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Originally Posted by hawkoooo View Post
I guess this is mostly moot now that we know it was a staff member, but to piggy back off Medford's post, I believe it boils down to time of exposure.

IIRC, the NFL study said about 15 minutes. So you might think it would be pretty easy to transmit in the trenches of a football game, but in reality the players are just not that close to each other for long enough periods of time.

Basketball is indoors and there's no helmets, facemasks, visors so maybe it is a little more risky. There are points in a game where a player is very close to an opposing player, but how long does that proximity last?

Let's put it this way. If a player on GW tested positive and it turned out later that a UD player tested positive and the only contact the UD player had with any known infected person was ON THE COURT with this GW player this would be front page news. I don't mean front page of the DDN. I mean headline national breaking story that is reported all over the world. It would be the first instance of any such thing occurring (again I'm hitching myself onto Medford's post).
In this crazy environment we have had the CDC claim that exposure risk was high IF you spent 15 minutes OR MORE near an infected person ... but wait they later made the statement that it was an accumulative 15 minutes so as an example 15 - 1 minute exposures over any period of time.

So brief contact would count in a game against a player who was infected but more than likely contact in practice sessions against one of your own over a couple days would be more risky.

Of course masks weren't necessary in the beginning of the pandemic (later we were told that was NOT true but we didn't have enough masks for the general public and we wanted to conserve what we had for the medical and health staff). Once there was a larger supply we where then told that you MUST wear a mask.

SO is the 15 minutes based on science or is it to allow certain activities to take place?

You may not know this but aerosol droplets can contact your EYES and the membranes of your eyes have cells that the virus can latch on to. The virus does not need to be inhaled into the lungs.

Growing up in the 50' we had civil defense drills in grade school. During an attack we were told to scurry under our desks and place our hands around our head. What they didn't tell us though, if it was a nuclear attack (which is what the main concern truly was at that time) we should have placed our head in a position to kiss our arse good-bye!

There were many other government truisms' in those days predicated around the use of and build up of Nuke arms. Lest the general populace concern themselves about what was really going on.
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NBC Sports Network to close by EOY:

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Per the NCAA, "The NCAA tournament will tip off Thursday, March 18, with the First Four games. The first round will follow March 19-20, with the second round March 21-22. Those games will take place at Mackey Arena in West Lafayette, Assembly Hall in Bloomington, along with Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Hinkle Fieldhouse, Indiana Farmers Coliseum and Lucas Oil Stadium."
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Probably just moving to Peacock Network which will mean games are streamed.
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Did anyone hear that Neubauer got fired at Fordham?
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...sketball-coach

"Neubauer has been on the hot seat for the past couple of seasons, and many expected him to be out after last season. But Fordham athletic director Dave Roach retired last spring, and the changes in the department likely bought Neubauer another season."
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Anyone taking the Fordham job is delusional unless he gets some assurances from the administration. It is a place where coaches go to die.

https://fordhamsports.com/news/2021/...g-fordham.aspx

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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek View Post
Anyone taking the Fordham job is delusional unless he gets some assurances from the administration. It is a place where coaches go to die.

https://fordhamsports.com/news/2021/...g-fordham.aspx
When the word was out last year that Neubauer was on his way out, it was said Jared Grasso from Bryant was the leading candidate. I agree its not the place you would aspire to but it is a big step up to the A10 from the NEC. I guess you just hope to have one good season and catch somebody's eye at a better school. But if that doesn't happen you might not get another look at all.
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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek View Post
Anyone taking the Fordham job is delusional unless he gets some assurances from the administration. It is a place where coaches go to die.

https://fordhamsports.com/news/2021/...g-fordham.aspx
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...sketball-coach

"Neubauer has been on the hot seat for the past couple of seasons, and many expected him to be out after last season. But Fordham athletic director Dave Roach retired last spring, and the changes in the department likely bought Neubauer another season."
We certainly did our part to help him stay employed. Really underscores how horrific our loss is.
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This is kind of off topic, but I’m at the Centerville/Beavercreek game and none other than Kyle Davis is an assistant coach for Beavercreek. He’s very much into the game and coach’s with the same intensity as when he was a player.
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Dayton ranks 84 in the NET, ESPN BPI and the RPI. Scheduling Eastern Illinois was a mistake
as they are 312 (NET); 201 (BPI); 286 (RPI). As we start February the UD Vital stats are suffering.
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Dayton ranks 84 in the NET, ESPN BPI and the RPI. Scheduling Eastern Illinois was a mistake
as they are 312 (NET); 201 (BPI); 286 (RPI). As we start February the UD Vital stats are suffering.
Can you tell us what our NET, BPI and RPI would be if that game hadn't been played?

