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Got it, euphemism is mainstream media = board naysayers. I wasn't connecting those two, thanks.
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Richmond taking a hit lately. Khwan fore and now De'Monte Buckingham has been dismissed from the program
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Source: Don't be surprised to see Quade Green transfer from Kentucky to LaSalle. Ashley Howard recruited him while at Nova. Cal already prepping for the loss. I'm told LaSalle would be the choice.

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How the heck does that happen?
Well he is from Philly
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How the heck does that happen?
He likes the smell of chlorine while playing. It reminds him of summer.
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Well he is from Philly
I think he was asking more about how does the kid already have a new school picked out if he hasn't gotten his release yet. There are a lot of schools in Philly not named LaSalle.

I know he has a connection there, but sounds like the conversations have already been had, which would be against the rules.
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I think he was asking more about how does the kid already have a new school picked out if he hasn't gotten his release yet. There are a lot of schools in Philly not named LaSalle.

I know he has a connection there, but sounds like the conversations have already been had, which would be against the rules.
I think they do it through things like AAU coaches/3rd parties
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He likes the smell of chlorine while playing. It reminds him of summer.
Less then 5% of this board has any clue what you just said. I do. And i love it.
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I get it, BRob, and I agree with you. It was brilliant.
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The 2018-19 college basketball season will be longer than most years. Things start on Nov. 6th and end on April 8th. Selection Sunday will be on March 17th.
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The 2018-19 college basketball season will be longer than most years. Things start on Nov. 6th and end on April 8th. Selection Sunday will be on March 17th.
That's fantastic!! Now Spina won't have to refer to St. Patrick's day as March 17. He can call it Selection Sunday.
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Ben Howland now has all hands on deck for 18-19. All four Mississippi State's players who declared for the NBA Draft are coming back. Bulldogs should be in SEC's top tier.
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...op-six-scorers

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Auburn had Jarred Harper, Austin Wiley and Bryce Brown return after testing the NBA draft waters but lost leading scorer Mustapha Heron to transfer. Even with Heron gone it still looks like they should be a top 15-20 and contender in the SEC.

Auburn and Mississippi should be two chances to get statement victories next year
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...op-six-scorers

Good read on Mississippi State for next year
Hard to believe a young, totally inexperienced UD team that had 26 TO's lost by only 2 last year down there after being down by over 20 points in the 2nd half. UD had the ball in the last seconds only to have it stolen away..
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Stanford power forward Reid Travis is transferring from the program, a source tells @247Sports. Averaged 19.5 PPG & 8.7 RPG last season.

Big blow to potential Battle for Atlantis opponent
We would love to have this kid. A back to the basket, tough player, who still has his name in the draft. If he pulls out, he is KY bound.
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Recent bracketologies...Auburn 3/3...Miss State 4/7...Davidson 10/11...Indiana 7/9...Nevada as a 2/3, wow.

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It was supposed to be one bid last year too.
Its way too early to know, but a ‘normal’ year in the A10 is three bids.
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I think the A10 top to bottom will be a better conference next year top to bottom but I can buy it being a 1 bid league.

On paper right now I don't think there's a dominate team coming into next year. The key to getting multiple bids has been having teams that finish with 14+ conference wins and the top teams getting separation from the pack. I could see a situation where 12-13 wins the conference next year.

Other than George Mason the teams getting projected at the top like StL and Davidson have some talent coming back but are breaking in a lot of new guys and St Joes has some serious injury question marks. Might take them a while to gel and cost them a chance at some marquee OOC wins
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We are slotted to hang out with our pal Juan Bidd every year it seems and every year we get in three or more.

Still no big signed. Absolutely laughable at this point
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We are slotted to hang out with our pal Juan Bidd every year it seems and every year we get in three or more.

Still no big signed. Absolutely laughable at this point
We won 2 games in the NCAA Tourney with 6.5 guys lol and no one taller than 6'6"... We'll be fine jeez

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I keep reading about not having a big man. Toppin is 6'8'', Mikesell is 6"7", Matos is 6"6"and Policelli is 6"8''. Last year the first person off the bench was Savboda who was 6"6" but was a step slow. Next was Kostas who never improved his game and was 190 lbs. I don't know how good these players are but there is plenty of overall height.

