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So what you are saying is that he was cut from varsity
I would venture a guess that 90% of NBA players started off on JV so I guess all of them were 'cut' too. Which makes the Michael Jordan a bigger load of BS since it applies to just about everyone.
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I would venture a guess that 90% of NBA players started off on JV so I guess all of them were 'cut' too. Which makes the Michael Jordan a bigger load of BS since it applies to just about everyone.
First of all - I hate myself for posting unconfirmed reports in my own "Confirmed Reports" thread. But that went out the window a long time ago. We are on page 2 of this thread and all I can confirm is that you people are animals! And I mean that in the nicest way possible. This is why we can't have nice things.

As for the MJ story - we aren't talking about 90% of the NBA. We are talking about the greatest player ever. Kobe started as a Freshman. LeBron started as a Freshman. Earvin Johnson had already earned the nickname Magic by his Sophomore season. The greats ALL played early. Except one.

So yes - it is interesting that the greatest of all time couldn't get on the floor with the varsity squad until his junior season.
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So I get an unsigned red pip for this post with the following comment:
"You have to be joking... as if they read or have thin skin"

Sounds like Mr. Anonymous is the one with thin skin.

Mr. Anonymous - I know for a fact the players read most of our posts. I've heard it straight from them and the assistant coaches. I should congratulate you on receiving the first red pip I've ever given (and I signed it too).
What kind of delusion world do you live in that you think these kids REALLY give a $#!T what you or anyone else on this board says? They spend most of their time in the real world or on twitter.

And for the sake of argument, if Crosby does read some negative comments on this board, do you think he really care what a bunch of old men on the internet think? What about when 7000 people in UD arena sigh and uggg when he runs into the lane out of control and turns it over? That happens... If anything that would make him transfer... AG might make him transfer or bench him if we had another few options...

And really "JUMPIN JOE" if that's your real name... I'm glad you "signed" it.

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Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski View Post
Hey, when the he** did I get cut from the roster?
With all due respect (which gives me the right to say just about anything), I'm not sure you were ever on the roster. Looking at the names, I think King Rollo was just trying to quickly reference some of the most relevant posters.
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....Rollo was just trying to quickly reference some of the most relevant posters.
What? The most irrelevant poster of all, has some kind of clue as to who is relevant to this board? Come on.......
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What? The most irrelevant poster of all, has some kind of clue as to who is relevant to this board? Come on.......
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Not sure I am on the right thread anymore; geesh

No white smoke coming from the chapel as there is little movement but lots of action going on behind the scenes. Right now the top assistants are also being considered for HC jobs still unfilled. Even AM is taking his good ol time in announcing his staff, most likely next week as he said.

AG hasn't stopped moving since he came here so its tough to know where he stands on all issues except he is talking face to face with all recruits and in touch with his list of assistants.

All we know is that Griffin going to Cruse, no one has asked nor received their release, svoboda has not reopened his recruiting and the present assistants haven't been let go.....yet to all of that.

Too much left up in the air at the moment, but I would expect a huge domino effect after the weekend as the dust settles.

Now I return you to more off topic discussions.
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Avid, is Donnie Jones a name that you are hearing is in play for Grant's staff? I can't imagine UD would be okay with hiring a guy who got hit with a "show cause" for cash payments to players, but yet, I keep hearing his name.
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They make pills for every ailment in my kingdom...yours, Terry, I believe is purple. If you're confused, RamodPikaar* can lend you a couple.

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The best part of this site is the "Ignore" feature. I have had you ah king on "ignore" for some time now and my message board experience has been greatly enhanced. I only see his crap when someone else quotes him..... and when that happens his replies are sooo predictable. Get a life Rollo.... you need help.
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The best part of this site is the "Ignore" feature. I have had you ah king on "ignore" for some time now and my message board experience has been greatly enhanced. I only see his crap when someone else quotes him..... and when that happens his replies are sooo predictable. Get a life Rollo.... you need help.
Just like the sign at the zoo says TerryK, "Please Do Not Feed The Rollos, I mean Animals"
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So we were restless for the hire. Now i along with 99% of you are getting restless for Assistants and recruits news. i don't even want to make a Ray Harper joke. Ready for a normal offseason.

