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Old 07-24-2019, 06:09 PM
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and North Carolina commits academic fraud and skates. Follow the money.
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:22 AM
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No mention of the FBI corruption investigation, but anyway...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/7/...on-dave-leitao
My take on this article is, “Cheat for 3 years; get suspended for 3 games.” If that’s the case, then how long would someone like Williams or Calipari need to sit-out?
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:24 AM
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Old 07-26-2019, 10:26 PM
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What about Louisville?

If this has been mentioned I apologize.

I cant figure out how Louisville has seemingly escaped punishment from the NCAA. I thought I remember reading they were caught paying a player WHILE ALREADY ON PROBATION for the escorts/strippers/etc.?

Did I miss something or am I mistaken?
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Originally Posted by PURPLE REIGN View Post
If this has been mentioned I apologize.

I cant figure out how Louisville has seemingly escaped punishment from the NCAA. I thought I remember reading they were caught paying a player WHILE ALREADY ON PROBATION for the escorts/strippers/etc.?

Did I miss something or am I mistaken?
Doesn't matter. Cleveland State got whacked, so all's right with the NCAA universe...
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Originally Posted by PURPLE REIGN View Post
If this has been mentioned I apologize.

I cant figure out how Louisville has seemingly escaped punishment from the NCAA. I thought I remember reading they were caught paying a player WHILE ALREADY ON PROBATION for the escorts/strippers/etc.?

Did I miss something or am I mistaken?
Old expression.
If Ohio State or Michigan or Louisville is caught cheating, Cleveland State is given the death penalty. The money causes the NCAA to look the other way.
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Old 07-28-2019, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PURPLE REIGN View Post
If this has been mentioned I apologize.

I cant figure out how Louisville has seemingly escaped punishment from the NCAA. I thought I remember reading they were caught paying a player WHILE ALREADY ON PROBATION for the escorts/strippers/etc.?

Did I miss something or am I mistaken?
Louisville has already been punished.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loui...15_sex_scandal
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:14 AM
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I read the link you shared. Thanks.

It says "As a result of a corruption scandal implicating various schools including Louisville on September 27, 2017, Louisville placed head coach Rick Pitino on unpaid administrative leave and athletic director Tom Jurich on paid administrative leave.[61] Rick Pitino and Tom Jurich would then be fired with cause by the University."

Where is the punishment? How is simply removing your AD and Coach suitable punishment for committing more NCAA infractions while already on probation?
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:16 AM
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I read the link you shared. Thanks.

It says "As a result of a corruption scandal implicating various schools including Louisville on September 27, 2017, Louisville placed head coach Rick Pitino on unpaid administrative leave and athletic director Tom Jurich on paid administrative leave.[61] Rick Pitino and Tom Jurich would then be fired with cause by the University."

Where is the punishment? How is simply removing your AD and Coach suitable punishment for committing more NCAA infractions while already on probation?
My mistake, I thought that you were referring to the 2015 Louisville recruiting sex scandal.

The 2017 recruiting scandal trials just wrapped up iinm, and punishment by the NCAA has yet to be determined/the ncaa enforcement process is ongoing iinm.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan View Post
Old expression.
If Ohio State or Michigan or Louisville is caught cheating, Cleveland State is given the death penalty. The money causes the NCAA to look the other way.
That was my point in an earlier post in this thread. The NCAA feigns shock and outrage, and then takes it out on the little guy (with Cleveland State being a convenient “little guy” 30-some years ago).
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...-pay-play-bill

This could open up a whole new can of worms.

"The bill, SB 206, called the Fair Pay to Play Act, would prohibit schools in California from taking away scholarships or eligibility from college athletes who use their celebrity to make money. Senate Bill 206 has cleared the state Senate and is awaiting a vote by the full California State Assembly."

"The Fair Pay to Play Act, which was introduced in February by state Sens. Nancy Skinner and Steven Bradford, also allows for athletes to hire an agent or attorney to represent them in business deals without losing their eligibility. Skinner said it would not require schools to pay their players, but instead guarantee players the same rights given to Olympic athletes. The law, if it is passed, would go into effect in January 2023.
NCAA president Mark Emmert wrote a letter to California legislators in May asking that they consider delaying their vote while his organization considered the impact of the law. Emmert suggested that California institutions, both public and private, would be barred from participating in NCAA championships if the law passed."
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...-pay-play-bill

This could open up a whole new can of worms.

