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11-22-2013, 02:27 PM
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...uiting-success
Nothing we didn't know, but a little press non the less from Andy Katz
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11-22-2013, 03:29 PM
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Hate to see Duke going the route of KY.
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11-22-2013, 08:33 PM
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I don't get why people don't understand why UK or Duke or any team really wouldn't want the most talented players on their roster as possible?
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11-23-2013, 09:19 AM
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Why does a university exist? Select one.......
1. provide an opportunity for a student to obtain a 4 year degree
2. provide a student a place to play basketball for one year
3. none of the above
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11-23-2013, 09:30 AM
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It appeared that Duke was trying to avoid the one and dones, and still having mostly four year guys, but now with the four (and might be five) they have for next year they have completely gone the KY way. The NCAA needs to do something about this silly rule.
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11-23-2013, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66
Why does a university exist? Select one.......
1. provide an opportunity for a student to obtain a 4 year degree
2. provide a student a place to play basketball for one year
3. none of the above
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4. to help students become as successful as possible.
If a kid has the ability to play in the NBA at age 19 or 20 they would be stupid not to.
The way everything is set up right now, there is nothing schools can do about the rule, since the player has to play one year anyway why can't the school get them as prepared as possible to play at the next level?
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11-23-2013, 11:46 AM
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I personally would prefer that they raise it to 2 years because I think, ultimately it would help these kids to spend 2 years in college but I don't hold it against kids for wanting to get to a payout as soon as possible. I also don't begrudge UK or any other school that actively recruits kids with the promise of one and done. Although kids that go to UK will see a pay cut when they go from UK to the NBA :-)
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11-23-2013, 02:10 PM
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The NCAA can't do anything about the rule. It is an issue between the NBA and the NBA players union.
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11-23-2013, 02:50 PM
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The problem with the one and done rule as I see it is the kids enrolling in college to play one season of hoops are making a joke of the last semester of school for that academic year -- the same semester they are on the court playing college basketball.
Kids start school in late August and their only responsibility is to stay eligible and keep their grades okay through early December so they are eligible to play basketball. Once the first semester is over, they can pretty much mail the entire second semester in while they play basketball. Basketball is over in early April at the absolute latest -- mid-March for everyone else. Second semester classes are usually not over until early May at the earliest, so grades are not due until basketball season has been over for nearly a month.
The result is you are watching kids play college basketball for 85-90% of their freshman college basketball season and making a mockery of higher education by not so much as cracking a book. Who cares if they have lousy grades at the end of the second semester? They arent coming back anyway -- they are headed to the NBA.
I believe at bare minimum the NBA should require all one-and-dones to successfully complete their second semesters of college with passing grades. Otherwise the advantage is now two-fold for the haves compared to the have-nots:
1) They get the better players
2) Their players dont have to study or go to class during the season and can focus 100% on basketball
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11-23-2013, 03:04 PM
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I don't think the NBA cares Chris. It is really up to the players union. The longer they keep kids out the longer current players keep roster spots. I don't think the owners or players care if the one and dones make a mockery of the system in second semester. The players might like to suppress their ability to gain an NBA roster spot for a year or two longer.
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11-23-2013, 04:49 PM
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Actually it is the opposite. The NBA owners have always wanted a later arrival time of players and unions opposed it. Legal decision overturned the nba rules in that distant past Spencer Hayward case
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...ege-basketball
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11-23-2013, 05:19 PM
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The NCAA could do something. They could reinstitute the freshman ineligible rule and compensate the schools by increasing the number of scholarships to 16 including freshmen. The other benefit of the rule would be to probably reduce the number of transfers from school to school. Another benefit of the rule might be that the incoming recruit has an opportunity to get acclimated to his new life and surroundings before put under the glare of the basketball spotlight.
Benefit the student athlete! Reduce the blatant hipocrisy current in college sports! No wait this can not be done it might cost the schools more.
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11-23-2013, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by oldfan
The NCAA could do something. They could reinstitute the freshman ineligible rule and compensate the schools by increasing the number of scholarships to 16 including freshmen. The other benefit of the rule would be to probably reduce the number of transfers from school to school. Another benefit of the rule might be that the incoming recruit has an opportunity to get acclimated to his new life and surroundings before put under the glare of the basketball spotlight.
Benefit the student athlete! Reduce the blatant hipocrisy current in college sports! No wait this can not be done it might cost the schools more.
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I don't think this would happen as well. Too many freshman have a positive impact in the outcomes of the games.
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