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If there was a 3 point line when Smitty played

I have 2 games in my head, I think both were in his junior season.. He scored 52 points vs Loyola - Chicago, but Coach Donoher always said that was not his best game in his opinion...and I agree.. he also scored 44 vs Xavier on 20 of 25 shooting...

I cannot find the game on Youtube or any detailed stats... I wonder how many points he would of scored in either game if there were a 3 point line? I am thinking at least 60 vs Loyola and at least 50 vs Xavier...

if anyone has a DVD of either game, I would be more than happy to pay, and have a copy sent to me...I also feel the UD Sports Dept should somehow, have a DVD on these game for sale, have always thought that... I bet the response would be incredible...it would give those fans who never had the absolute pleasure of watching Smitty view him..

if anyone has or knows if one is available, please let me know...
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I'm not sure his scoring would have been significantly higher, but I'm not sure how deep his jump shots came from. There just wasn't any incentive in those days to shoot any deeper than 18-19 feet. I played with a couple great shooters in high school in the early 80's, and they both killed it from jump shots around the 18 feet mark.

But Smitty would have been a great 3 point shooter if there was incentive to shoot from that distance.
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I have 2 games in my head, I think both were in his junior season.. He scored 52 points vs Loyola - Chicago, but Coach Donoher always said that was not his best game in his opinion...and I agree.. he also scored 44 vs Xavier on 20 of 25 shooting...

I cannot find the game on Youtube or any detailed stats... I wonder how many points he would of scored in either game if there were a 3 point line? I am thinking at least 60 vs Loyola and at least 50 vs Xavier...

if anyone has a DVD of either game, I would be more than happy to pay, and have a copy sent to me...I also feel the UD Sports Dept should somehow, have a DVD on these game for sale, have always thought that... I bet the response would be incredible...it would give those fans who never had the absolute pleasure of watching Smitty view him..

if anyone has or knows if one is available, please let me know...

Never thought of it as much regarding Smitty as I always did Pistol Pete..
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Used to get to the Arena early to watch the freshman team play when Smitty and Sly were on it. Donald was worth it.
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Donald Smith had MANY MANY shots from outside the top of the key and the side, near the end bounds... it certainly would of affected is scoring... why did he take 20 footers? because he could!
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against Xavier, if memory serves me... I believe Donald Smith scored 32 on them in one half! that still may be the UD record for points in a half... shoot he may have 2 of the top 3 scores in one half... I bet he put up a bundle in one half against Loyola...
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If there was a 3 point line back then, good chance Smitty would've been seen as a more valuable player at recruiting time and played for Kentucky or another blue blood rather than UD.
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I saw Donald play in High School at the Fieldhouse. He had incredible range then.
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If there was a 3 point line back then, good chance Smitty would've been seen as a more valuable player at recruiting time and played for Kentucky or another blue blood rather than UD.
I don’t know about Kentucky, but Smitty could have just about named his school. UCLA was among his many suitors, but his family really wanted him to stay home. That and Donoher made him priority No. 1 when he was at Roth. He also made a push for his Roth teammate, Phil Lumpkin, but he wound up at Miami and was a force there. Those two played against each other every year.

Late edit: Now that I think about it, Kentucky wouldn’t have been a consideration for Smitty because Adolph Rupp didn’t recruit his first black player — Thomas Payne — until 1970, Smitty’s freshman year. Rupp was a great coach but a racist who essentially was forced into recruiting Payne. He’d passed on Connie Hawkins and many others when he found out they were black. He did recruit and sign Mike Pratt, a WHITE high school all-American from Meadowdale, a year or two before Smitty came to UD.

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There are some really, really old UD fans on this thread.
I resemble that remark.
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There are some really, really old UD fans on this thread.
Uh, 60 (or vaguely thereabouts) is the new 40. :-)
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I'm not sure his scoring would have been significantly higher, but I'm not sure how deep his jump shots came from. There just wasn't any incentive in those days to shoot any deeper than 18-19 feet. I played with a couple great shooters in high school in the early 80's, and they both killed it from jump shots around the 18 feet mark.