The losses to LaSalle & Fordham are the boat anchors on the Flyers' metrics, presumably, more so than a close W over EIU. We've got (4) Q1 and Q2 wins for 4-2 in those quads. We'd be looking pretty good w/out the (2) Q4 losses.
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Wright State right now NET 63, Kenpom 65...projected on Kenpom to win out...could have likely played at WSU in a q1 game this year, seems like a missed opportunity if they keep winning
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wright state right now net 63, kenpom 65...projected on kenpom to win out...could have likely played at wsu in a q1 game this year, seems like a missed opportunity if they keep winning

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Interesting afternoon in the A-10: Giant killer LaSalle loses to Fordham and SLU knocks off league leader SBU. We really are canibalizing each other aren’t we?
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Wright State right now NET 63, Kenpom 65...projected on Kenpom to win out...could have likely played at WSU in a q1 game this year, seems like a missed opportunity if they keep winning
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We can forget about UMass on Tuesday:

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FWIW, since neither play until Friday 2/12, both Wright State and Miami are available on Tuesday.
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FWIW, since neither play until Friday 2/12, both Wright State and Miami are available on Tuesday.
Since GW vs Richmond is unlikely to happen Tuesday, and they (GW) owe us a game...they can just divert to Dayton.
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This insight is so unlike the lottery where if I had known the winning Pick 6 combo in advance I would have played the lottery.
Not really...WSU got off to a good start this year...all the computers were projecting them to have a good year...back in December, we had an opening, they had an opening, we could have made this happen, and it had a potential benefit for both sides.
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FWIW, since neither play until Friday 2/12, both Wright State and Miami are available on Tuesday.
Another opportunity, give WSU a call...a q1 road win opportunity or a q2 home game
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Not really...WSU got off to a good start this year...all the computers were projecting them to have a good year...back in December, we had an opening, they had an opening, we could have made this happen, and it had a potential benefit for both sides.
Perhaps this sequence of events is trying to tell you something.
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Rest easy.......we found a better game/opponent.
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Rest easy.......we found a better game/opponent.
How so? VCU at home is a q2 game, WSU at WSU is a q1 game.

Had we played at WSU in December, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled.

Our 3 q1 games this year are at VCU, at SLU, and at Davidson.

At SBU will likely be our final q1 game.

So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth?

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Perhaps this sequence of events is trying to tell you something.
What is it trying to tell me? That we turned down a q1 away game because we are afraid of losing? That is a loser's mentality. Nobody ever got anywhere in life shrinking away from a challenge. Play the tougher games. Come on, we can't be afraid to play a Horizon League school.

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Q3 game at Miami, q4 at UD, no thanks, not worth it.

I was referring to Wright State - they can play Miami.

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What is it trying to tell me? That we turned down a q1 away game because we are afraid of losing? That is a loser's mentality. Nobody ever got anywhere in life shrinking away from a challenge. Play the tougher games. Come on, we can't be afraid to play a Horizon League school.
I had not seen that UD turned down a game with Wright State. Is that true, or are you just playing what if games? If so, then what if UD contacted Wright and they turned down the game?
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How so? VCU at home is a q2 game, WSU at WSU is a q1 game.

Had we played at WSU in December, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled.

Our 3 q1 games this year are at VCU, at SLU, and at Davidson.

At SBU will likely be our final q1 game.

So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth?

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75.

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None of this matters this year. We are not good enough to get an at-large bid. the only way we dance is by being A-10 champs, and the odds of that happening are huge.

If you are suggesting that we should have scheduled an away game at WSU, you are beating a dead horse.
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How so? VCU at home is a q2 game, WSU at WSU is a q1 game.

Had we played at WSU in December, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled.

Our 3 q1 games this year are at VCU, at SLU, and at Davidson.

At SBU will likely be our final q1 game.

So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth?

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75.

Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; Neutral 51-100; Away 76-135.

WSU 56

At 36 VCU, q1
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At 68 Davidson, q1

57 SMU home, q2
64 Ole Miss home, q2
72 MSU neutral, q2
You're making the assumption that a game vs WSU is at their place.

