Saint Joe's Game Thread

[udstevied_D87]

what is going on with our communication on switching on defense? thats two wide open shots in a row on bad switches

[priceg75]

Down 12 at the under-8 timeout. This puppy's over.

[Glassman]

Wow, this is frustrating... Come on Flyers! Let's get back in this!

[jack72]

no one making a basket, and they are letting Oliver, Paul and Ralph shoot all they want.

[shocka43]

Luke, kav, paul..no D.

Inability to get stops outweighs cold shooting.

[priceg75]

And X has cut it to 4 vs. SLU. Oh, the humanity.

[Radar]

_avier down 2

[priceg75]

Ralph has been playing better, but why is he posting up in the corner for 3's vs. the zone?

[Piqua Flyer '66]

I hope the St J game would not lead to "deja vu all over again"
Sorry, but I think I was right.
Good thing is I have 8+ weeks to let my finger nails grow
for Selection Sunday because, as usual, UD cannot play well
enough, consistently, during the season to go to the NCAA
Selection Sunday having a spot in March Madness locked up.
Just hope the bubble does not burst again. We had CJ tonight,
did not at St B.......but another loss on the road. You guys in
your 30s and 40s plenty of have time - my clock is running -
I want to see UD a Sweet 16 team consistently. Maybe with
recruits from Northland and NYC plus two guys sitting out
can get us over the hump.

[Piqua Flyer '66]

on the floor - just not in the scorebook

[Canonball]

Come on guys make a run.

[Canonball]

.... and we'll chase that comment with a t/o.

[jack72]

Saving CJ for the next game??

[anthonycharles]

Ralph has looked lost the last two times he's been on defense. The first time was in zone and it's hard to look lost playing zone.

[Buster]

we look really slow tonight. Not much energy, I wonder if they've been hitting those cheesesteaks again.

[Radar]

We panic very very well.

[udx2]

Threw up a prayer and he made it. Everything falling for the Hawks.

[jack72]

with that fluke 3 it is officially over. We suck tonight

[priceg75]

Another letdown game. At least we weren't playing Fordham tonight.

[udstevied_D87]

perplexes me how after draining a buzzer 3 pointer to end the 1st half that momentum doesnt carry over

[FlyerFanatic21]

For as hard as they seem to work in many other games, it is definitely not there tonight. It is all day in the paint for SJU.

[Canonball]

I give. 1 step forward 3 back tonight. Prayers going in for the bad guys and the good guys just turn it over half asleep.

[shocka43]

Obviously AM wants them to show balls on the D end...Ralph is earning it tonight on D...more than Luke.

Paul is a disappearing act.

Cold shooting.

Not utilizing the post.

[jack72]

What is it about the basket on that end? Lots of clunkers from both teams. The ball comes off very high off the rim.

[rasta man]

think i've been seeing this for over 30 years now, a good win at home followed by a crap performance on the road, when was the last time we put together 3 good road perfomances in league play?

[udstevied_D87]

Originally Posted by rasta man think i've been seeing this for over 30 years now, a good win at home followed by a crap performance on the road, when was the last time we put together 3 good road perfomances in league play?

i just see it as the a-10 beating up on each other year after year

[frisco flyer]

Too many missing parts tonight.

[jack72]

PW officially is lost in space

[VirgM]

I think PW is like 0-9 or 0-10. What is that all about?

[Radar]

Kavs picks up man at half court and gets back-doored for dunk and foul...CYO play

[Piqua Flyer '66]

gets career high vs UD

[Canonball]

Joe's shooting 70 something percent from the floor in the second. This is awful.

[rasta man]

warm up the bus

time to go to the 3 alley pub, should be able to get the owner to open up early

[Sea Bass]

Originally Posted by Radar Paul's not with it...

been that way most of the year.

[Piqua Flyer '66]

AREN'T YOU JUST THRILLED TO SPEND YOUr GOOD $$$$$ AND GO SEE THE FLYERS TAKE ON 1-15 RI on Sat?

[Flyer69ers]

sad. just very sad.

[Levelbest]

Originally Posted by jack72 PW officially is lost in space

Much of the team is tonite. Can't win if you can't shoot and play d. BBall 101.

[udstevied_D87]

let down game after 2 big games. arggg

in perspective...we're still better off than i thought we'd be at this point. lets get em next game

[Sea Bass]

reminds of the Buffalo/Murray St games. SJU came out with a purpose in the 2nd half, Flyers were bystanders.

