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Old 08-18-2015, 12:41 PM
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Tip Off Marathon

Dayton will play the Tide in the annual ESPN 24 hour tip off marathon. The game scheduled for Tues Nov 17 will start @1pm.

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Been posted several times, where's the enzo at?
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Nice that there's no game before ours on ESPN. Everytime we play on ESPN, the game before us is a lock to go overtime leading to our game being joined after 8 minutes have been played in the first half. Most famous was our A10 final game against Temple in 2003 where I believe the coverage missed about 12 minutes of the first half.
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This was posted in the "out of conference" thread already, but the full schedule for the Tip Off Marathon has now been released by ESPN. Here is the press release from ESPN with the entire schedule:

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-re...-off-marathon/

2015 College Hoops Tip-Off Marathon Schedule (subject to change)

Date Time (ET) Game Network
Mon, Nov 16
5:30 p.m. No. 1 UConn at No. 13 Ohio State (women) ESPN2
7:30 p.m. No. 4 Virginia at George Washington ESPN2
9 p.m. Legends Classic: Kennesaw State at LSU ESPNU
9:30 p.m. San Diego State at No. 13 Utah ESPN2
11:30 p.m. No. 17 Baylor at Oregon ESPN2

Tue, Nov 17
1:45 a.m. BYU at Long Beach State ESPN2
4 a.m. Nevada at Hawaii ESPN2
6 a.m. Green Bay at East Tennessee State ESPN2
8 a.m. Stephen F. Austin at Northern Iowa ESPN2
10 a.m. Valparaiso at Rhode Island ESPN2
1 p.m. Alabama at Dayton ESPN
3 p.m. Colorado at Auburn ESPN
5 p.m. No. 8 Oklahoma at Memphis ESPN
7:30 p.m. State Farm Champions Classic (United Center, Chicago): No. 3 Kentucky vs. No. 6 Duke ESPN
9 p.m. Georgetown at No. 1 Maryland ESPN2
10 p.m. State Farm Champions Classic (United Center, Chicago): No. 5 Kansas vs. No. 19 Michigan State
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Originally Posted by Buster Goode View Post
Nice that there's no game before ours on ESPN. Everytime we play on ESPN, the game before us is a lock to go overtime leading to our game being joined after 8 minutes have been played in the first half. Most famous was our A10 final game against Temple in 2003 where I believe the coverage missed about 12 minutes of the first half.
I believe a big part of the first half of the Pitt game was missed too because of the game before going to overtime as well.

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Old 08-18-2015, 01:34 PM
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Been posted several times, where's the enzo at?
Sorry I haven't read every mind numbing post including over 3k by you. It was officially released today.

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Are they going to count this as part of the Orlando Tipoff Classic (or Advocare Classic, or whatever the hell they're not calling it)?? It's within fourteen days of the end of the tournament, so it could count as the fourth exempt game.

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No because they couldn't find another quality game. Would have ended up just being another buy game if they wanted one more.
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Are they going to count this as part of the Orlando Tipoff Classic (or Advocare Classic, or whatever the hell they're not calling it)?? It's within fourteen days of the end of the tournament, so it could count as the fourth exempt game.

Just asking. Thanks in advance to anyone that may know.
I don't believe so. Or even if they are, I don't believe they intend to add another game.
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Are games actually being played at 6:00 and 8:00 in the morning? I'm thinking !:00 on a Tuesday is going to be tough for some working folks and students who have classes, but it is a heck of a lot more desirable than playing at sunrise.
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Are games actually being played at 6:00 and 8:00 in the morning? I'm thinking !:00 on a Tuesday is going to be tough for some working folks and students who have classes, but it is a heck of a lot more desirable than playing at sunrise.
They are playing for like 28 straight hours. Have been doing this for a few years now.
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It would be interesting to see what kind of crowd we would get at 6:00 am.
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Sorry I haven't read every mind numbing post including over 3k by you. It was officially released today.

Where are the preposition police....at?
Thanks for bringing the topic back in a more focused thread.

In the spirit of continuous improvement. I hate the 4th and 5th and 6th...and............page thread that is all over the place. It gets too complex for my simple brain and boredom sets in.

