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Old 03-15-2019, 10:14 PM
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Their guards are playing better than ours
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We always suck in the A-10 tournament. No matter the year, the coach, etc. We aren't winning this game, you can just tell.
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French on the bench and they extended their lead.
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Crutcher needs to have more ownership on the court. He hides for minutes at a time.
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We are such a soft team... really highlited when you play a team like this.
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Jeez Josh. He just canít move.
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So as I have said and felt all season long .... I havent been able to figure out this team. They continue to shoot the 3 ball as if they have no other play in BB. No offensive rebounds no defensive rebounds stand around and watch the bouncy ball . I guess if they lose we only might have to suffer through one more game in the NIT. Maybe maybe not.
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0 for 4 on fast breaks. I don't even know why we try them.
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52-45 SLU with 7:50 left... UD Ball
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This team cannot execute a fast break. They throw the ball away every time.
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SLU’s physicality is throwing the Flyers off balance. Everyone except maybe Trey looks out of sorts.

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We always suck in the A-10 tournament. No matter the year, the coach, etc. We aren't winning this game, you can just tell.
Yes our luck if you call it that is beyond gawd offensive . Beginning to think ........ never mind.


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Trying to earn a bid and you don't show up ready to play. The effort has been horrible.
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Playing extraordinarily soft tonight and frankly donít desrve to win up to this point- just man handled. Is there one push left in this team?
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Jeez Josh. He just canít move.
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He moves around like a 50 yr old man. I think his body is just broken down
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:26 PM
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That one exchange reminded me of an old polka song: ďYou can have it; I donít want it; itís too round for me.Ē
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We need more aggressiveness and need to D up. Jordan is our most aggressive offensive player right now. Jalen is just tossing it around the perimeter and making Jordan make plays. That recipe doesn't usually result in a W.
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A neutral site and we don't or haven't done well on these courts.
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Rebounds all even now and Dayton finally getting some offense rebounds
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Love Obi, but this game is exposing why he’s not ready for the NBA...
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This entire game with fluffed passes, soft play, no rebounding, etc is brutal. Where are all the comments about their undying heart. This is pathetic.
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The answer for a zone is to pass high post, and dribble penetrate, pass, backdoor cuts and make open shots and lay ups. Two problems, we don't penetrate and we don't do backdoor cuts
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you dont need my help, as you are smart enough to see it on your own.

No first half free throws, outrebounded, no second chance points in first half, no credible adjustments to the zones, etc.

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Theyíre playing Foreman and French at the point of the zone. Should be able to rotate the ball around the perimeter and get into the lane. Come on, guys! Finish!
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The swing in SLU's favor came on the terrible foul call that gave Obi his second foul. They couldn't risk a third foul. Worst call I've seen all year!
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This game is over...you can't win a game if you cannot get any production from the front line. Josh just looks lost out there. Mikesell is way out of sync. Time to move on to the NIT and hope for a better performance.
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How can a team with different coaches and different players always suck in the A10 tournamemt over such a long stretch of time.
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How can a team with different coaches and different players always suck in the A10 tournamemt over such a long stretch of time.
Our players are not as quick, not as strong, and not as determined as St. Louis. The Billikens play with an attitude. We just didn't show up tonight. I hope we can get some bigger, stronger, quicker, more determined players in here next year.
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The swing in SLU's favor came on the terrible foul call that gave Obi his second foul. They couldn't risk a third foul. Worst call I've seen all year!
I agree; that was a terrible call and Obi was never the same after that.
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So where is Davis. 10 points and broke the zone with penetration.
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I donít get either. I also donít understand pressing at the 2 minute mark. Should have do e that at the 10 minute mark
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No my friend I'm sure he is screaming box out and rebound...he just can't get them to frickin man up and do it...coach is coaching but player aren't playin
When it's the 32nd game of the year and the coach still can't get guys to box out, that falls back on the coach.
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Our players are not as quick, not as strong, and not as determined as St. Louis. The Billikens play with an attitude. We just didn't show up tonight. I hope we can get some bigger, stronger, quicker, more determined players in here next year.
We will be better next year. Help is on the way. This years team was very average. Schedule/competition/results prove it.
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I'm not a fan of the first round bye in a conference tournament for just the reasons we saw tonight. Often teams need a game to get going, and if you get a bye, your opponent has had that game and is coming in off of a win.

