Kostas update

[lhsgolf19]

David Jablonski‏Verified account @DavidPJablonski 3m3 minutes ago

An injury update on @DaytonMBB's Kostas Antetokounmpo
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...6xDTcqaOKAG0J/

“It was diagnosed as a bone bruise on his knee,” Grant said. “He’s doing treatment and rehab daily with our trainer. It probably will be mid to late September before we get him back on the court.”

Grant expects Antetokounmpo to be ready for the start of the season. Until he returns to practice, he’s going through a daily routine with trainer Mike Mulcahey.


Close the other thread lol

[flyerfanatic86]

On the one hand, he said a bone bruise. But on the other hand, he provided a timeline. I'm used to Archie bone bruises being career threatening.

[C-time]

Is Archie still in charge of the injury report? Do the doctors at UD just call everything a bone bruise? Has any team ever had more bone bruises than UD?

(BTW we need a ROFL smilie which is what I wanted to use)

The real question is how deep is the bruise?

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by C-time The real question is how deep is the bruise?

It's a grade 14. (Don't ask what the scale is.)

Joking

[C-time]

Originally Posted by Gazoo It's a grade 14. (Don't ask what the scale is.) Joking

Grade 14 sounds about right but I heard the outer inner tibial central transverse plate is only a grade 8 which is great news!!!!!!

[San Diego Flyer]

omg, we might as well keep the other thread open. Here goes this one.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer omg, we might as well keep the other thread open. Here goes this one.

Ray Harper disagrees and doesn't believe in bone bruises either!

[jack72]

Wilt the Stilt had a deep bone bruise when he visited UD, but he had breakfast at the Gibson and it cleared it up.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Hoping Kostas will be at full speed by time conference play starts... enable us to close out on those tough A-10 guards - as he'll help protect the rim.

Kostas and Xerius are both athletic enough to become our new version of Chris Wright-Charles Little - on the defensive end of the court (block party!!!).

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel Hoping Kostas will be at full speed by time conference play starts... enable us to close out on those tough A-10 guards - as he'll help protect the rim. Kostas and Xerius are both athletic enough to become our new version of Chris Wright-Charles Little - on the defensive end of the court (block party!!!).

If he is back by mid to late September like everything has been suggested, there is no reason to think he would not be full speed when the season starts. Practices do not even start until the end of September. He would have 42 days of practice before the first game.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel Hoping Kostas will be at full speed by time conference play starts... enable us to close out on those tough A-10 guards - as he'll help protect the rim. Kostas and Xerius are both athletic enough to become our new version of Chris Wright-Charles Little - on the defensive end of the court (block party!!!).

block party is outstanding

[TX Flyer]

How deep will the bruise have penetrated by mid September?

[rollo]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer How deep will the bruise have penetrated by mid September?

This professional athlete was off her back and back to work the next day, so I bet Kostas recovers quickly.

[TXFlyerFan]

I saw Block Party open for Green Day at River Bend

[C-time]

Kostas doing a basketball drill!!!!

https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...48068337610754

He has a sleeve on his left knee. I will leave all further speculation and analysis to all of the UDpride doctors.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Heard on a radio broadcast that he is doing all the non contact drills in practice.

[San Diego Flyer]

In keeping with the rampant skepticism in the world today, how do we know that is really Kostas?

[jack72]

I am staying at a Holiday Inn Express tonight, so will let you know the definitive word in the morning.

[FlyerBob]

OK it's only a 5 second video of Kostas ball handling, under no defensive pressure.... but was anyone else imprssed with his quickness and coordination for a big man? Dude seems to have skills.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by FlyerBob OK it's only a 5 second video of Kostas ball handling, under no defensive pressure.... but was anyone else imprssed with his quickness and coordination for a big man? Dude seems to have skills.

A 5 second video of ball handling leads you to a conclusion?

[oldfan]

Originally Posted by Radar A 5 second video of ball handling leads you to a conclusion?

A five second video can tell you a lot especially if you have an eye for talent and skill. Based on that five second video Kostas should be the seventeenth player drafted in the first round of the 2020 draft when he comes out early.

[FlyerBob]

Originally Posted by Radar A 5 second video of ball handling leads you to a conclusion?

