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Old 04-19-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
Rhode Island board thread on him

http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6809
Some good info in there. Rumor from URI board that he wanted to go to Georgetown but offer didn't materialize. Georgetown was listed as having interest though so wonder if this is a kid who Anthony Solomon has been in touch with and built a relationship.
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Some good info in there. Rumor from URI board that he wanted to go to Georgetown but offer didn't materialize. Georgetown was listed as having interest though so wonder if this is a kid who Anthony Solomon has been in touch with and built a relationship.
Noticed he has an offer from Jacksonville State, which is a great sign. If Ray Harper likes him enough to offer him, he must be good.
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Noticed he has an offer from Jacksonville State, which is a great sign. If Ray Harper likes him enough to offer him, he must be good.
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Originally Posted by Sticks 'n Stearns View Post
Noticed he has an offer from Jacksonville State, which is a great sign. If Ray Harper likes him enough to offer him, he must be good.
This is a great catch, thank you. I'm now on board as well.
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So next year we have a 6'10 pg in Kostas and a 6'9 shooting guard in Obadaiah?
sounds good to me go from the gem city to mismatch city!
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:17 PM
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He's rated slightly better than McKinley. UD offered him a year ago...he settled for Pitt and we eventually signed McKinley.

http://247sports.com/Player/Aaron-Th...TimelineEvents
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Originally Posted by 1903 Flyer View Post
He's rated slightly better than McKinley. UD offered him a year ago...he settled for Pitt and we eventually signed McKinley.

http://247sports.com/Player/Aaron-Th...TimelineEvents
Rumor has it he may end up at VCU--hope not
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The only issue with Thompson is that UD needs PGs who can play this season. Gotta get grad transfers, jucos, or freshmen so they can play next year.

Edit: I was wrong he would be an incoming Freshman. Thanks Oke88

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The only issue with Thompson is that UD needs PGs who can play this season. Gotta get grad transfers, jucos, or freshmen so they can play next year.
He is class of '17 and can play immediately.
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Couple of tweets relevant to Dayton:

@coreyevans_10 Illinois has offered 2017 @MtZionPrep forward Obadiah Toppin

@coreyevans_10 Former Dayton signee Nahziah Carter may no longer want a prep year. City Rocks wing showing major upside & versatility early on
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Besides Simmons and Toppin is UD listed as having interest on anyone?
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:23 AM
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Besides Simmons and Toppin is UD listed as having interest on anyone?
Definitely UD has interest in Frankie Hughes as a transfer.

Some interest in Malcolm Nicholas III as a 4 year guy but to what degree I don't know.
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Nahziah Carter thought about AG's advice to prep for a year, for mere days before changing his mind. Now if that doesn't seem like the classic brush-off by AG? Hope AG can do better because he'll never be a Flyer now..
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Nahziah Carter thought about AG's advice to prep for a year, for mere days before changing his mind. Now if that doesn't seem like the classic brush-off by AG? Hope AG can do better because he'll never be a Flyer now..
I didn't see where AG told him to prep, that was his discission as from his mother's tweeting on this. One he is 16 won't turn 17 til this summer. Hell he was going to prep until he committed to Archie
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I didn't see where AG told him to prep, that was his discission as from his mother's tweeting on this. One he is 16 won't turn 17 til this summer. Hell he was going to prep until he committed to Archie
Blowing up now by all accounts now. Well by almost all accounts.
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Blowing up now by all accounts now. Well by almost all accounts.
There are schools looking, I believe the only offer is Boston College
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Seems to me a mutual accord was made between AG and NC to prep for a year. If AG wanted him he'd be here. I was referring to the end of that tweet where it notes his development. Accounts I read had NC developing nicely until Archie left for IU. I hope AG can replace him with a comparably talented player.
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Everyone needs to remember that even with Wright, Carter, Davis, and Pierce, UD's recruiting class was not ranked in the top 100. There seemed to be a ton of potential, but nothing that was sure.
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Will be interesting to see how AG's recruiting classes end up ranking. Going to guess it could take a few years though, as he hasn't been recruiting for several years and everyone is new to UD.
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Agree it'll be interesting to compare recruiting rankings in a few years. But one of Archie's strengths was player development, so it's not as important where they start as where they finish. But if they come in the door more highly ranked, I'll take that. To clarify, it hasn't been "several years" since AG recruited. It's only been two. I think he'll remember.
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Originally Posted by kiefaber455 View Post
Everyone needs to remember that even with Wright, Carter, Davis, and Pierce, UD's recruiting class was not ranked in the top 100. There seemed to be a ton of potential, but nothing that was sure.
Does anyone recall the ranking of our last Senior Class?
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Does anyone recall the ranking of our last Senior Class?
Not the overall ranking, but as I recall Scoochie and Kyle were both around 120. Not sure about Kendall. I think the first Top 100 player Archie got (other than transfers) was Kostas (around 89).