The game has changed over the years. A big man who can't move, dribble penetrate and shoot from at least 15 feet is more of a liability than an asset. Those 6"9" and above who can do all that are few and we have little chance of getting one of them.


We really need a backup point guard. Maybe the non scholarship freshman is the answer?


Last year ,we had no bench. I think will be much improved this year
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I keep reading about not having a big man. Toppin is 6'8'', Mikesell is 6"7", Matos is 6"6"and Policelli is 6"8''. Last year the first person off the bench was Savboda who was 6"6" but was a step slow. Next was Kostas who never improved his game and was 190 lbs. I don't know how good these players are but there is plenty of overall height.

The game has changed over the years. A big man who can't move, dribble penetrate and shoot from at least 15 feet is more of a liability than an asset. Those 6"9" and above who can do all that are few and we have little chance of getting one of them.


We really need a backup point guard. Maybe the non scholarship freshman is the answer?


Last year ,we had no bench. I think will be much improved this year
Crutcher will play a lot... Cohill will spell him at times at the 1 in addition to playing mostly at the 2
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We won 2 games in the NCAA Tourney with 6.5 guys lol and no one taller than 6'6"... We'll be fine jeez

Coach Grant wants to spread the floor and use our athleticism
I don't think height matters so much but whether or not a guy can play around the basket.

Pollard at 6'5 can bang in the post, X. Williams at 6'8 can't. Luke Fabrizius was 6'9 but he couldn't rebound or defend a big guy down low.

Open question whether Obi or Frankie can play in the paint.

Very legitimate question whether the players that are here are able to defend and rebound against the better front lines in the A10.
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The game has changed over the years. A big man who can't move, dribble penetrate and shoot from at least 15 feet is more of a liability than an asset. Those 6"9" and above who can do all that are few and we have little chance of getting one of them.
I get what you are saying, but it is still very valuable IMO to have a guy that can play with his back to the basket. Having somebody like that just seems to create so many problems for the opposing defense, it really opens up your offense.

The defense has to collapse, which opens up the perimeter, creates passing lanes, and makes it easier to dribble drive. Good inside-out basketball is hard to stop.

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I have solved the big man issue. We just have to wait a few years to get him. 6'11" 12 yrs old Canadian. He has a 15 year old brother and dad is 6'8".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...lory-1.4709527
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We need to rebound this year, we dropped around 114 spots in the rpi, from around rpi #32 to around rpi #146, from Archie's last year to 2017-18, our worst year over year rpi drop in the last 25 years.

Last year was the quintessential rough transitional year.

We improved around 114 spots from 1998-1999 to 1999-2000 though, so such an improvement is not unprecedented.

And we improved 113 spots from 1996-1997 to 1997-1998.

And we improved 108 spots from 2005-2006 to 2006-2007.

Dayton Flyers RPI History

Season Record RPI Rank SOS Rank

2016-2017 25-8 0.5920 32 0.5273 93
2015-2016 25-7 0.6063 22 0.5573 49
2014-2015 25-8 0.5920 32 0.5273 93
2013-2014 23-10 0.5837 43 0.5539 61
2012-2013 17-14 0.5287 114 0.5370 95
2011-2012 20-12 0.5546 81 0.5425 68
2010-2011 22-13 0.5608 70 0.5455 69
2009-2010 20-12 0.5769 54 0.5661 33
2008-2009 26-7 0.6037 27 0.5319 95
2007-2008 21-10 0.5906 32 0.5645 33
2006-2007 19-12 0.5573 75 0.5431 76
2005-2006 13-17 0.4835 183 0.5183 112
2004-2005 18-11 0.5205 126 0.4945 162
2003-2004 24-8 0.5864 40 0.5319 84
2002-2003 24-5 0.6212 13 0.5525 54
2001-2002 20-10 0.5599 62 0.5243 93
2000-2001 19-12 0.5538 72 0.5341 83
1999-2000 22-8 0.5736 43 0.5204 108
1998-1999 11-17 0.4933 157 0.5268 95
1997-1998 20-11 0.5594 59 0.5309 84
1996-1997 13-14 0.4863 172 0.4879 161
1995-1996 15-14 0.4833 177 0.4720 202
1994-1995 7-20 0.4635 194 0.5316 77
1993-1994 5-21 0.4581 208 0.5467 62

