Would we gamble?

[UDSpud]

If and only if we are unbeaten going into our final single season game against G. Washington - would, or should, we do the following.

Start and play Obi at PF and Jordy at C together as long and much as possible.
AG will decide what is "long and much".

Why? Many on this site seem to fear us playing against a team in the NCAA tournament with several true bigs (I will define "bigs" as reasonably good 6'9" and bigger and among the top six to eight players on the opposing team). This would prepare us to have this option and at least be somewhat ready and flexible this way.

The downside is slipping in the NCAA seeding, especially if we lose to GW and/or lose in the A-10 Tournament.

Thoughts?

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by UDSpud If and only if we are unbeaten going into our final single season game against G. Washington - would, or should, we do the following. Start and play Obi at PF and Jordy at C together as long and much as possible. AG will decide what is "long and much". Why? Many on this site seem to fear us playing against a team in the NCAA tournament with several true bigs (I will define "bigs" as reasonably good 6'9" and bigger and among the top six to eight players on the opposing team). This would prepare us to have this option and at least be somewhat ready and flexible this way. The downside is slipping in the NCAA seeding, especially if we lose to GW and/or lose in the A-10 Tournament. Thoughts?

The time to do that is how they're doing it now, a few minutes within game, or at the end of games that are decided, one way or another. You don't play with fire and even if it playing those two together, help us in the dance, there's no way they are going to do it for big time minutes. You play with what got you there.

[Flyer 86]

I would change it so say start Jordy in one of the next 4 games that isn't with URI or VCU.

But yeah, let's get Jordy more minutes and some designed plays or passes into the box.

If we ARE undefeated going into final 2 games, we should rest OBi some

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[runnerup]

Yes Jordy needs minutes but just win baby.

[jack72]

Thank goodness Grant is coaching.
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[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by UDSpud If and only if we are unbeaten going into our final single season game against G. Washington - would, or should, we do the following. Start and play Obi at PF and Jordy at C together as long and much as possible. AG will decide what is "long and much". Why? Many on this site seem to fear us playing against a team in the NCAA tournament with several true bigs (I will define "bigs" as reasonably good 6'9" and bigger and among the top six to eight players on the opposing team). This would prepare us to have this option and at least be somewhat ready and flexible this way. The downside is slipping in the NCAA seeding, especially if we lose to GW and/or lose in the A-10 Tournament. Thoughts?

You don't mess with success and momentum. This is as bad as "losing a game to motivate your lazy ballclub".

[sheg]

Originally Posted by jack72 Thank goodness Grant is coaching. Posted via Mobile Device

And Neil is scheduling.

[MikeFlyer]

Jordi needs more than minutes.

[FIFO28]

Its not always us matching up with them sometimes they need to match up with us.

[UDSpud]

Time to revisit this.

UD unbeaten in league, 2,3 or 4 in rankings and most important - Jordy in coming off a very good night.

So, does playing both Jordy (C) and Obi (PF) at the same time against GW still seem foolish? Do we try a big lineup on the floor?

[shocka43]

You do what has worked for the last 30 games. Period.

[Medford]

Jordi & Obi have played together at the same time multiple games this year. No way Jordy is starting over Ryan, Obi or Trey on senior night.

[DGO67]

Originally Posted by UDSpud Time to revisit this. UD unbeaten in league, 2,3 or 4 in rankings and most important - Jordy in coming off a very good night. So, does playing both Jordy (C) and Obi (PF) at the same time against GW still seem foolish? Do we try a big lineup on the floor?

Not sure why you're making a suggestion like this?
Except for missing the front end on free throws 3 times in the closing minutes of the Kansas game and losing on a desperation 3 by Colorado, this team
goes undefeated. Any team can go down pronto in the big dance (like Duke in rnd 1), but prepare for every eventuality ? I can just hear the team mumbling
("dang, what do we have to do to make this coach happy?)

[CT Flyer]

Obi and Jordy played together last night.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by shocka43 You do what has worked for the last 30 games. Period.

Luckily for us - part of what has worked is being able to throw different lineups out there and still being efficient.

That said, we've only played 3 games I can think of where the other team had a legit big man and got a strong performance from a perimeter player. We are 1-2 in those games with the win coming at the buzzer. I think there is a recipe to beating us that most teams can't use because they don't have the big man.

Battey ate us alive on the boards (12 rebounds, 8 of them on the offensive side) while two other players went for 20+. We didn't have an answer for Azubuike (nobody has) and his 29 points while Dotson had 31. French went for 16 points and 17 rebounds while they had 2 other guys turn in strong games.

I feel like sticking to what has worked...will lead to a loss in the tournament when we run into a team like Iowa with a legit big man and a couple of perimeter players who can shoot. We need an answer for that formula - and Jordy is a big part of it.