Some conferences, like the Horizon, have moved away from the bye format and everyone plays first round. I wish the A10 would, too.
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When it's the 32nd game of the year and the coach still can't get guys to box out, that falls back on the coach.
We were in zone when we had boxing out issues. I disagree to an extent, certain guys just lack the competitiveness that we need to play with the likes of a team built like SLU or VCU. We need an absolute dog. French, Bess, Isabell aren't incredibly gifted players but they make up for it with heart and effort. They are dogs, we arent
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When it's the 32nd game of the year and the coach still can't get guys to box out, that falls back on the coach.
Maybe, but it also speaks to the lack of a bench. Next year, thereís the threat of losing playing time. No excuses in 2019-20.
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He moves around like a 50 yr old man. I think his body is just broken down
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Wonder when the last time Dayton played an entire half and didn't shoot a FT?
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I'm not a fan of the first round bye in a conference tournament for just the reasons we saw tonight. Often teams need a game to get going, and if you get a bye, your opponent has had that game and is coming in off of a win.

Some conferences, like the Horizon, have moved away from the bye format and everyone plays first round. I wish the A10 would, too.
I'll take the double bye every time it's there. SLU played Richmond in their first game, which was Richmond's second game, coming off a win. I'm not buying any of this "get going" theory. Maybe it takes a few minutes into the game to "get going", but no advantage to having played a full game the day before.
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I am not sure how to do a poll, can someone put one up to see who cares about the NIT and who does not?
I will be engaged if we get a chance to play an interesting match up or two - WSU, Indiana, _avier, Alabama.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER View Post
I'll take the double bye every time it's there. SLU played Richmond in their first game, which was Richmond's second game, coming off a win. I'm not buying any of this "get going" theory. Maybe it takes a few minutes into the game to "get going", but no advantage to having played a full game the day before.
I guess I never thought of the A10 structure as having a double bye so much as having seeds 11-14 play in to the main bracket. I'd rather see only seeds 1&2 get a bye to the quarters. In that case, the Flyers at #3 would've played their first game against the #14 seed, instead of the #6, and should've been more likely to come away with a win. Gives a team a chance to work out the tournament kinks against a lower seeded opponent first.

One thing I would like to see, regardless of overall format, would be for the pairings to be re-shuffled every round so the highest remaining seed plays the lowest remaining seed, etc.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by O'side Flyer View Post
I guess I never thought of the A10 structure as having a double bye so much as having seeds 11-14 play in to the main bracket. I'd rather see only seeds 1&2 get a bye to the quarters. In that case, the Flyers at #3 would've played their first game against the #14 seed, instead of the #6, and should've been more likely to come away with a win. Gives a team a chance to work out the tournament kinks against a lower seeded opponent first.

One thing I would like to see, regardless of overall format, would be for the pairings to be re-shuffled every round so the highest remaining seed plays the lowest remaining seed, etc.
Great theory, but itís a nightmare logistically. You would need 6 games the first day and the reshuffling could possibly lead to a team playing a really late game followed by really early game.
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Great theory, but it’s a nightmare logistically. You would need 6 games the first day and the reshuffling could possibly lead to a team playing a really late game followed by really early game.
The women play this bracket format where only the top 2 seeds get a first round bye; they play the first round games at host schools.

Their bracket format would make reshuffling easy for the next round and wouldn't be too hard for the semis, since there are only 2 games to worry about. Shouldn't be too hard to be ready for a 1pm game, regardless of the night before.

Anyway, that's what I'd like.
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Reshuffling will never happen.
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Originally Posted by O'side Flyer View Post
The women play this bracket format where only the top 2 seeds get a first round bye; they play the first round games at host schools.

Their bracket format would make reshuffling easy for the next round and wouldn't be too hard for the semis, since there are only 2 games to worry about. Shouldn't be too hard to be ready for a 1pm game, regardless of the night before.

Anyway, that's what I'd like.
See if Brooklyn becomes lost if you only fill 3 dates on the calendar versus 5.

Reshuffling for the semis sounds doable, until the first coach faces a 1:00 games after winning an 8:30 game. Travis Ford is already whining about his assistants being up until 3 or 4 in the morning game planning the last two nights.
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Originally Posted by LIBob View Post
See if Brooklyn becomes lost if you only fill 3 dates on the calendar versus 5.

Reshuffling for the semis sounds doable, until the first coach faces a 1:00 games after winning an 8:30 game. Travis Ford is already whining about his assistants being up until 3 or 4 in the morning game planning the last two nights.
I know it'll never happen, but I'm a bit of a tournament heretic. I've got even better ideas on how to seed the big dance...
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