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Hats off to Fordham. They were down 34-19 at the half, and got as close as 3 before finally losing. They played a really good second half against GW. We'll need to play well to beat them this year, instead of just waiting around for their usual 10 minutes per game that they decided not to play defense.
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This year Fordham is a very different team with essentially the same players as last year but with a different coach. Therein lies the major difference. They will not be a cake walk this year.
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I watched most of the Fordham - GW game. As much as they are improved, I came away more unimpressed with GW. Watching them vs Virginia, I was scared. Not so much this game. The Fordham - GW game reminded me of our game at Duq. Neither team looked particularly good but the team with better talent won. The lesser team still made it interesting. Welcome to conference play.
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Originally Posted by LI Flyer View Post
This year Fordham is a very different team with essentially the same players as last year but with a different coach. Therein lies the major difference. They will not be a cake walk this year.
Don't forget that Fordham lost Eric Pascal who transferred to Nova. He is a very good player
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#1 vs. #1 tonight as #1 in the AP Poll Kansas takes on Coaches Poll #1 Oklahoma.
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Don't forget that Fordham lost Eric Pascal who transferred to Nova. He is a very good player
Yeah, the Rams lose one of their best players and they are much improved over last year's squad. I've been the UD vs Fordham games over the last five years and believe when I say that Pecora was a terrible coach. He was a much poorer strategist ten BG.
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At #9, Butler was overrated, and it played out that way...they lost back to back games to Providence and Xavier.
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Kansas/Oklahoma going to ot. Oklahoma misses free throw that would have won it at end of regulation. Outstanding defense by both teams. Whatever the outcome, this has been a great game. A worthy #1 vs #1 game. My only criticism is that over the last 10 minutes the offenses for both teams were one dimensional - nothing but dribble drive.

and then a second ot.

and then a third ot.

Final - Kansas 109 Oklahoma 106 - triple overtime

as good as it gets in college hoops

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Kansas/Oklahoma going to ot. Oklahoma misses free throw that would have won it at end of regulation. Outstanding defense by both teams. Whatever the outcome, this has been a great game. A worthy #1 vs #1 game. My only criticism is that over the last 10 minutes the offenses for both teams were one dimensional - nothing but dribble drive.

and then a second ot.

and then a third ot.

Final - Kansas 109 Oklahoma 106 - triple overtime

as good as it gets in college hoops
Why not dribble drive? With the ways fouls are being called it has become the best strategy for success. If you have a point guard or any other player who has a quick first step, just drive and lean into the defender and go to the line.
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Why not dribble drive? With the ways fouls are being called it has become the best strategy for success. If you have a point guard or any other player who has a quick first step, just drive and lean into the defender and go to the line.
No argument at all and I agree regarding how games are being called this year. However, the defenses were so good - and the fouls were not being called - that the dribble drive was not particularly effective.
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I bailed on OU/KU after the 2nd OT, as I sprained my finger hitting the mute button on Dickie V so many times. Didn't have a dog in the fight but it was a great game which shows how good the OU team that UD lost to last year really is.
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I rarely watch games with the sound on anymore. Last night with whiney Doris Burks on the first game, and Doookie V on the second was a no brainer. Not listening to those self absorbed clowns is sort like having Rollo on ignore. They add nothing to the experience.
But I do have a question.... several times they just had to show Mushberger and Dookie V up close, and Dookie V had his arm around Mushberger. Something definitely wrong with that picture!
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Buddy Hield had 46 points, in a ridiculous performance... and a loss.

Virginia goes down to Va. Tech by 2.

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Kansas/Oklahoma going to ot. Oklahoma misses free throw that would have won it at end of regulation. Outstanding defense by both teams. Whatever the outcome, this has been a great game. A worthy #1 vs #1 game. My only criticism is that over the last 10 minutes the offenses for both teams were one dimensional - nothing but dribble drive.

and then a second ot.

and then a third ot.

Final - Kansas 109 Oklahoma 106 - triple overtime

as good as it gets in college hoops
Agree completely, I was watching that game thinking "Archie Miller would have won this game in regulation, 1OT, 2OT, and 3OT." They just walked down the court and set a pick for the ball handler while the other 3 guys watched. Pick didn't work well? Reset and set the same pick with the same 2 guys. Repeat sometimes 3 or 4 times.

You can say the defense was good, but, that's like lining up in the wildcat with 2 tight ends and the jumbo package in the backfield and saying, "That's good defense, held them to 2 yards." The offenses were just running into the teeth of the defense a lot of the time.

Great atmosphere, exciting game with some great plays, but frankly not very good basketball a lot of the time.
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Great atmosphere, exciting game with some great plays, but frankly not very good basketball a lot of the time.
When #1 plays #2, and it goes 3 OTs with both team scoring over 100 pts...that's GREAT basketball.

Isn't it?
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When #1 plays #2, and it goes 3 OTs with both team scoring over 100 pts...that's GREAT basketball.

Isn't it?
Yes.

So Oklahoma loses to Kansas in 3 OTs but it is on the Kansas court. Who deserves #1. I know Kansas will get it (assuming both win the rest of their games this week) but I think a case can be made for Oklahoma being #1.
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I think a case can be made for Oklahoma being #1.
The rematch (Feb 13th) is going to be insane....but the Big12 is so strong there's a pretty good chance both teams will have 2-3 more losses by the time it happens.
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Great atmosphere, exciting game with some great plays, but frankly not very good basketball a lot of the time.
I wish Dayton would play as poorly as those two teams last night!
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Yes.

