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Old 12-03-2017, 09:16 PM
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Wow 15-2 run... UD within 8
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No, the O'Brien teams were much worse, actually.
Much much worse.
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Somehow UD is within 10. It may have something to do with Miss. St. not being very good either.
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Within 5 - still fighting.
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Cut it to 5 and they hit 2 deep 3s. Now down 9 with balll.

2nd 3 in particular was a very low percentage shot.
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Yes, the OB teams were worse. Think about losing to schools like Alaska-Anchorage, Missouri (Rolla or St. Louis). Our Flyers of that era achieved that level of success. In general, the talent level was less than necessary which was combined with coaching abilities that were severely lacking. We have become accustomed to having our team compete every game and so far this season, the Flyers are having trouble meeting that standard. It's hard to lower expectations for any team that represents UD.
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Darrell trips going through the elevator screen leading to turnover #20
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Dayton now on receiving end positively of terrible calls. Crutcher bailed out.
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It has been really, really ugly, but I must admit that there is something to be said for a group that appears completely out of a contest, yet battles back. I think it says a little something about the coach and upper class men leadership.
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20 turnovers.
40 points

I dont believe I have seen that ratio from us before. And if I did, I probably erased it from memory.

Time for a nightcap.
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Fighting so hard... Down 51-46 with 9:50 left
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How is Dayton only down 5 with 9:47 to go!?!?!?
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Yes, the OB teams were worse. Think about losing to schools like Alaska-Anchorage, Missouri (Rolla or St. Louis). Our Flyers of that era achieved that level of success. In general, the talent level was less than necessary which was combined with coaching abilities that were severely lacking. We have become accustomed to having our team compete every game and so far this season, the Flyers are having trouble meeting that standard. It's hard to lower expectations for any team that represents UD.
Actually, it was U. of Missouri - Kansas City. They blew out the Flyers.
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I never saw a Jim O'Brien team but is this what they looked like?
I second TommyGola’s comment. JOB’s teams only ran 1 half court set: pick and roll at the top of the key. It was fugly!
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How is Dayton only down 5 with 9:47 to go!?!?!?
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How is Dayton only down 5 with 9:47 to go!?!?!?
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Shooting over 80% from floor in 2nd half
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Man what an effort in the 2nd half
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This type of determination to make a comeback, after being on the verge of a blowout, was not something that OB teams did, so there is hope.
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And 1 for Jordan, would have cut it to 2. Joke of a charge
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Jeez we are having our chances... 53-46 MSU with 7:10 left
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Had several opportunities. Mississippi State can give this to us despite the TOs.
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Really and call on Jordans bucket.the defender was clearly moving when he left the ground.
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Crutcher pull up 3 with 25 seconds on shot clock

STOP THE FLOATERS, STOP THE PULL UP 3s, STOP THE 25 FOOT 3s. CRUTCHER PLEASE
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What a sh1t call on JD’s layin- no way that defender was even close to being set. Home town cooking refs
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Actually, it was U. of Missouri - Kansas City. They blew out the Flyers.
In fact, they blew out the Flyers in the Arena. I was at that game. The game ended something like 82-57. Brother Fitz was one of the few spectators in the "prime seats" toward the end of the game. That was the lowest point in UD's basketball history.
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Offensive foul call on Jordan Davis was B.S. They showed the replay, and the defender’s feet weren’t even close to set when Davis left his feet.
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John in the game for Jalen to give him a breather... please be smart
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Josh at the line for the 1-1. He has been struggling there.
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You can't stop the game to put a shoe back on!!! Are you kidding me???
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Crosby needs to sit forever. I have lost all faith in him.
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Crosby almost immediately with an out of control driving spinning turnover.
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You can't stop the game to put a shoe back on!!! Are you kidding me???
And that was the REF that called the timeout!!! Un f u c k i n g real
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Looking much better when they push the ball - particularly after D rebounds. Of course, it helps when the other teams turns the ball over a ton as well.
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The Flyers have definitely learned how to create turnovers. Something they struggled with in all previous games and even the first half of this game. Steals give you cheap buckets!
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Turnover #24 for Miss St.