We could have, and perhaps even should have, played them earlier in the year. I'll repeat, with the short window scheduling, it could have easily happened, setting aside all egos and negotiating chips (2-for-1, where is this game played?, next years'?, etc.).

But given the history of WSU's net/RPI, it's nary a thought. Might have been a quality win/opponent.

The attention and energy with which you focus on it is nowhere near the issue you want it to be.

LET. IT. GO.
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how so? Vcu at home is a q2 game, wsu at wsu is a q1 game.

Had we played at wsu in december, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled.

Our 3 q1 games this year are at vcu, at slu, and at davidson.

At sbu will likely be our final q1 game.

So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth?

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; neutral 1-50; away 1-75.

Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; neutral 51-100; away 76-135.

Wsu 56

at 36 vcu, q1
at 39 sbu, q1
at 43 slu, q1
at 68 davidson, q1

57 smu home, q2
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72 msu neutral, q2

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During the OSU butt-kicking of Archie’’s Hoosiers, Jay Bilas repeatedly said that Indiana is an NCAA tournament team. They’re 11-9 and 6-7 in their conference. Also, Lunardi has them in at a 10 seed. Are you kidding me? The P5 bias is alive and well.
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During the OSU butt-kicking of Archie’’s Hoosiers, Jay Bilas repeatedly said that Indiana is an NCAA tournament team. They’re 11-9 and 6-7 in their conference. Also, Lunardi has them in at a 10 seed. Are you kidding me? The P5 bias is alive and well.
I don't believe this is a good example of P5 bias. They swept Iowa, for one. They've certainly "looked" like an NCAAt team in most of their games. If they get to/finish .500 in a brutal B10, they should be in. At a 10 seed is a slippery slope. That's far from being comfortable.
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I don't believe this is a good example of P5 bias. They swept Iowa, for one. They've certainly "looked" like an NCAAt team in most of their games. If they get to/finish .500 in a brutal B10, they should be in. At a 10 seed is a slippery slope. That's far from being comfortable.
They’re 11-9 and will likely lose more games in a very tough conference. So by your logic, losses don’t count and are almost like wins. Oh, and they have “looked” like an NCAA tournament team. I guess that falls in the category of “passing the eye test.”. I’d much rather see two MVC teams like Drake and Loyola get bids over an average to mediocre Indiana team. Winning games should matter.
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They’re 11-9 and will likely lose more games in a very tough conference. So by your logic, losses don’t count and are almost like wins. Oh, and they have “looked” like an NCAA tournament team. I guess that falls in the category of “passing the eye test.”. I’d much rather see two MVC teams like Drake and Loyola get bids over an average to mediocre Indiana team. Winning games should matter.
I agree with winning games. It should trump a handful of "close losses". If Drake had lost to Loyola-Chi last weekend in the second game, I would have Drake OUT. I actually turned it off when they were down 10 with like 5 minutes to play. Made a big comeback and won it in OT.

Until then, Drake hadn't beat a team in the Kenpom Top 100. I was, and still partially am, a fan of Drake making the tournament. Thru their first ~18 games, they were DESTROYING teams. But they hadn't beaten a single team in at-large contention. While wins should count, you've got to pick up some quality wins.

Even with their Win over Loyola, I might still be inclined to take IU over Drake with their comparable resumes. IU is 7-8 in Q1/Q2 games. That's pretty darn good and there should be SOME benefit to a challenging schedule, particularly that tough and winning ~half of those games.

Drake is 5-1 in Q1/Q2 games, with most of those being Q2 games.

I'd give the nod to Drake right now, but I think it's pretty close. That comeback win last weekend was MASSIVE for them.
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The NIT announced today that the NIT will be played this year. We are the 21st team out of the ncaat right now on Torvik, if we make an end of season run, we could play ourselves into the NIT.

I think a ncaat at-large bid is probably out of the question right now, even if we win out we are the 5th team out on Torvik.

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John Feinstein, an author and contributor to the Washington Post, is reporting that the NIT plans to host its annual tournament, though this year there will be 16 teams rather than the traditional 32. All games are expected to be held in New York.

Feinstein did not mention whether or not Madison Square Garden would still be hosting the tournament. Typically, the basketball cathedral in the heart of New York City hosts the final rounds of the NIT.

One other change to this year’s tournament is that conference regular season champions who do not earn a bid to the NCAA Tournament will not receive a guaranteed spot into the NIT. That is likely because of the limited number of teams that will be invited this year.