So Oklahoma loses to Kansas in 3 OTs but it is on the Kansas court. Who deserves #1. I know Kansas will get it (assuming both win the rest of their games this week) but I think a case can be made for Oklahoma being #1.
I just hope Oklahoma stays at #2, because they deserve it. How many times do you see this kind of game and the loser drops a few spots?
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Remember folks that Dayton played right with Oklahoma just last March. We lost to Oklahoma in the NCAA tournament.

Let's compare the two teams a few months later. Dayton only lost one player from that team, Sibert. Oklahoma lost TaShawn Thomas, D.J. Booker and Frank Booker (transferred out). Dayton is nearly the same team. Oklahoma is nearly the same team. By extraction, we can same that this year's Flyers should be able to play with the number 1 team in the country? Has Oklahoma changed so much? I see this guy, Lattin is playing really well. Is he the reason that Oklahoma has improved so much? Hasn't Dayton also improved from last year with the addition of Charles Cooke and all these freshman adding depth plus Steve McElvene adding that needed rim protector (hopefully, he can learn to reduce fouling by March 2016)? Our guys are one year older and one year wiser.
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When #1 plays #2, and it goes 3 OTs with both team scoring over 100 pts...that's GREAT basketball.

Isn't it?
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I wish Dayton would play as poorly as those two teams last night!
You think it's impossible for a game to be exciting but poorly played at times / in some aspects of the game? Really?? Charles Barkley once scored 56 points in a game and dribbled the ball approximately 2,247 times within 5 feet of the basket. Riveting.

For example:
-Oklahoma would have won in regulation if a guy could hit a FT but he is a terrible shooter and he choked. GREAT BASKETBALL.
-In the first OT, Oklahoma was up 5 with 2:00 left but proceeded to go scoreless (and not get a good shot) for the final 3 possessions as well as playing some bad defense (culminating in a wide open 3 that was missed after Self told the guy in the huddle NOT to shoot a 3). Well executed.
-In the 3rd OT, Oklahoma turned the ball over on 3 straight possessions after they had the lead by 2. That's great basketball right there.

Exciting <> great basketball all the time. There were certainly ups and downs over the game but overall I think the last 5 minutes + OT was not well played team offense. Defense was good, offense was Barkley-esque.
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if you expect college kids, much less professionals to execute the game plan with 100% perfection thru the course of a full game, you are going to be waiting a heck of a long time to find a "well played" game. There will be ups and downs in every game, there will be moments of great play, and mental lapses. There are two teams out there, attempting to force their will on both ends of the court on the other team.

You get a wide open 3, most guys should take it, at least guards with a few exceptions. I checked out when it went to OT, couldn't keep my eyes open any longer, so I didn't see it, but I'll presume Self's message was to not force a three, if the guy was a respectable shooter, I doubt he had much issue with a wide open three in the flow of the offense, at least he shouldn't.

Okie didn't score for 3 minutes? I'll presume Kansas had a hand in that.

Like I said, I didn't see the end, but during the first 40 minutes, I saw a lot of quick transition, guys hustling on defense, good ball movement, etc... It was a lot of fun to watch.
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You think it's impossible for a game to be exciting but poorly played at times / in some aspects of the game? Really??
Hell, yeah brother Gazoo!

Here's why:

Kansas player makes a pass that is stolen by OU for a break away layup.

KU fan: STUPID PASS
OU fan: Great D!

OU player fires up a contested 3 and airballs it.

KU fan: Great D!!
OU fan: STUPID SHOT!!

When ranked defenses face off against ranked offenses, I expect both 'stupid' and 'great' plays for 40 min + 3OTs. And depending on whose side you're on, the same play is - always - both.

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if you expect college kids, much less professionals to execute the game plan with 100% perfection thru the course of a full game, you are going to be waiting a heck of a long time to find a "well played" game. There will be ups and downs in every game, there will be moments of great play, and mental lapses. There are two teams out there, attempting to force their will on both ends of the court on the other team.

You get a wide open 3, most guys should take it, at least guards with a few exceptions. I checked out when it went to OT, couldn't keep my eyes open any longer, so I didn't see it, but I'll presume Self's message was to not force a three, if the guy was a respectable shooter, I doubt he had much issue with a wide open three in the flow of the offense, at least he shouldn't.

Okie didn't score for 3 minutes? I'll presume Kansas had a hand in that.

Like I said, I didn't see the end, but during the first 40 minutes, I saw a lot of quick transition, guys hustling on defense, good ball movement, etc... It was a lot of fun to watch.
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Hell, yeah brother Gazoo!

Here's why:

Kansas player makes a pass that is stolen by OU for a break away layup.

KU fan: STUPID PASS
OU fan: Great D!

OU player fires up a contested 3 and airballs it.

KU fan: Great D!!
OU fan: STUPID SHOT!!

When ranked defenses face off against ranked offenses, I expect both 'stupid' and 'great' plays for 40 min + 3OTs. And depending on whose side you're on, the same play is - always - both.

King Rollo...OUT!
There you have it. There is no such thing as a poorly played game, as proven by rollo and Medford. It can't happen folks.

If a game is close and the teams are ranked, it's just been proven impossible. You might THINK you're watching bad basketball, but you're not. It has never happened, and it never will.
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Those guys, many of whom had played 50+ minutes against the number one team in the nation, had some less-than-ideal plays at crucial points in the last 20 minutes of play. It was still an excellent, and exciting, game.

The number of great possessions, both offensively and defensively, by both teams, in that game dwarfs the number of great possessions in the Dayton-Duquesne game, for example.

That was one of the best regular season games ever played. I hope Oklahoma gets the rematch then they face off for the XII title.
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When #1 plays #2, and it goes 3 OTs with both team scoring over 100 pts...that's GREAT basketball.

