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Old 10-11-2014, 07:31 PM
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Dayton at George Washington - 11 Oct 2014

First set goes to George Washington 25-22.
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Flyers started a bit slow in the second set, going down 5-3. Then, Jendryk gets a kill, makes it 5-4, and Sloan comes in to serve, and 2 George Washington timeouts later, UD is up 14-5. (3 aces in this run so far)
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14-5 in Set 2 - got to hold on this time!!
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20-16....ugh....
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25-19 good guys second set.

We really let that first set slip away. Up 13-7 and GDub tied it at 14 before TH called a TO. Might have called the TO a little sooner.

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Flyers get set 2, 25-19. Best 2 out of 3 now.
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25-19 Dayton in set #2. They need to hang onto their leads better - making me too nervous! Our middles having good % nights so far, and we seemed to have more normal production from our front row. Nice 10-point serving run. Let's go Flyers!

Figgie - seems like GW is making a lot of errors (ball-handling/serving/serve-receive). Their hitting % through 2 sets is .287 to Dayton's .222. We seem to be serving better, and hopefully they continue to have a hard time handling them. We haven't even gotten Alaina on one of her runs yet, either. Here's hoping...

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GW opens set #3 with a service error. We'll take the charity as long as they want to hand it out.
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19-19 after a block from Jill and Z! Haven't seen us blocking a ton tonite. Great time to get one.
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And Dayton takes set 3, 25-23!

Down a bit early, then came back to tie, then swapping points on serves, we get a 3 pt run to go up 2 (22-20), then another 2 pt run to get to 24-21, before dropping 2 points for a 24-23 lead, and then Erhahon kill for the set.

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If the play-by-play is accurate, Jessica Sloan has 6 aces on the night, and we have at least one more set to go!
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OT: Penn State

Illinois takes Penn State 3-1 at Penn State.

And earlier Penn State took Wisconsin in 3 3-0
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25-23 after an Erhahon kill! Were up 24-21 and GW wouldn't quit. Hitting lines are:

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Dayton: 41 15 128 .203
GW: 48 14 124 .274

GW is just making too many ball-handling errors or else we'd be in a really serious dog fight. Not that we aren't already, mind you. They seem to have some great terminators but ragged passing and serving is doing them in.

Dayton up 2-1 in sets heading into #4.
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Newman (senior OH) and Osuchukwu (soph Middle) have accounted for 35 of the 53 kills, and 80 of the 140 attempts so far. I think we know who we have to stop. ; )
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22 kills by Osuchukwu midway thru the 4th. Need someone to get on that girl!
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4th set, tied at 19. It would be much more stressful if we were down 2 sets to 1, but still don't want it to go to that fifth set!
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UD has the lead, 23-21, GW calls timeout. 2 more points! Get 'em ladies!
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GW ties it out of the timeout, and now back-and-forth, tied at 25-25, then GW takes a 1 pt lead...
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GW takes the set, 27-25.

Onto 5th set. Let's rush it to 15 points, ladies!
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GW Scores 6 of last 8 points. Come girls its do or die 5th set.
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44 of 64 kills between Osuchukwu (26) and Newman (18). Osuchukwu is obviously a beast, so let's focus on this girl. No other GW kid has more than 8.

Dayton spreading it around more evenly. Alaina 15, Amber 11, Z 9, Jenna 8, and Jill 7.
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Timeout Dayton, down 7-4. Ick.
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Another timeout for Dayton. Down 11-7. We need a run!
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Rats. We had 2 match points in set 4 and could not close the deal.
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And a block by GW takes the 5th set, 15-9.

22-25, 25-19, 25-23, 25-27, 9-15.

Well, we got our A10 loss out of our system. Let's get back to it, and take out Morehead on Tuesday, before taking out Fordham on Friday, then having Rhode Island on Sunday. 3 at home, let's go for 3-0!
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Once again, we swing in the mid .100s for a match. Out-dug, out-hit, out-blocked. Better team won. Against Mason and LaSalle it doesnt matter, but against teams that might finish better than .500 at year end, it does.

