nice having a couple quality opponents before Atlantis

[OSU Flyer]

SMU had to rebuild on the fly with their new coach

Nice break down of SMU's roster from On3
https://www.on3.com/teams/smu-mustan...y-commits-smu/

SMU brought in 7 transfers including a couple guys that UD recruited. Xavier Foster from Iowa State and Keon Ambrose-Hylton from Alabama

Former Centerville big man and one time UD recruit Mo Njie is there

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[lhsgolf19]

So as of now

Home Opener (probably 11/8)... ?????
11/11... SMU
11/15... at UNLV
11/19... Robert Morris
11/23-25... B4A
11/30... Western Michigan
12/17... Wyoming (in Chicago)
TBD... at Virginia Tech
TBD... ?????
TBD... ?????
TBD... ?????

[OSU Flyer]

With buy games filing out the schedule. What's the goal for OOC? 11-2?

[podcast411]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer With buy games filing out the schedule. What's the goal for OOC? 11-2?

The same goal it is every year - 13-0

Per what is realistic - Well - 13-0

What is expected - ah - that is different - and yes 11-2 would be a good expectation.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by podcast411 The same goal it is every year - 13-0 Per what is realistic - Well - 13-0 What is expected - ah - that is different - and yes 11-2 would be a good expectation.

Our goal should always be double-digit wins in the non-con. Anything else makes an at-large exceedingly unlikely.

[Flyerferd]

One correction, I believe opening night is actually Monday, November 7. I don’t believe they will have any games anywhere on Tuesday the eighth because of election day. The college tipoff doubleheader isn’t even happening that night on ESPN like it normally would.
Posted via Mobile Device

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd One correction, I believe opening night is actually Monday, November 7. I don’t believe they will have any games anywhere on Tuesday the eighth because of election day. The college tipoff doubleheader isn’t even happening that night on ESPN like it normally would. Posted via Mobile Device

Yeah, the 7th is opening night. The NCAA made a big deal about giving student-athletes election day off

[Flyer 86]

SMU Baby. H/h

[ud2]

Originally Posted by UD62 I wonder if we will continue the 15 away/ neutral plan next year after we conclude the h/h with VT. We have three H/H situations this year, one at home and two away. If we continue with three a 15 setup is a posibility.

Maybe IMO. Looking at the last several years of schedules, it appears that the goal is to get 7 good ooc games. We only had 6 last year, 1 at home and 5 away/neutral. We can almost always count on 3 exempt tourney games towards that goal.

So they are then trying to get 4 more whether it be a neutral site game or a home and home series. We have almost always gotten some combo of h/h's and neutrals, usually 2 at home iinm, along with iinm 2 aways/neutrals to get those other 4. This year there are 3 away/neutral and 1 home.

But getting the 4 h/h 's and neutrals to all line up exactly how we want them is getting increasingly difficult. So I am glad that UD is demonstrating increased flexibility with their total number of home games in their pursuit of the 4. IMO, it would be great if we could get to 8 in total, as that is what some of our peer competitors have been doing both presently and in the past.

I think we are done at this point in terms of getting any more good ooc games, lhsgolf posted upthread that 2 more h/h's would be announced, and they have in fact been announced, UNLV and SMU.

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=69

But one more h/h game starting at UD would be great IMO, but it isn't going to happen IMO.

[Flyer Al]

Rothstein is reporting that the Virginia Tech game will be December 7th in Blacksburg.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/sta...VaP6G_XmJoQYZQ

[lhsgolf19]

Battle 4 Atlantis bracket coming out Thursday
Posted via Mobile Device

[podcast411]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Battle 4 Atlantis bracket coming out Thursday Posted via Mobile Device

Heard from one of my Tennessee friends we are going to be a 3 seed - with Tennessee a 2 seed. KU obviously the 1 seed. We would need to beat the 6 seed first - then TN - to Face KU.

That said - I think we should be the 2 seed. But either way does not matter much - TN and UD are clearly a step above the rest. We just need to win win win.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by podcast411 Heard from one of my Tennessee friends we are going to be a 3 seed - with Tennessee a 2 seed. KU obviously the 1 seed. We would need to beat the 6 seed first - then TN - to Face KU. That said - I think we should be the 2 seed. But either way does not matter much - TN and UD are clearly a step above the rest. We just need to win win win.