Isn't it?
Best game I've seen in ages. They are both worthy though I would give Oklahoma the edge on a neutral court. I think they may cut them down this year.
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Why not dribble drive? With the ways fouls are being called it has become the best strategy for success. If you have a point guard or any other player who has a quick first step, just drive and lean into the defender and go to the line.
Exactly. That is what teams are doing to us.
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There you have it. There is no such thing as a poorly played game, as proven by rollo and Medford. It can't happen folks.

If a game is close and the teams are ranked, it's just been proven impossible. You might THINK you're watching bad basketball, but you're not. It has never happened, and it never will.
Don't think that is what either of us said, but hey, whatever works for you. You may be the only person I've seen today who has said that game was anything less than stellar; perhaps its time to redefine your definition of "good basketball" to something a shade less than absolute perfection from both teams 100% of the time.
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Well, the referees swallowed their whistles. They weren't calling: a) moving screens, b) hand checking, c) undercutting on dunks causing dangerous plays ( I saw at least four dangerous falls where people could get hurt), d) hanging and swinging on the rim and e) coach Self screaming at the referee only got a technical instead of the deserved ejection.
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Well, the referees swallowed their whistles. They weren't calling: a) moving screens, b) hand checking, c) undercutting on dunks causing dangerous plays ( I saw at least four dangerous falls where people could get hurt), d) hanging and swinging on the rim and e) coach Self screaming at the referee only got a technical instead of the deserved ejection.
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I was amazed that the ref made the call he did at the end of regulation. I thought the shooter was fouled on the missed shot but he called it on the offensive player for going over the back in the rebound but then both free throws were missed. If he had hit one of those, all anybody would be talking about would be that last play and whether a should have or should not have been called and which foul.
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You may be the only person I've seen today who has said that game was anything less than stellar; perhaps its time to redefine your definition of "good basketball" to something a shade less than absolute perfection from both teams 100% of the time.
And, I may not.

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My only criticism is that over the last 10 minutes the offenses for both teams were one dimensional - nothing but dribble drive.

and then a second ot.

and then a third ot.
Maybe you could reconsider the idea that it's impossible for 2 great teams playing on a big stage in a fantastically exciting game MIGHT do something really poorly for an extended period of time in that game.

It's a fact, there was simply very little offensive movement or sharing the ball. It was just 1 on 1 with maybe 1 pass. It's possible that each coach (particularly Oklahoma) thought it was the best option, but, with such great defense being played and the refs swallowing the whistles on the hand checks it seems counter-intuitive.

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I already admitted that I didn't see any of the OT, so all my reference is for the first 40 minutes.

I do accept, actually expect that during a fantastically exciting game and a great game (how can an exciting game not be great????) that there will be moments where play is less than 100% ideal. Its the nature of the sport, both teams are trying to force their will on the other. At some point during the 40 minutes of grueling regular time, plus the 3 OT, I expect the physical fatigue is going to lead to mental fatigue for both the players and the coach.

Perhaps I'm just reading you wrong, but it sure seems like you are picking nits. When two of the top teams in the country go toe to toe for 55 minutes, exchanging leads, making shots, hitting the boards, playing tough, well I'm not sure how much more you can ask for.
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I already admitted that I didn't see any of the OT, so all my reference is for the first 40 minutes.

I do accept, actually expect that during a fantastically exciting game and a great game (how can an exciting game not be great????) that there will be moments where play is less than 100% ideal. Its the nature of the sport, both teams are trying to force their will on the other. At some point during the 40 minutes of grueling regular time, plus the 3 OT, I expect the physical fatigue is going to lead to mental fatigue for both the players and the coach.

Perhaps I'm just reading you wrong, but it sure seems like you are picking nits. When two of the top teams in the country go toe to toe for 55 minutes, exchanging leads, making shots, hitting the boards, playing tough, well I'm not sure how much more you can ask for.
Well we'll just have to disagree then. Because while I expect teams to punch and counter punch, and for play to ebb and flow, there was a consistent theme: go 1 on 1. If that's great / skilled basketball to you, you got what you wanted. Personally, I like AM's style of basketball where the ball gets shared and moves around the court.

Please, tell me how the ball was flowing so freely for the entire game when Oklahoma had 21 assists in 55 minutes of play to score 106 points.

Please, tell me how the ball was flowing so freely for the entire game when Kansas had 17 assists in 55 minutes of play to score 109 points. Seriously?? 17 assists on 109 points?! WOW. It was actually worse than I thought!

Dayton had a total stinker against Duquesne and yet we had 16 assists in 40 minutes to score 66 points (and had almost the same number of FT's and FTA as Kansas / Oklahoma)!!

17 assists for 109 points is not beautiful basketball, and it's not a single 5 minute lull by 1 team. It's uninteresting offensive execution. Unless you like that sort of thing. I do not.
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I was amazed that the ref made the call he did at the end of regulation. I thought the shooter was fouled on the missed shot but he called it on the offensive player for going over the back in the rebound but then both free throws were missed. If he had hit one of those, all anybody would be talking about would be that last play and whether a should have or should not have been called and which foul.
The foul on the Kansas shooter was a slight smack to the head after the shot. Should have been a foul, but not a big deal. The over the back putting Lattin on the line was a no doubter, you have to call. He shot a 1+1 and missed the first on a complete brick.
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The foul on the Kansas shooter was a slight smack to the head after the shot. Should have been a foul, but not a big deal. The over the back putting Lattin on the line was a no doubter, you have to call. He shot a 1+1 and missed the first on a complete brick.
That's what I always tell the cops when they show up at my house after a fight with the wife, "it was just a slight smack to the head."