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In the big picture -- the loss doesn't matter -- because everyone knows we have to win the A-10 Tourney to make the NCAAs. GW's RPI was 60-something. Ours was 120-something. Yet we could have won this match -- even 3-0 to be honest. But we lost 2-3 and didn't bring it in the 5th set. Learn from it and move on.

Chris is right -- our hitting % against better teams is low. We have to get better at terminating against good defenses. Also, our block was slow. I'm not sure we even had a block in the first set. We ended with 9 -- but over 5 sets that's pretty weak. I didn't see the match, so it's hard to tell if we were having problems reading their setter. They feed two main hitters, so the scouting report and game plan should have geared to those two, but for some reason we could not stop their offense and they went on big point runs. Let's hope the next time we meet -- and it's highly probable we will in the A-10 Tourney, we limit their runs.

Also, I've been watching this for a couple weeks. Almost hate to even mention it because I don't want to jinx her, but have you noticed how FEW hitting errors Amber makes. She took 24 swings this match and had zero errors. It's not the first match she's had zero. For the season she has 225 swings and only 20 errors. That's under 10% which is really, really good. Everyone is going to have errors. It's part of the game and in some cases the set is bad and you have no option except to try to hit through a block or tool it. If the set is too low doing that is even hard and usually results in an error. But when you have less than 10% errors to swings, and you are still terminating a bunch of balls to have a hitting percent over .400 - then you are doing a whole lot of things very, very well.

Errors are scoring points for the other team. They can kill you in big matches. You hear teams talk about "cleaning stuff up on their side of the net". That means limiting their own errors for the most part. Freshmen make a lot of errors. Yet this lady is making almost none in the hitting area. That's pretty special and rare.
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I agree with Chris that the hitting percentage isn't nearly good enough. Amber and Isolde combined to hit .45 with 22 kils and only three errors.

The rest of the team was way under 10%.

GW's middles (I am guessing that Landon Garvic played middle). had a combined 39 kills, 3 errors in 74 attempts. That is phenomenal production which makes me think that GW's passing was really good at times and horrible at others. I think Avid Flyer alluded to that.

UD's middles had 22 kills, 3 errors in 42 attempts which is really good.

Anything else is guessing since I didn't watch the match. UD's passing might have been weak at times making things difficult for the outside hitters but need input from people who watched the match.
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Once again, we swing in the mid .100s for a match. Out-dug, out-hit, out-blocked. Better team won. Against Mason and LaSalle it doesnt matter, but against teams that might finish better than .500 at year end, it does.

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First, I agree with this 100%. But I did notice we had 82 points to GW's 84. That means we generated basically the same amount of our own points as they did. It came down to errors and how many points we scored for them. Personally I consider a block a point you earn even tho it shows up as a hitting error. They had 13. We had 9. Now you have a point-spread of the 2 noted above +4 from blocks. A 6-point difference. Over 5 sets, a little over 1 per set. You have to win by 2, so not too bad -- so errors played a big part in this loss. We scored too many points for GW. We let them go on point runs and get back into sets we held solid leads in. And we didn't bring it in the 5th.

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Seems to me watching the game tracker only that in set 5 GW went away from their two big scorers figuring Dayton would be concentrating on those two. Don't know if our defense was set up to block or hamper the two bigs or that they just shifted their offense away from what we had seen the first four sets. Either way it worked. After 4-4 tie we were never in it. As Becky said there is a lot to learn from it, and I know TH and staff will be up to the challenge as will the girls.

Friday's game was just too easy, maybe it would have been best to have played them first like SLU did.

Becky mentioned that possibly SLU had injuries/sickness last weekend on their two losses; checked the players listed in their game against GW and there were more names than were listed in their two losses.

EDIT: on second thought don't think it would have made any difference, as GW had UD circled on their schedule as we were both undefeated and SLU had just lost two games including one to Davidson.

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We let them go on point runs and get back into sets we held solid leads in. And we didn't bring it in the 5th.

Learn from it.
Very true, this was a winnable match with more consistent play. I expect the team to learn from this and improve because of it
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Explain this to me oh wise volleyball ones. Coming from the soccer side of strategy and tactics, when one of your teammates is having an off night and cannot control their first touch of the ball, is not connecting passes well, or is getting dis-possessed often, you recognize that its not their night and start sharing the ball elsewhere in order to minimize the damage.