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Just like the sign at the zoo says TerryK, "Please Do Not Feed The Rollos, I mean Animals"
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The Queen wants me to print out a couple thousand t-shirts of various sizes and colors that say "People...EWWWWW".

If there's enough Royal interest, I'll start taking orders!
I think the Queen needs a shirt that says "Woman of the Year, I put up with Him"- with an arrow pointing at you of course!

Order two, mine needs one as well!
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So we were restless for the hire. Now i along with 99% of you are getting restless for Assistants and recruits news. i don't even want to make a Ray Harper joke. Ready for a normal offseason.

Anything to nibble on would be great.
If only we had a thread dedicated to this...
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Why would there be info on potential assistants in that thread. There's no information about which recruits/players are confirmed staying/leaving in this thread...Plus, Ray Harper!
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Avid, is Donnie Jones a name that you are hearing is in play for Grant's staff? I can't imagine UD would be okay with hiring a guy who got hit with a "show cause" for cash payments to players, but yet, I keep hearing his name.
Yes along with Hipsher and few others, but can't say I'm familiar with any of them. Men's bball page still list all assistants which don't anything as Griffin is gone.
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Back on Topic- I think

Does this count as confirmation that Sam Miller and Trey Landers plan to come back. Update on injuries and surgeries they both had.

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TX Flyer and Terry K must have the same doctor. I didn't know here was such thing as a sense-of-humorectomy out there.
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Does this count as confirmation that Sam Miller and Trey Landers plan to come back. Update on injuries and surgeries they both had.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...j1qW5d5XmrSXK/
Really it only confirms Miller's chances of not getting better..He's the last guy that needs to miss several months..

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Does this count as confirmation that Sam Miller and Trey Landers plan to come back. Update on injuries and surgeries they both had.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...j1qW5d5XmrSXK/
I think it's unlikely we lose any current players. The only one I would be at all worried about is Trey Landers, and that's just because he got not PT as a freshman. But with a new coach and 4 seniors graduating, he has a great opportunity to get plenty of PT if he is up to it.

I still want to hear about re-commitments from all the new recruits, though.
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Does this count as confirmation that Sam Miller and Trey Landers plan to come back. Update on injuries and surgeries they both had.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...j1qW5d5XmrSXK/
I say we count it - we won't get anything official from current players. This may be the closest we get to confirmation.

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasket...assistant.html

CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
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CONFIRMED RETENTION:
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http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...nUlKVezOVCngI/
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MNFats, trying to help you get this thread headed in the right direction (get it!)

More from the DDN today on Grant meeting with recruits and none have asked for a release as of yet. If your on Facebook, like "Flyer Nation" as that is where I have been seeing many article lately, as I had given up on ever checking DDN website.

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Did hear Grant got two of his men, meaning assistants.....then it was later changed to in progress not all hurdles passed. If two then that could mean either Ostrom or Kuwik would be gone....unless one was taking the DoBO position. Either way there are issues that need to be cleared up before we know for sure on assistants.

As reported in DDN Grant is meeting with all recruits face to face by this weekend so doubt we know for sure on much of anything.

Stumbling block for an assistant or two. Got to be awkward for Ostrom and Kuwik not knowing their future here or at IU.

Comar is only one hear going to IU. But all assistants are still listed on daytonflyers.com even though they updated the roster leaving off the graduating seniors.
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I wonder if Grant could get Westbrook to give Wright a phone call. Or is that even legal?
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I wonder if Grant could get Westbrook to give Wright a phone call. Or is that even legal?
Don't know about direct contact but UK uses quotes from Wildcats in the NBA praising Cal on promotional/social media stuff for recruits
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TX Flyer and Terry K must have the same doctor. I didn't know here was such thing as a sense-of-humorectomy out there.
It seems like there are a lot of grumpy, crotchety, cranky, old men on here, that is the picture that keeps forming in my mind anyway.