But Smitty would have been a great 3 point shooter if there was incentive to shoot from that distance.

There may not have been any incentive to shoot from deep but in the late 60's and thru the mid 70's there were plenty of guys shooting deep balls. I remember Dwight Lamar regularly firing from 25 -30' deep, 1 night at the Arena against the Flyers he let 1 go from just a couple steps past center court. Pete Maravich?? Donald took at least 20 maybe 25% of his shots beyond what is the 3 point line.
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There are some really, really old UD fans on this thread.
I started listening/watching in 50-51 when I was nine (Norris, Meinecke, Sallee, etc). Those were the days. When the Flyers started going to the NIT, the Pennsylvania and the New York Central Railroads had to put extra cars on the trains out of Dayton headed to NY. How many remember?
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The comments on Donald Smith indicate why they say you had to be there.
First as to the question of whether he would have been a more valuable recruit if there was a three point line. My understanding was that Denny Crum, then the top assistant to John Wooden and his primary recruiter for UCLA had camped out at Donald Smith's home for a chance to get him to UCLA.

Second as to his shooting 18 footers. I only had the privilege of watching him play his Sophomore year but the shots he took at the time were almost all from beyond the three point line. The opposition would often play two men on him and meet him as he was crossing the half court. The Flyers were weak in the front court so the opposition would send a tall forward to play out on him but with his fall away jumper he would consistently, over the top of the much taller defender, drain the basket from well beyond the arc.

In a nationally televised all star game from the Dayton Arena after his senior season, the announcer who was the Dayton Play by Play man at the time was talking up Donald's ability to shoot. The half was winding down and Donald had the ball bringing up court with virtually no time left and still on the other side of the half court line Donald shoots and drains the basket with the announcer saying he can do this all the time.
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Donald Smith did not have one lay up against Loyola that night . I think he would have scored close to 70 points , if there was a 3 point line back then .
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oh my gosh, I just remembered: in his junior year I believe, we played Baldwin Wallace... the game was over midway through the 2nd half... and I swear Donald dribbled maybe, at the most 10 feet past the half court line, and drained it...

story not over: the Baldwin Wallace coach walked around the court, staying out of bounds... and shook Coach Donoher's hand and said something, they were both smiling and laughing.. the next morning, the Dayton Daily News reported this humorous exchange:

BW Coach: Mick, did you teach him that shot?
Donoher: NO! He already knew that shot...

BW Coach: what is this young man's range, Mick?
Donoher laughing: we have not found it yet... he has the green light after he crossed midcourt....
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The comments on Donald Smith indicate why they say you had to be there.

The Flyers were weak in the front court so the opposition would send a tall forward to play out on him but with his fall away jumper he would consistently, over the top of the much taller defender, drain the basket from well beyond the arc.
This is key. No Flyer, EVER, was as good at creating their own shot. Not B-Rob, not Negel, nobody. He didn't find his own shot by finding a soft spot on the court or dribbling and losing the guy guarding him, or by driving among the trees. He, with his back to the basket and 2 men in front guarding him, would do kind of dribble juke to his left, another one to his right and then fade and let go of a rainbow that swished more times than not. He was impossible to guard.
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This is key. No Flyer, EVER, was as good at creating their own shot. Not B-Rob, not Negel, nobody. He didn't find his own shot by finding a soft spot on the court or dribbling and losing the guy guarding him, or by driving among the trees. He, with his back to the basket and 2 men in front guarding him, would do kind of dribble juke to his left, another one to his right and then fade and let go of a rainbow that swished more times than not. He was impossible to guard.
His fade away jump shot was a thing of beauty. I was around 10 when he played. All my friends and I tried to shoot that fadeaway J at the local park.