"The bill, SB 206, called the Fair Pay to Play Act, would prohibit schools in California from taking away scholarships or eligibility from college athletes who use their celebrity to make money. Senate Bill 206 has cleared the state Senate and is awaiting a vote by the full California State Assembly."

"The Fair Pay to Play Act, which was introduced in February by state Sens. Nancy Skinner and Steven Bradford, also allows for athletes to hire an agent or attorney to represent them in business deals without losing their eligibility. Skinner said it would not require schools to pay their players, but instead guarantee players the same rights given to Olympic athletes. The law, if it is passed, would go into effect in January 2023.
NCAA president Mark Emmert wrote a letter to California legislators in May asking that they consider delaying their vote while his organization considered the impact of the law. Emmert suggested that California institutions, both public and private, would be barred from participating in NCAA championships if the law passed."
If ANYONE delays ANYTHING waiting on the NCAA then NOTHING will get done. Mark Emmert, you are laughable.
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...-pay-play-bill

This could open up a whole new can of worms.

"The bill, SB 206, called the Fair Pay to Play Act, would prohibit schools in California from taking away scholarships or eligibility from college athletes who use their celebrity to make money. Senate Bill 206 has cleared the state Senate and is awaiting a vote by the full California State Assembly."

"The Fair Pay to Play Act, which was introduced in February by state Sens. Nancy Skinner and Steven Bradford, also allows for athletes to hire an agent or attorney to represent them in business deals without losing their eligibility. Skinner said it would not require schools to pay their players, but instead guarantee players the same rights given to Olympic athletes. The law, if it is passed, would go into effect in January 2023.
NCAA president Mark Emmert wrote a letter to California legislators in May asking that they consider delaying their vote while his organization considered the impact of the law. Emmert suggested that California institutions, both public and private, would be barred from participating in NCAA championships if the law passed."

I hate everything about the idea of paying players. But, that doesn't mean we can't improve the current system which is admittedly totally dirty and screws the players.
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Just remember every time a player gets a higher salary and the college players get more benefits and better facilities the ticket buyers and advertisers have to pay more. The universities will never take it in the shorts, only the fans will.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-likeness.html

Looks like the NCAA and the schools in California are headed for a showdown.

"The California Assembly unanimously passed a bill Monday that would allow college athletes in the state to profit on their name, image and likeness, potentially setting up a battle with the NCAA over the future of amateur sports in the country.
In June, NCAA President Mark Emmert threatened that if the bill became law, schools in the state could be prohibited from participating in NCAA championships - a punishment that would cost California colleges and universities millions of dollars in media revenue.
Emmert's June comments notwithstanding, the NCAA President and the Board of Governors announced in May that they would explore the possibility of allowing athletes to be compensated for use of their name or likeness.
The NCAA does not currently allow athletes to profit off their own name, image and likeness. However, the NCAA, its schools, and the organization's media partners are permitted to use player likeness in advertisements and promotions."
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Originally Posted by cj View Post
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-likeness.html

Looks like the NCAA and the schools in California are headed for a showdown.

"The California Assembly unanimously passed a bill Monday that would allow college athletes in the state to profit on their name, image and likeness, potentially setting up a battle with the NCAA over the future of amateur sports in the country.
In June, NCAA President Mark Emmert threatened that if the bill became law, schools in the state could be prohibited from participating in NCAA championships - a punishment that would cost California colleges and universities millions of dollars in media revenue.
Emmert's June comments notwithstanding, the NCAA President and the Board of Governors announced in May that they would explore the possibility of allowing athletes to be compensated for use of their name or likeness.
The NCAA does not currently allow athletes to profit off their own name, image and likeness. However, the NCAA, its schools, and the organization's media partners are permitted to use player likeness in advertisements and promotions."
This could get interesting. As I understand the bill, it would only prevent CA state schools from removing an athlete's scholarship and has no impact on whether the NCAA takes separate action. Athletes and programs still have to be NCAA "certified" for lack of a better term, so I suppose the NCAA could sanction a player or school accordingly.

Remember, it's not about the student-athlete -- always follow the money...
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If just over three years from now we look up and see college athletes tweeting about their endorsement deals and making money off their talent, Sen. Nancy Skinner should be the person they thank for making such a reality.
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It’s one thing to tear down institutions, it’s another to have a plan to rebuild from the wreckage. Something George W didn’t consider fully when invading Iraq and something many politicians are not considering these days on many proposals.
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