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As reported in DDN Grant is meeting with all recruits face to face by this weekend so doubt we know for sure on much of anything.
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"The only one I would be at all worried about is Trey Landers, and that's just because he got not PT as a freshman. "

Perhaps the DDN article goes a long way to explain why Trey got so little playing time. After months of speculation about his abilities, his relationship to the coach or coaches his ability to learn how to play at the collegiate level, the number of upperclassmen and so on and so forth, we learn that he has spent the season with a nagging sports injury that has limited him and his playing time.
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"The only one I would be at all worried about is Trey Landers, and that's just because he got not PT as a freshman. "

Perhaps the DDN article goes a long way to explain why Trey got so little playing time. After months of speculation about his abilities, his relationship to the coach or coaches his ability to learn how to play at the collegiate level, the number of upperclassmen and so on and so forth, we learn that he has spent the season with a nagging sports injury that has limited him and his playing time.
Every time he saw the floor, I saw a great physical athlete with a very high motor. I hope they get him squared away. The way I see it, we lost 4 of 5 starters and our head coach. Next season is a fresh start, and every one of these kids will be given a blank slate to recreate their path.

I hope a handful of them see this as a major opportunity, and that they make the most of it.

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Every time he saw the floor, I saw a great physical athlete with a very high motor. I hope they get him squared away. The way I see it, we lost 4 of 5 starters and our head coach. Next season is a fresh start, and every one of these kids will be given a blank slate to recreate their path.

I hope a handful of them see this as a major opportunity, and that they make the most of it.
Trey will be a high production guy sooner than later...not out of necessity...but out of ability. I will bet on that.
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"The only one I would be at all worried about is Trey Landers, and that's just because he got not PT as a freshman. "

Perhaps the DDN article goes a long way to explain why Trey got so little playing time. After months of speculation about his abilities, his relationship to the coach or coaches his ability to learn how to play at the collegiate level, the number of upperclassmen and so on and so forth, we learn that he has spent the season with a nagging sports injury that has limited him and his playing time.
It seems to me that given those nagging injuries (sports hernia, etc.), he should have been red-shirted.
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Allen Griffin no longer listed on Dayton's website as an assistant coach. Other two assistance are still listed as of 7 am Friday morning. Conclusion, one decision made. Two have not been made. That's all that can be confirmed at this point. This is the confirmed only thread, right?
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Allen Griffin no longer listed on Dayton's website as an assistant coach. Other two assistance are still listed as of 7 am Friday morning. Conclusion, one decision made. Two have not been made. That's all that can be confirmed at this point. This is the confirmed only thread, right?
I can confirm this is the confirmed only thread

If we keep both Kuwik and Ostrom I will be very happy.

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Every time he saw the floor, I saw a great physical athlete with a very high motor. I hope they get him squared away. The way I see it, we lost 4 of 5 starters and our head coach. Next season is a fresh start, and every one of these kids will be given a blank slate to recreate their path.

I hope a handful of them see this as a major opportunity, and that they make the most of it.
Besides being a guy without a real position he had a bunch of seniors in front of him......He needs to find his niche which he will..Guy is a freak athlete with a better skill-set than people really saw...Not sure when his injury really happened which may have hindered him getting in games...Could really see him flourish under AG's system....
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Allen Griffin no longer listed on Dayton's website as an assistant coach. Other two assistance are still listed as of 7 am Friday morning. Conclusion, one decision made. Two have not been made. That's all that can be confirmed at this point. This is the confirmed only thread, right?
Confirmed on Syracuse Web Site : Link.
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Per a Jablonski re-tweet... AG is meeting with Jordan Davis today.
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is Josh not confirmed to be returning?
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Am i missing something? Other threads are saying Ostrom is gone. Did i miss an actual announcement?
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Josh wasn't in town (was home) for the press conference/Anthony's introduction to the players. He wasn't around when the other players were interviewed. MN only listed those that actually said they were staying/not transferring.
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Josh wasn't in town (was home) for the press conference/Anthony's introduction to the players. He wasn't around when the other players were interviewed. MN only listed those that actually said they were staying/not transferring.
Correct. We have no reason to believe he is not staying, but there has been no mention of his status for next year. He's already sat out a year - doubt he would do it again - waiting to hear something solid.