Like the NCAA Tournament last year, the NIT was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic. So far, just one college basketball postseason event has been called off, with the CIT announcing it will not move forward with this year’s tournament.

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The NIT announced today that the NIT will be played this year. We are the 21st team out of the ncaat right now on Torvik, if we make an end of season run, we could play ourselves into the NIT.

I think a ncaat at-large bid is probably out of the question right now, even if we win out we are the 5th team out on Torvik.

https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?...yton&year=2021

https://saturdaytradition.com/big-te...21-tournament/:

John Feinstein, an author and contributor to the Washington Post, is reporting that the NIT plans to host its annual tournament, though this year there will be 16 teams rather than the traditional 32. All games are expected to be held in New York.

Feinstein did not mention whether or not Madison Square Garden would still be hosting the tournament. Typically, the basketball cathedral in the heart of New York City hosts the final rounds of the NIT.

One other change to this year’s tournament is that conference regular season champions who do not earn a bid to the NCAA Tournament will not receive a guaranteed spot into the NIT. That is likely because of the limited number of teams that will be invited this year.

Like the NCAA Tournament last year, the NIT was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic. So far, just one college basketball postseason event has been called off, with the CIT announcing it will not move forward with this year’s tournament.

Yeah, I don’t think Dayton goes to the NIT if invited. It’s not like we can bring fans, and all it does is create more logistical headaches during a pandemic With a team that lost to Fordham not probably caring much at that point.
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A-10 tourny and we have a possible three more losses . Don't think we have any real possibility of post season play. And ferd makes a point, why go?
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You may be right, Feinstein mentions some p5 teams possibly skipping the NIT.

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Does anyone even care about the NIT?
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Does anyone even care about the NIT?
Most fans are pretty cavalier about the NIT. This year? I suspect the interest would be non-existent.

CAG, with a boatload of underclassmen? What could it hurt? A couple more games against some decent opponents? I know Crutcher will be presumably disinterested. Probably even more disinterested than Watson seemingly is every defensive possession. But it might be worth the "development time" for some guys.
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The A-10 added a game for UD on Wednesday vs St Joe:

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And at Saint Bonaventure next Sunday is the season finale.
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Now the 13th team out on Torvik, the NIT may be in reach if they just take the first 16 out.

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An extra game or so could be important to Crutcher as he moves up in some historical statistics. He’d likely be higher if he hadn’t missed out on post season games last year and canceled games this year.
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This is the only current NIT tracker I could find, updated Thu 2/18, we are the 7th team out I guess since they are only taking 16. SLU win should help.

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Senior Night will be celebrated Feb 19 SLU game.
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And at Saint Bonaventure next Sunday is the season finale.
Saint Bonaventure game has been moved to Monday, March 1st.

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Game time and which ESPN network it will televised on will be announced this week
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I also see the final game with VCU has been cancelled.
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Not that I want to see Dayton in the CBI but are we even eligible to be invited?

I agree with poster above. We need to get our freshman playing time to see what they can do. What better way than a meaningless tournament like the CBI?
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Not that I want to see Dayton in the CBI but are we even eligible to be invited?

I agree with poster above. We need to get our freshman playing time to see what they can do. What better way than a meaningless tournament like the CBI?
There is no CBI this year. It’s been cancelled.
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This may sound crazy but the A-10 might want to consider scheduling some games the Wednesday between the A-10 tourney semis and finals. It would be a chance to give teams another game, not unlike what the Big 10 did in football, scheduling games the same day as the Big 10 Championship game. It would give kids a chance to play another game and perhaps give a bubble team another chance to get a quality win.
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https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

4th team out of the NIT.

Torvik has UD in the NIT field in the last 4 in.
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Are they really having the NIT?? Good lord...
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This may sound crazy but the A-10 might want to consider scheduling some games the Wednesday between the A-10 tourney semis and finals. It would be a chance to give teams another game, not unlike what the Big 10 did in football, scheduling games the same day as the Big 10 Championship game. It would give kids a chance to play another game and perhaps give a bubble team another chance to get a quality win.
Extremely unlikely. If they were going to consider that, why not just do it the week the conference already had open, rather than push the first three rounds of the conference tourney up a week? Their actions would appear counterintuitive to such a consideration.
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Are they really having the NIT?? Good lord...
Yes, they are having it...16 teams instead of 32...all games in NYC...no autobid to low major regular season league winners if they lose in their conference tourney...some p5's, per rumor, will skip the NIT, if offered a bid, claiming covid as an excuse

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Extremely unlikely. If they were going to consider that, why not just do it the week the conference already had open, rather than push the first three rounds of the conference tourney up a week? Their actions would appear counterintuitive to such a consideration.

