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2017 Schedule

I'm expecting an announcement any day now.

tOSU has announced theirs and the following teams will be playing at the Dayton Tournament on Sept 15-16, the last OOC weekend before conference play begins.

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Western KY

This is a great OOC line up so far. I expect our first weekend or two to be less competitive so teams can build some confidence and get settled in to their rotations.

SLU also will be playing in Provo, UT against BYU and UTRGV. BYU will help their rpi and the A-10.

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Nice job finding this Becky!

This is obviously a great start to 2017 non-con schedule. Any time you can get a home match against a Big Ten team it is good and Western Kentucky is always a good team too. Santa Clara may not be an elite, Top 50 program, but even that match should be challenging. The Flyers will have chances, in Fredrick, for some quality wins.

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La Salle at Dayton, Sun Oct 1 2017 1PM
Dayton at Fordham, Fri Oct 6, 2017 7PM
Fordham at Dayton Sun Nov 5 2017 1PM

(Knowing this, we should be playing at URI on 10/7 or 10/8, and hosting URI on Fri 11/3. Also maybe only 1 game with Duquesne on Fri 9/29 at Frericks.)

And if LaSalle/Duquesne are single games, we must be doing home-and-home with GDub and Mason instead this year.
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First 2017 A-10 Team Schedule

La Salle looks like they are the first to post their schedule.
http://www.goexplorers.com/schedule.aspx?path=wvball

I definitely have a lot of thoughts, but not much time at the moment. I'll say that overall I like it. There may not be any big name schools, like St. John's, Villanova, or Temple, but I think removing the Philadelphia "Big 5" challenge this year has given them more flexibility to craft a custom schedule that more closely fits where they are as a program. I also really like how they do not have a game against Delaware St. La Salle has demonstrated over the last three years they are capable of winning that match no matter where it is, so I'm glad they moved on and hopefully they will create new rivalries.

The schedule provides opportunities for some wins, but the home tournament will be tough for them and the last tournament should be very difficult with no teams against the normal conferences they have success against.

Any other thoughts from the first A-10 schedule?

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Originally Posted by BeckysTXA View Post
I'm expecting an announcement any day now.

tOSU has announced theirs and the following teams will be playing at the Dayton Tournament on Sept 15-16, the last OOC weekend before conference play begins.

tOSU
Santa Clara
Western KY

This is a great OOC line up so far. I expect our first weekend or two to be less competitive so teams can build some confidence and get settled in to their rotations.
This has apparently changed. Some State School from Columbus Ohio is now hosting an event that weekend, 'Buckeye Invitational', with Dayton, Northern Illinois and Western Kentucky.
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Wow! That's a surprise. I guess the schedule wasn't final. I sure hope Dayton still has a chance to host a home tournament.

The loss of Santa Clara and the late addition of Northern Illinois is also strange. Northern Illinois is a good program to pick up on your schedule at the last hour. Every game should be difficult. I think it will now include the 2016 Champs of CUSA, MAC, and A-10. This is a big time midwest tournament. I'm excited about every team. I have wanted to see Northern Illinois on Dayton's schedule for a while, although it would have been better in Dayton. We might need to get the inside scoop on this change.
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I see SLU also plays tOSU out in Provo. BYU and tOSU in one weekend. Those are strong teams that will help the A10 programs. SLU had a tough schedule last year and appear to be putting another strong one together.
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Wow! That's a surprise. I guess the schedule wasn't final. I sure hope Dayton still has a chance to host a home tournament.

The loss of Santa Clara and the late addition of Northern Illinois is also strange. Northern Illinois is a good program to pick up on your schedule at the last hour. Every game should be difficult. I think it will now include the 2016 Champs of CUSA, MAC, and A-10. This is a big time midwest tournament. I'm excited about every team. I have wanted to see Northern Illinois on Dayton's schedule for a while, although it would have been better in Dayton. We might need to get the inside scoop on this change.
A couple years ago there was a schedule change after UD released its schedule. And I think it also has tOSU in the mix. It was one of those weekend that some teams played at both UD and either Wright State or tOSU and they re-arranged the schedules. If you get a chance to upgrade your schedule, I guess you do it even at a late date. Santa Clara could still be in the mix, just on a different weekend. There must be a lot of shifting this spring because there are not very many teams that have released their schedules and usually they announce before school is out.
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So I have some more thoughts on the La Salle schedule. I have been paying attention to them recently and trying to be familiar enough to be able to conclude if they are still improving. You are probably gonna read the phrase "since 2006" a lot in the next few paragraphs. La Salle's online records go back until then. I can't go back any further. To be honest, we probably don't need to go back further than 08' since that's when the NCAA switched to 25 pt matches, but for now let's use the larger sample size.

First lets look real quick at some of the teams that are not on La Salle's 2017 schedule. La Salle has dropped local rivals Delaware State, Fairleigh Dickinson, Villanova, and Temple. The last time La Salle has not played Temple was 1983 and this is only the 3rd time since 06' that La Salle has not played Villanova or FDU. I'm not surprised by the move to drop Temple and Villanova because the gap between La Salle and these other Philly schools seems way too big for the matches to be beneficial to any of these programs. They were able to keep Penn on the schedule, so it will be nice that they still have a nearby rival. I was surprised that FDU was not on the schedule. Games between La Salle and FDU have been very competitive. Only one match between these teams was a 3 set sweep (in La Salle's favor) and two of the last four matches had a total point differential less than 10.

