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The middle is WIDE OPEN
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12-19-2012, 08:35 PM
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The last time we were effective against the zone we were using an entry pass to the top of the key, then another quick pass to the low block. We need to be doing more of that.
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12-19-2012, 08:36 PM
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UD up 1... 7:40 to go in the game
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12-19-2012, 08:36 PM
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yeah this zone offense looks awful...i like the sanford floater at the foul line he should take it there each time in this zone
also...do they know you can reverse it from the high post? dont have to keep it with the guards to do that
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12-19-2012, 08:37 PM
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Need to knife through that zone off the ball screens and then look for the bounce pass to the cutting big.
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12-19-2012, 08:40 PM
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they finally hit the high post and the entry pass is weak as can be
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12-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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Our post guys that call for the ball have to handle it when it comes. Too weak in the hands.
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12-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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We're telegraphing passes.
Why isn't our best 3 point shooter in the game after 10 straight possessions of zone defense?
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12-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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Defense is almost non-existent
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12-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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I can't believe that we have so much trouble getting the ball into the middle of that zone.
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This looks exactly like BG's zone offense. Take a screen shot--5 guys >20 feet from the rim
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12-19-2012, 08:43 PM
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brian gregory zone offense...dont look to go to the middle at all
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12-19-2012, 08:44 PM
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Terrible shot by Price. Too far, too soon in the clock.
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12-19-2012, 08:44 PM
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Hey Price, your heels weren't quite touching the 1/2 court line with 20 seconds on the shot clock. Back up.
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12-19-2012, 08:45 PM
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oh great. KD hurt
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12-19-2012, 08:46 PM
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DO jacks a 3 with a guy in his face--I quit, we're done
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12-19-2012, 08:49 PM
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No flow to the offense against this zone. We need to figure this out in a big hurry.
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12-19-2012, 08:49 PM
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i remember when teams feared coming to UD....just doesnt happen anymore these days. teams know they can win
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12-19-2012, 08:49 PM
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Price might be a better defender than Dillard
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12-19-2012, 08:50 PM
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Can Oliver play any worse. A career low.
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12-19-2012, 08:50 PM
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Devin: Please tell yourself: "I cannot shoot from the three point range!" Please take a vow on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-19-2012, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gazoo
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Glad I wasn't the first to say this
they're toast if they can't figure out how to play a zone offense.
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Crunch time.
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12-19-2012, 08:53 PM
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12-19-2012, 08:53 PM
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Have to hit mid range jumpers
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12-19-2012, 08:53 PM
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I Archie sending a message to some of the players - Devin and Josh on the bench at a critical moment.
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Ain't over yet....need a STOP!
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12-19-2012, 08:58 PM
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Need a defensive stop
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12-19-2012, 08:58 PM
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I'm not willing to write this off as a loss yet. Ugly, yes; winnable, still.
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12-19-2012, 08:59 PM
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wow...thanks for the missed FT ISU
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12-19-2012, 08:59 PM
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wow... UD with the chance for the W
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OK so maybe a little premature. . .
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We nee penetration by Vee or Dyshaun and a dish underneath.
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Would be a helluva comeback
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Got the stop now we need ONE bucket! Come on Arch........work some magic! RITA.......
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Huge foul up by Miller not having MD in the game at the end, no excuse for that
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12-19-2012, 09:01 PM
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We got the penetration but we kicked it out instead of hitting the cutter.
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You call a timeout and that's the play you come up with? Absolutely Awful!
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Bummer... would have been a heck of win w/o KD
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Tough loss. I wish we had KD at the end.
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Tell me why the phuck devon oliver is taking the last shot and a 3 at that?
This is brian gregory basketball all over again!!!!
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How much I wanted one of those two to fall in. Take it out on Murray State.
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No way we should have had to settle for a 3. Take it to the hoop!
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I don't like the last play at all when we were so awful from the outside all game long. Go with where we were scoring points - the cutter in the paint! Devin should have been cutting to the bucket!!!!!!!!
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Any consolation? Ill St is a good team. Carmichael is a player. Let's hope KD is ok.
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Tough one. Could end up being a lot worse than just a loss. I hope KD is ok.
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No Consolation...We can't keep losing home games.
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Two home losses by one point each. Ouch. Ill State is a solid team and probably deserved to win this one, though. We had a chance to steal it, but DMO for three? LOL. Not the shot we needed there...
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This is twice we have had these teams come into our house and we lay an egg. It seems our juniors and seniors just did not show up tonight. I hate the NIT, but these are the games that put you there. We need some shooters!
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I think the Ill St fans cheered when they saw Oliver would take the last shot. We have some offensive players and Oliver and Price take the last shots and Matt D not even in the game. Terrible coaching calls.
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These threads crack me up. So much *****ing and moaning about the offense. Folks, we scored 73 pts and lost. It's not about the offense. ISU shot 53% from the field. Inexcusable. They outrebounded us by 6. Inexcusable. Defense and rebounding will win us games. If we don't do those things, we aren't going to win. I don't care how many pts we score.
Some posters really can't seem to let go of BG on here. Since so many people keep bringing him up, I guess I will too. His teams played defense and rebounded, the two things that kept us from winning this game tonight.
Not sure why MD wasn't in the game for the final shot.
This loss doesn't hurt me too much. Unlike the Weber St game, the better team won tonight. We could've stole it at the end, but it wasn't meant to be. I REALLY hope KD is okay. If not, this could be a LONG stretch of games.
Now, back to the *****ing and moaning about the offense...
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Oliver 2 for 10 and Price 1 for 5
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AnthonyCharles: You are right, we got schooled by the ISU offense. But when you get into a bit of a shootout, you must score some points yourself. Too many times tonight we had the absolute wrong guys firing threes. We had horrible ball-handling and far too many turnovers. Those all occurred on the offensive side of the ball.
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Originally Posted by anthonycharles
These threads crack me up. So much *****ing and moaning about the offense. Folks, we scored 73 pts and lost. It's not about the offense. ISU shot 53% from the field. Inexcusable. They outrebounded us by 6. Inexcusable. Defense and rebounding will win us games. If we don't do those things, we aren't going to win. I don't care how many pts we score.
Some posters really can't seem to let go of BG on here. Since so many people keep bringing him up, I guess I will too. His teams played defense and rebounded, the two things that kept us from winning this game tonight.
Not sure why MD wasn't in the game for the final shot.
This loss doesn't hurt me too much. Unlike the Weber St game, the better team won tonight. We could've stole it at the end, but it wasn't meant to be. I REALLY hope KD is okay. If not, this could be a LONG stretch of games.
Now, back to the *****ing and moaning about the offense...
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its a well known fact the defense was and is going to stink the entire year. it stunk last year and we added a bunch of freshman.
going into the season we knew we had to put up points to win games...so excuse me for wanting a D-1 head coach to know how to attack a zone defense. my bad
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Both of these guys are fine players when they play to their strengths. Tonight, they both were firing threes and neither should be doing that, especially Devin. He needed to be cutting TO the basket not spotting up at the three. I don't get that at all.
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Ill St averages over 80 a game, so no one plays defense against them. We blew it in the 5 minute stretch before KD went out when we failed to get almost any shots against their zone.
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Two of our losses were by 1 point and this one was winnable despite our issues. I am more concerned about Kevin and Murray State than I am about this forgettable loss.
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I sure hope the kids we have coming in next year can score like crazy. It's our only hope.
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