2020 A-10 Tournament Seeding Probabilities

[Medford]

nah, it was just a few weeks ago where I was of the opinion that I'd rather not see SLU again. Now, I say bring it on, what doesn't kill you can only make you better. Although I'd happily wait until Sunday of that week to match up

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[CoffeeCan]

There is a scenario where we lose to any team we play in the A10 tourney, if you think hard enough. We have to play our game.

If we play our game, we will not lose to any of them.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Medford nah, it was just a few weeks ago where I was of the opinion that I'd rather not see SLU again. Now, I say bring it on, what doesn't kill you can only make you better. Although I'd happily wait until Sunday of that week to match up

Yep. We ARE THE DAYTON ***** FLYERS. Bring on all comers. Just let us know when and where!!!

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[sheg]

No thanks. The boys are tired. They need the easiest possible path to the second round. The 7/8/9/10 seed Big Ten or Big East team they face in the second round will give them all the SLUball they want.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by sheg No thanks. The boys are tired. They need the easiest possible path to the second round. The 7/8/9/10 seed Big Ten or Big East team they face in the second round will give them all the SLUball they want.

I guess SLU's not tired? Or they're just better conditioned? They're certainly not any deeper on the bench. And to emphasize CoffeeCan's point, not sure there IS an easy path thru the A10 tourney. VCU or UMass would be just as challenging on Friday. UMass played us just as well the last time out and VCU's seniors will be playing for their last hurrah. Further, it appears WAY more likely we'd see SLU in the semis vs the quarters. SLU would be in their 3rd game in three days. BRING IT!!!

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[longtimefan]

flyerfanatic86 and I were saying we don't want to see St Louis in the first game. It appears some of you are saying the same thing.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[sheg]

I don't know what the easiest path is, but I know it ain't through Sloo.

[Jeff]

We play as we are capable, and it doesn't matter who we play.

[SeasonTicketFan]

Games are often about matchups. Saint Louis matches up well because of their size and physical play. SLU does not match up well against other teams however.

Matchups do matter.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER I DO want SLU again. I'd like a third bite at that apple to see if we can put the beatdown on them that they deserve. Yes, they match with us well and have done a GREAT job of taking away some of things that we like to do and do well, but I say bring them on again and let US impose our will...…….and shoot maybe 12-20 from three-point range to boot.

3 games in 3 days, I don't want a grinding, physical matchup on day 1. And I don't think that win is going to suddenly catapult us into the 1 seed, it isn't going to be a quad 1 win. I'd much rather end VCU's season or something, that would at least be fun. Anything would be better than watching a rock fight when there are 2 other games immediately after.

[MrFlyerFanatic]

Whoever we play, I hope they need triple OT on Thursday to get to us.

[Ivan]

This is the first I've seen our Flyers tagged as a #1 seed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...to6?li=BBnbfcL

[KYFlyer]

Originally Posted by Ivan This is the first I've seen our Flyers tagged as a #1 seed. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...to6?li=BBnbfcL

There are 20 or more brackets on bracket matrix that have the Flyers as a 1.

[Go-UD-Go]

Hey LIBob, can we get one last prediction? I know we are number one but I am interested in the lower level seeding. And your work is being copied to other A10 forums. You are impacting many others discussions.

[LIBob]

Probabilities Through games of 3/1:

Team                  1st     2nd     3rd     4th     5th     6th     7th     8th     9th    10th    11th    12th    13th    14th Average SeedDouble Bye    Bye
Dayton             100.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        1.00   100.00% 100.00%
Richmond             0.00%  72.75%  16.13%   8.20%   2.91%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        2.41    97.09% 100.00%
Rhode Island         0.00%  25.44%  65.35%   7.95%   1.27%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        2.85    98.73% 100.00%
St Louis             0.00%   1.06%  11.15%  37.39%  24.98%  15.84%   8.67%   0.90%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        4.73    49.61% 100.00%
St Bonaventure       0.00%   0.34%   3.45%  20.31%  35.19%  24.83%  15.03%   0.85%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        5.29    24.10% 100.00%
Duquesne             0.00%   0.41%   3.92%  23.92%  24.94%  29.09%  17.71%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        5.32    28.25% 100.00%
Davidson             0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   2.22%   9.01%  17.90%  38.31%  32.56%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        6.90     2.22% 100.00%
VA Commonwealth      0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   1.69%  12.33%  20.28%  50.24%  15.32%   0.13%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        7.66     0.00% 100.00%
Massachusetts        0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  15.32%  44.47%  21.24%  18.97%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        9.44     0.00%  81.03%
G Washington         0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.13%  14.44%  57.13%  28.31%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%       10.14     0.00%  71.69%
La Salle             0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  25.77%  21.51%  30.60%  22.12%   0.00%   0.00%       10.49     0.00%  47.28%
George Mason         0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  22.12%  77.89%   0.00%   0.00%       11.78     0.00%   0.00%
St Joseph's PA       0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  93.97%   6.03%       13.06     0.00%   0.00%
Fordham              0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   6.03%  93.97%       13.94     0.00%   0.00%
 