Zooming out a bit, when you compare La Salle's 2016 schedule to their upcoming schedule, the Explorers have traded matches against the MEAC (Del. St. & Morgan St.), the NEC (SFU Pa & FDU), and the MAAC (Quinnipiac x2 & Niagara) for matches against the Patriot League, the Ivy League, and the midwest. Some teams from these conference still made the schedule, but in general this seems like the big change. La Salle has traded comfortable matches for uncomfortable match ups. While the new schedule still looks like a collection of RPI bottom dwellers (New Orleans 324, Lafayette 323, Bucknell 319, Iona 318, Loyola Md. 303, Akron 290, and Tenn. Tech 289) it is a significant trade off for La Salle. Since 2006 La Salle has had significant success against the MEAC (12-11 0.529), the NEC (15-8 0.652), and the MAAC (18-13 0.580). Instead, La Salle has had little success against the Patriot League with only 7 wins in 26 tries for a success rate of 26.9 %. Since 2006 La Salle has also failed to get any wins against the Ivy League (0-9) and has also failed to get wins against the midwest (0-9 against the MAC, Horizon, and OVC).

For now let's just look at the Patriot league due to the quantity. In total La Salle will go against the Patriot League 5 times with matches against Bucknell, Lafayette, Loyola Md., Navy, and Colgate. La Salle's most success when facing off against the Patriot League has been against nearby rival Lafayette. La Salle has gone 4-5 against Lafayette since '06 and has won the last two matches. But that should be La Salle's easiest match in the non-con. La Salle's first match in the Patriot League will see them try to earn their first win against Bucknell since 2006. La Salle has lost all 6 times despite Bucknell only having an average RPI over the last eleven years of 253.64. The most difficult Patriot league match should be the road tilt against Colgate. La Salle hasn't played Colgate since 2006, and for good reason. Colgate has been the 3rd most successful program in the Patriot behind American and Army. La Salle has plenty of seasons with at least two games against the Patriot League. La Salle has never, since 2006, won at least two matches against the Patriot. Given how many times the two will meet, La Salle will need to do just that to make their 2017 non-con a success.

To me, it sure looks like head coach Caitlin Schweihofer is trying to test her big Sophmore class and to see where they are. And I like the strategy. Some of the matches look winnable, but almost every match will provide some type of challenge. The schedule provides multiple opportunities for this long struggling team to get monkeys off their back, and that might be just what they need.

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Enough about La Salle, Dayton just showed up on the schedule of High Point. http://highpointpanthers.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=386

Dayton will be at the Northern Illinois Tournament in the opening weekend and play Northern Illinois, High Point, and Cal Poly. Without going into to too much detail, it sure looks like it will be stronger than our first tournament last year (Toledo, Wright State, SIUE)

High Point also plays VCU on 9/5/2017 for a midweek match.

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So, with High Point's schedule out, we are currently slated to play Northern Illinois twice this year. Once at Columbus Ohio, and once at Northern Illinois.

I wonder if one of those tournaments is going to change.
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Not that High Point is hosting this tournament, but you have to wonder if when Horsmon came back if he set up a match with High Point because I believe at the time former Horsmon assistant Jason Oliver was HC at High Point? He has moved on to Indiana as an assistant in the Big 10. A good move for him even going from a HC back to an assistant. I wondered if we would have Indiana on our schedule in the future. I also think UD could have suggested to Northern ILL to add High Point to help complete our contract. Something like, "we will commit to your invitation to play in your tournament if you can help us with our High Point contract." I don't know if that happens, but it kind of sounds like a possibility.

And for the record here, this is all 100% speculation on my part. It's off-seasonitis. I have nothing concrete to talk about, so the mind wanders to speculation.

I'll also add, High Point put together a tough OOC schedule for that program. Oliver took them to their first NCAA tournament, so there isn't a lot of historical success their, but if they could win a couple OOC matches with the right teams (i.e. Not UD), this match could pay dividends for UDs RPI.

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Udisit19- I agree with everything you've noted. LaSalle is on the move in the right direction. Good young female coach. And I'll throw out a side note here, their coach was suppose to play at UD as a grad transfer for one year after finishing her degree in 3 years at St Johns if I remeber correctly. It was announced she was coming, but then it didn't happen. My GUESS after looking at her bio was she got a high school coaching job and decided to go for it, which appears to have paid off.

I also have heard LaSalle has upped their scholarships for volleyball. I think this happened about the time they hired Catilyn. I can't confirm this, and I do not know the numbers, but I've heard it from a couple side sources. I.e. Some club coaches, and they usually know. I do know LaSalle is bringing in better players and more of them, and I would think you need scholarship money to do that. This is all good for the A-10 and UD.

I know a little about Bucknells program. Another no-scholarship program. I expect LaSalle to beat Bucknell and most of their OOC matches, which should help them get better scheduling again next year. Their sophomore class is good and they have solid recruits coming the next two years. I expect a mid-conference finish for them this year and they could pull a couple upsets. I expect them to make the A10 tourney.

SLUs schedule looks good again this year, so let's hope others in the conference are putting together tough schedules too. The two weekend we know about for UD look to be huge upgrades from last year.
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VCU posted their schedule. They are hosting the Flyers on Sun 10/29.

With VCU, LaSalle and Fordham announcing their schedules, I put a spreadsheet together to determine the rest of the conference schedule for the Flyers.

First weekend 9/22,23,24 they will play Saint Louis. (not sure home/away since its a travel partner game.)
9/29 and 10/1 - hosting Duquesne then La Salle.
10/6 and 10/7,8 - at Fordham and Rhode Island.
10/13,14,15 - they play Saint Louis to finish the home-and-home travel partner series.
10/20,21,22 - they will play Mason and GDub (assuming home games since previous and following weekends GW/GM host)
10/27 and 10/29 - they play at Davidson and VCU.
11/3 and 11/5 - they host Rhode Island and Fordham
11/10,11,12 - they play Mason and GDub (assuming away, based on previous determination)

That should be the conference schedule. And the A10 Tournament is at Duquesne's Palumbo Center.
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