UDPride Discussion Forums    
     

Go Back   UDPride Discussion Forums > UDPRIDE SPORTS FORUMS > Mens Basketball > 2010-2011 Game Threads

2010-2011 Game Threads Specific threads dedicated to each home and away game for UD Men's Basketball.

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #201  
Old 11-23-2010, 08:55 AM
UDDoug UDDoug is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 7,167
Thanks: 64
Thanked 3,317 Times in 1,969 Posts
UDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond reputeUDDoug has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by jcubspoe View Post
We built that 7 point lead with CW on the bench. This team has played it's best basketball in the Ole Miss game and in tonight's game with him on the bench...hate to say it, but it's true. He's beyond out of control at this point and playing crappy basketball....stunning for an "all american" in his senior season.
and Dayton loses to Akron by 15 without him.

Everyone stunk it up last night.
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #202  
Old 11-23-2010, 10:24 AM
shocka43's Avatar
shocka43 shocka43 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: It's hot and there is fire
Posts: 7,315
Thanks: 4,146
Thanked 7,036 Times in 2,993 Posts
shocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by jcubspoe View Post
We built that 7 point lead with CW on the bench. This team has played it's best basketball in the Ole Miss game and in tonight's game with him on the bench...hate to say it, but it's true. He's beyond out of control at this point and playing crappy basketball....stunning for an "all american" in his senior season.
This is true at this point in the season. I agree with not wanting to have to admit it, but unfortunately, the defensive intensity was much better without CW in the game. He stands up and hops around, looking lost when he is off the ball. Him being out of position off the ball, means that when his guy gets the ball, he is beat off the dribble because he is out of position. Simple defensive principles.

We have offsetting penalties with him. A good chance at a double-double almost every game versus not being a good defender. He was beat of the dribble a ton last night, and the team suffers as a whole, especially CW, because the team doesn't get on the break when we are handing them layups or sending them to the line.

Defense is rewarded normally in BG's system. However, the normal offensive production offsets the defensive lapses in BG's mind with CW. Last night he didn't cut CJ any breaks on a missed assignment that resulted in a foul. He parked him on the bench about 1:30 prior to his scheduled substitution.
Reply With Quote
  #203  
Old 11-23-2010, 11:30 AM
Sea Bass Sea Bass is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,009
Thanks: 618
Thanked 5,973 Times in 2,845 Posts
Sea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond reputeSea Bass has a reputation beyond repute
CW was since to the bench 2 minutes in to the second half for giving a layup after losing his man on a back cut while CJ and PW got extended minutes at the start of the 2nd half.
Reply With Quote
  #204  
Old 11-23-2010, 12:49 PM
shocka43's Avatar
shocka43 shocka43 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: It's hot and there is fire
Posts: 7,315
Thanks: 4,146
Thanked 7,036 Times in 2,993 Posts
shocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Sea Bass View Post
CW was since to the bench 2 minutes in to the second half for giving a layup after losing his man on a back cut while CJ and PW got extended minutes at the start of the 2nd half.
But I think he gets a a much longer leash than than the others due to his usual offensive production.

We had DS, CJ, JB, PW, and JP in the game and the defensive pressure was unreal on our end.
Reply With Quote
  #205  
Old 11-23-2010, 12:57 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,602
Thanks: 3,231
Thanked 3,796 Times in 2,300 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
No NBA...

If this guy hasn't learned to play defense by his senior year in college he never will. Judging from the comments of those who watch him play regularly, the guy is a liability on defense.

Surely, NBA scouts see that. Does anyone think that his offensive skills are so extraordinary so as to compensate for an inability to defend? Is he going to be a first team All American?....second team?....third team?.....doubtful....honorable mention, perhaps.

It's too bad. I surely hope that I'm wrong and that scouts "know" that defense is teachable at their level...and feel that his college coaches just didn't know what buttons to push. In a few months we'll know.
Reply With Quote
  #206  
Old 11-23-2010, 03:17 PM
shocka43's Avatar
shocka43 shocka43 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: It's hot and there is fire
Posts: 7,315
Thanks: 4,146
Thanked 7,036 Times in 2,993 Posts
shocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond reputeshocka43 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
If this guy hasn't learned to play defense by his senior year in college he never will. Judging from the comments of those who watch him play regularly, the guy is a liability on defense.

Surely, NBA scouts see that. Does anyone think that his offensive skills are so extraordinary so as to compensate for an inability to defend? Is he going to be a first team All American?....second team?....third team?.....doubtful....honorable mention, perhaps.

It's too bad. I surely hope that I'm wrong and that scouts "know" that defense is teachable at their level...and feel that his college coaches just didn't know what buttons to push. In a few months we'll know.
I have to agree. I have commented on his defensive ability (efforts) enough. To switch it up a bit....

Call me crazy, but at this point, I honestly believe that the player that may be getting NBA interest is Josh Benson. He may not be dropping double doubles, but with his limited experience so far in his college career, his skill set is something that shows potential.

His footwork is good, effort, hustle, lateral movement, straightline speed and agility for a big, shooting form, free throws, etc...I think that we are going to be pleasantly surprised with his game at the end of his career here.
Reply With Quote
  #207  
Old 11-23-2010, 04:00 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,602
Thanks: 3,231
Thanked 3,796 Times in 2,300 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Another guy...

...who couldn't defend. In `93-`94 Donyell Marshall was Big East player of the year and I believe first team All American. He was drafted #4 and was the first pick of the Timberwolves.

They got rid of him...their #1 pick,...half way through his first year. I recall the Timberwolves GM Kevin McHale saying that "the Big East player of the year can't play defense. We knew that when we picked him....but thought we could teach him....we were wrong".

Marshall was traded to the Warriors and subsequently played for about ten NBA teams...making a lot of money along the way. He was so good offensively that every team he played for apparently thought he was worth the chance.

Today he is a rich man.....but never met NBA expectations because of his defense. Everyone thought they could "teach" him.
Reply With Quote
  #208  
Old 11-23-2010, 06:51 PM
San Diego Flyer's Avatar
San Diego Flyer San Diego Flyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Dallas
Posts: 13,263
Thanks: 7,874
Thanked 8,887 Times in 3,994 Posts
San Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Curley-G View Post
You may mean our "Towson" game last year. Down 18 with 9 minutes to go and pulled it out. It was that big of a head-scratcher
Actually I meant the miracle win against Fordham in 08/09 by a 72-71 score where we were behind to a horrible opponent with only a few seconds left at the Arena.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

     
 
Copyright 1996-2012 UDPride.com. All Rights Reserved.