Seriously, I didn't think the initial foul was that bad either, I was just surprised the ref didn't swallow his whistle on the whole play and let them settle it in overtime.
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I don't know if anybody may have made a connection of Dayton to Oklahoma.

That is, we were in good position to win against them in last year's NCAA, and the rosters are not so much different that it is inconceivable we progress and then sharpen up to compete well with them again.
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okla rated where they are......because a Power 5 school
We had them down 10 with 10 to play in Columbus in March.
Two pretty comparable teams
What have they done that is so much better than what UD has done this season?
Nothing....except they are in a Power 5 Conf.
Power 5 conf call the shots.
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Not a game of note, but from a basketball purist perspective I'm confused by Ed Cooley's game management at the end of the Marquette @ Providence game tonight. Down by 1 with 31 seconds to go and the ball in Kris Dunn's hands, Providence runs the clock down and Dunn's contested shot with 1 second remaining is blocked. Seems obvious that you'd do this in a tie game, but down by one you have to score immediately and then leave it up to your defense, right? Or at least shoot with enough time for a rebound and putback?
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Arkansas beats Vandy in overtime.

At the end of regulation and with Vandy out of timeouts, Arkansas hit a 3 pointer to go up by 2 with 2.2 seconds left in regulation. Arkansas calls a time out, which I think was the dumbest coaching move ever considering the lack of time left in the game. This allowed Vandy to draw up one final play, which led to an 80 foot pass that Vandy caught, took one dribble and goes in for a slam dunk at the buzzer to send the game to overtime. Wish Arkansas would have lost, to help Vandy stay in top 50 and give us another top 50 RPI win and more importantly to pay for terrible coaching move!
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okla rated where they are......because a Power 5 school
We had them down 10 with 10 to play in Columbus in March.
Two pretty comparable teams
What have they done that is so much better than what UD has done this season?
Nothing....except they are in a Power 5 Conf.
Power 5 conf call the shots.
Oklahoma has beaten at the time #9 Villanova and #11 Iowa State and took #1 Kansas to 3 OT on their home court. I would say they done more than UD at this point of the season. Since Vanderbilt is no longer in the top 25 that doesn't help us much. After watching last night, Oklahoma is not a team I would want to play in the NCAA Tournament. We basically played them in a home game atmosphere in Columbus last year.
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A-10 results:
Richmond (8-6) 65 @ RI (10-5) 77
VCU (10-5) 85 @ St Joe's (11-3) 82

OOC opponents:
Furman (7-8) 66 @ NC-Greensboro (5-10) 67
Mercer (11-4) 62 @ Chattanooga (13-2) 74
Nebraska (8-8) 66 @ #19 Iowa (12-3) 77
Vanderbilt (8-6) 85 @ Arkansas (7-7) 90 (OT)

Others receiving votes:
Marquette (11-4) 65 @ #8 Providence (14-2) 64
#9 Kentucky (11-3) 67 @ LSU (9-5) 85
#18 Butler (12-3) 77 @ DePaul (6-9) 72
#22 S Carolina (14-0) 81 @ Auburn (7-6) 69
Temple (7-6) 55 @ #23 UConn (10-4) 53
Oklahoma St (9-5) 62 @ Baylor (11-3) 79
Wisconsin (9-7) 58 @ Indiana (13-3) 59
Akron (12-2) 75 @ Buffalo (7-7) 71
Tulane (7-9) 45 @ Houston (13-2) 63

Others:
Boise St (11-4) 76 @ Utah St (9-5) 61
Georgetown (9-6) 66 @ Creighton (11-5) 79
Kansas St (10-4) 57 @ Texas (9-5) 60
Kent St (10-4) 87 @ W Michigan (6-8) 84 (OT)
Clemson (9-6) 74 @ Syracuse (10-6) 73 (OT)

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okla rated where they are......because a Power 5 school
We had them down 10 with 10 to play in Columbus in March.
Two pretty comparable teams
What have they done that is so much better than what UD has done this season?
Nothing....except they are in a Power 5 Conf.
Power 5 conf call the shots.
I can't even fathom how much of a homer you have to be to really believe what you said. Nothing to do with being a power 5 school. All of the numbers and even the "eye test" agrees that Oklahoma is a top 3 team right now. Also, since when are awards won for beating a team in 30 minutes and not 40?
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We need Vandy to go on a tear -- UD needs them to be top 50.
Vandy has become the biggest disappointment in D1 this year.
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Not a game of note, but from a basketball purist perspective I'm confused by Ed Cooley's game management at the end of the Marquette @ Providence game tonight. Down by 1 with 31 seconds to go and the ball in Kris Dunn's hands, Providence runs the clock down and Dunn's contested shot with 1 second remaining is blocked. Seems obvious that you'd do this in a tie game, but down by one you have to score immediately and then leave it up to your defense, right? Or at least shoot with enough time for a rebound and putback?
Agree!
Then Cooley did what Cooley does...instead leading his team in post-game handshake, he goes after the refs, crying "foul." Even both announcers (and replay) confirmed that a foul was nowhere to be found.

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Agree!
Then Cooley did what Cooley does...instead leading his team in post-game handshake, he goes after the refs, crying "foul". Even both announcers (and replay) confirmed that a foul was nowhere to be found.
I remember Providence losing a big game last year when they just tried to go with Dunn 1 v 1.
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Worst part of Vandy / Arkansas was Vanderbilt made an amazing play to tie the game, a full court pass with 2.2 seconds left that Damien Jones caught in the left corner, then drove the baseline and dunked, literally releasing the ball through the basket as 00.1 turned to 00.0.