At the risk of being ridiculed...I wish the four letter word "Enzo" were eliminated from our UDPride vocabulary. I think it kind of ****es people (and intimidates new topic posters) off...especially the poster...even when offered in jest.. just sayin'. I have not started new topics for this reason alone. Maybe there are others too?

BTW-if this four letter Enzo thing has been buried in another thread...please don't tell everyone by giving me a kidding-Enzo. I really don't like being publically ridiculed...even when said in jest. Sort of like the chalk on the blackboard thing...or maybe a Don Rickles thing.

Humor doesn't transfer well on the internet...I know because (to my misfortune) I have really ****ed a lot of people off with my dry East Coast humor.
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I've got a really great idea...can we Enzo people who use this 4 letter word?
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So we have the first game of the year on ESPN

And the last game of the year on CBS.

I like it!
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They used their own "No Longer Too Early Top 25" rankings to rank teams.
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I hate it. A Tuesday game at the arena in the middle of the day. I have a tough time believing we'll have as strong a turnout than we normally would in the evening....
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I hate it. A Tuesday game at the arena in the middle of the day. I have a tough time believing we'll have as strong a turnout than we normally would in the evening....
You can't turn down a game on ESPN and itcould be worse - we could be a 4am game
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I hate it. A Tuesday game at the arena in the middle of the day. I have a tough time believing we'll have as strong a turnout than we normally would in the evening....
WE may not....but I wouldn't trade the opportunity to be part of ESPN that day---would you?

The flyer faithful (or a substitute or two) will be as strong as ever! The bigger question maybe whether the students will "skip class" to attend ?

Our fans are some of the best in the country as we all know------if we show up in Maui, Charleston, Memphis, Orlando and Puerto Rico in droves------I don't believe they'd miss this home opener against Bama' @ the UD arena despite the time of the tip off!

I know I marked off the date on my calendar already!
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This is an opportunity to get more students to attend the games. Free tickets plus some type of lunch to all that attend.
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
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I hate it. A Tuesday game at the arena in the middle of the day. I have a tough time believing we'll have as strong a turnout than we normally would in the evening....
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
Seriously??? This is the ESPN Classic on ESPN, a great opportunity. You take what you can get. I guess we should have just declined the opportunity to be on national TV in the season-opening ESPN marathon and all the positive publicity that goes with it. Wow, now that we have won 5 NCAA games in two years we can't complain about the program any more, so I guess we have to find something else to complain about. I thought the complaining would end after the Elite 8. The Faithful will show up in force! (even if they have to take a half day off work)
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
You buy season tickets without knowing game times, this isn't anything new. We usually have to decide to renew the tickets before even knowing dates and some opponents. If you keep any type of busy schedule, you'll probably have to miss a game or plan around it, that's just life. In this case, I'll have to try to plan work around it or not go. It's not the end of the world. It's good for the program to be on ESPN, and that's more important than the money I spent on tickets to this one game, particularly in the context of an entire season's worth of tickets.

From a student's perspective, it's the same thing. I would've enjoyed it as a student because it would be a different experience for one game while leaving my evening free. But if they can't make it because of another committment, they don't have to come. It's not that different from any of the other tournament games that occur during the day as far as watching the game.
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
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Afternoon games seem to work well for the Reds, as they do several per season and have done so for years. I think we will still pack the arena, and my hunch is many local bars may be real busy right after the game.
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
This is why they give you a few months notice to plan accordingly. Whether that is make plans to go, or sell your tickets, or give them to people who can. Games like this are a little bigger than the 1/3 of season ticket holders who can't or choose not to attend.

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I wouldn't worry about the students missing class. They really only showed up for 2 games last year - the first and URI.
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Are these the same students who do not come to evening games because they are studying?
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You can't turn down a game on ESPN and itcould be worse - we could be a 4am game
That 4AM game is actually an 11PM game. I'd take that on a Tuesday over a 1PM game.

So you're telling me, for the chance to be televised for one game on ESPN, you're ok with turning our court into a 7-8k person arena over a 12-13k person? What happens if we lose that nationally televised game at home because we don't have a home court advantage. Just saying... I'd much rather have the favorable time that doesn't throw off our team's schedule along with home court advantage than get one game on ESPN. We'll have plenty other nationally televised games.
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
So you would rather have another run of the mill week night buy game against an RPI 150+ team than a game against a Power 5 school on the national stage as part of ESPN's annual start to the hoops season that only a handful of teams get to participate in? Come on now...

