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A-10 Final vs. Xavier

Stakes are high today as rivals Dayton and Xavier meet for the A-10 Tournament title and an automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. Dayton has won the last 2 and is look for a 3rd consecutive and 7th total, while Xavier has not won since 2001. In the last 20 matches between the two teams Dayton has a 16-4 advantage, a 9-0 advantage at Frericks, and a 7-2 advantage under Coach Sheffield. However, understand Dayton was actually outscored at Frericks in 2009 so don't count Xavier out in Dayton.

Dayton is coming off a dominating performance against the #5 seed Duquesne where they out-hit the Dukes .439 to .041, out-blocked the Dukes 9 to 2, and out-aced the Dukes 5-0. Rachel Krabacher and Yvonne Marten led the Flyers with 15 and 12 kills respectively while Shayne Brown had 8 kills. Ally Morey had 4 service aces and no errors. Xavier on the other hand hit .188 and held Andrea Beaty and a potent SLU attack to .108.

Keys for some Flyer success and ultimately an A-10 title will be keeping Ame White in front of the service line because she can really disrupt the offense and force the passing to be pretty poor. Red Scare and home court advantage could be important here. Additionally, it was surprising but Xavier's Libero seemed to struggle last night. Personally, I would hit towards her and Brown and keep the ball away from White. Relatively same on the serve, try to serve towards Brown and Rougraff. Both the teams know each other and know how to game plan, so bet on the Flyers hit pct to decrease from yesterday and buckle up for a good match.

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Dayton leads 5-1
Ally Morey strong serves towards Brown Xavier completely out of system
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X 1st timeout in the first set.
Yvonne continuing to serve to Brown
Yvonne had a nice pass as well in the back row.
Red Scare is full with Flyers and 4 guys in Gumby outfits.
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Xavier got only one point during Ame White's serve and passed well both times.
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Dayton leads mid-way through set 1 14-8
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I had to get wheel bearings not too long ago. Takes a while. I'll do what I can.

Xavier service error. Dayton leads 17-12
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Huge block by Z and Shayne right after a big dig. Great Defense for the Flyers 19-12
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Block by X's Ame White (not sure if any one else assisted)
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Xavier's 2nd timeout
Dayton up 22-18

Yvonne finished a X overpass and then Dayton block bounced off the sliding Xavier attacker.
Ame White's last service run only lasted one dangerous jump serve.
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Kill from Kray
Dayton wins set 1 25-22
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Dayton leads in 2nd 4-2
2 kills from MC
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Xavier's camera has a light that is bothering the Flyers and someone asked to have it covered.
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Xavier playing good D.
Leads 8-6
Aubree Smith serving
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Z Hannan had the best kill I have seen from her
She was pumped!
X up 9-8
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Yvonne Ace
Tied at 11
Announcers just said the Dayton servings are targeting Rougraff and Brown.
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Another Yvonne Ace
SE by Rougraff
Dayton up 14-11
X timeout

I was happy to see Yvonne simply play and pass in the back row, but her serve has been huge towards the right side line.
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Another great serve by Yvonne, then great Yvonne pass and Kill by Kray
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Xavier swing goes long
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Alex Smith's attack hits the pole and out of bounds
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Huge kill by Hannan
Dayton up 21-13
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Yvonne Marten kill and UD takes set 2.
Dayton wins 25-16 and is up 2-0
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So far Xavier has done a good job of stopping Rach Kray holding her to hitting .105 but other players have stepped up. Z has gotten 3 kills on 4 attempts and made then count. MC is .538 and Yvonne close behind at .429. Dayton has also done a much better job than SLU of limiting Ame White. Dayton has passed very well on her serves and not let her disrupt their offense.