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Not the overall ranking, but as I recall Scoochie and Kyle were both around 120. Not sure about Kendall. I think the first Top 100 player Archie got (other than transfers) was Kostas (around 89).
Kyle Davis was a three-star by most services, though Scout had him ranked 99 and a four-star: http://www.scout.com/player/155266-kyle-davis

Same was true of Scoochie, though Rivals was the outlier and had him a four-star at 106: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/26083

Kendall Pollard was a three-star both with Scout and Rivals: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/49278

And yes, Rivals had Kostas at 89 and a four-star: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/4796

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Rivals had Kyle at 114.
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Everyone needs to remember that even with Wright, Carter, Davis, and Pierce, UD's recruiting class was not ranked in the top 100. There seemed to be a ton of potential, but nothing that was sure.
It's not the number of stars that carried the most weight with Archie. The whole deal was his consistent ability to turn them into a dedicated True Team. It will be interesting to watch what he recruits to Indiana, where the fans whine if the recruit isn't a celebrated Steve Alford in HS.
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It's not the number of stars that carried the most weight with Archie. The whole deal was his consistent ability to turn them into a dedicated True Team.
True, but it helps to have those stars too. Jordan Sibert was a four star recruit ranked #39 in the country. We won five NCAA Tournament games with him, and none after he left. Stars don't mean everything, but I would rather turn a bunch of 4-stars into a True Team than a bunch of 3-stars. I'm hoping that AG will be able to get some higher rated recruits AND coach them up.
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It's not the number of stars that carried the most weight with Archie. The whole deal was his consistent ability to turn them into a dedicated True Team. It will be interesting to watch what he recruits to Indiana, where the fans whine if the recruit isn't a celebrated Steve Alford in HS.
As has been said a billion times....Archie will have more obligations at IU. He will have to hob nob with donors,admin and alumni exponentially more then when he was here. As Chris has stated, the current and previous AD did their best to minimize the crap he had to deal with.

He was KING in this town. His shortcomings were overlooked and excused. WE LOVED HIM. He could do no wrong. The Admin wanted to pay him in the Top 10. Not in the state, not in the A-10, not in the Non-Power 5.....THE ENTIRE FREAKING NATION.

Archie now enters a pressure cooker where he will be under the microscope. First NIT year or underperforming season under huge expectations and the sharks will circle.

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The whole deal was his consistent ability to turn them into a dedicated True Team.
Can we move on from the "True Team" marketing slogan since we have a new coach? It was an Archie thing and it's time to move on.

And the whole "Are you the 6th" marketing they did was kind of silly too.
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Carter update from Rivals

Recruitment: Just reopened after signing to Dayton in the fall; schools that have reached out including Georgetown, Georgia Tech, UMass, Indiana and Boston College.

His day: Despite his inability to find the hoop on his 15-feet and out jump shots, Nahziah Carter was still impressive as he scored at the basket on highlight dunks and defended more than two spots on the floor; he finished with 13 points and three rebounds in the win.

Quote: “I plan to go to college this summer and prep school is an alternative, just in case I don’t get the right fit, but my plan is to go to college this year.”