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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
We need to rebound this year, we dropped around 114 spots in the rpi, from around rpi #32 to around rpi #146, from Archie's last year to 2017-18, our worst year over year rpi drop in the last 25 years.

Last year was the quintessential rough transitional year.

We improved around 114 spots from 1998-1999 to 1999-2000 though, so such an improvement is not unprecedented.

And we improved 113 spots from 1996-1997 to 1997-1998.

And we improved 108 spots from 2005-2006 to 2006-2007.

Dayton Flyers RPI History

Season Record RPI Rank SOS Rank

2016-2017 25-8 0.5920 32 0.5273 93
2015-2016 25-7 0.6063 22 0.5573 49
2014-2015 25-8 0.5920 32 0.5273 93
2013-2014 23-10 0.5837 43 0.5539 61
2012-2013 17-14 0.5287 114 0.5370 95
2011-2012 20-12 0.5546 81 0.5425 68
2010-2011 22-13 0.5608 70 0.5455 69
2009-2010 20-12 0.5769 54 0.5661 33
2008-2009 26-7 0.6037 27 0.5319 95
2007-2008 21-10 0.5906 32 0.5645 33
2006-2007 19-12 0.5573 75 0.5431 76
2005-2006 13-17 0.4835 183 0.5183 112
2004-2005 18-11 0.5205 126 0.4945 162
2003-2004 24-8 0.5864 40 0.5319 84
2002-2003 24-5 0.6212 13 0.5525 54
2001-2002 20-10 0.5599 62 0.5243 93
2000-2001 19-12 0.5538 72 0.5341 83
1999-2000 22-8 0.5736 43 0.5204 108
1998-1999 11-17 0.4933 157 0.5268 95
1997-1998 20-11 0.5594 59 0.5309 84
1996-1997 13-14 0.4863 172 0.4879 161
1995-1996 15-14 0.4833 177 0.4720 202
1994-1995 7-20 0.4635 194 0.5316 77
1993-1994 5-21 0.4581 208 0.5467 62
UD2: You say, ďlast year was the quintessential rough transitional year.Ē I concur. Anthony Grant dismissed, chased-off and disgruntled a bunch of players. I kindaí expected that occurence especially after he did the same thing at Akabama. I think this upcoming year will be a quintessential rebuilding year. The record will be essentially the same as last year. We will do as well as last year, only if Cunningham is a healthy beast all year long and survives with little foul trouble. If he gets hurt or teams figure out a way to get him in foul trouble then our record could suffer. The above comment is not a knock on Grant just an observation of his past at Alabama. I have a colleague at work who is an Alabama alum and he relayed a lot of history on Grant when we first hired him.
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I don't see how we can be worse than last year.

Mikesell, Toppin, Cohill, Matos, Policelli >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis, Kostas, Svo, Pierce

2018-19 Trey, Jordan, Crutch, Josh, >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-18 Trey, Jordan, Crutch, Josh
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I don't see how we can be worse than last year.

Mikesell, Toppin, Cohill, Matos, Policelli >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis, Kostas, Svo, Pierce

2018-19 Trey, Jordan, Crutch, Josh, >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-18 Trey, Jordan, Crutch, Josh
And no Williams and Pierce.
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And no Williams and Pierce.
Haha yea he was so non-existent I forgot him! I had to struggle to remember Pierce. My post is an over simplification but the logic seems sound. I do think the guys coming in are better than the ones we lost (in the aggregate). And I assume we're going to see at least some improvement from the returners (all starters BTW).
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Mikesell, Toppin, Cohill, Matos, Policelli >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis, Kostas, Svo, Pierce

...and Crosby.
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I'm cautiously optimistic for next season. Having 3 experienced returning guards should make a big difference with turnovers and on the defensive end.