My friend and I have had this conversation about how many points Smitty would have had against Loyola with a three point line. Our guess was 65-70. And, it was a road game!
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Agree with all these memories of Donald Smith- my first favorite player. I was 12 years old the night UD played UCLA to triple OT. Watched the entire game despite the fact that UD was down at the half though I cannot remember how much (seemed like 11). Anyway, parents said if the game becomes a blowout it was bedtime. To this day, it’s the only UD game where i cried at the end. Donald was a special player. I also concur with others; Donald didn’t take it to the hoop nearly as much as he shot that unstoppable fadeaway. He would have easily score 65-70 against Loyola that day. He was money at the foul line, read somewhere that in his only pro season was 21/21 at the line. Best pure shooter to ever wear a Dayton uniform.
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This is key. No Flyer, EVER, was as good at creating their own shot. Not B-Rob, not Negel, nobody. He didn't find his own shot by finding a soft spot on the court or dribbling and losing the guy guarding him, or by driving among the trees. He, with his back to the basket and 2 men in front guarding him, would do kind of dribble juke to his left, another one to his right and then fade and let go of a rainbow that swished more times than not. He was impossible to guard.
My best friend played for Notre Dame with Austin Carr and Sid Callett, Collis Jones. After we beat them, we met up after the game and he said Smitty was the best pure shooter they had ever seen. I agree...he was impossible to guard
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Agree with all these memories of Donald Smith- my first favorite player. I was 12 years old the night UD played UCLA to triple OT. Watched the entire game despite the fact that UD was down at the half though I cannot remember how much (seemed like 11). Anyway, parents said if the game becomes a blowout it was bedtime. To this day, it’s the only UD game where i cried at the end. Donald was a special player. I also concur with others; Donald didn’t take it to the hoop nearly as much as he shot that unstoppable fadeaway. He would have easily score 65-70 against Loyola that day. He was money at the foul line, read somewhere that in his only pro season was 21/21 at the line. Best pure shooter to ever where a Dayton uniform.
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I agree with all these memories of Donald Smith as well. I was 28, working at Delco Moraine and had only been married two years. I watched the triple overtime game with UCLA from start to finish and leaped out of my seat when Smitty hit a shot from the corner at the buzzer (I think it was at the end of the second overtime) only to find out the basket was made after Donoher called time out from the bench. If anyone has a more accurate memory of the details if I am incorrect please correct me!

If the Flyers would have won that game I am quite sure the future may have changed a little bit. Who knows what would have happened as far as recruiting etc.

Fast forward 45 years, if another local kid with the pure shooting ability of a Donald Smith ever came along (which I doubt will ever happen) the only way the Flyers could land him would have to be that his parents would want him or he personally would want to play close to home. Especially with the popularity of the 3 point line every P5 school in the country would be recruiting him.
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Had Dayton won that game we’d have had a bit of odd history. UCLA started its string of seven straight national championsips against the Flyers in 1967. So Dayton also had the chance to end the string. Instead, NC State got that honor later in the tournament, knocking off the Bruins as David Thompson, Tom Burleson and Monty Towe led the Wolfpack to its first NCAA title.
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Donald Smith had a very unique shot called a step away. Nobody shoots it anymore. Donald developed the shot due to a leg injury earlier in his life. it was impossible to defend.

Numerous players in the area tried to imitate the step away. I tried and could not. No one could. It was uniquely Smitty.

The step away was a pivot stop in which Smitty moved forward at high speed almost sideways. Smitty stopped with shoulders not square but more like perpendicular to the basketball. The defender would be fooled by the front foot. Smitty would stop on a dime, then lean backwards (step away) and shoot off the back foot while leaning baskwards. It was not a jump shot, but more like a jump stop, lean back away from the basket. Impossible to defend. For us who tried to imitate it, the shot was impossible to execute.

I'm not doing it justice trying to describe it. I tried to look up a video of Smitty shooting the step away, but could not find any footage.

