Games of note 2019-2020 edition

[Medford]

Learned something new today. A loss in OT, no matter the final score is considered a 1 point loss in NET (I presume that a win would also be a 1 point 1 no matter the final score)

[Sticks 'n Stearns]

Originally Posted by ud69 Maryland hits 27 foot trey with 1.9 seconds left to win at Minnesota by 1.

By our old buddy Darryl Morsell, no less.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER As I understand it, that's basically what the RPI is/was. Your winning %, your opponent's winning %, and your opponent's opponent's winning %.

I believe it was modified to factor in home vs away results, as it should.
Road wins are tough.

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[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by ud69 Maryland hits 27 foot trey with 1.9 seconds left to win at Minnesota by 1.

Originally Posted by Sticks 'n Stearns By our old buddy Darryl Morsell, no less.

Minnesota missed the front end of a 1 and 1 THREE times in the final minutes of that game.
Ugh.

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[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark I believe it was modified to factor in home vs away results, as it should. Road wins are tough. _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

I'm not sure that the RPI is even "in" the committee war room anymore. But I wouldn't mind if it was...……...as the Flyers check in at #2 in the RPI, trailing only Kansas.

[Swampy Meadows]

ESPN just showed lowlights from the IU loss to Purdue including a shouting match on the bench between Archie and one of his assistants
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[cj]

Yes. Archie about burst a blood vessel.
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[ud2]

I would be interested in knowing how accurate the Torvik teamcast tool has been thru the years, the projections for it go back to 2008.

It would be nice if the site listed its prediction accuracy % for every year both in terms of how many teams it incorrectly picked to make the field and in terms of how accurate its seed predictions were.

Last year it looks like it was pretty accurate. The last four teams in were Temple, Belmont, Arizona State, and St. John's.

Torvik had Belmont as the last team in, Temple as the first team out, ASU as the 2nd team out, and SJU as the 8th team out.

So, it has Indiana as a projected 9 seed.

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[ud2]

Per Torvik, RI is the last team in, Richmond the first team out. Cincy the 3rd team out. ETSU getting its conference auto bid but being strong enough to be an at large-type 11 seed.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Chris R]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER I'm not sure that the RPI is even "in" the committee war room anymore. But I wouldn't mind if it was...……...as the Flyers check in at #2 in the RPI, trailing only Kansas.

The RPIs SOS is still around. Which makes no sense because it's based on RPI principles and math.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
No A-10 games scheduled

Flyer's OOC opponents:
#21 Colorado (21-8) 62 @ California (12-16) 76
Saint Mary's (24-6) 78 @ Santa Clara (18-12) 72
North Texas (19-10) 78 @ Florida International (17-11) 59
North Florida (20-11) 85 @ Stetson (15-15) 72

Other scores
Ranked teams:
San Diego (9-21) 59 @ #3 Gonzaga (28-2) 94
Oregon State (15-13) 54 @ #14 Oregon (22-7) 69
Wisconsin (18-10) 81 @ #19 Michigan (18-10) 74
#23 Ohio State (19-9) 75 @ Nebraska (7-21) 54

On the bubble:
Indiana (18-10) 49 ↓ @ Purdue (15-14) 57 ↑
Arizona (19-9) 48 ↓ @ USC (20-9) 57 ↑
Arizona State (19-9) 72 ↓ @ UCLA (18-11) 75 ↑
Temple (14-14) 69 @ Wichita State (21-7) 72 ↑
Louisiana Tech (20-8) 91 ↓ @ Western Kentucky (19-9) 95 ↑ (OT)
New Mexico State (23-6) 67 ↑ @ Grand Canyon (12-16) 53


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[Swampy Meadows]

Archie calmly discussing strategy with his assistants:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NYeoman/s...99473939099651
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[ud2]

The Torvik projections were updated I guess due to some later final scores last night. RI is now the projected 4th team out, Richmond is the 3rd team out, Cinci 1st team out.