And they just totally blew it in OT.
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I remember Providence losing a big game last year when they just tried to go with Dunn 1 v 1.
Nah, they lost that game because it was a HOME game for the Flyers
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Never said awards to be given for losing to OKLA in Columbus.....just trying to make a point that Big 5 schools get the nod in the media......always start higher in pre-season rankings while the rest of us fight our way into the Top 25. When they lose in their league it is because they lost to a Big 5 league opponent, i.e. see UK loss to LSU last nite. When you lose in the A-10 its considered a bad loss. And I'm really tired of the media blasting UD for their two home games in Columbus last March......if tOSU, ND, IU play in Indy, Chicago, Cincy, etc in NCAA it's never considered a home court advantage......it's neutral court then. Once again I'll repeat.......down the road the Big 5/BCS schools will play for the NCAA hoops nat'l championship and the rest of us will be in the second tier......"NIT" tourney. Football controls college sports.
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...Two pretty comparable teams...

What have they (Oklahoma) done that is so much better than what UD has done this season?
What is pretty comparable is that they both wear uniforms. Oklahoma would tear Dayton a new ***hole right now.
We need to get a LOT better to beat them. (I did finish with the 'wink' thingy) {AM has been pretty amazing coaching up, so there is hope Piqua Flyer '66}
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Never said awards to be given for losing to OKLA in Columbus.....just trying to make a point that Big 5 schools get the nod in the media......always start higher in pre-season rankings while the rest of us fight our way into the Top 25. When they lose in their league it is because they lost to a Big 5 league opponent, i.e. see UK loss to LSU last nite. When you lose in the A-10 its considered a bad loss. And I'm really tired of the media blasting UD for their two home games in Columbus last March......if tOSU, ND, IU play in Indy, Chicago, Cincy, etc in NCAA it's never considered a home court advantage......it's neutral court then. Once again I'll repeat.......down the road the Big 5/BCS schools will play for the NCAA hoops nat'l championship and the rest of us will be in the second tier......"NIT" tourney. Football controls college sports.
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Maybe I'm wrong but I felt you were doing a UD/Oklahoma comparison. Not to the P5 in general. I agree that P5 teams get the benefit of the doubt in areas like bubble talk (see UCLA/Texas last year). But UD/Oklahoma aren't on the same planet this year. If you were trying to make a point that the media helps the P5 out, I agree. Also, I'm 100% in agreement regarding the "home game in Columbus" media narrative. I find the media to be insufferable regarding that. As we all know, shot lines are amongst the most important aspects to any arena. Both teams were new to the shot lines in the Nationwide center. Not being able to deal with the crowd is a result of poor coaching (I'm looking at you, Ed Cooley).
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Nah, they lost that game because it was a HOME game for the Flyers
And he didn't have time to prepare because he didn't know who his opponent would be.
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YUP, 3 point loss to SLU for GW. Not great for the A10.
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YUP, 3 point loss to SLU for GW. Not great for the A10.
Luckily the non-con will carry the day. handle our business and we can be anywhere between a 3-7 seed
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YUP, 3 point loss to SLU for GW. Not great for the A10.
Not great for the A10 but not necessarily bad for UD since SLU is on the schedule 2X. GW's w/l % will not drop as much by 1 less win than the increase in SLU's w/l %.

One can argue that GW may end up slightly on the other side of 50 RPI but I don't think this loss will do it over entire season--they are either going to be strong in the A10 or will fade.
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A-10 results:
UMass (8-6) 63 @ #25 Dayton (12-2) 93
Duquesne (10-5) 66 @ Davidson (9-4) 77
La Salle (4-8) 61 @ Fordham (10-3) 66
GW ( 12-3) 62 @ St Louis (6-8) 65
St Bonaventure (10-3) 77 @ George Mason (6-9) 58

OOC opponents:
Miami (OH) (6-8) 62 @ Bowling Green (10-4) 73
North Florida (12-6) 97 @ Stetson (6-10) 79
#10 Xavier (14-1) 74 @ St John's (7-9) 66

Teams receiving votes:
Rutgers (6-10) 63 @ #3 Maryland (14-1) 88
Seton Hall (12-3) 63 @ #11 Villanova (13-2) 72
Texas Tech (11-2) 69 @ #13 Iowa St (12-2) 76
#14 Duke (13-2) 91 @ Wake Forest (9-5) 75
#21 Texas A&M (12-2) 61 @ Miss St (7-6) 60
Georgia Tech (10-5) 84 @ #24 Pitt (13-1) 89
Cal (12-4) 65 @ Oregon (12-3) 68
Evansville (13-3) 64 @ Wichita St (9-5) 67
Stanford (9-5) 78 @ Oregon St (10-3) 72

Others
S Illinois (14-2) 65 @ Bradley (2-12) 44
S Dakota (9-8) 65 @ IPFW (13-4) 85
Ohio St (11-5) 65 @ Northwestern (13-3) 65
Ohio (9-4) 69 @ N Illinois (12-2) 80
Cal Poly (6-8) 73 @ Hawaii (12-2) 86
Tenn St (11-4) 66 @ E Illinois (4-11) 61
Nevada (9-6) 63 @ Fresno St (11-5) 85
Navy (11-5) 83 @ Boston U (7-9) 67

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Originally Posted by Glen Clark View Post
A-10 results:
UMass (8-6) 63 @ #25 Dayton (12-2) 93
Duquesne (10-5) 66 @ Davidson (9-4) 77
La Salle (4-8) 61 @ Fordham (10-3) 66
GW ( 12-3) 62 @ St Louis (6-8) 65
St Bonaventure (10-3) 77 @ George Mason (6-9) 58