So when Turner is taking 1/3 of all the swings in a match and hitting below .100, why aren't we recognizing this and pushing the ball to other players that aren't struggling in biblical proportions. From my chair, if you are getting 1/3 of all the swings, you better be hitting closer to .300 or you have not earned the license to touch that many balls in a particular match.

Likewise in soccer, if you're spraying the ball all over the field and cannot connect with your teammates, Im going to pull your touches from you and start working the ball to other players that arent having such a rough go of it.

So, why does this logic work in soccer, but not in volleyball. Recognize who is "on" and who is "off" and move the ball accordingly. Each match may have different players that are "on" and "off". Unless you are an All-American, you're going to have some nights where it just aint working for you. So why dont we adjust to this.

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Chris, I didn't watch the match so I cannot say exactly what happened. And Beckystxa understand the rotation patterns better than myself.

But, Alaina is our number 1 left side hitter which means she will be at the net at the same time as the setter for multiple rotations. So this means there are only two hitting options at those times. If the pass isn't really good then Alaina becomes the only option. That isn't good for a 5'10" outside hitter to be facing a lot of double blocks. And if the passes are off the net having a bad angle on the set gives the blockers a huge advantage.

The only option on a mediocre or poor pass is to set Alaina or to set Jessica in the back row.

I also know that setters sometimes fall in love setting the ball to their primary hitter even when they are getting stuffed, I remember myself doing that. And if a particular blocker has their number it doesn't make sense to continue doing the same thing if you have options

I'm sure that Tim and Evan will look at the sets during this match and determine what could/should have been done differently.
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Chris -- first Alaina plays left OH1 -- she will NOT hit .300. I only know of about 2 left OH1's that have hit .300 for a season and both of those ladies are now playing on the US National team. A really good hitting percentage for the left OH1 is between .250 and .280 so that is your first point of reference.

Second, Alaina is playing all 6 rotations -- she never comes out during a match. That means she also gets set from the 3 back row rotations. Now some of those back row sets are PLANNED attacks. If the block is cheating over to one side or the other and the setter sees that she can go to Alaina or Jess in the back row on the side the net is open. But MOST of those back row sets are when the pass is bad and the setter can only set either a high ball to the left OH position or to someone in the back row. When the pass is bad, everyone on the defense knows it's going to either of those two options and it's way easier to dig out those attacks -- because your defense is set to stop it.

Third, like UDBrian noted, an OH1 will play 2 of her 3 front row rotations with only 2 hitters in the front row because the setter takes up that 3rd spot. She only has one rotation with the setter in the back row and 3 hitters up front. Again - only having to defend 2 hitters up front is easier than when there are 3 up front.

Fourth - both left OHs get a lot of junk sets off of bad passes. The easiest set it the high ball to the left OH. Most setters can make that set in their sleep from anywhere on the court. It's high. It's slow. Everyone on the court knows it's going there and the defense is waiting for it when it finally does get there. You are not going to terminate many of those swings. You do the best you can and you don't give the opponent a free ball. Alaina who can hit from anywhere on the court, gets a lot of sets that are what I call junk sets. She does the best she can with a bad situation, but it does impact her hitting percentage negatively. It's part of the game. If the pass was better, she wouldn't have to swing at so many junk sets.

I didn't "see" the GW match, so the above comments are general in nature. The passing could have been fine and Alaina just had an off-night. Who knows? But as a whole, this is why an OH - especially a left OH1 -- has a much lower hitting percentage than your MBs. Your passing has to be spot on to set an MB. That means the pass is delivered to the setter and she can set any hitter on the floor -- and sometimes we have 5 hitting options on the floor. Much harder for the defense to stop that attack. They simply don't know where to set up the block or the back row defense to dig a pass-set when the setter has 3 or more hitters she can deliver the ball to. Obviously that swing by whoever the ball goes to has a much higher percentage of finding the floor.

And thus, its why many of us always say, "It starts with the pass". It really is a critical skill that impacts the entire team and great passers never get enough credit for their contribution.

Hope this helped.

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