RI should know how close to the edge they are, they should be playing for their life in our game Wed.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by ud2 The Torvik projections were updated I guess due to some later final scores last night. RI is now the projected 4th team out, Richmond is the 3rd team out, Cinci 1st team out. RI should know how close to the edge they are, they should be playing for their life in our game Wed.

...unless they lose to SLU Sunday!

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Go-UD-Go]

Originally Posted by Radar ...unless they lose to SLU Sunday!

They can't sink far enough that a win over the #4 team in the country can't fix it. We want them to go the other way. Trounce SLU and think to themselves "Losing to Dayton won't hurt. We're already in!"

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[434]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows Archie calmly discussing strategy with his assistants: https://mobile.twitter.com/NYeoman/s...99473939099651 Posted via Mobile Device

That's not any ole assistant coach.... that's Bruiser Flint. And if Bruiser was upset with the offense, you know it's got to be bad.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
Davidson (15-13) 67 @ #4 Dayton (27-2) 82 - Dayton clinches A-10 title

Flyer's OOC opponents:
no OOC opponents games scheduled

Other games
Ranked teams:
No other ranked teams scheduled

On the bubble:
Penn (13-11) 73 @ Yale (21-6) 76 ↑

Local interest:
Wright State (25-6) 64 @ Northern Kentucky (21-9) 62 - Wright State clinches Horizon League title


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[Radar]

Congrats to Wright State! They can use all the positivity that comes their way.

[frisco flyer]

Doke turned his ankle early in the Kansas K St. game. Could have seeding implications for Kansas.

[cj]

He’s back in.
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[Hobopotamus1]

KSU up vs. Kansas. KSU is bad. I doubt KSU will prevail, but if they did, how much do we think KU will drop?

[frisco flyer]

Upset alert: TCU over Baylor 60-55 with 3& a half minutes left

[cj]

63 55 with 2:23 left
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[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

65 -55 1:43 to go

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan 65 -55 2:23 to go

This is a upset that’s going to happen
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[frisco flyer]

Will TCU rush the court.
We shall find out very soon!

[frisco flyer]

Clemson takes down FSU on a last second shot.
The runway is clear for the Flyers.

[udx2]

Yes. TCU rushes the court. Big upset.

[udx2]

Dixon is happy and deserves to be.

[1903 Flyer]

Clemson beats FSU at the buzzer. Tigers have wins against Duke, Louisville and Free Shoes, but only six other wins in ACC games this season.
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[MD Flyer Pride]

That Florida State loss is HUGE for us. They were closely at our heels.

We now need Duke and Maryland to lose today!!!


Beat Rhode Island!


Go Flyers!

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[MrFlyerFanatic]

I doubt that SMC can beat Gonzaga in Spokane, but if they do, the rankings could get a major mix and that SMC win looks stronger.

[frisco flyer]

Winston drains a 60 footer at the half time buyer and MSU goes into the locker room leading by 11!

[T-Bone 84]

Sparty running the Terps out of their own gym, 61-43.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by MD Flyer Pride That Florida State loss is HUGE for us. They were closely at our heels. We now need Duke and Maryland to lose today!!! Beat Rhode Island! Go Flyers!

Duke already puked, and Maryland is down big to MSU in the 2nd half.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Flyer Al]

Nevada is giving SDSU a scare. Nevada is up 66-65 at the under 8 TO.

[MD Flyer Pride]

Maryland, Duke and Florida State all losing is a huge help for the Flyers. They were all projected on the 2 seed line with us.


Beat Rhode Island!


Go Flyers!

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[ud2]

Nevada was up on SDSU with maybe less than 10 minutes to go in the 2nd half, I thought they might pull the upset. SDSU is good but not great IMO, they did not look like a dominant team. They are beatable imo.