Prediction: Way too early to tell as Boston College is the only program that has offered since backing off of his original commitment.

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Can we move on from the "True Team" marketing slogan since we have a new coach? It was an Archie thing and it's time to move on.

And the whole "Are you the 6th" marketing they did was kind of silly too.
Archie = True Team. Like it or not that is the most prominent stamp on his tenure. We'll see if that concept follows him. You can't erase our history.
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Archie = True Team. Like it or not that is the most prominent stamp on his tenure. We'll see if that concept follows him. You can't erase our history.
I'm not saying erase it from history. I'm just hoping that the team and marketing department moves on from using it anymore in the future since UD has a new coach now.
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and defended more than two spots on the floorl[/url]
So....he guarded 3 positions. Seems like it would just be easier to say that instead...
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According to Jon Rothstein Dayton has interest in former Pitt commit Aaron Thompson. He is a 6'1 PG out of Fairfax VA. VCU, Butler, and Georgetown are also after him.
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According to Jon Rothstein Dayton has interest in former Pitt commit Aaron Thompson. He is a 6'1 PG out of Fairfax VA. VCU, Butler, and Georgetown are also after him.
take this FWIW but a VCU "insider" on the A10 board seems to think they have the inside track

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take this FWIW but a VCU "insider" on the A10 board seems to think they have the inside track
Not doing a grammar nazi thing just wanting clarification. Is "they" referencing UD or VCU?
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Not doing a grammar nazi thing just wanting clarification. Is "they" referencing UD or VCU?
they as in VCU
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take this FWIW but a VCU "insider" on the A10 board seems to think they have the inside track

Fairfax is Anthony Soloman's wheelhouse. Would be nice to pull him away from them
VCU fans think they have the inside track for every recruit. Unfortunately, they have been on a roll when it comes to recruiting the last few years. They have beat us out for multiple players the last few years.
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VCU fans think they have the inside track for every recruit.
Just every recruit? Did you forget that they have the best band, arena, city, concession stands, fan websites, water fountains, and fan who wears ram horns and sings the national anthem better than it has ever been sung before. I just can't believe you left all that out!

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Composite 2017 rankings FWIW

#40 Overall and #10 PG: Tremont Waters (former Georgetown commit)
#169 Overall and #35 PG: Aaron Thompson (former Pitt commit)
#223 Overall and #45 PG: McKinley Wright (former Dayton commit)

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Mark Smith a PG out of Illinois that Butler and Ohio State are after is announcing tomorrow. That's a domino
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2017 @MtZionPrep forward Obadiah Toppin is on an official visit to #Dayton today, per source.

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Mark Smith a PG out of Illinois that Butler and Ohio State are after is announcing tomorrow. That's a domino
He might have played PG in HS, but he's being recruited as a 2 guard from everything I've seen.
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Nice. Not a need per se, but he looks really good. Hope we can snag him.
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Julius Kim‏ @JKimElevate 8m8 minutes ago

2017 @MtZionPrep forward Obadiah Toppin is on an official visit to #Dayton today, per source.

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Does he play PG? (sarcasm)
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Former Pittsburgh signee Aaron Thompson will visit VCU this weekend, source told ESPN. Four-star guard.
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Nice. Not a need per se, but he looks really good. Hope we can snag him.
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I'll say this. For Anthony Grant's system, I would imagine he covets length and athleticism from his forwards ideally. Xeyrius and Kostas seem like a perfect match there. And Obadiah's game looks very much in the mold of Xeyrius and Kostas. Freakish athleticism and long with the agility to run and defend any and every position on the floor. You probably can't have enough of those types to play the way Anthony Grant wants to play.

Also, he can play some tight end.