Most students have classes in the morning or evenings, a large majority of students are probably wide open between 12:30-3:30. If people can't get off work for a few hours that's unfortunate but it's not unreasonable to be a season ticket holder and have to miss a few games due to whatever reason.

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Seriously??? This is the ESPN Classic on ESPN, a great opportunity. You take what you can get. I guess we should have just declined the opportunity to be on national TV in the season-opening ESPN marathon and all the positive publicity that goes with it. Wow, now that we have won 5 NCAA games in two years we can't complain about the program any more, so I guess we have to find something else to complain about. I thought the complaining would end after the Elite 8. The Faithful will show up in force! (even if they have to take a half day off work)
I was never one to complain about scheduling or anything else. This is something that, to me, is just ridiculous. I can see Wright State or Youngstown State jumping at the opportunity to play a nationally televised game, but WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS. This is basically succumbing for no reason! We have other nationally televised games and one fewer or one more is not a huge deal IMO. Last year we played 21 nationally televised REGULAR SEASON games. Why are we bending over backwards, asking people to miss work, students to skip class, and people to tune in just for a televised game? I really don't think it helps us as much as it hurts us.

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So you would rather have another run of the mill week night buy game against an RPI 150+ team than a game against a Power 5 school on the national stage as part of ESPN's annual start to the hoops season that only a handful of teams get to participate in? Come on now...

Most students have classes in the morning or evenings, a large majority of students are probably wide open between 12:30-3:30. If people can't get off work for a few hours that's unfortunate but it's not unreasonable to be a season ticket holder and have to miss a few games due to whatever reason.
Uh- let's be clear. Bama is a Power 5 game by name only. They were 86th in the RPI last year. Sooo yeah. I'll take a top 150 game on a weeknight instead, thanks. Bama doesn't do much for our SOS.
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Lets see...

Rhody is having a game at 10:00 AM
Auburn at 2 PM (local time)
Memphis at 4 PM (local time)

Plus Alabama deemed it good enough to willingly play this game at UD in order to get on national TV in a "showcase" event when they were not willing to take a home & home with UD, starting at Alabama until ESPN gets involved.

Not only is this a showcase event, but there is likely 0 live sports competition (maybe Euro league soccer, don't know their schedule/time frames, anything else would be obscure to people in the States). This is the kind of thing that people fire up their watch ESPN app and follow from work thru the course of the day, even if they are not paying close attention, its good PR for the university and the basketball program. 2 hours of coverage, not much else to talk about.

Additionally, when the champions classic and other more nationally recognizable games are on later in the evening, UD will be one of the primary highlight packages available for half time presentation. Its certainly not ideal, but given 4 months of preparation, most fans can find a work around if needed, either vacation, half day, "work from home" day, etc... It certainly sucks for those that can't, but its not like this is the first time "ideal" start time has been compromised for the sakes of television. There have been 9:00 pm stars, middle of the week before, not only for ESPN, but for Fox Sports Ohio.

This is about as no-brainer as it gets for the athletic department. Unless UD can finds its way into the champions classic some day, its about as good as UD can get on a national stage outside of early season tournaments (which they already get into the best of them). Its the heart of NFL & college football seasons, start of the NBA & NHL. College basketball gets very little coverage outside of this marathon the prior to the Thanksgiving tournaments.
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I was never one to complain about scheduling or anything else. This is something that, to me, is just ridiculous. I can see Wright State or Youngstown State jumping at the opportunity to play a nationally televised game, but WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS. This is basically succumbing for no reason! We have other nationally televised games and one fewer or one more is not a huge deal IMO. Last year we played 21 nationally televised REGULAR SEASON games. Why are we bending over backwards, asking people to miss work, students to skip class, and people to tune in just for a televised game? I really don't think it helps us as much as it hurts us.