The bench is a question mark but there's reason for optimism about the new comers. How good will some of these guys be? I'm not sure but the recruiting info on them doesn't suggest any of them are a big reaches or a huge projects.

To me this season really comes down to how much improvement we see out of Crutcher, Davis and Landers. What is the ceiling for these guys as players? Are Crutcher and Davis a pair of nice guards or do they start to develop into potential all conference caliber guards. Is Trey Landers like Monty Scott where he stays at the same level for most of his career or can he take his game to another level as an upperclassman?

Ryan Mikesell is a guy who's shown flashes of being a pretty good player at this level. See his first game against Southeast Missouri and the Vanderbilt game his sophomore year. As a healthy redshirt junior what is he as a player?

To me at least this season hinges on what these guys turn out to be. If you told me that everything breaks right and the team wins the A10 I could see it. If the team ends up with 16-17 wins I could see that too
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I actually think that if Policelli and Topin can play defense, we will be a tough out and very competitive in the A10.
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I'm cautiously optimistic for next season. Having 3 experienced returning guards should make a big difference with turnovers and on the defensive end.

The bench is a question mark but there's reason for optimism about the new comers. How good will some of these guys be? I'm not sure but the recruiting info on them doesn't suggest any of them are a big reaches or a huge projects.

To me this season really comes down to how much improvement we see out of Crutcher, Davis and Landers. What is the ceiling for these guys as players? Are Crutcher and Davis a pair of nice guards or do they start to develop into potential all conference caliber guards. Is Trey Landers like Monty Scott where he stays at the same level for most of his career or can he take his game to another level as an upperclassman?

Ryan Mikesell is a guy who's shown flashes of being a pretty good player at this level. See his first game against Southeast Missouri and the Vanderbilt game his sophomore year. As a healthy redshirt junior what is he as a player?

To me at least this season hinges on what these guys turn out to be. If you told me that everything breaks right and the team wins the A10 I could see it. If the team ends up with 16-17 wins I could see that too
A very fair and balanced assessment. A few things I would like to contribute to that. We are going to live and die by our defense. Kostas had as many blocks off the bench as our entire quartet of returning starters. As long as he could stay in the game, the guards had some measure of lane intimidation on their side. Who is going to do that this season?
As much as we expect individual improvement from all 3 guards, it's a team game and they can't get in the grill of the opponent consistently without some Flyer between them and the rim.

With regard to ball protection, this is addition by subtraction. DD consistently had as many turnovers as assists. Crutcher was solid, as was Jordan. Trey improved A/TO in A10 play. Josh needs to tighten up his passing. Cohill should be solid there as well.

Example: Trey in ooc had 11 assists vs 22 TO's. In the A10 he was 41 assists vs 35 TO's.

An example of the kind of consistent improvement we hope for. But again, it's a team deal. Players have to come to the ball and be strong. The turnover is not always the thrower's fault.
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Every basketball year is a surprise. Every year is rebuilding. Last year at this time, we all had XW penciled in as a starter and possible star player. Many thought that Cosby would be the default starter and that Kostas would be major contributor. We were wrong. We knew almost nothing about the freshman and little about Trey Landers. This short ,inexperienced team about broke even.

This year we know a lot more about the returning players, but my guess is that what we think we know now will change about ten games into the season. Some of our new players will force themselves into game time. My experience tells that at least one will become a starter.


Last years bench was so ineffective, that a walk-on became one of the first to enter the game. I believe our bench will be much improved. Toppin is tall and appears to have" fire in his belly." Mikesell has experience and, if healthy, is valuable. I know nothing about the incoming freshman and junior college transfers are risky. But this has got to be a great improvement over last years bench both in talent, size and desire.