Fair point and my comment can seem very silly can't it? - but I can assure you that I could never handle a BB that well, nor anyone I have played with. Sometimes natural ability just jumps at you. I saw similar (but different) athleticism in XW last year at the Duquesne game here in Pittsburgh.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by FlyerBob OK it's only a 5 second video of Kostas ball handling, under no defensive pressure.... but was anyone else imprssed with his quickness and coordination for a big man? Dude seems to have skills.

For a big man? Yes. If he's being guarded by Sam Miller he'll score 100 points per game. But he will eventually need to handle the ball well (no qualifier). He'll be guarded on the wing by someone like Charles Cooke.

But he's young, and I am hopeful for great things to come.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Gazoo For a big man? Yes. If he's being guarded by Sam Miller he'll score 100 points per game.

That was an unnecessary cheap shot. Sam has been through a lot lately, lay off.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by ud2 That was an unnecessary cheap shot. Sam has been through a lot lately, lay off.

Jesus, Frances, lighten up--I didn't say Sam was a horrible defender or a horrible person, I just used him as an example of [insert generic big man who doesn't guard ball handlers on the wing very often or well]. You disagree??

Would you rather I use Big Steve? Of course not. Jordan Pierce? Never played a game yet. Dwight Howard? Then people b**ch about false equivalence, Howard is a pro and probably could guard many college players on the wing. Kurt Huelsman? Then you'd complain that there's no point in drudging up someone from so long ago.

Drink a beer. It's Friday.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

I was impressed. Plus a 3 pt shot????
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[TheSixthMan]

Please get UD2 a beer!
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[FlyerBob]

From DDN- “Kostas is one of a kind,” Darrell Davis said. “His talent was blessed. It can’t be coached. If he keeps putting in the work, he has a chance to be in the NBA.”

Sounds **** promising. I hope we can keep him 3 years- likely a stretch if he's that good.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by TheSixthMan Please get UD2 a beer! Posted via Mobile Device

Sorry I missed the beers being passed out yesterday. I'll take one today.
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[THirt]

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...ef=cbTopWidget
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[C-time]

Originally Posted by THirt http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...ef=cbTopWidget Posted via Mobile Device

So Kostas' Nigerian name is Ndubuisi. Bucky should be happy he goes by his Greek name.

And for all of you have turned this into a thread about whether we should all be nice or mean to UD players why don't you start your own thread or go to private messages with an argument that we all know is never going to end.

[DallasFlyer]

Originally Posted by C-time So Kostas' Nigerian name is Ndubuisi. Bucky should be happy he goes by his Greek name.

Not so sure... I mean I really don't know how the Nigerian alphabet works, so I can't rule out the possibility Ndubuisi is actually pronounced BUD-WHY-ZURR.

[rollo]

To show my support for Gazoo I will kneel down in my office every time someone posts something that in any way, shape or form isn't 100% supportive of his constitutionally protected thoughts and feelings.

[UDTradition]

Originally Posted by rollo To show my support for Gazoo I will kneel down in my office every time someone posts something that in any way, shape or form isn't 100% supportive of his constitutionally protected thoughts and feelings.

I'm not trying to get on a soap box and cause controversy, my message is plain and simple...it would be great if we all try not to unnecessarily ridicule or embarrass players that represent our university. All of us would love to take shots at SM for his unexplainable antics but refrain out of respect for the player, player's family and the university.

I thrive on factual discussions with some sort of logical and controversial opinion but part ways when (in an open forum) the cheap shots begin

[Flyers98]

I'm all for being sensitive but facts are still facts. Sam Miller is not a talented defender. Is it because he is big and not that quick on the wing? Maybe. Is it because his defensive effort is often lacking? Maybe. Regardless of the reason, still a fact.

A cheap shot would have been to reference his boxing prowess.

[UDTradition]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 I'm all for being sensitive but facts are still facts. Sam Miller is not a talented defender. Is it because he is big and not that quick on the wing? Maybe. Is it because his defensive effort is often lacking? Maybe. Regardless of the reason, still a fact. A cheap shot would have been to reference his boxing prowess.

Now that's funny................................