Stop drooling over "Nationally Televised" and "ESPN."
I assume when you say we had 21 nationally televised regular season games you are counting CBSSN and NBCSN. Those games are NOTHING compared to the exposure you get on ESPN, especially in a special event like this.The ESPN Tip-Off Classic is becoming kind of a big deal - 24 hours of hoops kicking off the season, plenty of exposure, something you can't get enough of. I am actually shocked by the reaction of a couple of you. I see this as a great opportunity and the time as no big deal. I think we should go on and on and on about this like ud2 did on the schedule.
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Uh- let's be clear. Bama is a Power 5 game by name only. They were 86th in the RPI last year. Sooo yeah. I'll take a top 150 game on a weeknight instead, thanks. Bama doesn't do much for our SOS.
It's not about Bama, it's about being 1 of 30 teams in college basketball asked to participate in ESPN's annual event that starts off the season. As a program we are not in a position to turn down nationally televised games like this, and I'm not talking about a game on CBS College Sports or NBC Sports or even ESNPU, this is ESPN, the premier program in sports.
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If we can get 8,000-9,000 people in the stands to watch a Wed/Thu First Round A10 Tourney game at UD Arena at noon vs two of the worst teams in the league, I doubt showing up at 1pm to actually watch UD in a regular season game vs Bama is going to present much of a hurdle for the Nation.
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I assume when you say we had 21 nationally televised regular season games you are counting CBSSN and NBCSN. Those games are NOTHING compared to the exposure you get on ESPN, especially in a special event like this.The ESPN Tip-Off Classic is becoming kind of a big deal - 24 hours of hoops kicking off the season, plenty of exposure, something you can't get enough of.
This is so true. There will be more people watching UD on ESPN at 1pm on a Tuesday then there will be for any non-ESPN game UD will play this year. Like it or not, ESPN still dominates cable sports market and any chance UD can get to play on ESPN, they must take advantage of it.

Plus, when there are 12k plus at UD arena for this game at 1pm on a Tuesday, count how many times the announcers reference the amazing crowd support UD gets. This is nothing but a positive for UD.
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I hate this on many levels. First now we are asking working people who have tickets to this game, to miss work or miss the game. If I want to go to this game, which as a season ticket holder, I already paid for to either use vacation time to not go. I am 100% not OK with being put in that position. Also what message is the U sending to the students? To me it sounds like, "cut class and go to the game instead kids, you know the class you paid for already."
WOW. I guess the athletic office should contact you before it works out its schedule each year. God forbid there is a 9:00 game, you might not get to bed on time.
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Seriously??? This is the ESPN Classic on ESPN, a great opportunity. You take what you can get. I guess we should have just declined the opportunity to be on national TV in the season-opening ESPN marathon and all the positive publicity that goes with it. Wow, now that we have won 5 NCAA games in two years we can't complain about the program any more, so I guess we have to find something else to complain about. I thought the complaining would end after the Elite 8. The Faithful will show up in force! (even if they have to take a half day off work)
I would suggest that the complaining will never end. It's what people do.
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That 4AM game is actually an 11PM game. I'd take that on a Tuesday over a 1PM game.

So you're telling me, for the chance to be televised for one game on ESPN, you're ok with turning our court into a 7-8k person arena over a 12-13k person? What happens if we lose that nationally televised game at home because we don't have a home court advantage. Just saying... I'd much rather have the favorable time that doesn't throw off our team's schedule along with home court advantage than get one game on ESPN. We'll have plenty other nationally televised games.
I'm fully expecting 12-13k in attendance. It's a unique event and people are going to want to be part of it. I expect there will be more buzz going around about this game being a 1PM than there would be if it was just another 7PM tip.
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I can see Wright State or Youngstown State jumping at the opportunity to play a nationally televised game, but WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS.
We are NOT better than this until the cable and networks say so. If we want exposure, it will be by their rules. That's reality. We wouldn't dare pass this up, and should be thankful we got it.
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The Tip Off Marathon garners big ratings, and most of the games sell out or come close to it. I don't know why or how. I don't even have a theory. But, they do.

Ranked teams from power conferences generally play in the afternoon, so it isn't as if you're stooping to some level that's beneath you by playing at 1pm. Last year, Baylor was at South Carolina, Wichita State played Memphis, and Utah played at San Diego State. Four of those teams were ranked. Those were the afternoon games. That's pretty good company.