[ud2]

Gonzaga won 86-76 over SMC

[ud2]

And I have watched a bit of Gonzaga, I feel the same way about them, good but not great, not dominant, and beatable, but they look better than SDSU imo. This could be a wide open NCAAT.

[Glen Clark]

Winning On The Road Is Hard

A-10 scores:
UMass (13-16) 71 @ Richmond (22-7) 95
George Mason (15-14) 78 @ Duquesne (20-8) 81
George Washington (12-17) 51 @ VCU (18-11) 75
St Bonaventure (18-11) 65 @ La Salle (14-14) 73
Fordham (7-21) 69 @ Saint Joe's (6-23) 73

Flyer's OOC opponents:
#1 Kansas (26-3) 62 @ Kansas State (9-20) 58
Saint Mary's (24-7) 76 @ #3 Gonzaga (29-2) 86
Valparaiso (16-15) 58 @ Indiana State (18-11) 71
Northern Iowa (25-5) 70 @ Drake (18-13) 43
Omaha (16-15) 62 @ North Dakota State (22-8) 87
Arkansas (18-11) 89 @ Georgia (15-14) 99
Arkansas-Pine Bluff (4-24) 46 @ Grambling (15-13) 60
Charleston Southern (13-17) 65 @ Presbyterian (10-21) 76
McNeese (14-15) 100 @ Houston Baptist (3-24) 80

Other scores
Ranked teams:
#2 Baylor (25-3) 72 @ TCU (16-13) 75
#5 San Diego State (28-1) 83 @ Nevada (19-11) 76
#6 Florida State (24-5) 69 @ Clemson (15-13) 70
#7 Duke (23-6) 50 @ Virginia (21-7) 52
#15 Auburn (24-5) 66 @ #8 Kentucky (24-5) 73
#24 Michigan State (20-9) 78 @ #9 Maryland (23-6) 66
Providence (17-12) 58 @ #12 Villanova (22-7) 54
#13 Seton Hall (21-7) 88 @ Marquette (18-10) 79
#16 Penn State (21-8) 68 @ #18 Iowa (20-9) 77
#17 BYU (24-7) 81 @ Pepperdine (15-15) 64
Oklahoma (18-11) 73 @ #20 West Virginia (19-10) 62
Texas (18-11) 68 @ #22 Texas Tech (18-11) 58

On the bubble:
Arizona (19-10) 64 ↓ @ UCLA (19-11) 68 ↑
Arizona State (19-10) 61 ↓ @ USC (21-9) 71 ↑
Pittsburgh (15-15) 73 @ NC State (18-11) 77 ↑
Utah State (23-8) 64 ↓ @ New Mexico (18-13) 66
Western Carolina (18-11) 67 @ East Tennessee State (27-4) 68 ↑
Mississippi State (19-10) 67 ↑ @ Missouri (14-15) 63
The Citadel (6-23) 58 @ Furman (25-6) 82 ↑
UNC Greensboro (23-8) 72 ↓ @ Chattanooga (19-12) 74
New Mexico State (24-6) 62 ↑ @ CSU Bakersfield (12-18) 46
Memphis (20-9) 74 ↑ @ Tulane (12-17) 62


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[Glen Clark]

Liberty (27-4) 71 @ Lipscomb (14-15) 77

Liberty's loss to Lipscomb ties them with Flyer foe North Florida (20-11) for a share of the A-Sun title, and probably removes them from at-large consideration.

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[ud2]

The WCC and MW conference tournies are this week for Gonzaga and SDSU, they are a week ahead of us. I wonder if the extra week of rest before the NCAAT makes any difference?

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by ud2 The WCC and MW conference tournies are this week for Gonzaga and SDSU, they are a week ahead of us. I wonder if the extra week of rest before the NCAAT makes any difference?

The great debate....rest vs. rust.

[springborofan]

That is some outstanding work Glen! I was going to add Northern Iowa’s win against Drake to the On the bubble listings but, of course, you had already considered that since Drake was a Flyer Foe this year.

