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11-26-2017, 11:11 PM
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NCAA BIDS For A-10
The way this non conference season has started, ONE may be be it, or TWO if the regular season champ does not win the tourney. A down year across the board
thus far. As always, GO FLYERS!
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11-26-2017, 11:31 PM
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I agree it’s a down year so far in the A10. URI and the Bonnie’s picked up a couple of good wins this week. Let’s hope this keeps up for the rest of OOC. I think the A10 will probably get 2-3 bids, depending on how the chips fall.
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11-26-2017, 11:36 PM
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LaSalle beat Temple today.
That's about the only positive in A10 aside from our Akron win yesterday!
And as I'm editing, Rhodies beat The Hall on Friday i think. St Bonas have a lot of work to do.
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11-27-2017, 12:50 AM
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80% chance 1 bid, 15% chance 2 bids, and 5% chance or less 3 bids.
Rhody over Seton Hall and St Bonnie’s over Maryland are likely only top 50 wins at end of season. Lasalle over Temple because home game for Lasalle is likely top 100 win only.
Rhody and St Bonnie’s only shots at-large. They need to dominate rest of OOC and A-10 for at large consideration. This happens and one of the, best the other in A-10 finals and possibly 2 bids.
Need a Dayton or VCU or someone to win A-10 Tourmey after Rhody and St Bonnie’s dominate the rest of the year to get 3, highly unlikely.
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11-27-2017, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ruechalgrin
80% chance 1 bid, 15% chance 2 bids, and 5% chance or less 3 bids.
Rhody over Seton Hall and St Bonnie’s over Maryland are likely only top 50 wins at end of season. Lasalle over Temple because home game for Lasalle is likely top 100 win only.
Rhody and St Bonnie’s only shots at-large. They need to dominate rest of OOC and A-10 for at large consideration. This happens and one of the, best the other in A-10 finals and possibly 2 bids.
Need a Dayton or VCU or someone to win A-10 Tourmey after Rhody and St Bonnie’s dominate the rest of the year to get 3, highly unlikely.
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Thank the Lord Dayton doesn't have to play Auburn or St.Marys or Miss St in potential top 50 games or anybody else that might sniff that mark by seasons end.
UD has already lost those games, apparently.
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11-27-2017, 11:46 AM
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To put some data around it...
Most of this data I had saved from the Atlantic 10 message board where they used to track this annually. I had to update the data myself for the past few years, so there could be some minor errors. Bottom line is that the A-10 is on pace for 1-2 bids this year, as most people's guts are telling them. If things don't turn around, this could be the worst OOC record for the conference since 2005.
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.708 2014 Atlantic 10 6 bids
.665 2016 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.654 2013 Atlantic 10 5 bids
.643 2008 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.643 2008 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.624 2012 Atlantic 10 4 bids
.624 2010 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.618 2017 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.607 2015 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.593 2009 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.587 2004 Atlantic 10 4 bids
.587 2011 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.559 2000 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.556 2001 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.555 2006 Atlantic 10 2 bids
.541 2007 Atlantic 10 2 bids
.536 2003 Atlantic 10 3 bids
.522 2002 Atlantic 10 1 bid
.493 2018 Atlantic 10 X bid(s)
.406 2005 Atlantic 10 1 bid
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Notes:
5 bids was previously the most in
conference history before 2014
Also received 5 bids in 1997 and 1998
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Reason: Told you I would make mistakes...changed 2017 to 2018 as it refers to the year the tourney is played
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11-27-2017, 02:10 PM
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If two teams dominate the league (only losing to each other) and meet in the finals, I think they'll both make the tournament. Still too early to call us a 1-bid league, but we might be headed that way.
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11-27-2017, 03:52 PM
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It should also be pointed out that the A-10, while currently sitting at #10 in the RPI, has the 2nd hardest SOS currently:
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi.htm
The SEC is the only conference with a higher SOS rating, but it should be noted that their winning % is 61.2% compared to the A-10's sub 50%.
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11-27-2017, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski
Thank the Lord Dayton doesn't have to play Auburn or St.Marys or Miss St in potential top 50 games or anybody else that might sniff that mark by seasons end.
UD has already lost those games, apparently.
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Meant Maryland likely a top 50 win at end of season. Speculation right now as Maryland could end up top 25/50/100.
But Dayton's possible top 50/100 wins probably don't matter. Flyers will not be an at-large candidate. NIT candidate if improve massively throughout the year.
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11-28-2017, 10:27 AM
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Only whomever the committee absolutely has to. Conference winner and conference tournament winner, if different. The only A-10 team in today's rankings and that is RI last with 1 vote.
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11-28-2017, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ruechalgrin
80% chance 1 bid, 15% chance 2 bids, and 5% chance or less 3 bids.
Rhody over Seton Hall and St Bonnie’s over Maryland are likely only top 50 wins at end of season. Lasalle over Temple because home game for Lasalle is likely top 100 win only.
Rhody and St Bonnie’s only shots at-large. They need to dominate rest of OOC and A-10 for at large consideration. This happens and one of the, best the other in A-10 finals and possibly 2 bids.
Need a Dayton or VCU or someone to win A-10 Tourmey after Rhody and St Bonnie’s dominate the rest of the year to get 3, highly unlikely.
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Bonnies and URI have gone essentially the entire season without the 2 best players in the conference in Jay Adams and EC Matthews. So the fact these teams have quality wins without these guys is promising if both teams go on a run once they get healthy.
Rhode Island still has a chance to pick up a few more quality wins against Providence, Bama (and even college of Charleston). Bonnie's play at Syracuse and against Vermont (surprise fringe top 50 team).
If these guys do some damage in their remaining OOC schedule, get healthy, and run the table in the A10 going like 15-3 -- they're both in with RPIs around 20 & 30. The way the A10 is this year there is no reason a healthy URI and SBU shouldn't dominate. With what we have seen so far the only teams that would even remotely stand a chance against them would be VCU, Davidson, UD and maybe LaSalle. But truthfully I don't think we can beat those 2 teams this year.
In this scenario I could see a 3rd team sneaking in with a tournament win. Could you imagine a scenario where our young guys really start clicking come March and win a couple in DC?
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SAINT BONAVENTURE
Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf. |
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11-28-2017, 05:39 PM
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Just curious, when was the last time a conference not in the top 9 RPI (A10 is currently #10, and doubtful we climb much higher) received more than 1 at large bid to the tourney?
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11-28-2017, 06:40 PM
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Have you met C-Time's friend Juan Bidd?
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I'm just glad there is over 3 months of basketball yet to play.
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Have you met C-Time's friend Juan Bidd?
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Acquaintance might be a better description of how I know Juan, but he has told me that he has been watching a lot of the A-10 this year. I'm afraid we may become friends by the end of the season and might be watching the the A10 tournament championship game together.
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As far as the Flyers may be concerned, Juan was found to be here illegally and will have to go back and get here next year legally.
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11-29-2017, 11:28 AM
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One....and looking at a double digit seed at that
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
One....and looking at a double digit seed at that
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Similar to GW circa 2007?
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