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Naz Carter free update from Rivals. Long story short, wants to go to college this year but most schools are out of scholarships and want him to prep. Boston College only offer mentioned

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Naz Carter free update from Rivals. Long story short, wants to go to college this year but most schools are out of scholarships and want him to prep. Boston College only offer mentioned

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....r-more-options
So Boston College is the only place that wants him for 2017 right now? Interesting. I knew his original plan was to prep due to his being really young and not having a ton of offers until Dayton talked him out of that original plan. So I really figured he just decided to go back to the original plan to see how things would play out, but if he actually wants to go to college to this year, makes you wonder if Grant didn't really want him for 2017 either. Also, surprised of no mention of Syracuse. Figured they would probably be one he was talking to (via Griffin) about 2018.
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So Boston College is the only place that wants him for 2017 right now? Interesting. I knew his original plan was to prep due to his being really young and not having a ton of offers until Dayton talked him out of that original plan. So I really figured he just decided to go back to the original plan to see how things would play out, but if he actually wants to go to college to this year, makes you wonder if Grant didn't really want him for 2017 either. Also, surprised of no mention of Syracuse. Figured they would probably be one he was talking to (via Griffin) about 2018.
I read it as Grant wants him still but since his stock went up this year I think he's waiting to see if he can get a big time Power 5 offer. Everything I've read about his AAU performance last weekend is that he really raised his profile
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I read it as Grant wants him still but since his stock went up this year I think he's waiting to see if he can get a big time Power 5 offer. Everything I've read about his AAU performance last weekend is that he really raised his profile
Grant was just quoted in the DDN saying they "were still pursuing some of the guys" Archie signed. So I think "some" has to mean McKinley and Naziah (and not Svoboda where Jablonski has already reported no contact), but pursing Carter for 2017, 2018, or either or is anyone's guess I guess.
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Boston College only offer mentioned
Boston College, good program ... or not
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I read it as Grant wants him still but since his stock went up this year I think he's waiting to see if he can get a big time Power 5 offer. Everything I've read about his AAU performance last weekend is that he really raised his profile
That's how I took it as well ... that the prep talk was his idea to go "bigger" next year. If that's the case, I don't think he ends up here regardless of other offers. But Mom seems to like UD, and if he clicks with AG or one of the assistants, who knows.
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That's how I took it as well ... that the prep talk was his idea to go "bigger" next year.
I agree on the intent although prep talk was there prior to Dayton (Archie) offering initially.
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I agree on the intent although prep talk was there prior to Dayton (Archie) offering initially.
Gotcha. I wasn't aware of that.
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Gotcha. I wasn't aware of that.
“We are really excited to add Nahziah to our recruiting class,” coach Archie Miller said in a press release. “We evaluated him during most of July, and even though there was a chance he would reclassify his recruiting because of his young age in relation to others in his class. We offered him in hopes he would be willing to come to us as a 2017 recruit."

“This is a great get for Dayton,” City Rocks President Jimmy Hart said. “The good thing for him is he’s a smart kid. He gets it. He’ll develop more under coach (Archie) Miller than he would in a prep school. Longer term this is a better decision for him. He’s a good student. He wants to go to college. He didn’t really want to go to prep school. A lot of people said to him, ‘Oh Naz, you’re only 16. The other kids are 17 or 18. You’re a perfect candidate.’ And he is. But some kids are trying to find a way to game the system. ‘If I do this, I’ll be ranked higher.’ Naz isn’t about that.”

