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Old 01-13-2014, 09:26 AM
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Fordham Game Thread

Time to shake off the loss on Saturday and get back at it Wednesday Night in the Bronx. Hopefully the real DMO shows up at Fordham.

All of you jumping off the bandwagon after 1 game in the A13... chill... There is still 15 freaking games left lol... I Still Believe and you should too!

Potential Starting Lineup:

G Mandell Thomas 6'2" 185 SO Rochester, NY
G Bryan Smith 6'2" 195 JR Brooklyn, NY
G Branden Frazier 6'3" 170 SR Brooklyn, NY
G Jon Severe 6'3" 186 FR Brooklyn, NY
F Ryan Rhoomes 6'8" 235 SO South Jamaica, NY

Go Flyers! Let's get a Road win in New York before we head off to Richmond!
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:31 AM
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This is a 'must-win' game...return with an 'L' and - injuries, excuses and ifs aside - Archie will be on the hot seat.
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Four guards. The glass is more than half full: this will be a tough match up for Fordham. Oliver and Pierre need to dominate their smaller guys. We need to stop the penetration and give Fordham their fifth straight loss.

Severe is one of the better freshman in the nation at 21 ppg. Frazier is close behind in scoring. We should see some floor time for Kyle Davis and Pollard.
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This is a 'must-win' game...return with an 'L' and - injuries, excuses and ifs aside - Archie will be on the hot seat.
Archie will be on the hot seat? Really? I will be shocked if Archie isn't back next year.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:43 AM
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I never said he wouldn't be back...only that he'd be on the hot seat...meaning more and more of us will be watching him game-by-game not season-by-season.

We've taken a couple steps forward this season with road wins at Ole Miss and GTech as well as the Maui Tournament...and we've taken quite a few steps backward, too. A loss at Fordham would be a major leap backwards and would raise questions that demand explanations...thus, the hot seat.
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Fordham has some volume shooters, but they don't play a lick of defense. I will be curious to see how Dayton defends. I expect them to come out with something to prove after the STL debacle. Take the points and bet the over.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:25 PM
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SJU is a great example of why you need a star player if you want to be at the top of the conference. Two best players in the A10, IMO, are Williams (UMass) and Evans (SLU) and it is not a coincidence that they may be the best two teams. Flyers have not have a POY type player in a long time.
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Comparing Fordham to Dayton (and how they rank against the rest of Division I) . . .

Fordham and Dayton are both weak in field goal percent defense:

Dayton (200th) . . . . opponents shoot 43.8%
Fordham (225th) . . . opponents shoot 44.4%

And both teams are foul prone:

Dayton (213th) . . . . 19.9 fouls/game
Fordham (216th) . . . 19.9 fouls/game

Dyton shoots the ball much better than Fordham:

Dayton (64th) . . . . 47.2%
Fordham (315th) . . 40.8%

Dayton makes 6.6 threes/game to Fordham's 7.8 threes/game, but shoots a much better three point percentage:

Dayton (50th) . . . . 38.0%
Fordham (222nd) . . 32.5%

Both teams score the ball . . .

Dayton (87th) . . . . 76.6 points/game
Fordham (75th) . . . 77.1 points/game

. . . but Fordham is very weak in scoring defense:

Dayton (82nd) . . . . 66.8 opponents points/game
Fordham (309th) . . 77.7 opponents points/game

Dayton has a slight edge in turnover margin:

Dayton (82nd) . . . . +1.8 turnovers/game
Fordham (91st) . . . +1.6 turnovers/game

The Flyers have a sizable advantage in rebounding margin

Dayton (39th) . . . . +5.8 rebounds/game
Fordham (208th) . . +0.3 rebounds/game

And while Fordham is a much better free-throw shooting team . . .

Dayton (260th) . . . 66.7%
Fordham (45th) . . . 73.7%

. . . they don't shoot as many. Made free throws/game:

Dayton . . . . . . . 16.1/game
Fordham . . . . . . 16.7/game.

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Old 01-15-2014, 12:38 AM
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I dont think Ive ever seen the Flyers play well at Fordham. Every single game is a Freddy Kreuger movie. The only good news is we seem to eek many of them out after things look hairy with about 10min left.
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I dont think Ive ever seen the Flyers play well at Fordham. Every single game is a Freddy Kreuger movie. The only good news is we seem to eek many of them out after things look hairy with about 10min left.
Amazingly, we have won 7 straight against Fordham, with our last loss being on 04-Jan-2006. Last year we won by 45 at home, the year before we won by 2 on the road. Since 1949-50, we are 23-5 overall against Fordham, with 4 losses on the road, and 1 at home.
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:53 AM
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I dont think Ive ever seen the Flyers play well at Fordham. Every single game is a Freddy Kreuger movie. The only good news is we seem to eek many of them out after things look hairy with about 10min left.
It is not just there. Didn't Lowery drive the full length of the court with something like 10 seconds left to beat them at home a few years back? If we didn't win that game, I am not sure we would have made the NCAAs and knocked off WVU.
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Just a reminder, Archie said neither Kavs or Gavs will play tonight... So it looks like there will be a huge dose of Columbus Northland lol
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Just a reminder, Archie said neither Kavs or Gavs will play tonight... So it looks like there will be a huge dose of Columbus Northland lol
Why not?
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Why not?
Both have a concussion


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Injured Flyers Matt Kavanaugh and Alex Gavrilovic did not make the trip to Fordham. @daytonmbb

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If anyone needs an online stream, the feed on FlyerNews.com just went online. http://www.flyernews.com/fn_wp/dayton-fordham/
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UMass/GMU game is dragging along and is very close. The online stream may not catch the beginning of our game, Just be our luck it will go OT. When you have the 11:00 am game you don't have that problem.
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Wow, according to gametracker... Jon Severe isn't starting... If he doesn't play that is huge!
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UMass/GMU game is dragging along and is very close. The online stream may not catch the beginning of our game, Just be our luck it will go OT. When you have the 11:00 am game you don't have that problem.
UMass just had what looked like a terrible call go against them. Guy driving and a blocking call, but the defender was squarely between the guy and the basket the whole time.