Let the games begin. I'm excited.
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Here is my first guess at minutes for the year:

PG: Crutcher (30), Cohill (10)
SG: Davis (20), Cohill (10), Matos (10)
SG/SF: Mikesell (15), Landers (10), Davis(5), Matos (5), Policelli (5)
PF: Toppin (15), Landers (15), Policelli (10)
C: Cunningham (30), Toppin (10)

By Player:
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Crutcher (30)
Landers (25)
Toppin (25)
Davis (25)
Cohill (20)
Mikesell (15)
Policelli (15)
Matos (15)

Assuming AG wants to get out and run, I tried to go no more than 30 for anyone. Cunningham/Crutcher are probably better off in the 27 minute range, but I didn't want to get into that math.

Cohill could easily earn more minutes, but when in doubt I leaned on guys we've seen before. Mikesell is a wild card here - not sure if he will have any limitations or how he will look when he gets back on the court.

For now I'll go with starters being: Crutcher, Davis, Landers, Toppin, Cunningham

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Here is my first guess at minutes for the year:

PG: Crutcher (30), Cohill (10)
SG: Davis (20), Cohill (10), Matos (10)
SG/SF: Mikesell (15), Landers (10), Davis(5), Matos (5), Policelli (5)
PF: Toppin (15), Landers (15), Policelli (10)
C: Cunningham (30), Toppin (10)

By Player:
Cunningham (30)
Crutcher (30)
Landers (25)
Toppin (25)
Davis (25)
Cohill (20)
Mikesell (15)
Policelli (15)
Matos (15)

Assuming AG wants to get out and run, I tried to go no more than 30 for anyone. Cunningham/Crutcher are probably better off in the 27 minute range, but I didn't want to get into that math.

Cohill could easily earn more minutes, but when in doubt I leaned on guys we've seen before. Mikesell is a wild card here - not sure if he will have any limitations or how he will look when he gets back on the court.

For now I'll go with starters being: Crutcher, Davis, Landers, Toppin, Cunningham

Feel free to disagree with me - that's half the fun!
I see Crutcher more in the mid 30 mpg range and I would guess Landers will also play more than 30 mpg.
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I see Crutcher more in the mid 30 mpg range and I would guess Landers will also play more than 30 mpg.
Based on talent and competition at the position I agree, the reason I brought them down was under the assumption that we want to get out and run. No way we can expect Crutcher to run a fast paced offense for more than 30 minutes a night.

If we are OK playing slower, then I agree.
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Based on talent and competition at the position I agree, the reason I brought them down was under the assumption that we want to get out and run. No way we can expect Crutcher to run a fast paced offense for more than 30 minutes a night.

If we are OK playing slower, then I agree.
I agree that it seems like AG wants to get up and down the floor which makes sense for Crutcher to play less. But it also seems like AG trusts Crutcher a lot and wants to play the guys he trusts. Plus I feel like Crutcher plays a lot like Scoochie in that he never seems to play too fast even when we are playing fast. Some guys just have the ability to know how to pace themselves better without losing the ability to get up and down the court and Crutcher seems that way to me.
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Here is my first guess at minutes for the year:

PG: Crutcher (30), Cohill (10)
SG: Davis (20), Cohill (10), Matos (10)
SG/SF: Mikesell (15), Landers (10), Davis(5), Matos (5), Policelli (5)
PF: Toppin (15), Landers (15), Policelli (10)
C: Cunningham (30), Toppin (10)

By Player:
Cunningham (30)
Crutcher (30)
Landers (25)
Toppin (25)
Davis (25)
Cohill (20)
Mikesell (15)
Policelli (15)
Matos (15)

Assuming AG wants to get out and run, I tried to go no more than 30 for anyone. Cunningham/Crutcher are probably better off in the 27 minute range, but I didn't want to get into that math.

Cohill could easily earn more minutes, but when in doubt I leaned on guys we've seen before. Mikesell is a wild card here - not sure if he will have any limitations or how he will look when he gets back on the court.