OOC opponents:
Miami (OH) (6-8) 62 @ Bowling Green (10-4) 73
North Florida (12-6) 97 @ Stetson (6-10) 79
#10 Xavier (14-1) 74 @ St John's (7-9) 66

Teams receiving votes:
Rutgers (6-10) 63 @ #3 Maryland (14-1) 88
Seton Hall (12-3) 63 @ #11 Villanova (13-2) 72
Texas Tech (11-2) 69 @ #13 Iowa St (12-2) 76
#14 Duke (13-2) 91 @ Wake Forest (9-5) 75
#21 Texas A&M (12-2) 61 @ Miss St (7-6) 60
Georgia Tech (10-5) 84 @ #24 Pitt (13-1) 89
Cal (12-4) 65 @ Oregon (12-3) 68
Evansville (13-3) 64 @ Wichita St (9-5) 67
Stanford (9-5) 78 @ Oregon St (10-3) 72

Others
S Illinois (14-2) 65 @ Bradley (2-12) 44
S Dakota (9-8) 65 @ IPFW (13-4) 85
Ohio St (11-5) 65 @ Northwestern (13-3) 65
Ohio (9-4) 69 @ N Illinois (12-2) 80
Cal Poly (6-8) 73 @ Hawaii (12-2) 86
Tenn St (11-4) 66 @ E Illinois (4-11) 61
Nevada (9-6) 63 @ Fresno St (11-5) 85
Navy (11-5) 83 @ Boston U (7-9) 67

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YUP, 3 point loss to SLU for GW. Not great for the A10.
Maybe not great for them, but great for us. Rather than worrying about the quality of our wins, I'm worried about winning the regular season league this year. Something UD has never done. I think this is the year to do it, and GW losing makes it that much more likely that we will win it.
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The day after tomorrow, Baylor plays Iowa St. and Texas Tech plays Kansas. Wins by either would probably jump them into top 25. U Conn loss to Temple probably drops them out. I think if we win next, we are fairly safe to save our 25 spot (or move up one or two).

A Cinci win tonight might put SMU out.

There may be a couple other games potentially moving someone in or out of rankings.
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Another note, watched a bit of the Illinois-Providence game and Illinois doesn't impress me. With a new AD coming on board at some point, they may be looking for a new coach. They only lost by a point on the road at Providence, but man they had multiple opportunities and little to no ball movement. A bunch of "me" basketball, very little team basketball, kind of surprises me coming from a Matta disciple. Groce has been there 3 or 4 years now, and Illinois has yet to take that leap to anything close to what Bill Self had going on there not so long ago.
Yes, I'm starting to think the same thing. Illinois went to the NIT the last two years, and they are projected to finish at #152 this year, so Groce might be on the hot seat.

Does anybody think Archie would seriously consider the Illinois job if Groce is fired?

I don't see any other jobs right now that look to be open and would be a threat, other than Wisconsin.

And I suppose Oklahoma State might come open...Travis Ford has made it past the round of 64 once in 7 years...and this year OSU is projected to finish in the 150's.

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Yes, I'm starting to think the same thing. Illinois went to the NIT the last two years, and they are projected to finish at #152 this year, so Groce might be on the hot seat.

Does anybody think Archie would seriously consider the Illinois job if Groce is fired?

I don't see any other jobs right now that look to be open and would be a threat, other than Wisconsin.
I think it has been said that the assistant coach will get the Wisconsin job. No way Archie goes to Wisconsin or Illinois.
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I think it has been said that the assistant coach will get the Wisconsin job. No way Archie goes to Wisconsin or Illinois.
I really hate to keep this talk going but can't help myself. Until this year's junior class graduates, there are maybe 1, 2, of 3 jobs that Archie would take after this season. Duke, UNC, tOSU? After Scoochie, et al graduate, it may open up a bit. If 3, 4, 5... years down the road he really thinks he has hit a plateau, then maybe those 2nd tier jobs like an Illinois would be considered.
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I really hate to keep this talk going but can't help myself.
I can't help myself, Archie leaving is always in the back of my mind.

It is easier to look at just top 25 scores on these sports websites, and it is fun to root against everybody else that is ranked, lol.

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Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
I really hate to keep this talk going but can't help myself. Until this year's junior class graduates, there are maybe 1, 2, of 3 jobs that Archie would take after this season. Duke, UNC, tOSU? After Scoochie, et al graduate, it may open up a bit. If 3, 4, 5... years down the road he really thinks he has hit a plateau, then maybe those 2nd tier jobs like an Illinois would be considered.
Archie will leave only UD for a school that he thinks gives him the opportunity to compete for a national title every year (like Sean did when he left X for Arizona). I doubt he feels Illinois or Wisconsin are those types of schools, but Indiana and Louisville may open up in the next year or two and those 2 schools fall into that category.
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Yes, I'm starting to think the same thing. Illinois went to the NIT the last two years, and they are projected to finish at #152 this year, so Groce might be on the hot seat.

Does anybody think Archie would seriously consider the Illinois job if Groce is fired?

I don't see any other jobs right now that look to be open and would be a threat, other than Wisconsin.