This makes sense. I'm guessing we are paired with BYU or NC St.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Battle 4 Atlantis bracket coming out Thursday Posted via Mobile Device

Have not seen anything released. What was this post based on?

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Have not seen anything released. What was this post based on?

From Tuesday:

Robby McCombs
@rtmccombs
·
Jul 26
ESPN will release the Battle 4 Atlantis bracket on Thursday. BYU is in the 8-team field with Kansas, Tennessee, Wisconsin, USC, NC State, Dayton, and Butler.

[Medford]

Does ESPN still reveal the brackets for all their key events on the same day? I believe they've done that in the past.

[Flyer Al]

UD plays Wisconsin in Game 2 on November 23rd.


https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status...C8Nt3S2TqpkzqA

[lhsgolf19]

We will play Either KU or NC State

Rubber Match coming?
Posted via Mobile Device

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo @UNLV (11/15) Robert Morris (11/19) Wisconsin (N, Bahamas, 11/23-25) Kansas/N.C. State (N, Bahamas) Butler/BYU/So. Cal/Tenn. (N, Bahamas) Western Michigan (11/30) @Virginia Tech (early-mid Dec.) Wyoming (N, Chicago, 12/17) 5 games left to announce.

Update.

[Rick Scaia]

Where are folks getting UK/NCSt in the 2nd game? Unless Atlantis is a magical wonderland where the top of brackets face each other and the bottom brackets face each other (instead of a normal place, where left side plays left side and right side plays right side), shouldn't we be lined up to face TN/Butler?

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by Rick Scaia Where are folks getting UK/NCSt in the 2nd game? Unless Atlantis is a magical wonderland where the top of brackets face each other and the bottom brackets face each other (instead of a normal place, where left side plays left side and right side plays right side), shouldn't we be lined up to face TN/Butler?

In every previous B4A Tourney, Game 1 winner plays Game 2 winner

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 In every previous B4A Tourney, Game 1 winner plays Game 2 winner

It appears we are in the 4/5 seed line. Seems a little low to me…I guess we’ll just have to beat Kansas AGAIN to get to finals.

[DGO67]

Originally Posted by springborofan It appears we are in the 4/5 seed line. Seems a little low to me…I guess we’ll just have to beat Kansas AGAIN to get to finals.

We could beat Kansas and not play for the championship.

[lhsgolf19]

UD hosting UNC Asheville on December 10th

Should be one of the contenders in the Big South, not bad for a “buy”

[DGO67]

Originally Posted by DGO67 We could beat Kansas and not play for the championship.

correction: We are not in the same half of the bracket with Kansas. So
we'll play Kansas for the championship if we both advance to the final.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by DGO67 correction: We are not in the same half of the bracket with Kansas. So we'll play Kansas for the championship if we both advance to the final.

Might want to correct that again


2022 Battle4Atlantis (all times Central)
Wednesday, Nov. 23
Game 1 – KANSAS vs. N.C. State, 11 a.m. (ESPN)
Game 2 – Dayton vs. Wisconsin, 1:30 p.m. (ESPN or ESPN2)
Game 3 – USC vs. BYU, 4 p.m. (ESPN2)
Game 4 – Tennessee vs. Butler, 6:30 p.m. (ESPN2)

Thursday, Nov. 24
Game 5 – G1 Winner vs. G2 Winner, 10 a.m. (ESPN)
Game 6 – G3 Winner vs. G4 Winner, 12:30 p.m. (ESPN2)
Game 7 – G1 Loser vs. G2 Loser, 3 p.m. (ESPNEWS)
Game 8 – G3 Loser vs. G4 Loser, 5:30 p.m. (ESPNU)

Friday, Nov. 25
Championship – G5 winner vs. G6 Winner, Noon (ESPN2)
Third Place – G5 Loser vs. G6 Loser, 2:30 p.m. (ESPN2)
Fifth Place – G7 Winner vs. G8 Winner, 6 p.m. (ESPNEWS)
Seventh Place – G7 Loser vs. G8 Loser, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN3)

[hawkoooo]

SMU (11/11)
@UNLV (11/15)
Robert Morris (11/19)
Wisconsin (N, Bahamas, 11/23-25)
Kansas/N.C. State (N, Bahamas)
Butler/BYU/So. Cal/Tenn. (N, Bahamas)
Western Michigan (11/30)
@Virginia Tech (12/7)
UNC Asheville (12/10)
Wyoming (N, Chicago, 12/17)

3 games left to schedule and/or announce.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo @UNLV (11/15) Robert Morris (11/19) Wisconsin (N, Bahamas, 11/23-25) Kansas/N.C. State (N, Bahamas) Butler/BYU/So. Cal/Tenn. (N, Bahamas) Western Michigan (11/30) @Virginia Tech (12/7) UNC Asheville (12/10) Wyoming (N, Chicago, 12/17) 4 games left to schedule and/or announce.