I was younger than Smitty so I never played against him until a pick up game late in his life. His health was not good then but he still the shake and bake moves as well. I remember guarding him and being more in awe than his defender. I felt like the players in the Olympics who wanted the Dream Team autographs.
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Donald Smith had a very unique shot called a step away. Nobody shoots it anymore. Donald developed the shot due to a leg injury earlier in his life. it was impossible to defend.

Numerous players in the area tried to imitate the step away. I tried and could not. No one could. It was uniquely Smitty.

The step away was a pivot stop in which Smitty moved forward at high speed almost sideways. Smitty stopped with shoulders not square but more like perpendicular to the basketball. The defender would be fooled by the front foot. Smitty would stop on a dime, then lean backwards (step away) and shoot off the back foot while leaning baskwards. It was not a jump shot, but more like a jump stop, lean back away from the basket. Impossible to defend. For us who tried to imitate it, the shot was impossible to execute.

I'm not doing it justice trying to describe it. I tried to look up a video of Smitty shooting the step away, but could not find any footage.

I was younger than Smitty so I never played against him until a pick up game late in his life. His health was not good then but he still the shake and bake moves as well. I remember guarding him and being more in awe than his defender. I felt like the players in the Olympics who wanted the Dream Team autographs.
I'll try and add to the description. It was like his back was arched and left knee was cocked up to up just above his waste while his right foot was almost(if not fully) touching the ground. At least that's how I have it pictured in my memory.
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If there were some game films of Donald Smith showing his prowess with this step away shot that no one seemed to be able to duplicate they would be like gold and like steverino015 stated I bet the response would be incredible. The young fans who never had the pleasure of watching him play would really get a treat!
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Lord, all these memories. I’m around springboro’s age, having turned 12 between UD 97 ND 82 and UD 100 UCLA 111. I remember Smitty’s fallaway like it was yesterday. I’d sit with my dad at the games, and he was usually pretty calm, but when the offense would bog down, he’d yell, “Give it to Smitty and let him shoot!” Was at that All-Star game at The Arena after Smitty’s senior season, and had forgotten about that shot until reading the memory of it above. He’s still one of my top 3 or 4 Flyers from among those I was blessed to have seen in person. As class an act as there ever was on a basketball court.

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A key factor in the success of Smitty’s step-away jumper was the fact that Donald was left handed so all of his misdirection was coming from a place that defenders were not accustomed to seeing.

I was at the NABC All Star game at the arena as well. My wife and I bought our tickets outside the building from Flyer forward Joe Fisher.
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As a kid I just loved basketball (a passion handed down to me by my father)... so it was obviously a thrill for me, whenever I got to see a UD game in person in my youth.

My dad would always buy me a program, so I could keep each of the players scores... I'll never forget being in the Arena, and circling those "2's" in the program when Smitty played.

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Dayton played Duquesne, at Duquesne and in this game the Dukes had a player come off the bench they called "instant offense"... it is now in the 2nd half, and on perhaps 5 to 6 possessions, both teams isolated and let Donald Smith and this Duquesne player go one on one... I yelled for Dad to watch this.. the fans gave Donald Smith several ovations, they were standing and watching every time these two went at it!!

peeps, it wound up being Donald Smith vs Norm Nixon!.... my gawd, it was incredible...the Flyers took Smitty out with maybe 5 minutes to go... the Duquesne crowd was shouting: NO!!! Bless their hearts, they did not want Donald Smith taken out of the game... very enjoyable...

who won? I don't even remember, for that one game it was unimportant
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Dayton played Duquesne, at Duquesne and in this game the Dukes had a player come off the bench they called "instant offense"... it is now in the 2nd half, and on perhaps 5 to 6 possessions, both teams isolated and let Donald Smith and this Duquesne player go one on one... I yelled for Dad to watch this.. the fans gave Donald Smith several ovations, they were standing and watching every time these two went at it!!

