Dayton's Official Roster released today

[lhsgolf19]

http://daytonflyers.cstv.com/sports/...askbl-mtt.html

Mickey Perry #0
London Warren #1
Rob Lowery #3
Chris Johnson #4
Stephen Thomas #11
Charles Little #15
Paul Williams #22
Luke Fabrizius #23
Marcus Johnson #32
Chris Wright #33
Devin Searcy #34
Kurt Huelsman #41
Josh Benson #44

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	London Warren LONDON WARREN 6-0 185lb Junior Raines, HS | Jacksonville FL Nicknamed the "Jacksonville Jet", London Warren is perhaps UD's quickest player baseline to baseline. Leader in steals defensively, he likes to push tempo on offense. Working on his shot and confidence at the charity stripe. 2007-08 | 4.3ppg 2.9rpg 2006-07 | 2.4ppg 1.7rpg

[Gazoo]

MP is 6-2 197?! Yikes, someone bar the door to Chipotle. Benson and Fabrizius are 6-9 and only 205.

[udstevied_D87]

Originally Posted by Gazoo MP is 6-2 197?! Yikes, someone bar the door to Chipotle. Benson and Fabrizius are 6-9 and only 205.

haha thats funny, i see mickey there allll the time. Hopefully hell take fabrizius there cuz hes wayy to lanky

[udstevied_D87]

what do you think the starting line up will be? I like:

Huelsman
Little
CW
mj
London

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by udstevied_D87 what do you think the starting line up will be? I like: Huelsman Little CW mj London

Barring something crazy...that IS what it will be

[udstevied_D87]

its weird typing that and not seeing the name Brian Roberts

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by udstevied_D87 its weird typing that and not seeing the name Brian Roberts

yea i know

[udstevied_D87]

itll also be interesting how BG will use all his guards on the bench. He subs very frequently, so we will see prolly within the first 6 or 7 games who'll be brining up the ball

[NorthwestFlyer]

MP was listed at 193 last year and he never looked heavy to me and got around well by the end of the year. If he added a few pounds of muscle, this is a good thing.

The impressive gain goes to Searcy, he stacked on about 20lbs. He will need that if he is going to bang around on the inside.

Williams looks like he is coming in with the frame that he needs to get some playing time this year. Benson and Fab will probably average less playing time against "bigger" opponents.

[NorthwestFlyer]

07-08 08-09 +/-
Mickey Perry 193 197 4
Stephen Thomas 164 170 6
London Warren 180 185 5
Charles Little 237 247 10
Chris Wright 214 226 12
Marcus Johnson 193 196 3
Devin Searcy 208 226 18
Kurt Huelsman 240 245 5
Rob Lowery 165
Chris Johnson 176
Paul Williams 213
Luke Fabrizius 205
Josh Benson 205


Here is the change from year to year. Everyone on the team added at least a few pounds over last year. Take it for what it is, I remember some discussion about Kurt being heavier than what was stated on the roster. I don't know if Little needed to add weight, but it won't hurt if he keeps that vertical of his.

Looks like the formatting skewed on the table.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	London Warren LONDON WARREN 6-0 185lb Junior Raines, HS | Jacksonville FL Nicknamed the "Jacksonville Jet", London Warren is perhaps UD's quickest player baseline to baseline. Leader in steals defensively, he likes to push tempo on offense. Working on his shot and confidence at the charity stripe. 2007-08 | 4.3ppg 2.9rpg 2006-07 | 2.4ppg 1.7rpg

[Gazoo]

MP never looked that big. Weird.

Looks like Charles is auditioning for his next career: tight end. I find it really hard to believe that no one would give him a roster spot in the NFL with that kind of frame and athleticism.

[Medford]

Originally Posted by Gazoo MP never looked that big. Weird. Looks like Charles is auditioning for his next career: tight end. I find it really hard to believe that no one would give him a roster spot in the NFL with that kind of frame and athleticism.

roster spots in the NFL are very hard to come by. 48 men dress, 5 additional bodies on the inactive list and another 6 or so on the "taxi" squad. That means there are only approx. 60 spots per team. With the number of injuries and the fact that many teams use 3 WR sets, finding a spot for a 3rd tight end that has never played before isn't going to happen to often. Charles has the body type, no doubt, but I don't know if he can catch the ball or block effectively enough.

[rollo]

At 6'2", if Lowery only weighs 165#, he's in trouble. Who's he going to guard? How's he going to survive the middle? Box out???

For his sake, he better have a 35" vertical and be able to bench 250#.

With that kind of frame, I think London's minutes are safe.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Gazoo Looks like Charles is auditioning for his next career: tight end. I find it really hard to believe that no one would give him a roster spot in the NFL with that kind of frame and athleticism.

The one thing that has been missing is a strong "want to" motor---all the time. If the scouts want to compare him to Antonio Gates, or even Matellus Bennett, that's the block they can't check.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by rollo For his sake, he better have a 35" vertical With that kind of frame, I think London's minutes are safe.

I would bet some Monopoly money that Rob has that.

[LebronJames]

Originally Posted by Gazoo MP is 6-2 197?! Yikes, someone bar the door to Chipotle.