You are missing the game against SMU on Nov 11.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan Might want to correct that again 2022 Battle4Atlantis (all times Central) Wednesday, Nov. 23 Game 1 – KANSAS vs. N.C. State, 11 a.m. (ESPN) Game 2 – Dayton vs. Wisconsin, 1:30 p.m. (ESPN or ESPN2) Game 3 – USC vs. BYU, 4 p.m. (ESPN2) Game 4 – Tennessee vs. Butler, 6:30 p.m. (ESPN2) Thursday, Nov. 24 Game 5 – G1 Winner vs. G2 Winner, 10 a.m. (ESPN) Game 6 – G3 Winner vs. G4 Winner, 12:30 p.m. (ESPN2) Game 7 – G1 Loser vs. G2 Loser, 3 p.m. (ESPNEWS) Game 8 – G3 Loser vs. G4 Loser, 5:30 p.m. (ESPNU) Friday, Nov. 25 Championship – G5 winner vs. G6 Winner, Noon (ESPN2) Third Place – G5 Loser vs. G6 Loser, 2:30 p.m. (ESPN2) Fifth Place – G7 Winner vs. G8 Winner, 6 p.m. (ESPNEWS) Seventh Place – G7 Loser vs. G8 Loser, 8:30 p.m. (ESPN3)

Assuming Kansas is the #1 Seed, am I to assume then that we are no higher than a #4 Seed? Seems a bit disrespectful, given the national buzz around the program, with several mentions of preseason Top 25.
Posted via Mobile Device

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Assuming Kansas is the #1 Seed, am I to assume then that we are no higher than a #4 Seed? Seems a bit disrespectful, given the national buzz around the program, with several mentions of preseason Top 25. Posted via Mobile Device

Tennessee is a Top10-12 team on pretty much every early poll. We are 20-25, and USC is typically listed on the just outside the top 25 lists. Not really a big deal. We would have to play Kansas to win it all anyway.

[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Assuming Kansas is the #1 Seed, am I to assume then that we are no higher than a #4 Seed? Seems a bit disrespectful, given the national buzz around the program, with several mentions of preseason Top 25. Posted via Mobile Device

Do they even really "seed" these tournaments?

[Medford]

I imagine part of it is based upon TV. Placing BYU or USC too early wouldn't be the best plan, I'm sure the idea was to have them both in the later bracket to help generate more eyeballs on the west coast and mountains. Not sure how many USC fans would tune in, but I'd guess more @ lunchtime (west coast) than breakfast time.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by flyerfanatic86 Do they even really "seed" these tournaments?

They are loosely seeded I believe. Loose to the point that complaining about our "seed" is quite silly.

[OSU Flyer]

To walk out of the Bahamas with wins over Wisconsin, Kansas and Tennessee would be titanic

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo They are loosely seeded I believe. Loose to the point that complaining about our "seed" is quite silly.

agreed, but I actually think you want a bad "seed" in these tourneys. The more good games the better in an exempt tourney. I'd much rather play Wisconsin than likely ACC bottom feeder NC State

[lhsgolf19]

Full Non-Con Released

https://daytonflyers.com/news/2022/8...led-story.aspx

Open Season on Monday the 7th vs. brand new D-I program Lindenwood, they will be an OVC team.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Full Non-Con Released https://daytonflyers.com/news/2022/8...led-story.aspx Open Season on Monday the 7th vs. brand new D-I program Lindenwood, they will be an OVC team.

I was concerned we had to fill a spot with a DII school.

[OSU Flyer]

13-0
Posted via Mobile Device

[Flyerferd]

Can we just all take a moment and appreciate that Neil Sullivan is a treasure and we are all **** lucky to have him as our athletic director? There is never a question, given all the challenges a school like hours could have at scheduling games, he gives us quality nonconference opportunities. Now it’s up to Anthony and the boys to execute.
Posted via Mobile Device