shot clock reset at end of game

mikeymo85 · #1 03-02-2017, 09:34 AM

here's what I saw: Kyle jumps to get the loose ball at the baseline, while in air he tries to throw it to charles cooke out near sideline, Charles bobbles ball and it goes out of bounds with 1 second remaining on shot clock for VCU. Refs say Kyle had possession and reset the shot clock giving VCU the potential to run the last 22 seconds off the clock and make a two to tie or a three to win. This was a huge call. why was it not reviewed? I understand you can't call time out while in the air with the ball then how is that possession when resetting the clock? Is this not a reviewable call? Maybe I didn't see it correctly, but I will be the first to admit I am rarely wrong.

jerseyflyer09 · #2 03-02-2017, 09:37 AM

Kyle absolutely had possession. And I think he gained possession while both feet were on the floor (albeit momentum taking him out of bounds). We had 3 TO's in our pocket and I think he had time to call one if he thought of it, especially when the ref was right under the basket too.

Unfortunate outcome after a great initial play by KD. Could have finished the job with a quick TO but I think they got it right, he stole it and took possession.

priceg75 · #3 03-02-2017, 09:38 AM

If he had possession enough to pass it, that's possession enough to reset the shot clock. It wasn't like a tip pass... he pulled it out of Mo's hands and tried to get it to Cooke.

Great, underrated play in the game... that was a tying layup for sure, or a foul at least.

UDGags · #4 03-02-2017, 09:39 AM

It was pretty obvious watching on TV he had possession. Even live (before they showed the replay) it looked like he had possession...hard to make that type of pass without possession.

Sea Bass · #5 03-02-2017, 09:43 AM

had two hands on the ball = possession

CT Flyer · #6 03-02-2017, 10:21 AM

I think it was the St. Joe's game where the refs said one of their players had possession and reset the shot clock for the Flyers when all he did was try to save the ball. So if that was possession (which I didn't think it was) then Kyle's is definitely possession.

mook · #7 03-02-2017, 11:23 AM

Kyle had possession and I don't think he could have called a TO because he was falling out of bounds. Now by rule they have to be established in bounds and staying inbounds to call TO right?

ruechalgrin · #8 03-02-2017, 11:28 AM

Think they need to change the rule as he did have possession under current rules, but wrong incentive for good defense. Same thing with shot clock at 1 or seconds and jump ball (team should be able to decline jump ball if on defense).

mikeymo85 · #9 03-02-2017, 11:42 AM

I will have to watch replay. at arena I did not see him with ball in bounds. I guess there is a chance I could be wrong

Piqua Flyer '66 · #10 03-02-2017, 11:53 AM

I think they got it right. But I have come to the conclusion that this game cannot be officiated correctly on a consistent bases.
Players are too quick, too fast. Reds do their best, but even the best are not consistent. So move on. Adjust and don't let it effect your performance as a player.

Smitty10 · #11 03-02-2017, 01:23 PM

Okay, have to ask this. Since the shotclock was reset(turned off actually), which means Kyle had possession, did he also get a steal and a turnover on that play? Seems that you have to have all 3 if you have any.

CE80 · #12 03-02-2017, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Smitty10

Okay, have to ask this. Since the shotclock was reset(turned off actually), which means Kyle had possession, did he also get a steal and a turnover on that play? Seems that you have to have all 3 if you have any.

The ESPN play by play record shows it as both a steal and turnover by Kyle.