Even the games that tip off at 6am or 8am draw decent crowds. Wofford and SFA cancelled classes last year, and both arenas were packed. Granted, Wofford's arena is rather small, but still.
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I came into this discussion expecting nothing but positive buzz about this. This is an event that u usually work from home during just to watch all of the games, and that's without having a dog in the fight!

As soon as I saw it announced that we were playing at 1pm on a Tuesday, I immediately blocked off my calendar and told my boss I'll be taking that day off!

So pumped for this upcoming season. This could be a real special one boys and girls.
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It's not about Bama, it's about being 1 of 30 teams in college basketball asked to participate in ESPN's annual event that starts off the season. As a program we are not in a position to turn down nationally televised games like this, and I'm not talking about a game on CBS College Sports or NBC Sports or even ESNPU, this is ESPN, the premier program in sports.
Exactly--they didn't have to invite us at all, and if we turn them down because 1:00 PM is beneath us (?!?!) they'll keep that in mind when it comes time for a different game they're considering later in the year or next year.

Even if we didn't feel honored to be one of 30 teams invited to participate in this event, you've got to kiss the ring, it's a fact of life.

The fact that we're going to have the arena rocking with no TV competition is going to have the announcers going ga-ga over the arena.
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Lets see...

Rhody is having a game at 10:00 AM
Auburn at 2 PM (local time)
Memphis at 4 PM (local time)

Plus Alabama deemed it good enough to willingly play this game at UD in order to get on national TV in a "showcase" event when they were not willing to take a home & home with UD, starting at Alabama until ESPN gets involved.
Of course they did! They realize the impact it has on the attendance lol! They think we'll get far fewer fans to show up so it's not as much of a home court advantage.

As for Rhody, 1PM might as well be 10AM. I would expect Rhody to take that game. Same with Auburn. Memphis gets something a bit more favorable at 4PM.
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This entire event is just plain cynical. Not just the UD game, but the whole marathon. For me, it's a big old SMH moment. However, I will likely use a day and go.
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Look- I hope you guys are all right and we turn out a packed house. I HOPE I'm wrong. I guess I just don't see this as big an event as you guys do. I've seen it every year and there are just as many bad teams as there are good teams in it. It's not like getting invited to Maui or the pre-season NIT IMO. It's one ESPN game. Whoop-dee-doo.

Again, I'm not one to EVER complain and laugh about all the other complaints on here. I just think bending over backwards for an ESPN game and having students miss classes and people call off work is ridiculous and avoidable.

With that said, I'll be watching on my second screen at my work computer.
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All kinds of nuggets in this article by Doug Harris about the tip off marathon and the scheduling philosophy in general.

I am stoked for this game. Whether or not Bama is primed for a great year, they are a solid SEC foe, and as many have stated, it's an amazing opportunity to have UD Arena, the Flyer Faithful, and most inportantly, our Flyers front and center of the college basketball universe.

Sure, a regular 7 pm game would be nice, but this is a fun event, it gets a lot of eyeballs, and it will be good exposure and good practice for the rest of the year. Plus, Bama has been killing it on the recruiting trail and this is supposed to now be a home and home series. They will be tough in 2016.

This is full of win all around. UD should make this trade 100 out of 100 times to get this game.
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Of course they did! They realize the impact it has on the attendance lol! They think we'll get far fewer fans to show up so it's not as much of a home court advantage.

As for Rhody, 1PM might as well be 10AM. I would expect Rhody to take that game. Same with Auburn. Memphis gets something a bit more favorable at 4PM.
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Uh- let's be clear. Bama is a Power 5 game by name only. They were 86th in the RPI last year. Sooo yeah. I'll take a top 150 game on a weeknight instead, thanks. Bama doesn't do much for our SOS.
You would actually trade an 86 RPI P5 team (which gives us a good road game next year) for a 150+ RPI buy game??? Wow, don't tell ud2; he would have a stroke.
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I cannot remotely believe people are complaining about this.
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I cannot remotely believe people are complaining about this.
I can't either. I think the novelty of this time and national coverage will bring out the crowds. I know bunches of fans who will take the day or half of the day off of work and go to the game. I think that it could be an amazing atmosphere. I love the Tipp Off Marathon. I watched it for hours and hours last year.