The other side of the games yesterday is I saw a lot of bubble teams like Providence, Oklahoma, Texas, and UCLA get strong wins yesterday. That hurts teams like Northern Iowa, ETSU, Richmond, and even Rhode Island. All the parity inside the P5 conferences has provided UD an opportunity for a high seed but probably reduces the likelihood of additional mid major teams getting an at large birth. Just the sheer number of opportunities for wins inside these conferences make it next to impossible for mid majors.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[MD Flyer Pride]

This Creighton loss is another big one for us! Losing to unranked St. John's (15-14) on the road.

As of this morning, they were on the 2-seed line with us. They will now move down!


Beat Rhode Island!


Go Flyers!

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by MD Flyer Pride This Creighton loss is another big one for us! Losing to unranked St. John's (15-14) on the road. As of this morning, they were on the 2-seed line with us. They will now move down! Beat Rhode Island! Go Flyers!

Creighton was NET 8 and SJU was 74 as of tip-off. Creighton will slip, but not too much, as this is (for now, anyway) a Q1 loss.

And, yes, beat Rhode Island! That will be an important Q1 win to get, in the interest of seeding.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[UD62]

Appears we have a cushion in the 2 seed group. Beat URI and we solidify a two( maybe a shot at a one). lose to URI, currently net 43 and we should not drop much at all given the performance of those around us.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[steverino015]

at halftime,
St Louis 26
Rhode Island 19

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[cj]

URI looks like they don’t care.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[shwag33]

Juan bid is lurking around the corner.

[cj]

URI down 6.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[CT Flyer]

It wouldnt surprise me if St. Louis does what they did last year and win the A10 tourney...hopefully we don't let that happen.

[udx2]

SLU wins by 10 at URI. They are hungry.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[cj]

IU down 2 at Illinois with 1m left
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[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by udx2 SLU wins by 10 at URI. They are hungry.

Either that or URI is like a lot of other teams having the Flyers in the on-deck circle. Not sure but it's happened quite a few times that favored teams have crapped the bed, most likely looking ahead one game to us. I actually had a feeling that RI would not turn in a good performance today and stayed away from that game. Losing by 10 is little bit of surprise, but not too much.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[CT Flyer]

Anyone see the crawl at the bottom of the OSU/Michigan game advertising our game on Wednesday at URI?

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[CE80]

Remember URI need 2 Jacob Toppin FTs with seconds left to beat Fordham. Granted Langevine did not play but still.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[steverino015]

#10 Creighton loses by 20 to St Johns..

Indiana loses by 1 to Illini, they are now
8-10 in conference play...

[Chris R]

Painful loss for URI they couldnt afford. They can make up for it by beating us this week, but URI and Richmond so close to the cut line does not project well on our own resume'. Right now the only team firmly in the NCAA tourney we've beaten all season is St Marys. Not exactly #2 seed resume' stuff. If we get docked seeding anywhere, it will be th lack of wins vs the NCAA at-large field and rightly so. A lot of it not our own doing -- other teams simply didnt do enough work. We were expecting VCU to be a Top-25 team for instance.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Chris R A lot of it not our own doing -- other teams simply didnt do enough work. We were expecting VCU to be a Top-25 team for instance.

I would say ALL of it was not our own doing unless you want to blame us for two overtime losses. And I don't.

As far as I'm concerned now, let's just win it all and I don't care where we're seeded and I really don't give rat's behind if nobody else in our conference gets there. They decided to only play their best games against the opponent they were least likely to beat and they will pay for it now.

I've watched a lot of college basketball this season and when you watch games Like OSU vs. Michigan and Mich St. vs Maryland or Duke vs. Anybody you then get a real picture of how beautiful our offense is. Teams forcing 3s but not having to worry about it because their opponents will do the same. Passing not in the same universe as ours. Whether we win it all or not, I don't know, but I do know we are capable of it.

[John C.]