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Ahhhh, 100%. Ain't she a pretty thing to look at!

Thank You LIBob for posting your updates throughout the season. See you in November!

[CE80]

Lot's of possibilities but looking like it could be Flyers play winner of VCU/UMass on Friday. SLU on Saturday. Richmond on Sunday.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[udisit19]

SLU and St. Bonaventure, currently in a 3 way tie at 10-6 with Duquesne, will play each other in their final match on March 7th.

Duquesne is 6th but they have a tough last two games. Duquesne goes to play at VCU, then they host Richmond. Richmond is currently hovering around the last 4 out category, so Richmond will be playing for their at large big.

SLU and St. Bonaventure both get matches against the bottom 4 on Wednesday. SLU travels to George Mason, which is obviously not a sure thing. St. Bonaventure will host St. Joes. Two wins for St.Bonaventure should give them a 12-6 record and sole place of 4th. No win is for sure, but Bonaventure should be favored by a lot at home against St. Joes, so Bonaventure should at least get to 11 wins. I think that's why the model above is giving Bonaventure a 35% chance of 4th place.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[udisit19]

Originally Posted by CE80 Lot's of possibilities but looking like it could be Flyers play winner of VCU/UMass on Friday. SLU on Saturday. Richmond on Sunday.

A path against #9 Umass (NET - #142 ) and #5 Bonaventure (NET - #116) would be the easiest path to the championship game based on NET rankings but would give Dayton two more Q3 games.

A path against #8 VCU (NET - #56) and #4 SLU (NET -#57) would be much more difficult.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[KYFlyer]

Originally Posted by udisit19 A path against #9 Umass (NET - #142 ) and #5 Bonaventure (NET - #116) would be the easiest path to the championship game based on NET rankings but would give Dayton two more Q3 games. A path against #8 VCU (NET - #56) and #4 SLU (NET -#57) would be much more difficult.

And borderline Q1 games, #50 needed for neutral Q1.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[MrFlyerFanatic]

I'm predicting Davidson vs GW in the 8-9 game and Bonaventure likely playing Duquesne in a 4-5 match-up on Friday afternoon.
Will be interesting to see if that pesky early home loss to Richmond costs Rhode Island the #2 spot.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by MrFlyerFanatic I'm predicting Davidson vs GW in the 8-9 game and Bonaventure likely playing Duquesne in a 4-5 match-up on Friday afternoon. Will be interesting to see if that pesky early home loss to Richmond costs Rhode Island the #2 spot.

My dream bracket but I don't think it is likely.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[LIBob]

Originally Posted by MrFlyerFanatic I'm predicting Davidson vs GW in the 8-9 game and Bonaventure likely playing Duquesne in a 4-5 match-up on Friday afternoon. Will be interesting to see if that pesky early home loss to Richmond costs Rhode Island the #2 spot.

That's a tough call. GW to 9th probably requires two wins and one of them on Senior Night at the Arena.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[MrFlyerFanatic]

Originally Posted by LIBob That's a tough call. GW to 9th probably requires two wins and one of them on Senior Night at the Arena.

It's actually more linked to UMass losing. GW wins the tie breaker.
UMass has only won 1 road game in conference - Fordham. They go to LaSalle, who isn't playing too bad right now. They also play URI.
GW will lose to UD, but they have Fordham at home.

