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10-28-2008, 11:05 AM
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All Xavier Game Are Telivised This Season.
Pretty good job, wish we had that kind of TV Coverage.
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10-28-2008, 11:14 AM
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They said that Fox Sports Ohio only had 9 games to televise so they are doing a 1 hr preseason show this year. Just shows that with SUSTAINED success the coverage will come. Essentially they have every game on national television.
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10-28-2008, 11:24 AM
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Winning gets attention. Last year we won both of our ESPN games, this year the only 2 we have our X. I think that in itself speaks volumes, last year it took us playing @ Louisville and Pitt (where we worked out a deal with ESPN because of the Duke and Pitt game), this year we get the X games back on ESPN. If we have a good year this year and get a few "sexy" names on the schedule for next I could see us having anywhere from 4-8 ESPN / Fox National games. I'm not sure if we can ever get a deal with Fox Sports Ohio, they already have Xavier and now UC. I don't see Dayton fitting in that picture.
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10-28-2008, 11:52 AM
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Capture the flag
There are two Fox sport Ohio channels. A cleveland centric one and a Cincy centric one. I don't know if the X games are going out to the entire state or not.
I think we could get on the Cincy centric channel if we got as good as Xavier is. Our fan base would be as big or bigger so the ratings should support it. We have to win though.
Xavier is the Flagship, there I said it! We need to work hard and play capture the Flag!
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10-28-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by UDEE79
There are two Fox sport Ohio channels. A cleveland centric one and a Cincy centric one. I don't know if the X games are going out to the entire state or not.
I think we could get on the Cincy centric channel if we got as good as Xavier is. Our fan base wouls be as big or bigger so the ratings should support it. We have to win though.
Xavier is the Flagship, there I said it! We need to work hard and play capture the Flag!
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Northern Ohio gets Cavs 1, Blue Jackets 2, MAC basketball 3, and then Xavier and now UC I suppose.
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10-28-2008, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hUDygrad
They said that Fox Sports Ohio only had 9 games to televise so they are doing a 1 hr preseason show this year. Just shows that with SUSTAINED success the coverage will come. Essentially they have every game on national television.
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How do you figure they have every game on NATIONAL television?
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10-28-2008, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by longtimefan
How do you figure they have every game on NATIONAL television?
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I know LOL what?
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10-28-2008, 02:02 PM
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One thing about a regional sports network you can be anywhere in the country and buy a package that will let you watch Xavier, so in that sense it is national.
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10-28-2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by longtimefan
How do you figure they have every game on NATIONAL television?
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The major satellite providers and all the cable providers allow you to purchase different sports tiers. In Cincinnati, the TimeWarner sports tier for $4.00/month picks up CSTV and about 6 Fox Sports channels from all over the country. It's not that hard to figure out.
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10-28-2008, 03:10 PM
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two intitals of why we dont have better tv coverage like XU......TK.
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10-28-2008, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lilrudy4787
two intitals of why we dont have better tv coverage like XU......TK.
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Two reasons we don't have better TV coverage like XU:
(1) We haven't won enough
(2) We haven't won enough in the NCAA Tourney
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10-28-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by longtimefan
Two reasons we don't have better TV coverage like XU:
(1) We haven't won enough
(2) We haven't won enough in the NCAA Tourney
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Another reason is that Dayton has not beaten Xavier head to head a lot in the last 5 years. I really do not think Xavier would have gotten a TV deal in Cincinnati if they got beat by UC every year. Bottom line UC and Xavier are your competition for TV in this market, UC will not play you guys anymore, you have to start beating Xavier a lot more in order for the Cincinnati market/Ohio market to care enough to put you on.
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10-28-2008, 08:24 PM
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FSN-Ohio-Cincinnati will never pick us up. Its a matter of market size not how many times we have beaten Xavier. Cincinnati is #30 something (behind Columbus and Cleveland) and we are #60 something in market size. It doesn't matter how good we are.
The fact of the matter is that CSTV gets first dibs on our games after ESPN. Nobody other than Ch. 7 wants the leftovers. Out only hope for an RSN would be that Sportstime Ohio (which really should be called Sportstime Cleveland) picks up our games in an effort to get cable carriage in Southwest Ohio. Currently, the only thing Sportstime Ohio has in winter is Cleveland State basketball.
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10-28-2008, 10:27 PM
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cincinnati and dayton are pretty much the same market. both get fsn ohio, and both get the cincinnati feed. in the viewing area, there are more dayton fans than xavier fans. that's really what they care about, or should care about. bloomington indiana is a tiny market, but all of their games are on all over the state, and all over the country if you have directv and subscribe to the sports packages.
if i had to guess, i'd say that fsn ohio and ud just couldn't come to terms. perhaps ud felt they should get more money from fsn, and simply opted to stay with whio. i don't know if that's what happened, but it's a possibility. when xavier first signed the deal in 2002-2003, it's my understand that it wasn't for a whole lot. xu appeared to be more concerned with exposure than with money, and they didn't have that much of a tv deal to speak of. we had a local tv deal, but once you left cincinnati you left the viewing area. that was also the david west year, so we had several games on espn, which brought in some money. that, and the a-10tv network wasn't completely bankrupt yet. xu has been with fsn ever since.
at the time the deal first came about, xu hadn't won that many, or even been to that many ncaa tournament games. this all happened before the run and before david west's senior year. i think the main reason is that xu was willing to accept terms that ud wasn't willing to. maybe ud had their reasons. i don't know for sure what the terms really were at the time.
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10-29-2008, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by xubrew
cincinnati and dayton are pretty much the same market. both get fsn ohio, and both get the cincinnati feed. in the viewing area, there are more dayton fans than xavier fans. that's really what they care about, or should care about. bloomington indiana is a tiny market, but all of their games are on all over the state, and all over the country if you have directv and subscribe to the sports packages.
if i had to guess, i'd say that fsn ohio and ud just couldn't come to terms. perhaps ud felt they should get more money from fsn, and simply opted to stay with whio. i don't know if that's what happened, but it's a possibility. when xavier first signed the deal in 2002-2003, it's my understand that it wasn't for a whole lot. xu appeared to be more concerned with exposure than with money, and they didn't have that much of a tv deal to speak of. we had a local tv deal, but once you left cincinnati you left the viewing area. that was also the david west year, so we had several games on espn, which brought in some money. that, and the a-10tv network wasn't completely bankrupt yet. xu has been with fsn ever since.
at the time the deal first came about, xu hadn't won that many, or even been to that many ncaa tournament games. this all happened before the run and before david west's senior year. i think the main reason is that xu was willing to accept terms that ud wasn't willing to. maybe ud had their reasons. i don't know for sure what the terms really were at the time.
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So what you're really saying is you're really not sure.
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10-29-2008, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by John R
So what you're really saying is you're really not sure.
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precisely.
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10-29-2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by John R
So what you're really saying is you're really not sure.
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John R, that was your best post ever!
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