6-2, 197 is not monstrous...

Heck, Marcus Johnson is listed as 6-3, 196 and he is just rock solid, muscular and a good build.

I don't see why the same can not apply to Mickey as well. Apparently he has been working very hard since last season.

[NorthwestFlyer]

Looking at the roster, we are more likely to have three guards on the floor with the exception being when CW playing at the 3. Fab may see a little time there as well if his shot is hot and he can keep up on defense.

I think we are going to see MJ, Perry, and Williams grabbing time at the 2 and 3 spots. All should be capable of getting inside a bit, will be able to defend well and all should be a shooting threat. C Johnson will get a few minutes in there as well but will need a lot of grit to take the elbows inside.

If my memory serves me, Perry was grabbing more minutes towards the end of the season and was scoring on the inside and also grabbing quite a few boards. I don't think we would have seen that if he was 170#.

[Furio]

Got to love these "official" rosters heights and weights.
From previous years we discovered Nick Stafford somehow shrank 3 inches from year 1 to year 2. Desmond in year 2 listed as losing 30 pounds when he was still north of 300 pounds.
I hope CL didn't add any more weight his ankles and feet don't need the pounding.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by Gazoo MP never looked that big. Weird.

I saw MP at the Deveroes. I thought he looked normal during the game, but afterwards all the players turn in their jerseys. I was suprised that he has some good upper body muscle. He was definitely not carrying fat weight.

[lilrudy4787]

Originally Posted by NorthwestFlyer 07-08 08-09 +/- Mickey Perry 193 197 4 Stephen Thomas 164 170 6 London Warren 180 185 5 Charles Little 237 247 10 Chris Wright 214 226 12 Marcus Johnson 193 196 3 Devin Searcy 208 226 18 Kurt Huelsman 240 245 5 Rob Lowery 165 Chris Johnson 176 Paul Williams 213 Luke Fabrizius 205 Josh Benson 205 Here is the change from year to year. Everyone on the team added at least a few pounds over last year. Take it for what it is, I remember some discussion about Kurt being heavier than what was stated on the roster. I don't know if Little needed to add weight, but it won't hurt if he keeps that vertical of his. Looks like the formatting skewed on the table.

its good to see KH and DS both added some weight. DS especially, we need him to come off the bench and grab some major boards. We cant have MJ or CW leading this team in rebounds. They need to be focusing on scoring.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	London Warren LONDON WARREN 6-0 185lb Junior Raines, HS | Jacksonville FL Nicknamed the "Jacksonville Jet", London Warren is perhaps UD's quickest player baseline to baseline. Leader in steals defensively, he likes to push tempo on offense. Working on his shot and confidence at the charity stripe. 2007-08 | 4.3ppg 2.9rpg 2006-07 | 2.4ppg 1.7rpg

[jcubspoe]

Originally Posted by lilrudy4787 its good to see KH and DS both added some weight. DS especially, we need him to come off the bench and grab some major boards. We cant have MJ or CW leading this team in rebounds. They need to be focusing on scoring.

why can't we have CW lead us in rebounding? I fully expect him to do just that. 8-9 rpg isn't out of the question for him...who's going to get more then that for us?

[lilrudy4787]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe why can't we have CW lead us in rebounding? I fully expect him to do just that. 8-9 rpg isn't out of the question for him...who's going to get more then that for us?

im not saying it couldnt happen, but wouldnt u rather have him put up 20 and 5 rather than 15 and 8?

[nbflyer]

Originally Posted by lilrudy4787 im not saying it couldnt happen, but wouldnt u rather have him put up 20 and 5 rather than 15 and 8?

What's with the trade off? Less rebounds do not mean more points and vice versa. Unless, of course you want CW to start cherry picking and forget defensive rebounding, and for how many second chance points we have given up in the past, it's just not an option.

[lilrudy4787]

Originally Posted by nbflyer What's with the trade off? Less rebounds do not mean more points and vice versa. Unless, of course you want CW to start cherry picking and forget defensive rebounding, and for how many second chance points we have given up in the past, it's just not an option.

it does not mean there will be a trade off for sure, but more rebounds for CW means that someone else will be running for putting up shots in fast break and transition situations. Wouldnt you rather see DS/KH picking up the bulk of the boards and letting our freakish athletes run the floor and score some easy transition baskets?

[jdm470]

Did anyone else notice that Chris Wright changed numbers? He's now #33 instead of #23. Sorry to all those who bought #23 jerseys/shirts last year. You know have a Luke Fabrizius jersey.

Also, I just noticed that London is now #1. Well, not literally, but his jersey number.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

[MrFlyerFanatic]

Originally Posted by lilrudy4787 it does not mean there will be a trade off for sure, but more rebounds for CW means that someone else will be running for putting up shots in fast break and transition situations. Wouldnt you rather see DS/KH picking up the bulk of the boards and letting our freakish athletes run the floor and score some easy transition baskets?

CW will grab defensive rebounds, outlet, and be the second option or the put-back trailer on the break. When he's in his groove, he makes people look like they are standing still.

[hawkoooo]

paul dubs at 213...kid has to be a stud

[Swampy Meadows]

That's up 8 lbs. from his HS weight.