Davidson has VCU at home and Richmond on the road. Very possible to drop both and have VCU move ahead of them with an additional win over Duquesne at home. If Davidson beats VCU, they have the tie breaker by only losing to UD once.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[CE80]

A couple of big games tonight - Davidson at Richmond and Duquesne at VCU.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[shwag33]

So do we want VCU or Davidson in the 8 spot? 9 is most likely Umass.

I can't decide, they are completely opposite. VCU better chance for a close game, but feel like we win no matter what. Davidson most likely a blowout but who knows they shot well against us just didn't seem like it because we didn't miss.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CT Flyer]

I don't think Davidson can defend us.

[SeasonTicketFan]

We match up inside better against Davidson.

[FlyerFanatic08]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer I don't think Davidson can defend us.

not at all. its a layup line

[CE80]

LIBob - any chance of an update after the 2 results from tonight?

[LIBob]

Probabilities Through games of 3/3:

Team                  1st     2nd     3rd     4th     5th     6th     7th     8th     9th    10th    11th    12th    13th    14th Average SeedDouble Bye    Bye
Dayton             100.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        1.00   100.00% 100.00%
Richmond             0.00%  88.20%  11.80%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        2.12   100.00% 100.00%
Rhode Island         0.00%  11.80%  79.19%   4.40%   4.62%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        3.02    95.38% 100.00%
Duquesne             0.00%   0.00%   4.62%  49.75%  26.09%  19.55%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        4.61    54.36% 100.00%
St Louis             0.00%   0.00%   4.40%  22.71%  47.08%  19.57%   6.24%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        5.01    27.11% 100.00%
St Bonaventure       0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  23.15%  22.22%  48.73%   5.91%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        5.37    23.15% 100.00%
Davidson             0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  12.14%  49.66%  38.20%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        7.26     0.00% 100.00%
VA Commonwealth      0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  38.20%  27.47%  33.89%   0.44%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        7.97     0.00% 100.00%
Massachusetts        0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  33.89%  26.43%  20.75%  18.93%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%        9.25     0.00%  81.07%
G Washington         0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.44%  14.09%  57.31%  28.16%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%       10.13     0.00%  71.84%
La Salle             0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  25.59%  21.50%  30.72%  22.19%   0.00%   0.00%       10.50     0.00%  47.09%
George Mason         0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  22.19%  77.81%   0.00%   0.00%       11.78     0.00%   0.00%
St Joseph's PA       0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%  94.07%   5.93%       13.06     0.00%   0.00%
Fordham              0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   0.00%   5.93%  94.07%       13.94     0.00%   0.00%

[CE80]

LIBob - will you be in Brooklyn? I’d like to buy you a beer.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by CE80 LIBob - will you be in Brooklyn? I’d like to buy you a beer.

I should have added- you do God’s work.

[shwag33]

Who would have thought.... our path through the A10 it shaping up like VCU -> SLU -> URI/RICH


Although Duq has beaten SLU twice already.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by shwag33 Who would have thought.... our path through the A10 it shaping up like VCU -> SLU -> URI/RICH Although Duq has beaten SLU twice already.

Interesting that VCU's highest probability is 7 at 38% but combined 8/9 is 62%. Also, UMass with a 60% probability to end up in 8/9 game. I would not automatically move VCU to the next game.

Duquesne 76% probability to end up in 4 or 5 slot. SLU 70% to end up 4 or 5. So it does look like a Duquesne - SLU showdown and as you stated, Duquesne has beaten SLU twice this season.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[shwag33]

Originally Posted by CE80 Interesting that VCU's highest probability is 7 at 38% but combined 8/9 is 62%. Also, UMass with a 60% probability to end up in 8/9 game. I would not automatically move VCU to the next game. Duquesne 76% probability to end up in 4 or 5 slot. SLU 70% to end up 4 or 5. So it does look like a Duquesne - SLU showdown and as you stated, Duquesne has beaten SLU twice this season.

I realize it's not likely to go all chalk, but it's crazy to me that its probably the most likely scenario at this point.

A month ago VCU was a 9 seed in the NCAA.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by shwag33 I realize it's not likely to go all chalk, but it's crazy to me that its probably the most likely scenario at this point. A month ago VCU was a 9 seed in the NCAA.