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OK, I only caught the end of whatever channel 7 scrolled across bottom of the screen here in good old Dayton. What is the problem /excuse with no game on?
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Wow, what a surprise...channel 7 is having technical difficulties getting the feed from New York. So sick of channel 7's constant problems when it comes to covering our Flyers
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OK, I only caught the end of whatever channel 7 scrolled across bottom of the screen here in good old Dayton. What is the problem /excuse with no game on?
The generic 'technical difficulties'.
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OK, I only caught the end of whatever channel 7 scrolled across bottom of the screen here in good old Dayton. What is the problem /excuse with no game on?
Technical difficulties, will join the game as soon as possible, lol. I know, it's pretty shocking.
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Going between the UMass -- GMU game while waiting for the UD game and the Georgetown game.

Georgetown was up 17 in the second half and lost by 13. What a meltdown. Thought that they wanted to hold on just to win and gave it up.
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Great start!
5-0 Fordham after losing the tip and a Dayton TO (turnover). Now a Dayton TO (timeout).
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Incompetence

is on display again with WHIO-TV unable to figure out how to bring the telecast to Dayton as promised. Incompetence on the court as well as UD is down 7-2 at the outset.
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WHIO is pathetic. The Flyers are pathetic. Grr....
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I think ch.7 is waiting on the feed from SNY and they are still showing the UMass game.
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The stream linked above is working.
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stream is running but its replaying from the beginning. just awful. WHIO is trash
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If anyone needs an online stream, the feed on FlyerNews.com just went online. http://www.flyernews.com/fn_wp/dayton-fordham/

2 minutes of game video and then endless ads...waste of time!!!
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Stream is now replaying 20 minutes into the past.

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stream is now working, but they are starting the game from the beginning, not joining in progress. I think it will be the radio feed at least until halftime.
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The stream linked above is working.
Well - it was working. Now it's a replay from the beginning apparently. Now on the pregame.
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Guys here is a stream

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17-14 Fordham.
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Two bad possessions by JR. He needs to be quicker under the basket and not wait for the entire Fordham defense to converge.
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WHIO finally has game on, and the worse **** picture I have seen since 1982. Pathetic. Video feed on my computer 10x better
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Pollard with a great block. I think we'll see a lot of blocks from him for the next 3 1/2 yrs.
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Don't be so hard on HIO, guys. The "technical difficulties" at the start was because the UMass game on SNY ran long. HIO was relying on SNY for the feed and they were showing the other tilt. The going back to the start of the game part on the web stream was CollegeInsiders not HIO
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It sounds like a lot of people in this thread need to update to DirecTV. I am watching the game on SNY in crystal clear HD. Looks great.
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Don't be so hard on HIO, guys. The "technical difficulties" at the start was because the UMass game on SNY ran long. HIO was relying on SNY for the feed and they were showing the other tilt. The going back to the start of the game part on the web stream was CollegeInsiders not HIO
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If you were in Dayton to see the absolutely terrible quality picture they are giving us, you would not be so quick to defend.

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I love how this game is going now. They are taking very tough shots and making them, but we are taking easy shots. If the defense keep it up, we will start separating from these guys any minute
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KP with a nice offensive/defensive finish to the half. Unfortunately he couldn't get a second block in 1.2 seconds.
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Oliver, Sanford, and the 3 freshmen on the floor together. That is a line up I never thought I would see.
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Don't be so hard on HIO, guys. The "technical difficulties" at the start was because the UMass game on SNY ran long. HIO was relying on SNY for the feed and they were showing the other tilt. The going back to the start of the game part on the web stream was CollegeInsiders not HIO
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Outplaying them in every facet except rebounding. We gotta fix that in the second half.
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The UMass game had nothing to with it. The technical difficulties were going on well past the end of that game. After WHIO couldn't work them out, they put on the web stream instead.
I caught the beginning live with the online stream. If I could get it I'm not sure why they couldn't. I did have the weird jump back to tip off problem, but otherwise the streaming look better than most games I've watched on WHIO when they are at the arena. And I'm streaming from a computer to the tv.
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They only have one big guy and he is eating our lunch. Scott and Robinson need to grow a set, box out and rebound and play D.
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Pollard gave us big first half minutes. By my math, he's now 5-26 at the FT line though. I doubt the NCAA keeps such stats, but my guess is thats the worst FT% in the nation minimum 25 attempts.
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I caught the beginning live with the online stream. If I could get it I'm not sure why they couldn't. I did have the weird jump back to tip off problem, but otherwise the streaming look better than most games I've watched on WHIO when they are at the arena. And I'm streaming from a computer to the tv.
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