[do54]

Grow up guys

[big jordan]

Offseason UD Pride is an awful, awful place. Basically every thread devolves into an embarassing place

Regarding Kostas - I'm most interested to see if he can run the offense. The Bucks unleasing "Point Giannis" was an awesome development. I know Giannis is in another stratosphere, but hopefully some skills have been developed, as apparently they work out a good amount together. Especially with the lack of solid PGs on the roster, having Kostas handle ballhandling/playmaking would be great
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[rollo]

Originally Posted by big jordan Regarding Kostas - I'm most interested to see if he can run the offense.

Run the offense? He wasn't recruited to be a point forward so let's be realistic.

I'm Royally hoping he can average 5 pts and 5 rbs a game this season. For someone of his size and skillset, 5/5 would be a great season.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by big jordan Offseason UD Pride is an awful, awful place. Basically every thread devolves into an embarassing place Regarding Kostas - I'm most interested to see if he can run the offense. The Bucks unleasing "Point Giannis" was an awesome development. I know Giannis is in another stratosphere, but hopefully some skills have been developed, as apparently they work out a good amount together. Especially with the lack of solid PGs on the roster, having Kostas handle ballhandling/playmaking would be great Posted via Mobile Device

You must not visit many message boards. This is one of the most tame ones I have seen out there other than maybe Davidson's.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by big jordan Offseason UD Pride is an awful, awful place. Basically every thread devolves into an embarassing place Posted via Mobile Device

It's an awful, awful place. And yet - here you are!

It's the off-season. We have some basketball to speculate about, but otherwise we discuss current events (like Sam Miller assaulting a woman, urinating on the floor and starting a fight). We also like to make jokes and have fun. It's OK.
You should try it.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by MNFats It's an awful, awful place. And yet - here you are!

It's kind if like the --I don't want to be a part of any club that would have me as a member.

[TX Flyer]

And y'all talk about BBR...

[jack72]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer And y'all talk about BBR...

Who are y'all? and what is BBR?

[UDTradition]

Can't we all just get along...

I've said my fair share of nasty messages to other pride members that I wished I hadn't. (In this Public Forum) I try to follow my acid test for humor, critique, etc. is would I say it to their parent's face. If so...then I hit the send button, if not then I hit the delete button.

I think there are many of us that have a hair-trigger when our players are criticized and attacked. I certainly do. I am not likely to change just as others will not change being on the other edge of criticism.

Threads like this achieve at least one thing...heightening the awareness to these types of potential issues.

I'm not trying to have the last word but IMO I've said my peace.

BTW - Gazoo...you're explanation is mostly right!

[cobra8u]

****, I thought there was real info on Kostas here!

[San Diego Flyer]

What, we are not supposed to discuss his basketball potential?

I see your last response was a month ago was on another Kostas thread and you were preoccupied with Wilt Chamberlain in your posts.

pot = kettle

[cobra8u]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer What, we are not supposed to discuss his basketball potential? I see your last response was a month ago was on another Kostas thread and you were preoccupied with Wilt Chamberlain in your posts. pot = kettle

well aren't you the cyber detective.....

[UDTradition]

Originally Posted by cobra8u ****, I thought there was real info on Kostas here!

Do you mean that the thread is being hijacked by people like me?

[UDEE79]

I have high hopes but repeat a two word mantra when I start to assume he will be great because of his brother "Frank Iguadala"

[RamodWaleskowski]

Originally Posted by UDEE79 I have high hopes but repeat a two word mantra when I start to assume he will be great because of his brother "Frank Iguadala"

Heyyyyyy

Frank had some nice dunks/put back dunks.....

Now I'm offended.

[Swampy Meadows]

Kostas' clearance for full contact gets the "full Rothstein": https://www.fanragsports.com/rothste...-contact-work/

[DallasFlyer]

Sad news for Kostas: his father, Charles, died unexpectedly last night after suffering a heart attack. http://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news...d-away-54/amp/

[frisco flyer]

Awful news. I wish Kostas and his family the best during the very difficult times that lie ahead.
God bless.

[ruechalgrin]

Thoughts and prayers with the family.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status/914181224951877632

[CvilleFlyer]

My thoughts and prayers will be with the family, as well.