For Dayton, they need to have some better defense against White (.571) and Matia(.500). Yvonne and Morey have both served well. Only one service error for the Flyers and 5 for Xavier. Play and atmosphere have been top notch. Despite the 2 set lead both of these teams are good. Have to admit Xavier's comeback in the first was impressive, just too late.
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Kray just found the floor 6' from the net along the far side line. IMPRESSIVE!
5-4 Dayton in 3rd
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Xavier's Brown got a back row kill
X up 7-6
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Thanks for updates, good gals winning. So far two struts with springs, sway bars and wheel bearings....$$$ ouch.
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Kill by Selsky
X up 12-10
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Vorherr serves into the antenna
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Dayton SE
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Xavier leads 19-15
UD will use their 2nd timeout
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Shayne kill
Paige serving
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Dunaway tools off the block
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Xavier hits the ball beyond the antenna.
Dayton down 21-19
Yvonne has been serving well all night and she is the one serving now
X takes their first time out
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Xavier leads 24-23 but uses their 2nd timeout
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I lost the video, so I don't know what happened.
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Xavier wins set 3 25-23.
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Lost the feed again.
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That would be very good for the A-10 and very good for UD.
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X with an early 4-3 lead. WHite to serve
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Block by Z and Selsky
Dayton down 7-6

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UD down 12-11
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Another block
Tied at 12
by Yvonne and Megan

Followed by another block by YM and MC!!!!!
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Announcers Shane and Mandy said the A-10 commissione, Bernadette McGlade, is in attendance.
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tally another block for Yvonne and Megan
Ally is serving

Nice rally
Ame white gets the kill
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White serving, she has a SE
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Dayton wins at the net
Huge did by Paige on this point
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All tourney team:

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Made it back to the hotel for set 4 with UD ahead 16-13. At least got to see the winning points.

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Should be next Sunday
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I would guess 6 PM ET Probably on ESPNU like it has been

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Passing is always key in a vball match but it is even more important when playing xavier. I consider them a tremendous passing team and they need to be because of how low their sets are. I would guess that we won 75% of the points where the first pass was ten feet off the net but when the pass was tight to the net we had a lot of trouble closing up blocks. Great win and nice to clinch an ncaa berth.

Kelly did a great job at the chalk talk as usual going through the strategy. Some of the things we did very well but others we seemed to get away from later in the match. And one strategy changed pretty quickly due to an adjustment by xavier.
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All tourney team:

X's Ame White
X's Aubrey Smith
X's Sarah Brown
UD's Megan Campbell
UD's Rachel Krabacher
UD's Yvonne Marten
UD's Sam Selsky

Tourney MVP: Yvonne Marten
Good atmosphere today. I was shocked Paige did not make All Tourney. From my seat, she might have been the MVP as well. She had two very solid games, whereas Marten had trouble finishing today and Selsky did not have a great passing game tonight as opposed to being spot-on last night.

Still a very good win. It was closer than the score might indicate. The difference in set one was the 8-1 start. After that XU out-pointed us but we just held on. In set two, Marten's serving that picked on XU's #16 rattled off about 6-7 straight points. Again, beyond that, the set was even. In the third set our passing was very poor and our net defense was non-existent. I bet we went almost 40 points without a block point at the net. Xavier was just getting points left and right by hitting balls off the hands of our blockers -- oftentimes not even really aiming for the court, just the hands. We had trouble posting any defense at all at the net until the middle of the fourth set.

Set four we got a couple breaks. Double tap, antenna, service error. Then battled to a 4-5pt lead at 18-13 and held on for the win. A big point was when Vorhers(sp?) totally muffed a fairly easy receive in the fourth set.

All things considered, and Im still learning this game, I didn't think we played that well. We had lots of trouble in passing, our blocking was AWOL for almost two full sets and giving up numerous points on tips out of bounds, and I thought our offense was way too predictable. We never really tried setting Z in the middle for some change-ups and surprises. The player for XU wearing #1 was killing us as we couldnt get our blocks set up in time b/c XU was moving the ball so quickly. And yet we still won in four sets.

Still I think we won the big points in set four. A couple jump balls at the net were big. Add those up and that was the difference in the final set.

I think we grinded this one out and showed some good attrition, even if the play itself was mostly spotty. Our timing was off much of the day. Brian can comment better on this but it seemed our sets were never front row sets or back row sets. They were no-mans-land where both rows couldnt take a swing in their wheelhouse.