I could see them doing something like this if let’s say, Saint Bonaventure, St. Louis, VCU, or Richmond go out in the tournament early. The conference could then manufacturer a quad one or two game for those teams to get them back on the bubble.
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In this interview with Bernadette McGlade she says that Neil offered UD Arena for the A-10 Championship after the decision had been made to move it up a week and all the other ADs were totally onboard:

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As I watched the you tube video released today of Chris Mack's comments about John Calipari after Louisville's win over UK back on Dec. 26th I couldn't help but think of the Evansville incident when Mack (at the direction of Jim Crews) threw the basketball 3 straight times at 7'0" Wes Coffee's face guarding the inbounds play under the basket. Was it in 1992, Coffee's senior year? I tried to find that UD game vs. the Evansville Purple Aces on you tube and couldn't find it. Is there any game video?
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I was at that game. It was blatant and a very hard and intentional blow to the face.
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I was at that game, too. As much as I can’t stand Mack, he was the 2nd of the Evansville players to do it, and I think he only did it once. The first guy to follow Crews’ order was a guy named Scott Shreffler. As I recall, after Shreffler did the first one, the crowd was stunned at first, and then angry. Then, when Mack did the second one, people were just irate. Afterward, Mack said that his regret over the incident was one of the factors that led him to transfer to _avier, but in seeing how his players at said alma mater handed themselves on and off the court, I had to wonder if Crews didn’t think he had the right weasel for the job.
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I was at that game, too. As much as I can’t stand Mack, he was the 2nd of the Evansville players to do it, and I think he only did it once. The first guy to follow Crews’ order was a guy named Scott Shreffler. As I recall, after Shreffler did the first one, the crowd was stunned at first, and then angry. Then, when Mack did the second one, people were just irate. Afterward, Mack said that his regret over the incident was one of the factors that led him to transfer to _avier, but in seeing how his players at said alma mater handed themselves on and off the court, I had to wonder if Crews didn’t think he had the right weasel for the job.
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Thanks for the clarification of events T-Bone 84. I wasn't at the game and I didn't realize he only got hit twice, once by Shreffler and then once by Mack. Didn't Shreffler have something like 30 points in the game? Did the Flyers win? The reason I posted above is that I thought someone would have a tape of the game or at least the sequence as described above. That would be an interesting game to be able to watch for those of us that weren't there!
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I was at that game, too. As much as I can’t stand Mack, he was the 2nd of the Evansville players to do it, and I think he only did it once. The first guy to follow Crews’ order was a guy named Scott Shreffler. As I recall, after Shreffler did the first one, the crowd was stunned at first, and then angry. Then, when Mack did the second one, people were just irate. Afterward, Mack said that his regret over the incident was one of the factors that led him to transfer to _avier, but in seeing how his players at said alma mater handed themselves on and off the court, I had to wonder if Crews didn’t think he had the right weasel for the job.
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While Mack's players (particularly Lyons & Holloway) did not always present themselves in the best light, Mack himself is a pretty good dude.
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Thanks for the clarification of events T-Bone 84. I wasn't at the game and I didn't realize he only got hit twice, once by Shreffler and then once by Mack. Didn't Shreffler have something like 30 points in the game? Did the Flyers win? The reason I posted above is that I thought someone would have a tape of the game or at least the sequence as described above. That would be an interesting game to be able to watch for those of us that weren't there!
IIR, the year after Haffner lit us up for 65, I believe Shreffler went definitely for 30 and maybe even low 40's against us. Can anyone confirm that?
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IIR, the year after Haffner lit us up for 65, I believe Shreffler went definitely for 30 and maybe even low 40's against us. Can anyone confirm that?
Haffner went for 65 in 1989. Can't confirm if Shreffler did his deal the following year or not. I suspect in was 2 or 3 years later, but not sure.

Here's a good rundown on the Mack/Coffee incident: https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-835908.html
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Mack could have and should have ignored his coach, but the real villain in that incident is Jim Crews. He was a tool as a player and even worse as a coach.
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