As for Ostrom - writing seems to be on the wall that he's gone, but nothing has been confirmed there. Trying to keep this list free of speculation.
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What am I missing, he listed XW.
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What am I missing, he listed XW.
But you yadda, yadda, yadda'd over the best part. No I didn't, I mentioned the bisque:-)
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Does anyone know what is going on with Kostas? Has he said that he is staying.
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Does anyone know what is going on with Kostas? Has he said that he is staying.
It's been reported by Jablonski multiple times that no player has asked for their release to transfer. If he transfers, he would have to sit out another year while not which would mean losing a year of eligibility.
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If Kostas is basically a very tall and long guard like everyone keeps saying he is, AG's system will suit him better than AM's. Why then would he leave?
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Does anyone know what is going on with Kostas? Has he said that he is staying.
Could be Coach Grant's NBA experience may be quite reassuring to Kostas. I wonder if Kosta's big brother has had the chance to cross paths with Coach at all the last 2 years?
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You all need to stop worrying if Kostas is leaving. If he leaves UD he has very limited options. He would have to sit out another season if he transfers to a D1 school. If he wants to play college basketball next year he would have to transfer to a D2/D3/NAIA school or a JuCo. His only other option would be to turn pro and play in the D-league or Europe.

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You all need to stop worrying if Kostas is leaving. If he leaves UD he has very limited options. He would have to sit out another season if he transfers to a D1 school. If he wants to play college basketball next year he would have to transfer to a D2/D3/NAIA school or a JuCo. His only other option would be to turn pro and play in the D-league or Europe.

Just relax and see what players enroll in August.
Ummmm. No.

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Could be Coach Grant's NBA experience may be quite reassuring to Kostas. I wonder if Kosta's big brother has had the chance to cross paths with Coach at all the last 2 years?
I'd rather hear Grant is crossing paths with Kostas' younger brother actually....
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Archie Miller's staff at Indiana will be Bruiser Flint, Tom Ostrom (Dayton) and Ed Schilling (UCLA), source told ESPN. Bill Comar as DOBO.

No surprise, but looks like it is finally becoming official that Ostrom and Comar are going to IU with Archie.
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Just keeping it up to date...

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
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6 pm on Monday and I was expecting to see IU announcement today if true. Nothing yet which seems somewhat odd if in fact Ostrom and Comar are leaving. You would think at a minimum UD would not want an assistant coach still in the office potentially interacting with recruits while just waiting for the announcement from his new job. And that doesn't represent any ill-will or lack of professionalism of the parties involved. It's just the nature of a turnover.

Then there is always the possibility that the reports are wrong and decisions have not been made. I think if either one of these men was not considering staying at UD, they would have been sent on their way by now,even if IU wasn't ready to announce. With the dead period ending, both sides of this coin should be working on future recruits, so why isn't Ostrom out recruiting for IU if in fact he is headed there?

Just a little odd to me. Of course I could just be a day or two off an official announcement. Still hoping Ostrom stays.
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6 pm on Monday and I was expecting to see IU announcement today if true. Nothing yet which seems somewhat odd if in fact Ostrom and Comar are leaving. You would think at a minimum UD would not want an assistant coach still in the office potentially interacting with recruits while just waiting for the announcement from his new job. And that doesn't represent any ill-will or lack of professionalism of the parties involved. It's just the nature of a turnover.