Cant argue with the result. Xavier is not chopped liver. They can make you look out of synch. Id love to see our offense play as quick as theirs and see our setting far less "lob-like" and more line-drive. Maybe it would be a disaster?

If we beat Notre Dame, our RPI might be around #30 and give us a shot to get matched up in a #8-9 kind of seeded matchup where we dont have to play way up against a top dog in the first round. Would be good not to get a BCS team either.
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Xavier out blocked us stat wise but our block was there the entire match. Xavier is just a team that is prepared for a strong block with players who are ready and capable to did some blocks. Dayton's block may have not scored as many point but definitely disrupted X's offense and kept them out of rhythm.

I think in most games I would like to see more sets to the middle and this one is no exception. Especially given how well Isolde was playing. Megan Campbell also had a true middle kill to start the match. But it's tough to argue with results. There were still plays where X (given their knowledge of how often we run the slide) favored the middle and our sliding middles or OH had only 1 blocker to beat. Dayton did a pretty good job. The second set was a big point differential win and the fact this team won two close sets is impressive against Xavier.

Dayton's lead off of Morey's serving in set 1 was so important. Her first 4 to 5 serves were way too tough to receive and Dayton's early points came easy bc of AM. Xavier played well late in that set and UD would not have won set 1 without Morey's contribution.

Yvonne's serving and back row D was huge the entire match and a big part of why she deserved most outstanding player.
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As far as seeding, I have seen on Volleytalk, that Kentucky has not placed a bid at all. If we get lucky, we will be placed in Kentucky's 4 team pod and get the opportunity to host due to our large attendance in the past. These girls are definitely playing their best vball. We have struggled against B10 opponent in the past. A match up at home against an SEC team with an under the radar Flyer team would be about as good as it gets.
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Originally Posted by UDBrian View Post
Passing is always key in a vball match but it is even more important when playing xavier. I consider them a tremendous passing team and they need to be because of how low their sets are. I would guess that we won 75% of the points where the first pass was ten feet off the net but when the pass was tight to the net we had a lot of trouble closing up blocks. Great win and nice to clinch an ncaa berth.

Kelly did a great job at the chalk talk as usual going through the strategy. Some of the things we did very well but others we seemed to get away from later in the match. And one strategy changed pretty quickly due to an adjustment by xavier.
What adjustment did X make which affected UD?
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If you haven't seen the post game photo gallery, check out pic #15 where the team lets the red scare join them. EPIC!
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Xavier out-blocked us, out-dug us, and out-assisted us. Difference was hitting percentage at the most important parts of sets 1, 2, and 4.

XU had 3-4 really damaging errors that changed momentum. Couple bad receives, trying to dunk a ball being set by UD, and an antenna error. Not much separates these programs. Just knowing we won without playing top flight is a testament to how gritty we can be to just keep battling and grind out a couple points here and there to stay in things and squeeze out a set in spite of all those things. Set one was particularly like this. After the 8-1 start, the last 10 points of the set were not solid, but we did just enough to hold on and battle through it.
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The post match video is now up on daytonflyers.com. Really great camera angle on championship point - a call that the "X" coach was very upset about. However, the video shows the "X" defender blocking Brown's kill but the ball then ricochets off the defenders hands, hits the antenna right at the top of the net, and then bounces back into the court on the Flyer side. It happened very quickly, but the antenna can clearly be seen wobbling after the block. Correct call by the official.

Some possible opponents - CMU (surprise MAC winner), Cincinnati (Big East winner), Niagara (Metro Atlantic winner), Morehead (OVC winner), Western Kentucky (Sun Belt winner) - plus some at large teams like Western Michigan, Ball State or any number of teams from the B1G (tosu if they get in, Michigan State, Michigan). Beating the Irish on Friday would give us a RPI bump and perhaps a weaker first round matchup. Notre Dame might have an outside shot for an at-large if they beat us so they will be fired up.
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If you haven't seen the post game photo gallery, check out pic #15 where the team lets the red scare join them. EPIC!
I was watching them take team pictures and then the players started yelling for the Red Scare to come over. IT didn't take them long to get ready for the picture. The overall student turnout wasn't huge because of the match being on Sunday afternoon but the Red Scare was loud and proud after bbqing burgers in the rain before the match. I took a couple of pics