peeps, it wound up being Donald Smith vs Norm Nixon!.... my gawd, it was incredible...the Flyers took Smitty out with maybe 5 minutes to go... the Duquesne crowd was shouting: NO!!! Bless their hearts, they did not want Donald Smith taken out of the game... very enjoyable...

who won? I don't even remember, for that one game it was unimportant
Looking through media guide, Flyers never played Duquesne in Smitty's 3 seasons. They did play Biscayne. Could that be who you were thinking of?
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The big buildup with Duquesne was supposed to be Norm Nixon vs. Johnny Davis, as I recall. But that was a bust because Davis ended up having to sit it out with some kind of injury.
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The big buildup with Duquesne was supposed to be Norm Nixon vs. Johnny Davis, as I recall. But that was a bust because Davis ended up having to sit it out with some kind of injury.
that could be, I may be combining two different games in my head... I do remember hollering for Dad to watch this guy from Duquesne, I had never heard of Norm Nixon...man, he was incredible...

so, very well could of been two different games I am adding together lol... not going by media guide, going by my faulty memory....

shoot, I also thought I remembered Ron Harper going against Erv Giddings in a game... but I'm not sure they played at the same time...

I DO REMEMBER that 35 foot shot against Baldwin Wallace, and the coach walking around the outside of the court, joking with Coach Donoher... who was the coach? He seemed to be a really fun coach to play for, and the UD crowd liked him...forget who it was...
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Donald Smith. What a great player.

During high school I'd moved from Indiana to Kettering in 1972, and was disappointed in the state of Ohio high school basketball compared to what I'd grown up with in Indiana.

But in the spring of 1974, my Dad and I went to our first Dayton Flyers game at UD Arena. We sat in the top row southwest corner to see the Flyers tear apart #2 Notre Dame. Donald Smith was unstoppable - ND put every player they had on him but none could defend him. The crowd was the loudest I've ever been a part of, including those great games against eggzavier and Pitt.

That was the game that made me a Flyers fan.

Here's a link to a game story from the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/03/05/a...ted-press.html
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I have to echo what others have said - Donald Smith is my all time favorite Flyer and to me the most entertaining player that ever donned a Flyer uniform and second place is not close! (Second place would have to be Velvet - Someone should start a thread - Most entertaining Flyer of all time)

To watch him shoot his fade away/step back/whatever you want to call it - was a thing of beauty. I can't think of another player who reminds me of his shooting style on the court. Period!

After the Loyola game I remember going out to shoot and pretending to be Donald and trying to emulate his shot. I am sure I was not even close.
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Found it! Video of the UD vs. UCLA triple overtime game from 1974:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJg8ascePUw

Mike Sylvester was the guy who went off in this game and Joe Fisher was 6-6 and 3-3 from the line plus had to cover Walton.

The first highlight is a Donald Smith step back jumper.

NOTE: the video has a tendency to jump ahead but it's the full game

Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows View Post
A key factor in the success of Smitty’s step-away jumper was the fact that Donald was left handed so all of his misdirection was coming from a place that defenders were not accustomed to seeing.

I was at the NABC All Star game at the arena as well. My wife and I bought our tickets outside the building from Flyer forward Joe Fisher.
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I went to that same all-star game. My one memory is of Donald getting the ball about 25 feet out on one of the first possessions and draining the shot. The defender just looked at him like what the....
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Donald Smith. What a great player.

During high school I'd moved from Indiana to Kettering in 1972, and was disappointed in the state of Ohio high school basketball compared to what I'd grown up with in Indiana.

But in the spring of 1974, my Dad and I went to our first Dayton Flyers game at UD Arena. We sat in the top row southwest corner to see the Flyers tear apart #2 Notre Dame. Donald Smith was unstoppable - ND put every player they had on him but none could defend him. The crowd was the loudest I've ever been a part of, including those great games against eggzavier and Pitt.

That was the game that made me a Flyers fan.