Then there is always the possibility that the reports are wrong and decisions have not been made. I think if either one of these men was not considering staying at UD, they would have been sent on their way by now,even if IU wasn't ready to announce. With the dead period ending, both sides of this coin should be working on future recruits, so why isn't Ostrom out recruiting for IU if in fact he is headed there?

Just a little odd to me. Of course I could just be a day or two off an official announcement. Still hoping Ostrom stays.
Also, the moment it was announced that Miller-Grant transition had occurred the UD website was updated. As of today all the assistants names remain. If it was certain that one or more was not on Grant's staff wouldn't that person's name be removed immediately?

Further, with Ostrom's rep as a recruiter....would it help if he was promoted to Assoc Head Coach with a nice raise? I hope somehow we can keep him. If he and Grant are so close...seems as if Grant could make this happen.

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Also, the moment it was announced that Miller-Grant transition had occurred the UD website was updated. As of today all the assistants names remain. If it was certain that one or more was not on Grant's staff wouldn't that person's name be removed immediately?

Further, with Ostrom's rep as a recruiter....would it help if he was promoted to Assoc Head Coach with a nice raise? I hope somehow we can keep him. If he and Grant are so close...seems as if Grant could make this happen.
Tom Ostrom,Ed Schilling and Bruiser Flint is Archie's staff. Bill Comar is going as DOBO. It was all over Twitter yesterday
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Tom Ostrom,Ed Schilling and Bruiser Flint is Archie's staff. Bill Comar is going as DOBO. It was all over Twitter yesterday
You could be absolutely right. But I've also observed that these things take on a life of their own. One person Tweets something and other outlets-people pick it up including news outlets-media personalities. Before you know it there are 50 "sources" reporting it when in actuality it's 50 sources just repeating the original source 3-4 generations later and there is really just one source, who could be wrong. It's the new normal fake news. And how do you stop that?.

Might not apply here? Just an observation. I'll also throw out, AM said he wants to announce his staff all together. Well if twitter is correct, he could have done that Monday.

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If Ostrum is a "great" recruiter, why then don't we have more "great" recruits? In the prior three years none have been near "great". None have gone on to the NBA or even come close. No four stars or better.

Last year all we got was Landers, a modest addition. The year prior we got X who looks to be better than average, and two other mediocre players and a trainwreck. In the year before all got was DD another fair player. Yes we got Cooke but transfers are not our lifeblood.

Seems he's hardly a "great recruiter". We don't seem to be materially outstripping the VCU's and several other conference members in terms of talent acquisition.
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In his defense Crosby hasn't been real dependable. He's allowed his opinion. Its not hatred. he's calling it how HE sees it. I wouldn't goes as far as train wreck but he's closer to train wreck then dependable.

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As of this morning neither Indiana nor Dayton have updated their coaching roster. Dayton still has Ostrom etc and Indiana is still only with a Head Coach. Odd should be something soon I would guess or is Archie still playing with possible assistants. In meantime our staff is still complete with lone exception of Griffin.

And if someone has reached out to M Wright it would have to be Archie himself as he does not have a recruiting assistant on staff.....unless Ostrom is the contact and not officially on staff either place, or worse yet still on UD staff.
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In his defense Crosby hasn't been real dependable. He's allowed his opinion. Its not hatred. he's calling it how HE sees it. I wouldn't goes as far as train wreck but he's closer to train wreck then dependable.

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I try to read all the posts every day now that I am retired but I don't post much, and especially not lately because everything is so much up in the air. Assistant coaches not all in place. Only one new recruit has re-affirmed his letter of intent. Thank you, Jordan Davis!!!
I think we all realize, and this is not just opinion, that recruiting is the lifeblood of every program. I get so excited about recruiting that I think I missed my calling. This past season I chose to keep track of every high school game of all 4 of our incoming recruits. I enjoyed posting so that all of us Priders could follow their progress.