All that said - I trust AG has a plan. He's a lot smarter than I am - so if I've noticed that formula than so has he.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by UDSpud Time to revisit this. UD unbeaten in league, 2,3 or 4 in rankings and most important - Jordy in coming off a very good night. So, does playing both Jordy (C) and Obi (PF) at the same time against GW still seem foolish? Do we try a big lineup on the floor?

Jordy and Obi have been on the floor at the same time, many times this season and probably will against GW. But no reason to start the game that way.

[UD B8BEE]

My contention is a more practical objective in Saturday’s game is to make sure that Ibi & Chip attempt a dozen 3s. Maybe have Landers shoot half a doz

[CE80]

Originally Posted by UD B8BEE My contention is a more practical objective in Saturday’s game is to make sure that Ibi & Chip attempt a dozen 3s. Maybe have Landers shoot half a doz

That is the recipe to lose a game. I think earlier in the season we started out shooting 3s and when we missed, we dug a hole. It seems recently, we have been more patient. While it has not always been pretty, we still walked away with a W.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by UD B8BEE My contention is a more practical objective in Saturday’s game is to make sure that Ibi & Chip attempt a dozen 3s. Maybe have Landers shoot half a doz

yeah, and let Crutcher and Chatman play in the paint and fight for rebounds and learn to box out guys twice their size. Let's just play 40 minutes trying to improve upon our weaknesses. This game means nothing right?

[UD B8BEE]

My tongue in cheek post implies we are going to win, Saturday but going forward if we can, get some game situation confidence in a few guys outside shot, this is an opportunity to do so

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by UD B8BEE My tongue in cheek post implies we are going to win, Saturday but going forward if we can, get some game situation confidence in a few guys outside shot, this is an opportunity to do so

After having headaches with GM, Duquesne, and SLU, no game should be considered an opportunity to experiment.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 After having headaches with GM, Duquesne, and SLU, no game should be considered an opportunity to experiment.

we will experiment in practice..

during games,
we will win

Go Flyers!

[UD B8BEE]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 After having headaches with GM, Duquesne, and SLU, no game should be considered an opportunity to experiment.

None the above games were home games. We have not had a challenging conference game in our house

[jack72]

Not even Jim O'brien would change Saturday's lineup.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by UD B8BEE None the above games were home games. We have not had a challenging conference game in our house

Baloney with a cajun twist, yes we have!

didn't St Louis have a 2nd half lead
on us, and French fouled out with
5 minutes to go.... which helped greatly..

we knew it was going to be a tough game
and it WAS! 71-65 good guys...

anyone thinking that was not a tough
conference game is not remembering
how tough they have played us both
home and away....

from how they played, I think St Louis
is the 2nd best team in the A10 IMO

Go Flyers!

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by steverino015 Baloney with a cajun twist, yes we have! didn't St Louis have a 2nd half lead on us, and French fouled out with 5 minutes to go.... which helped greatly.. we knew it was going to be a tough game and it WAS! 71-65 good guys... anyone thinking that was not a tough conference game is not remembering how tough they have played us both home and away.... from how they played, I think St Louis is the 2nd best team in the A10 IMO Go Flyers!

And Duquesne had a lead on us at the half. Just because we're at home doesn't mean we can't stumble. Especially against a team with nothing to lose. Obviously 99.99999 percent chance that doesn't happen as long as Flyers don't take anything for granted, like assuming a cake walk and experimenting. They won't.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[UD B8BEE]

Y’all are taking this way too seriously. I obviously know that the line up, rotations, offensive sets etc are not going to change. And I’m not seriously expecting that. My point is that for us to succeed in the ncaa we need Ibi, Chip & Trey to shoot the 3 better than they have in the past month or more

[steverino015]

if I write: Baloney with a cajun twist,
I assure you I am not taking this too seriously...
except for the fried baloney, dam good
stuff right there....

but you said we have not had a challenging
conference game at home....

I'm saying: Hxll to the yxs we have!
any other year, we could very easily
have lost that...

but, during crunch time, whether home or
away... this team - when the game can
go either way... makes the plays, makes
the key passes, makes the shots..

they win by sure will...

Go Flyers!

[BeckysTXA]

Originally Posted by UD B8BEE My contention is a more practical objective in Saturday’s game is to make sure that Ibi & Chip attempt a dozen 3s. Maybe have Landers shoot half a doz

I took this as a joke in response to those who have posted for players to not take 3s this season.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by UD B8BEE My contention is a more practical objective in Saturday’s game is to make sure that Ibi & Chip attempt a dozen 3s. Maybe have Landers shoot half a doz

I can agree with your point, particularly the premise thereof. I say we play our game as we normally do, but if we get a comfortable lead, I would be all for getting Ibi and Chip, Landers too, as many 3-point looks as possible. If we're hitting threes from 5-7 different players, we're darn near unstoppable on the offensive end of the court.

[UD B8BEE]

Thanks SLU

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.