And I suppose Oklahoma State might come open...Travis Ford has made it past the round of 64 once in 7 years...and this year OSU is projected to finish in the 150's.
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Archie will leave only UD for a school that he thinks gives him the opportunity to compete for a national title every year (like Sean did when he left X for Arizona). I doubt he feels Illinois or Wisconsin are those types of schools, but Indiana and Louisville may open up in the next year or two and those 2 schools fall into that category.
Indiana or course, but why Louisville?
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Thursday Jan 7

A-10: no games scheduled

OOC opponents:
SEMO (2-13) 69 @ Morehead St (7-7) 96
Alabama (9-4) 66 @ Ole Miss (11-3) 74
William & Mary (10-4) 72 @ Drexel (2-12) 63

Teams receiving votes (only one upset):
Illinois (8-8) 54 @ #5 Michigan St (15-1) 79
#7 Arizona (13-2) 84 @ UCLA (10-6) 87
Cincinnati (11-5) 57 @ #15 SMU (14-0) 59
#16 Louisville (13-2) 77 @ NC State (10-5) 72
Michigan (12-4) 70 @ #20 Purdue (14-2) 87
St Mary's (14-1) 73 @ Loyola Marymount (7-8) 48
Arizona St (10-5) 65 @ USC (13-3) 75

Other games of note:
Texas Rio Grand Valley (4-12) 63 @ Grand Canyon (14-2) 83
Louisiana-Lafayette (5-7) 57 @ Arkansas-Little Rock (13-1) 77
Old Dominion (9-6) 56 @ Louisiana Tech (12-3) 53
Texas Arlington (12-2) 71 @ Appalachian St (2-12) 67
Texas San Antonio (3-13) 82 @ UAB (12-3) 104
UC Davis (5-9) 55 @ UC Irvine (12-5) 76
Wisconsin- Milwaukee (11-5) 81 @ Youngstown St (6-10) 65
Tennessee Tech (11-5) 71 @ Murray St (7-8) 65
Santa Clara (5-12) 61 @ BYU (11-5) 97
Notre Dame (10-4) 82 @ Boston College (7-8) 54
Green Bay (10-5) 87 @ Cleveland St (5-11) 67

The Dakotas take a beating:
N Dakota (6-8) 62 @ Weber St (10-5) 74
S Dakota St (13-4) 67 @ IUPUI (6-12) 74
Nebraska-Omaha (11-6) 91 @ N Dakota St (11-5) 82

In the Colonial, 7 teams have a 10-5 or better mark:
Hofstra (10-5) 61 @ Charleston (10-4) 72
William & Mary (10-4) 72 @ Drexel (2-12) 63
Delaware (5-9) 56 @ Northeastern (11-5) 88
Elon (11-5) 79 @ James Madison (11-5) 73
NC-Wilmington (9-5) 60 @ Towson (11-5) 76

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That would be huge COUP for Vandy!
Well, if Vandy's got the COUP uSC's got the cocks. Figure I'll end that sentence there...
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OK, so life has been busy, been a while since I posted anything on this thread, thanks to all that have kept us abreast of happenings about basketball.

Friday 1/8/16:

Utah (picking up 3 points in the AP) @ Colorado (picking up 4)

Saturday 1/9/16:

Bonnies @ UMass
VTech @ #14 Duke
Chattanooga @ Furman
Okie St @ #17 WVU
#21 aTm @ Tennessee
Vandy @ #22 South Carolina (could do UD a double favor, boost their RPI profile, knock USC down a peg)
Miss St @ Arkansas
Toledo @ Miami
#24 Pitt @ Notre Dame
North Eastern @ William & Mary
#9 Kentucky @ Bama
Memphis @ #23 UConn
Mason @ Davidson
Duquesne @ GW

Sunday 1/10/16:

Cincy (picking up points, but suffered a loss last night @ SMU) @ South Florida, if someone besides SMU doesn't pick it up, this may well be a 1 bid league this season.
Rhody @ Saint Joes
Richmond @ Fordham
VCU @ Saint Louis (Can they pick up another home upset?)
#20 Purdue @ Illinois
#11 Nova @ #18 Butler
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Top 25 teams that lost this week since Monday when the most recent rankings came out: #2 Oklahoma, #4 Virginia, #8 Providence, #9 Kentucky, and #23 UConn.

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Slim pickin's

A-10: no games scheduled

OOC opponents: likewise

Teams receiving votes, with their ranking:
Utah (12-4) 56 @ Colorado (12-4) 54 - Colorado AP 33, USA 36; Utah AP 37, USA 34
W Michigan (6-9) 53 @ Akron (13-2) 62 - Akron AP 41

Under the radar:
Valparaiso (12-3) 84 @ Oakland (9-7) 67

Full slate Saturday . . .

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Bonnies beating UMass 56-43 with 14 minutes to go. Neither team looks good. Kellog just got T'd up.
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Vandy loses at SC. That win looking worse every day .... unfortunately
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Vandy loses at SC. That win looking worse every day .... unfortunately
I have a bad feeling we'll be saying the same thing about that LaSalle loss - as bad as it is now, will be looking worse and worse as the season goes on

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Sux

A -10 results:

#25 Dayton (12-3) 57 @ La Salle (5-8) 61
St Bonaventure (11-3) 88 @ UMass (8-7) 77
Duquesne (10-6) 64 @ GW (13-3) 91
George Mason (6-10) 75 @ Davidson (10-4) 81

OOC opponent scores:
SEMO (2-14) 69 @ E Kentucky (11-7) 88
#9 Kentucky (12-3) 77 @ Alabama (9-5) 61
Northeastern (11-6) 60 @ William & Mary (11-4) 78
Quinnipiac (5-9) 74 @ Monmouth (11-4) 88
Jacksonville (8-10) 68 @ N Florida (13-6) 83
Vanderbilt (8-7) 65 @ #22 S Carolina (15-0) 69
Toledo (10-5) 84 @ Miami (OH) (6-9) 76
Chattanooga (13-3) 55 @ Furman (8-8) 70
Miss St (7-7) 68 @ Arkansas (8-7) 82