Lets not have apprehension over the current state of affairs! Everything will fall into place! Anthony Grant will make the right decisions and we will have a good, if not great point guard whether it be McKinley Wright or not!

Who knows, maybe with AG's experience as an assistant coach in the pros he may even be able to recruit 4 star athletes where in the past 3 stars are the highest UD could get (Chris Wright being the only exception)!
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Archie pulled some transfers that were very highly rated coming out of high school - Sibert, Derenbecker, and Cunningham. Those were his highest rated recruits. But there wasn't a jump in terms of recruiting rep going from BG to Archie.
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Indy paper this morning reported Archie is still 2 over the limit after the kid declaring with an agent. Two others might declare but have not, and Archie is working on the one other HS senior who decommitted. No room at the inn for Wright.
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Who knows, maybe with AG's experience as an assistant coach in the pros he may even be able to recruit 4 star athletes where in the past 3 stars are the highest UD could get (Chris Wright being the only exception)!
Staten, Derrenbecker, Seibert, Cunningham and Kostas were also 4-star recruits. Obviously, three of those five were transfers. That said, there often isn't a dime's worth of difference between a 3-star and a 4-star. The real difference are the 5-stars -- the top 30 or 40 high school standouts. Everything after that is a bit of a crapshoot.

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Adding a spot for recruits:

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
Archie Miller
Allen Griffen
Tom Ostrom
Bill Comar

CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Anthony Grant
Jordan Davis

CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
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Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
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RECRUITS STILL COMMITTED:
Matej Svoboda
Jordan Pierce

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McKinley Wright

RECRUITS RELEASED FROM NLI (COMMITTED)
Naz Carter - Prep School


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If I had to guess, I'd say Svoboda never comes here either, but there's still a chance that Pierce does. That means we lose 3 of 5. Assuming that stays, my preference would be a grad transfer/JUCO PG, a freshman or transfer PG who has to sit a year, and then pick SG or C. If Pierce ends up leaving, we definitely need a true C, and a JUCO would probably be best with a freshman being next best option.
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Adding a spot for recruits:

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
Archie Miller
Allen Griffen
Tom Ostrom
Bill Comar

CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Anthony Grant
Jordan Davis

CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
Crosby
Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
Landers

RECRUITS STILL COMMITTED:
Matej Svoboda
Jordan Pierce

RECRUITS RELEASED FROM NLI (UNCOMMITTED):
McKinley Wright

RECRUITS RELEASED FROM NLI (COMMITTED)
Naz Carter - Prep School


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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasket...assistant.html
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...nyNxIQkSzwEKJ/
Duesquene reporting Walsh joining his former coach. Staff shrinking, time to fill the cupboard.

Not sure what to make of Svoboda as he has been totally silent unless I missed his tweets.

Carters mother tweeted she loves that place "University of Dayton". Hear we are in on some pg's but we need a grad transfer whom is a hot commodity right now. Surely there is one destined for Dayton's 2017-18 season.

Could have two assistants in the fold by Friday if not sooner. Losing Donnie was a setback to AG's plans.
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I just heard that AG has added Darren Hertz as Special Assistant to the Head Coach.

Was in the same role recently with Groce at Illinois and worked with Grant at Florida.
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I just heard that AG has added Darren Hertz as Special Assistant to the Head Coach.

Was in the same role recently with Groce at Illinois and worked with Grant at Florida.
Interesting to hear of the hiring of an auxiliary staff person before primary assistants. Here is some good info on Hertz, and what his role was at Illinois. Imagine it would be the same at Dayton.

http://www.thechampaignroom.com/2015...the-head-coach

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I just heard that AG has added Darren Hertz as Special Assistant to the Head Coach.

Was in the same role recently with Groce at Illinois and worked with Grant at Florida.
Would Hertz be Comar's replacement then?
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Would Hertz be Comar's replacement then?
Sounds like a very similar role for sure
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