For now I'll go with starters being: Crutcher, Davis, Landers, Toppin, Cunningham

Feel free to disagree with me - that's half the fun!
I think the above allocation is as good as any---through Atlantis, and maybe through ooc.
But not for the whole season. I can't guess beyond ooc, other than the returning players, how all the playing time will play out. I just think the cream will rise to the top and there will be some players that will excel and their contributions will not be denied. A little like Trey's career. It has to be at the expense somebody.
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MNFats, I think you’re underestimating Mikesell. If he is truly healthy he will either be starting or first off the bench and will see much more than 15 min per game. Remember, prior to him having his hip difficulties he was a contributor on 2 NCAA teams.
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TA111 you are absolutely correct!!! Mikesell will be the starting 4 and will play 25 minutes a game if he is healthy! He stronger and bigger than folks want to give credit for??
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MNFats, I think youíre underestimating Mikesell. If he is truly healthy he will either be starting or first off the bench and will see much more than 15 min per game. Remember, prior to him having his hip difficulties he was a contributor on 2 NCAA teams.
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TA111 you are absolutely correct!!! Mikesell will be the starting 4 and will play 25 minutes a game if he is healthy! He stronger and bigger than folks want to give credit for??
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TA111 you are absolutely correct!!! Mikesell will be the starting 4 and will play 25 minutes a game if he is healthy! He stronger and bigger than folks want to give credit for??
Mikesell is an excellent passer and facilitator......Archie ran alot of offense thru him a couple years ago and that was with him coming off a hand injury that really affected his shooting..I remember that game at St Bonnie in 2017 where he looked like a 1st team A10 player getting to the hoop, hitting short jumpers, etc..

Basically, because he was not available last year, he's the one "recruit" that is a wildcard here and with his added strength can be big for UD. Depending on his health and conditioning (which should not be an issue) I can easily see him logging 23-24 mpg....
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is the big guy Toppin, in a lot o f the video?
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That’s Toppin next to Grant right as the video begins. He’s filled out nicely. The reports on him being 6-9, 220 may be accurate.
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MNFats, I think youíre underestimating Mikesell. If he is truly healthy he will either be starting or first off the bench and will see much more than 15 min per game. Remember, prior to him having his hip difficulties he was a contributor on 2 NCAA teams.
I think SDF put a good disclaimer on my post - it's my thoughts to start the year. It becomes very fluid after that based on who's playing well, how guys develop, match ups, etc.

I like Mikesell and hope he contributes. At the same time, he's coming off a couple of surgeries and hasn't played competitive basketball in a while. I definitely see his minutes increasing as the year goes on if he stays healthy.

The real question is - if you give him more than 15 minutes, whose minutes is he taking?

As I thought about the minutes, I started to feel like the talent gap between our best player and worst player may be the smallest gap we've seen in a while. This team lacks a star player, but may end up with 9 guys that can play and compete every night.
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It's every coach's dream to have competition at every position, not just a backup. Josh is the only starter who won't be pushed by the backup.

I would like to see the Red and Blue with Jordan, Jaylen, Josh, Mikesell, and Trey scrimmage against Cohill, Toppin, Matos, Frankie Bowl-of-Jelly, and Ibi Watson
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Thatís Toppin next to Grant right as the video begins. Heís filled out nicely. The reports on him being 6-9, 220 may be accurate.
I was at Cronin today and passed Obi and Ibi in the hall. Obi certainly seems much bigger, more muscular than last year. Both seem taller than in pictures when you stand next to them. Polite young men too.
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Thatís Toppin next to Grant right as the video begins. Heís filled out nicely. The reports on him being 6-9, 220 may be accurate.
Really good size then! Much taller than Josh.
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The real question is - if you give him more than 15 minutes, whose minutes is he taking?