Between the Flyers and the Bengals, this was a perfect s**tstorm of a day

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Watching RI and St Joe, tied at 38 at half. Fun game to watch. Two teams actually playing hard and making shots.
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Sunday Jan 11

A-10 results:
VCU (11-5) 72 @ St Louis (6-9) 56
Richmond (9-6) 93 @ Fordham (10-4) 82
Rhode Island (10-6) 67 @ St Joe's (12-3) 72

A-10 standings (with RPI rank):

St. Bona . . . 3-0 . . . . . 11-3 . . . . .65
VCU . . . . . . 3-0 . . . . . 11-5 . . . . 106
Geo. Wash. . 2-1 . . . . . 13-3 . . . . 30
Dayton . . . . 2-1 . . . . . 12-3 . . . . 10
Saint Joe's. . 2-1 . . . . . 12-3 . . . . 39
Davidson. . . 2-1 . . . . . 10-4 . . . . 33
R I. . . . . . . 2-1 . . . . . 10-6 . . . . 99
Fordham. . . 1-2 . . . . . 10-4 . . . . 161
Richmond . . 1-2 . . . . . 9-6 . . . . . 110
UMass . . . . 1-2 . . . . . 8-7 . . . . . 141
Saint Louis . 1-2 . . . . . 6-9 . . . . . 197
La Salle . . . 1-2 . . . . . 5-8 . . . . . 271
Duquesne . . 0-3 . . . . . 10-6 . . . . 132
G M . . . . . . 0-3 . . . . . 6-10 . . . . 180


OOC opponents: no games scheduled

Teams receiving votes:
#5 Michigan St (16-1) 92 @ Penn St (10-7) 65
#11 Villanova (14-2) 60 @ #18 Butler (12-4) 55
UCF (8-6) 73 @ #15 SMU (15-0) 88
#16 Louisville (13-3) 62 @ Clemson (10-6) 66
#20 Purdue (14-3) 70 @ Illinois (9-8) 84
Cincinnati (12-5) 54 @ S Florida (3-14) 51
Ohio St (11-6) 60 @ Indiana (14-3) 85
Stanford (9-6) 58 @ Oregon (13-3) 71

Under the radar:
Valparaiso (13-3) 92 @ Detroit (9-6) 74

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BG beat #4 Virginia on Saturday...look out for the Ramblin' Wreck!
A Georgia Tech win and Virginia loss is irrelevant to UD's season or NCAA chances, unless GT because a bubble team somehow.
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Slow night

A-10 - no games scheduled

OOC opponents:
Monmouth (12-4) 86 @ Fairfield (8-8) 74
Chattanooga (14-3) 77 @ Wofford (6-10) 68
Samford (10-7) 57 @ Furman (9-8) 77

No teams receiving votes were in action tonight

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Davidson (10-5) 74 @ Dayton (13-3) 80
G W (14-3) 81 @ UMass (8-8) 70

OOC opponents results:
DePaul (6-11) 64 @ #7 Xavier (15-1) 84
Auburn (7-8) 57 @ Vanderbilt (9-7) 75
Arkansas (8-7) 94 @ Missouri (8-8) 61
Miami (OH) (6-10) 68 @ Kent St (11-5) 76

Other teams receiving votes:
#1 Kansas (14-2) 63 @ #11 West Virginia (15-1) 74
#3 Maryland (15-2) 67 @ Michigan (13-4) 70
#8 Miami (FL) (13-2) 58 @ #13 Virginia (13-3) 66
#12 Providence (15-2) 50 @ Creighton (12-6) 48
Miss St (7-8) 74 @ #14 Kentucky (13-3) 80
Florida (10-6) 68 @ #15 Texas A&M (14-2) 71
#17 Iowa St (12-4) 91 @ Texas (10-6) 94
Texas Tech (11-4) 70 @ Kansas St (11-5) 83
Akron (13-3) 81 @ Central Michigan (9-7) 92

Under the radar:
Wisconsin (9-9) 65 @ Northwestern (15-3) 70
Northern Illinois (14-2) 71 @ Toledo (10-6) 66
Drake (5-12) 65 @ Evansville (15-3) 84
Illinois St (9-9) 78 @ Southern Illinois (15-3) 81
New Hampshire (8-7) 75 @ Albany (14-4) 80

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BG beat #4 Virginia on Saturday...look out for the Ramblin' Wreck!
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A Georgia Tech win and Virginia loss is irrelevant to UD's season or NCAA chances, unless GT because a bubble team somehow.

The thread title is 'Games of Note'. A ranked team losing is - by definition - a game of note.

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And we have latitude (*and respect) as it was Brian Gregory.
we dont simply forego our history.

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A game of "note" can really apply to anything. Most involve UD in some form or fashion, conference member, OOC opponent, a team ranked ahead of them, etc... Some are just "interesting" games, ie Kansas v Okie or other matchups b/w top teams, some might involve a player that was once on UD's recruiting eye (I used to mention Larry Nance's son and Wyoming quite a bit last season, wish UD would have offered, everything seemed to lineup). Lots of people here still pull for BG (while I like Archie as a coach much better, and have grown to see the obvious flaws in his coaching, he was still a great representative for UD and the city, a great person and I hope he finds a way to put it all together at GTech)
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48-22 Bama with 14:00 left over unbeaten Gamecocks.

73-50 Bama final.

What Avery Johnson has done with Bama since they played us is nothing short of amazing.

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Alabama looked good handing S. Carolina its first loss. That said, SC was going to fall soon and Bama was ready to deal the blow. Watching Avery when he managed the Mavs made me a fan of his and I am glad to see him succeed, except when he plays us.
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