I am not drinking the NCAA koolaid. This team can lose to anyone on any night when the effort isn't there.

[FlyerGuyer]

Ouch. Just flat got beat tonight. This team will eventually have to figure out how to win on the road if they want to dance this year...

[Piqua Flyer '66]

don't you think?
Oh, they are playing a UD team on the road

[Levelbest]

Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic21 For as hard as they seem to work in many other games, it is definitely not there tonight. It is all day in the paint for SJU.

The inconsistency is baffling.

[Buster Goode]

sigh....

Seen this movie before

[anthonycharles]

Oh well. I've been saying all year, win all of our home games and go no worse then 4-4 on the road in conference and we're dancing. That would put us at 22-8 going into the conference tourney. Looking at the schedule, this can be done. All is not lost. I just hope the loss at home to Buffalo doesn't haunt us.

We got owned inside tonight and our defense was an absolute joke. Learn from it and move on. We need these next two games at home.

[Sea Bass]

also the inside domination of the SBU game. Couldn't stop Nicholson and Cook, no answer for Roberts and Aiken.

[Radar]

be at the Cronin center and have the sneakers on at 6am boys!

[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by udstevied_D87 let down game after 2 big games. arggg in perspective...we're still better off than i thought we'd be at this point. lets get em next game

Yeah, but I'd rather win the big ones and lose this one than the other way around. Better to win them all, of course...

[shocka43]

X down 6...4 to go

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by Radar be at the Cronin center and have the sneakers on at 6am boys!

Actually as soon as the shuttle gets to campus from the airport...been there done that...not fun. It's called an attention getter.

[Piqua Flyer '66]

How can you "wish" us being .500 on the road.
More likely not and 8-8 in the league.
"deja vue all over again"
Let your fingernails grow for Selection Sunday.
Do I sound ****ed?
YOU ARE CORRECT

[ScottyExpress]

Horrible, Archie got schooled by PM. Very sad effort.

[udstevied_D87]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 How can you "wish" us being .500 on the road. More likely not and 8-8 in the league. "deja vue all over again" Let your fingernails grow for Selection Sunday. Do I sound ****ed? YOU ARE CORRECT

i dont know even what u say anymore

[NYCFLYER]

Originally Posted by piqua flyer '66 aren't you just thrilled to spend your good $$$$$ and go see the flyers take on 1-15 ri on sat?

yes i am. Get over it.

[lhsgolf19]

Oh well... regroup... 2 very winnable games coming up at home.

Quick turnaround and play URI on Saturday... Shake it off. They know they did not play well, they will recover... even with this loss we are still 1st in the conference!

[kiefaber455]

Originally Posted by Levelbest The inconsistency is baffling.

What inconsistency? UD usually sucks on the road in conference games.

[Sea Bass]

Originally Posted by Levelbest The inconsistency is baffling.

not really, we've seen it numerous times this year. They don't show the consistency of a good team. They play good 2-3 game stretches and then drop a turd.

[shocka43]

IMO this isn't a get pi**ed outing as much as it is a frustrating outing.

WE obviously have playmakers that have shown they can get it done. What we don't have, is a lick of senior leadership.

PW was in a position to go after a JP turnover in the first half and simply stood up and made no attempt to get the ball or hustle back on D. That is a problem. It is as if he was running a suicide and was in front of the time and took his time on the turn back to the line.

What is promising, is that you have a guy like Ralph come out and bust his hump. That says a lot about the mentality of the upperclass players. Luke plays half assed defense. Hence the reason that AM subbed Ralph for him after some missed assignments.

Yes, we were cold shooting, and hot shooting fixes the game. But, when you don't utilize the post properly, force perimeter shots, play on your heels, and never get set and established, your shots won't fall.

Wouldn't have been near as frustrating if it was a close game and they went down fighting. They didn't go down fighting = lack of an upperclassman taking charge. This will be a trend until AM allows the upperclass players to be leaders, versus disciples of the coach. I think this will happen under AM, but he isn't able to get it out of guys that are already conditioned to be a yes man.

[jumpin' joe]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 How can you "wish" us being .500 on the road. More likely not and 8-8 in the league. "deja vue all over again" Let your fingernails grow for Selection Sunday. Do I sound ****ed? YOU ARE CORRECT

****ed?

Do you mean boozed, stoned, stewed, bombed, loaded, looped, soused, or all of the above?

[chicago92]

AM didn't get schooled, we shot 34% from the floor...if we shoot 45% we are right in the game @ a very difficult place to play.