Kelly said in the chalk talk that in previous Xavier matches they hadn't set Megan very much and that had to change today. Megan was a beast with 16 kills in only 26 attempts

Yvonne was huge in this match. She played good D and her service run salted away set 2 by itself. Then I think her serving was again key in set 4. When Yvonne served really well in set 2 it showed how vulnerable Xavier is without tremendous passing.

When they announced Xavier's setter on the all tournament team I booed because I thought they had screwed over Sam Selsky. Paige deserved to be on the all tournament team but if you did that you had to take Xavier's libero also. And how could you leave off the two setters? I don't think Xavier's setter is nearly as good of an all around player as Samantha is but she is a very accurate setter. You can't set the ball at the tempo Xavier does unless the setter is putting it right on the money.

Did anyone see the blown call in set 3 (not sure of the set) when Yvonne or Kray hit the ball down the line and it hit the Xavier player but they called it out of bounds. The Xavier coach had a grin on his face after that one and rightfully so.
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As far as seeding, I have seen on Volleytalk, that Kentucky has not placed a bid at all. If we get lucky, we will be placed in Kentucky's 4 team pod and get the opportunity to host due to our large attendance in the past. These girls are definitely playing their best vball. We have struggled against B10 opponent in the past. A match up at home against an SEC team with an under the radar Flyer team would be about as good as it gets.
I was thinking the same thing, but I can also see a Purdue trip. I also think a Michigan pod wouldn't be a bad thing. They will all be tough matches if you get to the second day -- but a rematch with Michigan would also be a good pairing.
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If you haven't seen the post game photo gallery, check out pic #15 where the team lets the red scare join them. EPIC!
The team did this a couple years ago too and they are the best shots.
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Reguarding blocking -- it's either feast or famine against a team that runs a quick offense. Last year it was a feast -- but we were playing a setter we had film on for a couple years with 2-3 matches a year. You can spot tendancies and predict were the set is going and get there in time. Plus we had two 4th year middles. And when the ball is set quick and low and the block is there the hitter has no prayer. Too low to dink so you can only hope the blocker makes and error.

This year we had a freshman setter who was probably making improvements and changes to her game and a lot less film to watch figure out tendancies because they probably changed over the course of the season. Plus our two middles (who I think are really, really good for this stage of their careers) are also first year starters at that position. It takes time to get swing blocking down, adjust to the speed X plays at and time to read the setter. Next year at this time we'll be a lot better at it.

All things considered, I thought we blocked pretty well against X. Did they have some easy swings? Yes. But even tho we didn't get the block, I thought our block caused them problems. And someone said it above, X dug a lot of our blocks. They move very well forward and backwards on the court. We use to be really bad at moving forward and backwards and we too have gotten much better at it. But X is really good at it.
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That serving run by Martin in set 2 was outstanding. She was picking on Rougraff and everyone on the court knew it. After the time-out "X" tried to cover her up with Vorherr which opened up the court even more but Yvonne still found her. Finally, Yvonne air-mailed one over the end line. The serves, however, were pinpoint and I thought the whole sequence got into the "X" players' heads a bit.
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Did anyone see the blown call in set 3 (not sure of the set) when Yvonne or Kray hit the ball down the line and it hit the Xavier player but they called it out of bounds. The Xavier coach had a grin on his face after that one and rightfully so.
I saw it...
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Looking forward to watching the match when I get back to st. Louis as it is archived on A10. Be even more meaningful now that I know what to look for.
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If you haven't seen the post game photo gallery, check out pic #15 where the team lets the red scare join them. EPIC!
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Here's the gallery - see pic #15
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I want to thank the Atlantic 10 for the $4.95 they spent for the Atlantic 10 logo for the girls to hold in picture #14. They must have went to Kinko's right before the award ceremony.
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