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Bengals play at home Monday night and the Flyers at 1 Tuesday and I will be at both in person - what more can a true sports fan ask for? What a great way to start the week!

My kids won't be able to go but I bet I don't have any problem finding plenty of people willing to suffer along with me even though we will have to take a vacation day.
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I cannot remotely believe people are complaining about this.
I am sorry, but I can believe it ------unfortunately! Should be a great time! Go Flyers!
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All kinds of nuggets in this article by Doug Harris about the tip off marathon and the scheduling philosophy in general.
GREAT article for all the people who think they could schedule better than UD does!

Edit: I just read this article again. This is a must read for all the "schedule complainers."

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I live in Cincinnati. Have had season tickets for 2 decades. 7 pm, 9 pm, midnight, 4 am, i'll be there. I'm going to Notre Dame that weekend. Already had taken off Friday-Monday for that weekend. When I saw the facebook posting about this 1 pm game, I immediately went to my boss and said "I have to update my vacation status for November. I won't be here Nov 17 due to a Dayton daytime b-ball game". it is currently August. You know what my boss's reaction was: "No problem, simply turn in an updated vacation form".
What's my point: we've been given multiple months advance notice. I'm guessing a minimum of 80% of ticket holders (probably higher) will have no problem getting the day free with that type of notice. The team is now really really good under Archie. I'm betting over 11K show. I'll GUARANTEE it will not be under 10K. Not this incredible fanbase, not under this amazing coach.

I will not make fun of those that can't make it. This occurs. Life is not always fair. I've had to miss a couple of games in the past for circumstances beyond my control. it sucked, I was unhappy, but I dealt with it. If you truly can't make it, try to make the best of it and see if you know someone that you can give your tickets to, or see if you can sell them. Not ideal, but make the situation better by making someone else happy.

However, I do NOT have sympathy for anyone that can make it but this game time "inconveniences" them. As has been stated, first world problem. if this time frame inconvenience gets you this lathered up, I surely don't want to be around if you are in a minor fender bender, or a strong wind pulls an awning or siding off your house (happened to me in the aftereffects of the one massive hurricane a few years ago), or something else not life threatening but obviously bigger/more important than the time of a game, because I really can't imagine how you would handle these other issues, but I assume it would't be pretty.
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Here's another thought, its also an opportunity for some to make a game, that otherwise couldn't make it. I'm thinking of the the guy/girl with young children with multiple activities that is often tied up in the evenings and weekends, and can't get away for 2 hours on a regular basis, so they follow on TV or become a casual observer, having to turn down ticket offers from friends, family, business associates, etc... because they are at a spot in life where Wednesday evenings and weekends are often busy. Now its a chance for them to attend a game while the kids are in school, its a chance for a business with season tickets to invite a client that is usually tied up in the evenings and can't attend.

There will be 11,000 + there, I expect that it will sell out or at least be near peak capacity. This is something unique that will feel like an event, not just another game on the schedule.
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I live in Cincinnati. Have had season tickets for 2 decades. 7 pm, 9 pm, midnight, 4 am, i'll be there. I'm going to Notre Dame that weekend. Already had taken off Friday-Monday for that weekend. When I saw the facebook posting about this 1 pm game, I immediately went to my boss and said "I have to update my vacation status for November. I won't be here Nov 17 due to a Dayton daytime b-ball game". it is currently August. You know what my boss's reaction was: "No problem, simply turn in an updated vacation form".
What's my point: we've been given multiple months advance notice. I'm guessing a minimum of 80% of ticket holders (probably higher) will have no problem getting the day free with that type of notice. The team is now really really good under Archie. I'm betting over 11K show. I'll GUARANTEE it will not be under 10K. Not this incredible fanbase, not under this amazing coach.

I will not make fun of those that can't make it. This occurs. Life is not always fair. I've had to miss a couple of games in the past for circumstances beyond my control. it sucked, I was unhappy, but I dealt with it. If you truly can't make it, try to make the best of it and see if you know someone that you can give your tickets to, or see if you can sell them. Not ideal, but make the situation better by making someone else happy.