Oh for sure. VCU favored going into last night's game with Duquesne. Prior to that, Duquesne had a 28% probability of top 4, 46% of 6/7. Now 55% at top 4 and now only 20% 6 or worse.

I could (and probably will) do this all day.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by LIBob Probabilities Through games of 3/3: Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th Average SeedDouble Bye Bye Rhode Island 0.00% 11.80% 79.19% 4.40% 4.62% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.02 95.38% 100.00%

LIBob: I don't see any situation where Rhode Island can get 5th spot.

Richmond is 13-4, they can only get to 13-5, so wouldn't be in discussion. Bonaventure and Louis are both at 11-6, but play each other, so only 1 can be there. And Duquesne has 6 losses.

Rhode Island is 1-0 against Duquesne and Bonaventure, and 0-1 versus Saint Louis. But, Saint Louis is 0-2 against Duquesne.

I can't find the 3-way tie that would put URI last based on head-to-head results.

Figgie

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Medford]

Rhody drops their last 2 to get to 6 losses. Ends up in a tie w/ SLU & Duquesne @ 6 losses. So the first tie breaker is head to head in the group. Duquesne, by virture of their 2 wins over SLU would be 2-1. SLU would be 1-2, Rhody would be 1-1 (beat Duquesne, lost to SLU). So Duquesne gets the 3 seed. Then the tie breaker is re-done, SLU vs Rhody, which SLU won, so SLU gets the 4, Rhody ends up with the 5 seed.


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IF UD wins @ Rhody, is it that crazy to think Rhody could be half asleep and lose @ UMass next weekend? Is it that crazy to think that SLU wins @ Mason and home vs Bona? Is it that Crazy to think that Duquesne dumps Richmond @ home next weekend fresh off a huge win with a sparkle in their eye?


For A-10's sake and to keep Juan Bid at the door, but outside the party, we want Richmond to win this weekend, then win 1 or 2 in Brooklyn. Course we ain't so worried about the A-10 this evening, crush the Rams!

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by Medford Rhody drops their last 2 to get to 6 losses. Ends up in a tie w/ SLU & Duquesne @ 6 losses. So the first tie breaker is head to head in the group. Duquesne, by virture of their 2 wins over SLU would be 2-1. SLU would be 1-2, Rhody would be 1-1 (beat Duquesne, lost to SLU). So Duquesne gets the 3 seed. Then the tie breaker is re-done, SLU vs Rhody, which SLU won, so SLU gets the 4, Rhody ends up with the 5 seed.

Incorrect.

Since no teams are tied at head-to-head, they don't move on. So Duquesne is first in the group at 2-1, Rhode is second at 1-1 and SLU is third at 1-2.

From the 2018 A10 bracket article

... tiebreakers were necessary in the seeding for the Championship. George Mason, Saint Louis, Richmond and VCU are all tied at 9-9. The multi-team tiebreaker separated out the fifth-seeded Patriots and eight-seeded VCU. The Billikens and Spiders reverted to the head-to-head tiebreaker, with SLU beating Richmond twice during the regular season.

The tiebreakers aren't meant to only choose 1 team. They choose all teams if possible. Since all 3 teams this year have different head-to-head records, therefore, it determines all seeds in the tiebreaker.

Figgie

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[LIBob]

Originally Posted by CE80 LIBob - will you be in Brooklyn? I’d like to buy you a beer.

Yes, I will be in Brooklyn.

[Medford]

Stolen from the A-10 board, which I assume (possibly my fatal flaw) was stolen from the A-10 rules book:


Three or More-Team Tie

1. Head-to-head competition.

a. Use each team’s record against the tied teams as a group rather than performance
against individual teams. When comparing records against a group of teams, the higher
winning percentage will prevail. In case of tied percentages vs. the team or group of
1.000 or .000, the following shall apply: 2-0 is better than 1-0; 0-1 is better than 0-2.