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Very bad play by Darrell. Out of control with the ball and went way too early. He needs to learn to pass when double teamed.
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Started the drive to the hoop way too early- early xmas gift to MSU- they definitely did not deserve to win
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Tough one. Great comeback as they had chances to push the ball more but when they have to play half court offense (like the last set) it's painful to watch.
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Effectively had 2 possessions to win the game, and we get:

1.) Out of a timeout can't do any better than a long 3
2.) With the ball and a timeout, don't use it and turn it over

So we don't use the timeout, also Cunningham doesn't touch the ball. AG have some 'splaining to do.
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As disappointed as I was early in the second half, I appreciate the team persevering and not just continuing the first 23 minutes of incessant turnovers and fouls.
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We played three freshmen most of the second half and came all the way back from a 21 point deficit. A loss but all is not lost.
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Someone else pointed we had a foul to give. Again, something you can remind a guy of during a timeout...
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Very bad play by Darrell. Out of control with the ball and went way too early. He needs to learn to pass when double teamed.
But that's what AG told him to do.

No excuse for AG not taking a timeout to set up a play.
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Proud of the young guys and their defense getting back into this game. Don't know if I trust this set on the floor to grind out a bucket without calling a timeout and setting something up...

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Darrell was driving with his weaker left hand. Ball got up and away from him.
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Great effort by the guys on the floor. Needed a timeout.
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But that's what AG told him to do.

No excuse for AG not taking a timeout to set up a play.
He's coached for to long to let this happen, AG phucked up big time
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Can't remember the last time a UD team ever was a good FT shooting team
Archie's first season team averaged 77.7 percent(that season we had 4 starers shoot over 80 percent(Kavs, Dillard, CJ, and Paul Williams, with Parker and DMO over 70 percent off the bench. Benson was the starter with under 70 percent but missed most of season). So far, this year ranks 2nd between then and now at 72.8(before tonight's game).
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How fitting we lose on a turnover. When DD dribbled over Crutch needed to rotate his defender away from the ball. Freshman mistake and senior error

Could not be happier with the second half effort. Some very good defense and rebounding. We will build on that one. Glad to see Cunningham came alive. Kostas is lost on floor awareness. Crutcher is a stud. Matej looks better every game. If Williams can play like a junior, we may have a chance.
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Got to say that I don’t see Mississippi State as that good a team despite its 7-0 record. This was one of their tougher games.

Glad to see that we were able to play hard after going down 21 but we had a golden opportunity for finish the job in an away game against a previously unbeaten team.

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Just told my buddy via text message...this type of in game SNAFU not calling a timeout with 3 freshman on the floor for a last look is what scares me. AG isn't a new coach. He will learn from this be he should know better. Worst case scenario it's a wash. At least there is some clock discipline instilled in the timeout and a set call.
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I blame neither one of them. AG should have called a TO to set something up.

Instead he see DD with the ball and starts waving guys into spots to just let DD go 1 on 1. It seemed to me like it was a set the players weren't expecting and were confused by. You can't expect guys to do something at crunch time that they haven't practiced. A timeout would have eliminated that problem
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50 turnovers tonight. Figgie needs to tell us when the last time Dayton played in a game with 50 combined pukes. If you have the answer, Ill tweet it out.
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50 turnovers tonight. Figgie needs to tell us when the last time Dayton played in a game with 50 combined pukes. If you have the answer, Ill tweet it out.
And if you get Figgie's attention, the last time we had a full game with zero assists and 7 turnovers from our PGs?
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When was the last time we were below 0.500 after seven games? 2006?
1994-95 - 3-4.

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20 turnovers.
40 points

I dont believe I have seen that ratio from us before. And if I did, I probably erased it from memory.

Time for a nightcap.
26 turnovers, 59 pts = 44% of pts are turnovers
Nov 21, 2005 - Miami (Ohio) - 26 turnovers, 42 pts =62% (highest since 00-01 season)
Nov 27, 2010 - Cincinnati - 16 turnovers, 34 pts = 47% (last time 44% or higher)

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Since 00-01, no. Since 00-01, most is 48 total turnovers against Georgia Tech, Nov 19, 2009.

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