However, I do NOT have sympathy for anyone that can make it but this game time "inconveniences" them. As has been stated, first world problem. if this time frame inconvenience gets you this lathered up, I surely don't want to be around if you are in a minor fender bender, or a strong wind pulls an awning or siding off your house (happened to me in the aftereffects of the one massive hurricane a few years ago), or something else not life threatening but obviously bigger/more important than the time of a game, because I really can't imagine how you would handle these other issues, but I assume it would't be pretty.
Connecting the two is pretty idiotic. Any connection you make between this and... a fender bender or weather, is silly.

Everyone is talking about how great this is for exposure and it's an ESPN game so you HAVE to take it. It's just funny to me that everyone preaches academics and how important they are ALL OVER this blog. Yet, when it comes to having students skip class, and we're not talking syllabus week, everyone is cool with it.

It IS a first world problem lol, but isn't everything we talk about first world problems? Whenever you guys complain about a coach, a player, opposing fans (blogs dedicated to just that), no one says #firstworldproblems. But let's just all go ahead and add hypocritical to the mix.
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Connecting the two is pretty idiotic. Any connection you make between this and... a fender bender or weather, is silly.

Everyone is talking about how great this is for exposure and it's an ESPN game so you HAVE to take it. It's just funny to me that everyone preaches academics and how important they are ALL OVER this blog. Yet, when it comes to having students skip class, and we're not talking syllabus week, everyone is cool with it.

It IS a first world problem lol, but isn't everything we talk about first world problems? Whenever you guys complain about a coach, a player, opposing fans (blogs dedicated to just that), no one says #firstworldproblems. But let's just all go ahead and add hypocritical to the mix.
And here we go.....
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When I was at UD, I skipped class for far lesser reasons than to go to a basketball game! I'm sure the true student fans will make it out.
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And here we go.....
lol I'm not TRYING to start a big argument, and I've said my peace. I'm done writing on this thread.

All the best to everyone and here's to a strong and healthy season and 12k+ LOUD fans in attendance for that game.
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Connecting the two is pretty idiotic. Any connection you make between this and... a fender bender or weather, is silly.

Everyone is talking about how great this is for exposure and it's an ESPN game so you HAVE to take it. It's just funny to me that everyone preaches academics and how important they are ALL OVER this blog. Yet, when it comes to having students skip class, and we're not talking syllabus week, everyone is cool with it.

It IS a first world problem lol, but isn't everything we talk about first world problems? Whenever you guys complain about a coach, a player, opposing fans (blogs dedicated to just that), no one says #firstworldproblems. But let's just all go ahead and add hypocritical to the mix.
Yes, because kids never skip class to watch NCAA basketball games, bowl games, or any other sporting event. Heck, I know kids that skipped class for national signing day for football. I know I did not attend any classes during the first 2 days of the NCAA tourney whether UD was playing or not. Like people who have to take off work, kids can decide if it's worth missing class. They are old enough to make that decision.
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Cancel all classes the Afternoon of the game. Set up a big screen tv elsewhere on campus, free for all students, door prizes, food, etc.....make it a party in a safe environent, and provide some great shots for ESPN of the overflow crowd of 5k who could not get tickets for the sold out big event
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lol I'm not TRYING to start a big argument, and I've said my peace. I'm done writing on this thread.

All the best to everyone and here's to a strong and healthy season and 12k+ LOUD fans in attendance for that game.
I just hope you have read the Doug Harris article cited by THirt above. (And there are some other people who need to read it too.)
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How dare the NCAA schedule an NCAA tournament game during a weekday afternoon. Nobody will get to see us beat OSU.

It's one game and it will be a lot of fun. I love the marathon day. It's great to wake up and watch some random MAC game while eating breakfast. Taking the day off to go to Dayton for an afternoon tip will be even better. It will certainly be less of a hastle for me than commuting from Columbus for a game that tips off after 9 on a weekday. That's made for a really rough morning at work the next day. But you either make it work or you don't, but that doesn't mean that the school was wrong for scheduling it. It will be a lot of fun for the thousands that make it.
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bhflyer5 View Post
Connecting the two is pretty idiotic. Any connection you make between this and... a fender bender or weather, is silly.

Everyone is talking about how great this is for exposure and it's an ESPN game so you HAVE to take it. It's just funny to me that everyone preaches academics and how important they are ALL OVER this blog. Yet, when it comes to having students skip class, and we're not talking syllabus week, everyone is cool with it.