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He's not coming to Dayton, but I can't imagine his mom-- who seems to be quite involved in his recruitment -- wants to watch Naz head 2,500 miles away to play ball.
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I love that Corey Evans can't decide if Naz is class of 2017 or 2018 in tweets that are 10 minutes apart.
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I love that Corey Evans can't decide if Naz is class of 2017 or 2018 in tweets that are 10 minutes apart.
I don't know how many of you follow him on Twitter, but he posted a new tweet 2018. This could mean he is prepping next year. We will see
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Mark Smith a PG out of Illinois that Butler and Ohio State are after is announcing tomorrow. That's a domino
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Reporter who covers St. Johns tweeted out that their offer is valid for either 2017 or 2018.
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Probably not looking too good for Naz now
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Question on Svodoba... it certainly looks like AG is taking a pass on him, although it hasn't been confirmed. Does the University have any obligation to Svodoba? He hasn't signed a LOI, but did Dayton make an offer in writing that they'd have to honor? Not that Svodoba would be likely to come to a place that doesn't want him - just curious about how things work. I realize he isn't guaranteed a spot on the team (coaches can offer more slots than they have), but is he guaranteed a scholarship if he has an offer in writing from Dayton?
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Nothing in writing or any way binding either way.
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Posting updates on a guy we're still recruiting is stirring the pot? Ok
I appreciate these posts personally. Updates on offers/visits/commitments of guys UD may be targeting is relevant, on topic and interesting to me at least.
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I appreciate these posts personally. Updates on offers/visits/commitments of guys UD may be targeting is relevant, on topic and interesting to me at least.
Same here, there's probably more info floating around what's going with Dayton basketball than ever before
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The fact that MW and NC are getting the offers that they are now says alot about Archie and staffs recruiting ability.
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Can't play PG but a 4 star Miami kid looks to be back on the market...

@HoopExchange Oklahoma St signee, Latravian Glover (South Miami HS, 6'8) has been granted his release and is opening his recruitment

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Minor update on Latravian Glover: one of his coaches there in South Miami, Michael "Miggy" Martinez, retweeted the Glover news. I clicked his profile and see a pending friend request between Dayton coach James Kane (who protects his tweets so not publicly visible) and Martinez. Leads me to believe the coaching staff is at least doing their due diligence on this guy. So definitely a name worth monitoring.
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Posting updates on a guy we're still recruiting is stirring the pot? Ok
But what about the many posts on players we are not recruiting but you apparently think we should be. It appears you just want to show how many players we are missing out on, as if AG and staff aren't doing their job.
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But what about the many posts on players we are not recruiting but you apparently think we should be. It appears you just want to show how many players we are missing out on, as if AG and staff aren't doing their job.
Or maybe he's just talking basketball on a basketball message board. Interesting concept. It's so crazy it might actually work!
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The fact that MW and NC are getting the offers that they are now says alot about Archie and staffs recruiting ability.
I agree it says something but don't read too much into it. By the same logic the fact that they asked for releases also speaks very negatively about the merits of UD on its own, and I don't accept that as true.
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I agree it says something but don't read too much into it. By the same logic the fact that they asked for releases also speaks very negatively about the merits of UD on its own, and I don't accept that as true.
In fact, when Wright committed the main factors he gave were, the town, the fans and coaches, in that order. http://www.zagsblog.com/2016/09/14/m...ght-to-dayton/
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The growing interest in Naz Carter, McKinley Wright and, if he had made himself available, Jordan Davis shows how weak most of these recruiting services really are. At one point I believe I read on here that UD's class before all the shake up was below 100.

My theory is once a player commits to a school like Dayton, they have peaked as far as the rating services go. Other commits jump them not on talent but by where they end up going to school. These services also never capture improvements from late bloomers or even capture the worth of a team player since most judgements are made during the "all about me" AAU circuit.

I would say they are not worth the paper they are printed on but that just shows my age...
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I agree it says something but don't read too much into it. By the same logic the fact that they asked for releases also speaks very negatively about the merits of UD on its own, and I don't accept that as true.
If I had to choose I don't think it says anything about about the merits, or lack of, of UD, alot about AM's recruiting/eye for talent, and even more about the relentless work ethic that AM and his staff had and realizing the strategy they needed to deploy by eyeing it early,establishing the relationship, and getting the commit. No way AM is getting either of these kids real late in the process or, rather, after the hurd starts, the way many schools could...

