What's It Going to Take?

[Hyde Park Flyer]

For the Flyers to make a run in the A10 tourney, what do you think we need to see? I think there are a few indicators that will determine how far we go. First, Scoochie Smith MUST maintain a high level of play. This does not mean that he needs to do anything more than he's done over the last several games. We just need his solid play, pace and ability to get to the basket. It would be nice if he would hit a couple of 12 foot jump shots, but we can win without that. He also can have hiccups against SJU. I don't look for him to have his best game against them. Martelli will have them clogging our passing lanes again. He'll have some turnovers. He just needs to play better than he did in the loss. We just need solid, not spectacular, play from Scoochie.

Pollard MUST continue to contribute. He played his best game of the year against St. Louis. We don't need that. Like with Scoochie, we just need him to bring his improved play.

Khari must remain healthy enough to play at least 20 minutes.

Pierre needs to score in the 8-14 range and get 5-8 rebounds.

Sibert needs to get at least 5 open looks per game. If he's getting open looks, we're moving the ball well. If he gets open looks, he'll knock down an above average percentage of 3 point shots. He just needs to get the open looks.

Robinson, Scott, Kavs and Gavs (if he's healthy enough to play...I include him because he may play) need to total 10 points per game and grab 6 rebounds.

None of these benchmarks (benchmarks is probably better than indicators) is a pie in the sky type hope against hope thing (hope against hope...is that like an intersquad game at Hope College?). These are all achievable. If I had to pick just 2, I would say that Scoochie's and Pollard's play could determine our results. We beat teams with bench play.

Note: I don't mention Vee. His production is so up and down that the team has learned to adjust to what it gets. It's also not a strong indicator of success. There have been games where his production has reflected a lack of production from Pierre and Sibert. Vee needs to give us bench production, but I see other areas that are a priority.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[cj]

We just need to be loud and wear red.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by cj We just need to be loud and wear red.

You mean '...and wear red propeller beanies.'

As for HydeParks question, how about we show up and play 40 minutes of basketball? With our experience, that should keep us competitive.

[Medford]

I agree with the Scooch comment, his play has come so far from the IPFW game to the end of the season. With Khari's knee issue and the hope of playing multiple games over 3-4 days, really need Scooch to log a bunch of solid minutes. If UD plans to win the A10 tournament, they probably need someone else to step up and fill some minutes at the point (Either Davis or Vee) to get both a rest. That hasn't gone particularly well in the spurts UD has had to use either of those 2 at the PG spot.

Production down low, more than points, they need some toughness inside, just keeping the other team from penetrating the defense and getting easy looks close to the rim would be huge.

Constancy from the perimeter. This team has a collection of really good 3 point threats. There's obviously Sibert, Oliver and Price who all sport 40% accuracty from long range, but you also have Scooch who is very solid from the corner 3 ball spot (seems like he's 50% on that 3 pointer) and decent from directly in facing the rim, he struggles more shooting the 3 from the corner; then there is Pierre who's 3 pt production has dropped this season as his overall game has improved. If he can find his stroke from long range and get to the 40% clip that he was at last year over the next couple of weeks, good things could be in order.

[Tony T 71]

Winning today's game is a good first step, it's the only game that matters

[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by cj We just need to be loud and wear red.

If John R could post here he would say thanks. I saw him wearing that Flyer propellor beanie at the Richmond game and had to chuckle.

He's an original.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Radar]

"show the pass, then throw the pass" -- our downfall in games we struggle vs inferior teams (Duq, URI) and vs stronger teams usually starts with the stupid, lazy pass. The beginning of our half court offense is so predictable that our A10 opponents must salivate when watching tape, knowing precisely when they can jump the pass for an easy steal.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

I won't agree with Rollo out of principle (I think he keeps track of any overt statements of agreement on an abacus in his basement), but I will modify his statement a bit. The Flyers need to play hard on D for 40 minutes. I didn't mention anything about defense in my post because we're a lousy defensive team. But, if we at least go after it on the D end for 40 minutes, we would beat any team in the A10 except for VCU with at least a decent offensive performance. I don't include VCU because there are so many additional factors that come into play against them. Against VCU, I'd be less concerned about whether we'd make shots and more concerned about protecting the ball so that we'd get shots. The key to beating them would have to include a turnover threshold that couldn't be crossed.

Maybe Rollo can get into the lockerroom to put a simple message on the whiteboard: 40 MINUTES. AM could walk in and stare at it silently for a few minutes. When he's done, he should tell them that the difference in the game could be the length of time that he was silent. It can get away that quickly.

[rollo]

I intentionally left the word 'defense' out of my statement because I'm a realist, not a dreamer, and never expect production from those incapable of such expectations.

Should the Flyers play 40 minutes of pressure defense, I'm playing the Super-Mega-Lotto tonite using the starting 5's numbers + Brass Nutz winner's point total.

BTW...rollo's abacus is tattooed on the outside of his right bicep for easy access.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

You should exploit one of your connections to suggest to AM that he do the 40 minute thing on a whiteboard. You would effectively be sneaking into the lockerroom by using clandestine methods to impose your presence.

[udflyerfan]

Whom do you Believe: Dance Card or Bleacher Report????

Don't like the sound of this..........


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...sunday/page/10

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer You should exploit one of your connections to suggest to AM that he do the 40 minute thing on a whiteboard. You would effectively be sneaking into the lockerroom by using clandestine methods to impose your presence.

Are you suggesting that Rollo market life-size FatHead wall decals of himself?!! They could even come with sticky 'quotes' like "MAN UP"...."DROP AND GIVE ME 50" or, my favorite, "EAT ME I'M A WINKIE".

I'll get my agent on it.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

I stopped reading at "life-size FatHead wall decals of himself."

[NorthwestFlyer]

Originally Posted by udflyerfan Whom do you Believe: Dance Card or Bleacher Report???? Don't like the sound of this.......... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...sunday/page/10

Most ignorant op-ed yet. X also has a despicable loss to USC on their resume... and they miss the last game of our season was a home win against (at the time bubble team) Richmond and the third to last was a top 20 RPI win as well. Someone forgot to look at resumes before picking up their pen. I suppose he thinks the selection committee will weigh a 26 point shellacking over a 9 and 1 finish.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[SC_Flyer]

Originally Posted by udflyerfan Whom do you Believe: Dance Card or Bleacher Report???? Don't like the sound of this.......... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...sunday/page/10

That article is no better than stuff I have seen posted on this board. In fact, I could easily have written a better piece with more depth. I guess that is why this Jake Curtis is only writing for B/R.

[flyerfanatic86]

I still don't understand why people read anything on Bleacher Report. And that has absolutely nothing to do with this writer's opinion of Dayton, and everything to do with the quality of the writing on the site in general.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Whats it going to take?

- a win over Fordham
- the Good Lord not ending the earth before Selection Sunday

Otherwise, we dance

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 Whats it going to take? - the Good Lord not ending the earth before Selection Sunday

Don't worry....I won't*.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

I noticed that Fordham's leading scorer played 38 minutes last night. His season average was just over 36. Canty grabbed 19 boards in 32 minutes. This should be a good thing for the Flyers. Canty only averaged 15 minutes per game this year. His legs should be a bit heavy today. He's probably more than a bit sore from his interior work as well. Overall, they basically only went 7 deep (an 8th player got 2 minutes). I like playing a team a day after a close game with guys logging a lot of minutes. Advantage Flyers.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[CC565]

Why is Vee Sanford production down this year from last year? Why Archie Miller want play him some games no more than 14mins. That's the only time he don't produce. And K Davis is a 2 guard only. The End