It IS a first world problem lol, but isn't everything we talk about first world problems? Whenever you guys complain about a coach, a player, opposing fans (blogs dedicated to just that), no one says #firstworldproblems. But let's just all go ahead and add hypocritical to the mix.
I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but you're exaggerating minor points and ignoring major points to try to feel justified.

1. We don't HAVE to take this game. We don't have to play any games. We choose to because it's wise. I highly doubt we called up ESPN and said "we'll only play in your little tournament if you put us in the 7:00 PM time slot. Because we're just that important."

2. Students skip class every day for various reasons. And yet, still graduate. Not every student and every class, but it's going to be OK. Campus-wide GPA's will not drop because of this.

3. It's not great exposure, but it's good exposure. And it builds relationships with ESPN.

4. We have not historically been invited at all because we were historically not really relevant in the preseason. So yes, one way to say it is "first world problem" but what that means in this context is that we're finally somewhat relevant again. It doesn't mean this game is more important than solving world hunger.

You went out on a limb, and rather than consider other (better) arguments you continue sawing.
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Originally Posted by m21eagle45 View Post
Yes, because kids never skip class to watch NCAA basketball games, bowl games, or any other sporting event. Heck, I know kids that skipped class for national signing day for football. I know I did not attend any classes during the first 2 days of the NCAA tourney whether UD was playing or not. Like people who have to take off work, kids can decide if it's worth missing class. They are old enough to make that decision.
Back in the day, I had Doc O'Leary for four econ classes over two years. His approach was if you skipped a class a C was the best grade you could get. Being a flyer fan and a traveler to away games, I never did get higher than a C. Maybe not the smartest move as far as grade point average goes, but glad we traveled.
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Just in case readers are too busy to read the whole Doug Harris article, here are the last two paragraphs by Archie:

"The crazy thing is, people are dying to be on at 1 in the morning to be part of that basketball marathon on ESPN," he said. "We've had a lot of discussions the last couple years about it, and that's a huge day in college basketball right now. They've put together a 24-hour (March) madness mentality, and there's teams trying to go all over the country to get on that one day because there's so much exposure.

"For us, to be at UD Arena at 1 p.m. on ESPN, you can't pass up on that. I know for our fans, in particular our students, it's going to be very interesting to see (how they respond). But we have to be absolutely ready at 1 o'clock in that arena to play Alabama, and I know what we're going to be able to bring to the table on national television in that game."
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Just in case readers are too busy to read the whole Doug Harris article, here are the last two paragraphs by Archie:
Anybody who is too busy to read the entire article should never complain about the Tip-Off Marathon or scheduling in general ever again.
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Seems to me it is great to be the first game on ESPN for the marathon. I'll be there. Hopefully the place will be packed.
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Back in the day, I had Doc O'Leary for four econ classes over two years. His approach was if you skipped a class a C was the best grade you could get. Being a flyer fan and a traveler to away games, I never did get higher than a C. Maybe not the smartest move as far as grade point average goes, but glad we traveled.

If memory serves, with Dr. Wolff it was 1 letter grade per miss. I had her for a class on St. Patrick's day. I think half the class was throwing back the last gulp before walking in the door at St. Joe's.

Back on topic... It's nice to have a job that can be worked remotely from home.
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Every year I try to convince myself to pull the all-nighter and watch the whole thing. This may be the year I finally do it.
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Every year I try to convince myself to pull the all-nighter and watch the whole thing. This may be the year I finally do it.
hawkoooo, you have to do it this year. It is a blast and I did it three years in a row then haven't had a chance to yet but now that my kids are a little older I may consider doing it again. I personally love the Marathon and watching teams you normally don't see so that is a lot of fun. My boss already knows I will be at the Arena so I have my work pass. I can't wait!
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"This most certainly will be Archie Miller’s last season at the school, as he is the best coach on the market and should have his pick of jobs."

Well then, I guess we should schedule the good-bye tour.
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"This most certainly will be Archie Miller's last season at the school, as he is the best coach on the market and should have his pick of jobs." And so it continues.....

Edit: I see Gazoo beat me to it.

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