I believe a lot of our opponents are doing what everybody is doing in college basketball, they win some and they lose some. Our problem is that we are not in a power conference where it is ok to lose. The fact that teams like Indiana are solidly in with most brackets says a lot about this year. Double digit losses is ok if you are power 5, not so much if you are not. It will be interesting when the 12 loss teams play teams from rumdum conferences and get their heads handed to them.

[The Fly]

Colorado going down for the third time in four games doesn’t help, either. They can kiss the top 25 polls goodbye.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
Saint Louis (21-8) 72 @ Rhode Island (20-8) 62

Flyer's OOC opponents:
#21 Colorado (21-9) 64 @ Stanford (20-9) 72
Virginia Tech (15-14) 52 @ #11 Louisville (24-6) 68
Western Kentucky (19-10) 72 @ North Texas (20-10) 78 (OT) - North Texas clinches Conference USA title

Other games
Ranked teams:
#10 Creighton (22-7) 71 @ Saint John's (15-14) 91
#19 Michigan (18-11) 63 @ #23 Ohio State (20-9) 77
Cincinnati (18-10) 55 @ #25 Houston (22-7) 78

On the bubble:
Xavier (19-10) ↑ 66 @ Georgetown (15-14) 63 ↓
Indiana (18-11) 66 ↓ @ Illinois (20-9) 67
Wichita State (22-7) 66 ↑ @ SMU (19-9) 62 ↓
Minnesota (13-15) 69 ↓ @ Wisconsin (19-10) 71


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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[steverino015]

Clemson 70
FloridaSt 69

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark Minnesota (13-15) 69 ↓ @ Wisconsin (19-10) 71

Minnesota with a quality loss on the road moving them from 49 to 46 in the NET...how ridiculous is that?!?!?!

[CE80]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Minnesota with a quality loss on the road moving them from 49 to 46 in the NET...how ridiculous is that?!?!?!

It looks like winning is not important enough in NET. Minnesota 5-12 in Q1 games. 2-9 in road games.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by CE80 It looks like winning is not important enough in NET. Minnesota 5-12 in Q1 games. 2-9 in road games.

And remember 5-12 in Q1 is better than 3-1.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Minnesota with a quality loss on the road moving them from 49 to 46 in the NET...how ridiculous is that?!?!?!

One thing to keep in mind, however, is that your NET is not used in YOUR selection, but rather as a sorting tool to determine how you fared against other teams. The committee looks at your record, using quadrants, against other teams NET rankings. It is true that you could have a good NET ranking because you played a very strong schedule, even if you lost most of those games, but that won’t get you selected. See NC State last year.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by TA111 One thing to keep in mind, however, is that your NET is not used in YOUR selection, but rather as a sorting tool to determine how you fared against other teams. The committee looks at your record, using quadrants, against other teams NET rankings. It is true that you could have a good NET ranking because you played a very strong schedule, even if you lost most of those games, but that won’t get you selected. See NC State last year.

This is where circular illogic comes into in play. So is Minnesota any good? Their NET is decent but their 5-12 in Q1 says maybe they are not so good but Wisc gets a Q1 win by beating them on the road by 2 pts yesterday.

[sheg]

Originally Posted by TA111 One thing to keep in mind, however, is that your NET is not used in YOUR selection, but rather as a sorting tool to determine how you fared against other teams. The committee looks at your record, using quadrants, against other teams NET rankings. It is true that you could have a good NET ranking because you played a very strong schedule, even if you lost most of those games, but that won’t get you selected. See NC State last year.

Exactly this.

One problem with the NET (and it was a problem with the RPI) is that people use it as a magnifying glass. It's meant to be used to get the big picture, the view from 30000 feet, to see the forest, not the trees.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by sheg Exactly this. One problem with the NET (and it was a problem with the RPI) is that people use it as a magnifying glass. It's meant to be used to get the big picture, the view from 30000 feet, to see the forest, not the trees.