2. If the above results in two teams remaining, the two-team tiebreaker is used.


So the 1a seperates out Duquesne, then we revert to step 2 which is a head to head, that assumes that information is true. Thankfully the Flyers are locked into a 1 and don't have to worry about it

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by Medford Stolen from the A-10 board, which I assume (possibly my fatal flaw) was stolen from the A-10 rules book: Three or More-Team Tie 1. Head-to-head competition. a. Use each team’s record against the tied teams as a group rather than performance against individual teams. When comparing records against a group of teams, the higher winning percentage will prevail. In case of tied percentages vs. the team or group of 1.000 or .000, the following shall apply: 2-0 is better than 1-0; 0-1 is better than 0-2. 2. If the above results in two teams remaining, the two-team tiebreaker is used. So the 1a seperates out Duquesne, then we revert to step 2 which is a head to head, that assumes that information is true. Thankfully the Flyers are locked into a 1 and don't have to worry about it

I admit that it isn't intuitive, but nowhere in there does it say that only the first team is seeded based on 1a, and it doesn't explicitly state in 2 that the two teams remaining are tied teams. But, as the A10 article explicitly states, 5th and 8th were decided from 1a, and 6th and 7th continued to step 2 because they were both at .500.

You may close Medstats, Inc. at anytime.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Medford]

Medstats, Inc. stays open, I'm starting a gofundme page, no promises that money isn't spent on beer however


One difference from the 2018 version is that there were 4 teams in that mix, so did step 1 place teams a & d, then B & C were left back to a 2 team tie breaker? Is it a case where a got separated out, then team d was still in last place in the new 3 team tie breaker, so they got dumped, then it reverted back to team b & c for the middle spots? All the article stats, is that in 2018, Rule 1a separated out Mason & VCU, could have been two separate 1a tie breakers done. Ie, first tiebreaker was Mason, VCU and teams B & C, Mason wins out so they move on. Then another multi-team tiebreaker grouping is formed, and B & C win out over VCU so VCU is dumped "down" the bracket and they are back to a 2 team tie breaker between B & C.


My head's spinning now



I honestly don't know, the way I've always understood it, across multiple conferences is that the multi-team tie breaker is done, then once a team is the clear winner (or losser), the remaining group is then re-calculated, typically you don't see many 4 team tie breakers.

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by Medford Medstats, Inc. stays open, I'm starting a gofundme page, no promises that money isn't spent on beer however

Please reconsider, you're losing the battle here.

Originally Posted by Medford One difference from the 2018 version is that there were 4 teams in that mix, so did step 1 place teams a & d, then B & C were left back to a 2 team tie breaker? Is it a case where a got separated out, then team d was still in last place in the new 3 team tie breaker, so they got dumped, then it reverted back to team b & c for the middle spots? All the article stats, is that in 2018, Rule 1a separated out Mason & VCU, could have been two separate 1a tie breakers done. Ie, first tiebreaker was Mason, VCU and teams B & C, Mason wins out so they move on. Then another multi-team tiebreaker grouping is formed, and B & C win out over VCU so VCU is dumped "down" the bracket and they are back to a 2 team tie breaker between B & C.

The article specifically states, "The multi-team tiebreaker separated out the fifth-seeded Patriots and eight-seeded VCU. The Billikens and Spiders reverted to the head-to-head tiebreaker". The multi-team tiebreaker separated out fifth and eigth. Then SLU and Richmond were send to head-to-head. How could SLU/Richmond be head-to-head, if it went to a 3 team tie-break? A 3 team tie-break would have resulted in the same seeding, but it would have been SLU 2-1 against Ric/VCU, and Richmond beat VCU head-to-head twice.

Originally Posted by Medford My head's spinning now

That's why you don't spend your GoFundMe money on beer.

Originally Posted by Medford I honestly don't know, the way I've always understood it, across multiple conferences is that the multi-team tie breaker is done, then once a team is the clear winner (or losser), the remaining group is then re-calculated, typically you don't see many 4 team tie breakers.

Multiple conferences do things multiple ways. Sure, they may mostly work the same, but I've seen inconsistencies in the past regarding this. And, again, it's where this 3-team tiebreak favors the 3rd team over a 2nd team in a weird situation.

Figgie

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Medford]

I'm gonna bow out, but I'm still accepting funds at my gofundme page, subisidiary to figgie, Inc.

[MrFlyerFanatic]

UMass vs VCU on Thursday. Winner plays the Flyers.