[IndianaFlyer]

Thoughts and prayers.
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[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

So sorry to hear that - prayers to you and your family, Kostas!
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[MrFlyerFanatic]

Saw on the TV crawl last night that Giannis will not be with the Bucks for several more days while dealing with the passing of his father. Any word on how long Kostas will be away?
I have family across the county. I can't imagine what it must be like gathering family from around the world.

[jack72]

Bucks??

[bcross]

Originally Posted by jack72 Bucks??

Giannis plays for the Milwaukee Bucks.

[Medford]

Milwaukee Bucks, the team he plays for.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

In this article, Jason Kidd says "...it's going to be some time..." before Giannis returns.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...urn/724543001/

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Kostas has returned to campus, was at practice yesterday. Still not cleared for contact.
"Since he’s a big piece of our team, we’re going to take it slow,” Landers said. “We’re not going to rush him back. He’s just taking it day by day, and when he comes back, it’s going to be nice.”
http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...p3p6h7pop4xFM/

[C-time]

Kostas cleared for contact and practiced this week!

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...GN9HoA6C4mgjJ/

[SC_Flyer]

Saw this article on FiveThirtyEight about Kostas' brother and thought some might be interested. Didn't want to start a new thread about it, so thought I would reference it here:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-freaking-mvp/

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Kostas played in the scrimmage and will play in the exhibition. http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...nNQpsiqYgmUbN/

[C-time]

Giannis just signed a long term extension with Nike and will be getting a signature shoe for the 2018-19 season. Hopefully the Flyers will get some sweet limited editions of those next season.

https://sneakernews.com/2017/11/07/g...eal-with-nike/

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by C-time Giannis just signed a long term extension with Nike and will be getting a signature shoe for the 2018-19 season. Hopefully the Flyers will get some sweet limited editions of those next season. https://sneakernews.com/2017/11/07/g...eal-with-nike/

Or just go to Foot Locker and stay away from the sneaker companies...

[C-time]

Originally Posted by shocka43 Or just go to Foot Locker and stay away from the sneaker companies...

Who in the world actually goes to Foot Locker or any other actual shoe store anymore?

[Bucketnight]

Originally Posted by C-time Who in the world actually goes to Foot Locker or any other actual shoe store anymore?

Are you kidding? If my wife goes 30 days without a purchase at DSW, they send a car to the house to make sure she is alive.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by Bucketnight Are you kidding? If my wife goes 30 days without a purchase at DSW, they send a car to the house to make sure she is alive.

I should have said when is the last time a man has been to an actual shoe store to buy shoes.

[RamodWaleskowski]

Anybody else watch the Cavs/Bucks game last night.

My lord if Kostas is half the player his big brother in than we have another future NBA player on the roster.

Kostas needs to work on his upper body. He is built almost identical to his big brother except for the upper body. Giannis looks strong physically up top. They both have sticks for legs.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski Anybody else watch the Cavs/Bucks game last night. My lord if Kostas is half the player his big brother in than we have another future NBA player on the roster. Kostas needs to work on his upper body. He is built almost identical to his big brother except for the upper body. Giannis looks strong physically up top. They both have sticks for legs.

We need to be careful about comparing him to his brother. I get that there are physical similarities. Just like every short white wide receiver to enter the NFL in the last 10 years is "The Next Wes Welker"...just because he's short and white.

I fall into the same trap with Kostas. It's easy to watch Giannis and get excited about what Kostas could be, but that's not fair to Kostas. He can't possibly live up to those expectations.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski My lord if Kostas is half the player his big brother in than we have another future NBA player on the roster.

At 19, Giannis was an NBA rookie.

Kostas will be a 20 year old freshman next week...

With that said, 'if' isn't going to happen.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by rollo At 19, Giannis was an NBA rookie. Kostas will be a 20 year old freshman next week... With that said, 'if' isn't going to happen.

So you think he going to be Frank rather than Andre?

[rollo]

Originally Posted by C-time So you think he going to be Frank rather than Andre?

I just hate the word 'if' around here. 'IF' = mid major...'IF' = the BG era...and I royally believe we're better than and beyond that.

[Fairborn Fan]

Well spoken Rollo, I could not agree more.