Maybe so but it still shows a flaw in the NET system and as CE80 said there is circular logic to it.

And I thought they do use the NET as part of their selection process and that NC St. didn't make it because of strength of schedule.

[Medford]

So what I'm hearing is that the RPI needed to be more like NET, and NET needs to be more like RPI. Guess they need to combing the 2, give you and aggregate score and move on from there, wonder what kind of results that would yield?

[TA111]

Originally Posted by CE80 This is where circular illogic comes into in play. So is Minnesota any good? Their NET is decent but their 5-12 in Q1 says maybe they are not so good but Wisc gets a Q1 win by beating them on the road by 2 pts yesterday.

Yes. It’s certainly not a perfect system, but it’s better than it was under the RPI, IMO.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Maybe so but it still shows a flaw in the NET system and as CE80 said there is circular logic to it. And I thought they do use the NET as part of their selection process and that NC St. didn't make it because of strength of schedule.

Correct. But the point is that JUST having a very good NET ranking doesn’t automatically get you an at-large bid. There are many other factors in play, with non-con SOS being one of them.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by TA111 Correct. But the point is that JUST having a very good NET ranking doesn’t automatically get you an at-large bid. There are many other factors in play, with non-con SOS being one of them.

I totally agree but if you can pick up Q1/2 wins against teams that are under .500 that is a flaw in my opinion. So it may not get you a bid but it may get some other bubble team a bid some day. As I've been saying for a few years now winning has been devalued. Maybe they need to figure out a way that as your overall record gets closer to .500 and under that there is a sliding scale that lowers your NET exponentially so other teams don't get boosts off of your NET.

[Medford]

That would likely encourage P5 teams to just play more home only games and rack up 10-2 or better OOC records vs little to no competition.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Medford That would likely encourage P5 teams to just play more home only games and rack up 10-2 or better OOC records vs little to no competition.

Then they would risk being left out for a soft OOC SOS like NC St. was last year.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by TA111 Yes. It’s certainly not a perfect system, but it’s better than it was under the RPI, IMO.

Oh, I get it. RPI had its flaws but I am not so sure NET was any improvement. Both still placed too much value on losing to good teams.

[redbengal]

Duke trailing at home to NC State. If Duke can successfully lose this one they should be poised to move up from #6 in the NET. That's how it works, right?

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer And remember 5-12 in Q1 is better than 3-1.

Thus the problem with the NET as it’s currently computed. True, there should be some value placed on SOS. But you should have to actually BEAT a fair % of your Q1 opponents to qualify for the tournament that decides which is the best team in all of college basketball. Otherwise, all the NET means for bubble teams is, you may have played a ton of tough opponents, but you might have sucked while doing it (and “sucked” should not be rewarded).

Look at it this way: with the NET as it’s currently computed, if the Harlem Globetrotters were in the NCAA, then the Washington Generals could be in The Dance every year.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by redbengal Duke trailing at home to NC State. If Duke can successfully lose this one they should be poised to move up from #6 in the NET. That's how it works, right?

Really gaining some steam, there.
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[shwag33]

Honestly, if net was used solely as a tool to evaluate teams with similar records, the net rankings make sense.

[Chris R]

Originally Posted by TA111 Yes. It’s certainly not a perfect system, but it’s better than it was under the RPI, IMO.

How do you know the NET is even accurate in what its attempting to compute? Forget the current rankings for a moment. What if there are errors or omissions in the calculations and while its intent is to calculate A, its actually off and calculating B? Or for certain teams, calculating C? Whether deliberate or unintentional.

You or anyone else can provide no evidence that its working as designed. It might even be the case that its screwing up hundreds or thousands of intricate calculations but the resulting rankings are seemingly more sensible and fitting to our basketball eye by sheer mistake and happenstance -- which is even worse because it creates a false sense of security when the machine is broken. Perhaps broken in unequal and uneven-handed ways.