One thing about Archie is just about every kid he gets there's a pretty major flaw that is evident. He gets Scoochie who was thin as a rail, not a great athlete, but gets in on him early. He goes after KD who was a 6' guard with little PG skill even in HS, he gets KP who, again, has no shooting skills but is a 6'6" forward who was 2nd fiddle (but the real glue) on his HS team.There are plenty of others but AM sees thru this and realizes the work needed to mold and shape these under-the-radar kids. Big -time programs don't go after these guys nearly as hard as they normally get a kid far closer to the finished product in either in skill-set or physicality.
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Did you just imply that UD should be able to recruit kids with no major flaws?
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In fact, when Wright committed the main factors he gave were, the town, the fans and coaches, in that order. http://www.zagsblog.com/2016/09/14/m...ght-to-dayton/
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"It’s the best fit for him,” Al Harris, said Wright’s mentor and coach. “His decision came down to fit and trust amongst the coaching staff. He chose a program with a coach that has a similar personality and a winning community!"
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If I had to choose I don't think it says anything about about the merits, or lack of, of UD, alot about AM's recruiting/eye for talent, and even more about the relentless work ethic that AM and his staff had and realizing the strategy they needed to deploy by eyeing it early,establishing the relationship, and getting the commit. No way AM is getting either of these kids real late in the process or, rather, after the hurd starts, the way many schools could...

One thing about Archie is just about every kid he gets there's a pretty major flaw that is evident. He gets Scoochie who was thin as a rail, not a great athlete, but gets in on him early. He goes after KD who was a 6' guard with little PG skill even in HS, he gets KP who, again, has no shooting skills but is a 6'6" forward who was 2nd fiddle (but the real glue) on his HS team.There are plenty of others but AM sees thru this and realizes the work needed to mold and shape these under-the-radar kids. Big -time programs don't go after these guys nearly as hard as they normally get a kid far closer to the finished product in either in skill-set or physicality.
So if the only reason they were committed to UD was Archie, and they left when Archie left, how is that not a negative commentary on UD generally?
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So if the only reason they were committed to UD was Archie, and they left when Archie left, how is that not a negative commentary on UD generally?
First off, because "they" does not mean the entire class has left as at least two of them are staying and possibly 1-2 others may not even be wanted by the current staff. Secondly, while philosophically recruits should commit first and foremost to the actual school, we know that's not a reality in most cases. Recruiting is mainly all about comfort and relationships and that's usually with current players, recruits, but mainly the coaching staff.
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But what about the many posts on players we are not recruiting but you apparently think we should be. It appears you just want to show how many players we are missing out on, as if AG and staff aren't doing their job.
My exact point. It's definitely what his angle is...there's another guy we aren't getting!!
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I agree ...most of these guys "we aren't getting" are likely not wanted by AG and his staff... and you and I will never know that for sure!
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Naz Carter, Obadiah Toppin & Aaron Thompson aren't guys that we are recruiting? interesting theory
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Minor update on Latravian Glover: one of his coaches there in South Miami, Michael "Miggy" Martinez, retweeted the Glover news. I clicked his profile and see a pending friend request between Dayton coach James Kane (who protects his tweets so not publicly visible) and Martinez. Leads me to believe the coaching staff is at least doing their due diligence on this guy. So definitely a name worth monitoring.
How about this quote from then Oklahoma State coach Brad Underwood when he signed

“We really feel that Latravian was one of the top prospects in the state of Florida prior to having an ACL knee injury,” said Underwood. “It’s not fair for me to say this, but he’s a guy who has kind of like a Lebron James-type game; big, strong and extremely high basketball IQ.

“He’s a very good athlete that is not back at 100-percent yet, but he can shoot it, handle it and score in the paint. I think he has the opportunity, when healthy, to be as good of a player as there is in this league. Athletically and physically, he’s just a specimen. He is a guy who can play multiple positions, has tremendous IQ and has great feel of the game. His best days are in front of him, and we’re excited to have him.”
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2018 Ridgeway (TN) G Jalen Crutcher has received an offer from Dayton. @jalen_norose1 http://verbalcommits.com/players/jalen-crutcher

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Maybe Twitter auto corrects if you write the University of Dayton...
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Can't be picky or complain at this point. Hopefully he signs with good ole DU!!!!!!!!
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Got a good feeling about this kid possibly coming aboard soon. I think Kane recruited him at Murray State. Very good chance he is Dayton's starting PG next year I think.
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