Maybe the question should be - who could take Mikesell's minutes? I see him as a starter.
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Obi One? Dayton announces player numbers for 2018-19 season


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Amazing all the hope/hype for Mikesell. For a kid who has averaged a whopping 1.6 baskets per game, has had considerable physical challenges and won't have played in 20 months, it seems some are expecting a stunning metamorphosis. Hope it happens.
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He is a smart player who will keep the ball from freezing in someones hands. We were short on that at times last year. I see him as a good contributor all around with possibly a better stroke from 3pt this year. He should contribute.
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Mikesell is not the most physically gifted player on the team, but he has a high basketball awareness and his presence on the court will make everyone better. It is also reasonable to expect his personal stats to improve. He showed a lot of promise as a freshmen, then his stats dropped off his sophomore year because he was playing with the hip problem all season. It is reasonable to expect him to make positive contributions without undergoing a stunning metamorphosis.
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Obi and Frankie are both big looking kids, who will give us some size upfront.
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My understanding from a DDN article posted earlier in the season and what other posters have said is that Mikesell is back and moving around at 100% now. So I think we should expect him to be full go next year

He is a guy that experience and has had productive games at the college level. Unless one of the newcomers take the world by storm I'd expect him to play some major minutes

To SDF's point 3 point shooting the DDN article said his hip really hampered his shooting his sophmore year so him being a 33%+ shooter from 3 is very possible
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Jablonski tweeted he was going to do a series of articles. This is the first . Landers Cunningham and Mikesell giving their impressions of the new team.
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Amazing all the hope/hype for Mikesell. For a kid who has averaged a whopping 1.6 baskets per game, has had considerable physical challenges and won't have played in 20 months, it seems some are expecting a stunning metamorphosis. Hope it happens.
There is a lot more to the game than baskets scored. How many baskets did Trey score his freshman year? We have seen Mikesell play and he is a well rounded player. He has two years of experience and as coaches say" you can't teach experience." We all hope and say " if healthy." MS was our first sub last year and the game was just too fast for him. Mikesell will be a quality upgrade.

On the subject of hope and hype, a fan lives on hope and hype, especially in the off season. I need it.
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Last year, Dayton often played the starters 35-plus minutes. It wasnít uncommon for some starters to play all 40 minutes. That didnít help the defense.

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One other big element that was impacted by the non-existent bench was offensive rebounding. I'm pretty sure it was by design to just get back on (defense) and not risk the extra foul trouble and energy expenditure. AM did a similar thing in one of his short bench years.

All of those game elements aside, I'm most looking forward to a season without a gaggle of head-cases sitting on the bench...drawing negative attention. Wouldn't it be awesome to get through a season without some bizarre drama?
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Amazing all the hope/hype for Mikesell. For a kid who has averaged a whopping 1.6 baskets per game, has had considerable physical challenges and won't have played in 20 months, it seems some are expecting a stunning metamorphosis. Hope it happens.
I think you will be disappointed all year long, MD. You want Chris Wright to come walking through those doors.



The rest of us already see what Mikesell is, and is not. Good passer, good ball handler, good shooter, good rebounder, good defensively (particularly positioning), good court awareness, good etc. Great at any one of those things? Probably not even 1, maybe court awareness.


A player with no real holes in his game, despite no exceptional skill in any one area, is a great add to the team.
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If anyone is interested, David Jablonski has links to 3 or 4 interviews (videos) and an article or two on his twitter page.
Interviews are the new Coach Streit, Cunningham, Landers and Mikesell.
JUst scroll down the tweets to find them.
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Trey Landers is my favorite UD player.

He gets it. He will be successful in life.

He has no excuses AND he is concerned about how the team needs to get better.

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I get it, BRob, and I agree with you. It was brilliant.
Make me a 5%-er, too. Great post!
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Thatís Toppin next to Grant right as the video begins. Heís filled out nicely. The reports on him being 6-9, 220 may be accurate.
Physically, Obi reminds me of Terry Ross, Class Of Ď78. Tall and lean, but strong. And, from what I can recall, Terry was a class act, and a good teammate. Obi already has that part down.
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Trey Landers article from a few days ago, don't think it was posted anywhere.
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a couple things I've been thinking about in the positive department for next season

-changes in NCAA rules give coaching staffs increased access to the players over the summer for things like practice. With a young team and several newcomers this can only be a positive

-assuming Davis, Crutcher, Landers and Josh are getting major minutes again they're only going to have better chemistry on the court after playing together a year and knowing the system. Last year AG had to put in a new system and none of these guys had played together before. On court chemistry and just knowing the guys you're playing with is an underrated part of success
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