All we have from the mothership is "trust the Googles". Imagine championing a football team as #1 in the final polls by secret ballot. And by secret I mean you cant even see the individual votes....just the result. "Alabama received the necessary votes to be crowned national champion...congratulations to the Crimson Tide, thank you, and we will see you next season."

Thankfully we have playoffs now....but in the old days groups like the AP decided it.

Without transparency the NET is a complete poop show. It might be 10x better than the RPI. But we are not allowed to confirm or deny. A flawed system that's open to accounting and transparency is better than a more perfect system run as a clandestine underground overlord.

Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

[Go-UD-Go]

Originally Posted by Chris R ...Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that.

[Flyer Dave]

The Dookies beat a 18-12 team, so watch out. You will see them move up to No. 1 in the next ranking!

[cj]

Texas Tech about to go to OT at Baylor.
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[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
No A-10 games scheduled

Flyer's OOC opponents:
Mississippi Valley State (2-27) 61 @ Grambling (16-13) 81

Other scores
Ranked teams:
Texas Tech (18-12) 68 @ #2 Baylor (26-3) 71 (OT)
NC State (18-12) 69 @ #7 Duke (24-6) 88


On the bubble:
No bubble action tonight


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[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark A-10 scores: No A-10 games scheduled Flyer's OOC opponents: Mississippi Valley State (2-27) 61 @ Grambling (16-13) 81 Other scores Ranked teams: Texas Tech (18-12) 68 @ #2 Baylor (26-3) 71 (OT) NC State (18-12) 69 @ #7 Duke (24-6) 88 On the bubble: No bubble action tonight _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

Does that mean Duke overtakes Kansas for #1?

[Brad S.]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Does that mean Duke overtakes Kansas for #1?

Probably 1 through 4. ALL the #1 seeds!

[Radar]

If you see any of Coach K's presser, it's nice to witness the increasingly thin skin and rabbit ears he and Izzo have. Both calling out negative social media posts when the team struggles. As the saying goes: "I'm hell when I'm well..."

[cj]

Texas Tech choked. Their last three possessions in regulation all ended in turnovers. They did not get up one shot.

[Medford]

While both team attacked the boards hard, neither team impressed me all that much in the TT-Baylor game. I know Baylor was missing their glue guy, but I left myself wondering how the heck they beat Kansas. Offense was completely stagnant the whole night (or at least the 2nd half and OT that I saw), tons of hero ball and bad shots (some of which went in, many of which didn't).

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by Medford While both team attacked the boards hard, neither team impressed me all that much in the TT-Baylor game. I know Baylor was missing their glue guy, but I left myself wondering how the heck they beat Kansas. Offense was completely stagnant the whole night (or at least the 2nd half and OT that I saw), tons of hero ball and bad shots (some of which went in, many of which didn't).

This is so characteristic of many Power-5 conference teams. Great athletes who cannot put the ball in the basket and have no semblance of team offense. That is one of the many things that makes the Flyers both unique and effective.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by cj Texas Tech choked. Their last three possessions in regulation all ended in turnovers. They did not get up one shot.

both teams looked very beatable to me...

could of been the defenses,
could of been sloppiness....

all teams have up and down times..

we looked most definitely UP last game,
hope that continues..
Go Flyers!

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Go-UD-Go I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that.

Such a great scene.

+ YouTube Video

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by cj Texas Tech choked. Their last three possessions in regulation all ended in turnovers. They did not get up one shot.

I saw Tech lose to Baylor early this season by 52-57 in one of the ugliest games I've ever seen. Rinse and repeat.

They are athletic and can jump through the roof, but their basketball IQ is 0.

[shwag33]

VCU.....

[MD Flyer Pride]

Maryland loses to unranked Rutgers tonight. That helps as they were right behind us on the 2 seed line projections.


Beat Rhode Island!


Go Flyers!

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[frisco flyer]

#6 Kentucky is just about to lose at home to Tennessee.