Here's a link to a game story from the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/03/05/a...ted-press.html
Donald Smith had 12 points in the first half, and 20 in the 2nd half...bam!... I THOUGHT, may be wrong, that Jerome Holland came of the bench for 12 - 16 points... I could see Digger red faced and screaming at his players, pointing at Jerome Holland... I'll bet he yelled to his team and coaches: WHO THE HE!! IS THIS GUY!!...loudest I have ever heard UD Arena... we stayed in our seats and were one of the last ones to go...

I spent some time chatting with a couple of the cheerleaders, they were cute....)
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows View Post
Found it! Video of the UD vs. UCLA triple overtime game from 1974:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJg8ascePUw

Mike Sylvester was the guy who went off in this game and Joe Fisher was 6-6 and 3-3 from the line plus had to cover Walton.

The first highlight is a Donald Smith step back jumper.

NOTE: the video has a tendency to jump ahead but it's the full game

Enjoy!
watching it right now Swampy, thanks again.. it is 5 minutes to go in the first half, we are down 13, UCLA was so efficient... but by gosh we had big HEART....)
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I spent some time chatting with a couple of the cheerleaders, they were cute....)
Prove it...
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Great video. Amazing how the coaches just sat in their seats during play. Was that a rule then? Also we seemed to have a lot of quad or hammy injuries based on the thigh wraps on a couple of guys.
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Just checked out the box score and a few interesting things:
- We only played 7 guys...didn't Donoher know you can't win with just 7 guys???
- Assists must have been given out more leniently as UCLA only had 10 on 51 FG's and we had 14 on 40.
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Just checked out the box score and a few interesting things:
- We only played 7 guys...didn't Donoher know you can't win with just 7 guys???
- Assists must have been given out more leniently as UCLA only had 10 on 51 FG's and we had 14 on 40.
Playing seven players is easier when the opposition plays only seven players. As you watch the game, you notice defense is nowhere as physical as it today. That is what wears down the players.
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows View Post
Found it! Video of the UD vs. UCLA triple overtime game from 1974:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJg8ascePUw

Mike Sylvester was the guy who went off in this game and Joe Fisher was 6-6 and 3-3 from the line plus had to cover Walton.

The first highlight is a Donald Smith step back jumper.

NOTE: the video has a tendency to jump ahead but it's the full game

Enjoy!
Some things that escaped my memory until now. I don't remember Allen Elijah playing so little in that game. I also don't remember Jim Testerman playing so much. Did Elijah foul out early? I know Von Lehman did.

Donald Smith did not have one of his better games. Dayton had very, very few easy buckets. UCLA had a lot of them.
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I watched the game again on YouTube. The first highlight might have been a step aways but the view was blocked. After that< I did not see any of his patented step away shots. He had a great fade away so he would lean back on his normal jump shot too.

Smitty did not have a great game. I' remember much better games from him.

A lot of fouls were called in that game. I forgot that in those days players were responsible to raise their hand and acknowledge a foul committed.

Remember how Sylvester shot? Ball way behind his head.
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I watched the game again on YouTube. The first highlight might have been a step aways but the view was blocked. After that< I did not see any of his patented step away shots. He had a great fade away so he would lean back on his normal jump shot too.

Smitty did not have a great game. I' remember much better games from him.

A lot of fouls were called in that game. I forgot that in those days players were responsible to raise their hand and acknowledge a foul committed.

Remember how Sylvester shot? Ball way behind his head.
The closest to Smitty's normal step back shot was at the 27:01 mark, but he shoots from about 15 feet from the basket. Go 30 seconds past that to the 27:36 mark and he hits another from behind the key.

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BTW, here's the box score to the game. I was wrong in an earlier post when I thought I remembered Von Lehman fouling out, he only had one. Johnny Davis and Donald Smith played all 55 minutes and Sly played 54. You could tell that Davis was gassed by the way he was bricking his free throws and jump shot in the final OT. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...14-dayton.html
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