EDIT: This may not be accurate as I did not consider a 3-way tie at 9-9. I believe a UMass win vs URI and a VCU win at Davidson could change this to UMass vs Davidson.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[frisco flyer]

Andy Katz think we’re deserving of a 1 seed.

https://twitter.com/theandykatz/stat...022935552?s=21

[CE80]

Originally Posted by MrFlyerFanatic UMass vs VCU on Thursday. Winner plays the Flyers. EDIT: This may not be accurate as I did not consider a 3-way tie at 9-9. I believe a UMass win vs URI and a VCU win at Davidson could change this to UMass vs Davidson.

I think UMass gets the 7 in a 3 team tie with VCU and Davidson. They are 1-1 against the other 2. The other 2 would be 1-2. Then 2 team tie breaker would put VCU at 8 and Davidson at 9.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by CE80 I think UMass gets the 7 in a 3 team tie with VCU and Davidson. They are 1-1 against the other 2. The other 2 would be 1-2. Then 2 team tie breaker would put VCU at 8 and Davidson at 9.

And I think UMass will probably beat URI on Saturday.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer And I think UMass will probably beat URI on Saturday.

I'm with you. I think URI is toast. Too bad. They have a good fan base. I'd like to see them get some reward.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[John C.]

Rooting for Duquesne, St. Bonnie and GM this weekend! Just would prefer not to see St. Louis again this season.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by John C. Rooting for Duquesne, St. Bonnie and GM this weekend! Just would prefer not to see St. Louis again this season.

I think it's root for Richmond, SLU and UMass to put SLU in the 3 seed.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Wright_/s...140156421?s=20

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[John C.]

@Duquesne is toast to I now have changed to root for Umas and St.Louis. 🙄

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[UD94]

I haven't seen it posted here, but it will indeed be 1 Dayton vs. 8 UMass or 9 VCU Friday at noon.

Other teams to have locked up their seeds as of Friday:

2 Richmond
7 Davidson
12 George Mason

Rhode Island will be 3 or 4

If SB beats SL tomorrow, both 3 RI and 6 SL go to other side of bracket, with 4 SB 5 DUQ
If SL beats SB, SL will be 3 with RI loss and 4 with RI win (SB 5 DUQ 6 in both scenarios since SB beat Richmond)

10 GW 11 LaSalle unless GW loses (which they will) and LaSalle wins against Joes (which they probably will), which would make it 10 LaSalle 11 GW forced to play Wednesday

And if anyone cares, it will be 13 Joes 14 Fordham unless Fordham wins (Mason) and Joes loses (LaSalle), which is possible in which case 13 Fordham 14 Joes

I think the above is accurate, we'll know soon enough how it shakes out.

Go Bonnies!!!

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by UD94 If SB beats SL tomorrow, both 3 RI and 6 SL go to other side of bracket, with 4 SB 5 DUQ If SL beats SB, SL will be 3 with RI loss and 4 with RI win (SB 5 DUQ 6 in both scenarios since SB beat Richmond)

I have no concern where URI ends up. I like SLU on the other side of the bracket. I think the key is the UMass - URI game. If UMass wins, SLU ends up as the 3 with a win v SBU and the 6 with a loss. So with a UMass win, SLU ends up on the other side of the bracket regardless of the outcome of their game.

Go Minutemen!!

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[sheg]

I was just trying to make sense of it too. It looks like UD94 nailed it. The Dayton/GW, LaSalle/SJU, and Fordham/GMU have no implications for the top half seeding. The only games that matter for that are URI@UMass [7pm) and SBU@SLU (8pm).

If URI wins

And SBU wins
3 URI
4 SBU
5 DUQ
6 SLU

And SLU wins
3 URI
4 SLU
5 SBU
6 DUQ

If UMass wins

And SBU wins
3 URI
4 SBU
5 DUQ
6 SLU

And SLU wins
3 SLU
4 URI
5 SBU
6 DUQ

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[MD Flyer Pride]

A10 Tournament Bracket is up...

https://atlantic10.com/documents/202...BB_Bracket.pdf



Go Flyers!

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by UD94 I haven't seen it posted here, but it will indeed be 1 Dayton vs. 8 UMass or 9 VCU Friday at noon. . .

Rooting for VCU here, as I think UMass is the tougher out - Tre Mitchell is not a rookie anymore.

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	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.