[T-Bone 84]

Was listening to Larry & Bucky, watching the web feed, toggling over to the ESPN website for updates on SLU vs X every so often, and eating dinner, all at the same time. Don't know that there's much more to say. Most of our team didn't show up. Their team all did. Most of our team couldn't hit shots to save their lives. They got too many easy shots, and even their "prayers" went in. Oh, well, at least my daughter (a SLU grad) may get to celebrate tonight.

Regroup guys. A VERY winnable game Saturday.

[FlyerGuyer]

On the bright side, at least Eggs lost at home tonight.

[jumpin' joe]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer On the bright side, at least Eggs lost at home tonight.

and still tied for first in the A-10

and the Women beat Richmond in OT 81-78.

but, I still feel crummy...

[anthonycharles]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 How can you "wish" us being .500 on the road. More likely not and 8-8 in the league. "deja vue all over again" Let your fingernails grow for Selection Sunday. Do I sound ****ed? YOU ARE CORRECT

Don't have a stroke on me now. We go 4-4 on the road in conference, and go 8-0 at home in conference, we are 12-4 in conference and 22-8 overall with good wins against the top 50 in the RPI. Did I miss something? Was this a one game season? Is our season now over because we lost @ St. Joe's. Feel free to jump off the bandwagon. I'm staying on because I believe in this coaching staff.

Relax son.

[UDDoug]

Originally Posted by anthonycharles We go 4-4 on the road in conference, and go 8-0 at home in conference, we are 12-4 in conference.

The math works. But not sure I see 4-4 on the road. 1-2 right now, with away games at X and SLU. If you don't bag one of those, have to sweep Fordham, Duquesne and Richmond. The 8-0 at home seems much more likely than 4-4 on the road.

My gut says 3-5 and 8-0 tops. Downside is 2-6 and 7-1.

[jumpin' joe]

Originally Posted by UDDoug The math works. But not sure I see 4-4 on the road. 1-2 right now, with away games at X and SLU. If you don't bag one of those, have to sweep Fordham, Duquesne and Richmond. The 8-0 at home seems much more likely than 4-4 on the road. My gut says 3-5 and 8-0 tops. Downside is 2-6 and 7-1.

Listen to your gut. I like what it has to say. Can't say the same about your downside.

[TA111]

We are OK. One bad half doesn't make or break a season. We still have the most top 50 wins in the country. Winning in the road in conference is tough. Just ask Missouri and W. Virginia which both lost to really bad teams tonight.

[jumpin' joe]

Originally Posted by TA111 We are OK. One bad half doesn't make or break a season. We still have the most top 50 wins in the country. Winning in the road in conference is tough. Just ask Missouri and W. Virginia which both lost to really bad teams tonight.

I agree with all you points except we don't have the most top 50 wins in the country. Baylor has 7 and we are tied for second with a bunch of other teams at 5 wins. Just looked at the RPI and Xavier is not even considered a top 50 win. They are #51 now.

[FlyerGuyer]

...and Alabama goes down again to make that win look not as good and hurt our RPI a little more...

[TA111]

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe I agree with all you points except we don't have the most top 50 wins in the country. Baylor has 7 and we are tied for second with a bunch of other teams at 5 wins. Just looked at the RPI and Xavier is not even considered a top 50 win. They are #51 now.

X will get in the top 50-count on it. And I'll take second most top 50 in the country any day.

[UDDoug]

I would be very surprised to have the second most top 50 wins come selection sunday. I don't expect to have as many as UD has today by then.

[Sea Bass]

to me they aren't an NCAA caliber team. We will see, that is why they play the games.

[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer ...and Alabama goes down again to make that win look not as good and hurt our RPI a little more...

Seton Hall is also dropping like a rock...

[Bill Elwood]

Originally Posted by kiefaber455 What inconsistency? UD usually sucks on the road in conference games.

except for just three weeks ago back in Philly vs. Temple, whom most folks would say is a much better team than SJU!?!?

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Bill Elwood except for just three weeks ago back in Philly vs. Temple, whom most folks would say is a much better team than SJU!?!?

If the Owls are at full strength (which they weren't when we beat them), think they are better than both UD and SJU. But of course none of that conjecture makes a bit of difference when we step on the court.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer If the Owls are at full strength (which they weren't when we beat them), think they are better than both UD and SJU. But of course none of that conjecture makes a bit of difference when we step on the court.

Sounds like you are using the "eye" test. That Owl team was good enough to beat Duke.