The official dayton bubble watch!!!!

[Tony T 71]

We are officially on the bubble boys and girls

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Dayton is dancing, you can relax

If they are not dancing, screw the NCAA, I am finding a new hobby to spend my hard earned money on.

[Smitty10]

I certainly can see it and will never understand those that are certain we're in. 2 years ago, we had a better OOC record, 2 more losses within conference(which was more highly respected than this year), and played in the A10 championship. The losses were more reasonable because you could tell it was mainly fatigue with only 7 bodies to use most of the season. They never lost 2 in a row. We were the last team in.

This season doesn't feel nearly as accomplished as that one did.

[jpk4ud]

[UDFlyer23]

Originally Posted by Tony T 71 We are officially on the bubble boys and girls

No they aren't.

[ruechalgrin]

Please delete or provide FACTS to support this assertion. Dayton is 100% lock looking at #27 RPI, 9-6 road/neutral, 4-2 top 50 and 12-5 top 100. Top 30 in dance card. I could go on and on and on.

[TA111]

I mentioned this on another thread, but Greg Shaheen has an article on ESPN.com and explains the selection process. By this morning the committee had selected all but the final 4 teams. They then put several in the ar large selection pool and the add teams as conference tourneys are completed. Unless you you believe UD was 64-68 BEFORE today's game then they are clearly in. There certainly is a lot of misinformation being thrown around.

[SLUFLYER]

Motion to close this thread. Can I get second? I suspect I could get 2000 people to offer a 2nd.

[Browns]

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin Please delete or provide FACTS to support this assertion. Dayton is 100% lock looking at #27 RPI, 9-6 road/neutral, 4-2 top 50 and 12-5 top 100. Top 30 in dance card. I could go on and on and on.

Get those statistics outta here, this thread is intended for those with anxiety disorders. No one asked for your level headed and will thought response.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Motion to close this thread. Can I get second? I suspect I could get 2000 people to offer a 2nd.

Second

[LIBob]

I remember sitting in the Barclay's Center after losing a similar quarterfinal game on the infamous Langston Galloway push-off. The guys sitting behind me were convinced there would be no way UD would make the tournament. How did that work out?

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by LIBob I remember sitting in the Barclay's Center after losing a similar quarterfinal game on the infamous Langston Galloway push-off. The guys sitting behind me were convinced there would be no way UD would make the tournament. How did that work out?

Much better than the following season's selection Sunday when we were all shocked to find out we were last team in and playing in the first four. That's a very thin line to NIT.

[Donniex3Era]

We are a lock. Book it. You don't go from a 7th, 8th seed to out with one loss.
The only concern is seeding now. And, getting the team's confidence back after the last two games

[jack72]

I think we are on the NIT bubble with those losses. Is this the right thread for that?

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Donniex3Era We are a lock. Book it. You don't go from a 7th, 8th seed to out with one loss. The only concern is seeding now. And, getting the team's confidence back after the last two games

This what I keep saying, I don't care what our seed is, I care that we are not playing well right now.

[Sarge]

Well, lets hope we played our way out of the 8/9 seed.

[UD90]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 I certainly can see it and will never understand those that are certain we're in. 2 years ago, we had a better OOC record, 2 more losses within conference(which was more highly respected than this year), and played in the A10 championship. The losses were more reasonable because you could tell it was mainly fatigue with only 7 bodies to use most of the season. They never lost 2 in a row. We were the last team in. This season doesn't feel nearly as accomplished as that one did.

The year you referred to is 2015.

Smitty, I am not picking on you because there are several on here who are in your camp. I just wanted to help you and those others understand the facts that support people like myself that are certain we are in.

2015 - Dance Card had us out by 2 spots 49 (we were one of his misses) - We were 2 spots above at 47

SOS
RPI 32
Top 50 1-3
Top 100 6-6

2016 - Dance Card had us as #27 (We were a 7 seed).

SOS 57
RPI 22
Top 50 3-5
Top 100 9-5
Kenpom: 59

2017 - Dance Card has us as #21 (before today) - we will likely fall to 27-30 - We will be a 7 or 8 seed. More Top 50 and Top 100 wins than last year. Winning Road/Neutral Record. Wins over likely NCAA teams (4-6): Winthrop, East Tenn State, Vanderbilt, Rhode Island, VCU..... hot off the press... welcome Alabama as a potential addition.

SOS 66
RPI 27 (live-rpi after Davidson loss)
Top 50 4-2 (may go to 4-3 if Northwestern keeps winning)
Top 100 12-5 (including Davidson)
Kenpom: 38 (read they are looking at this more this year)

But don't take my word for it. Check out the nittygritty sheets the selection committee uses.
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/default.aspx

Stats and Facts are a dangerous thing.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by UD90 The year you referred to is 2015. Smitty, I am not picking on you because there are several on here who are in your camp. I just wanted to help you and those others understand the facts that support people like myself that are certain we are in. 2015 - Dance Card had us out by 2 spots 49 (we were one of his misses) - We were 2 spots above at 47 SOS RPI 32 Top 50 1-3 Top 100 6-6 2016 - Dance Card had us as #27 (We were a 7 seed). SOS 57 RPI 22 Top 50 3-5 Top 100 9-5 Kenpom: 59 2017 - Dance Card has us as #21 (before today) - we will likely fall to 27-30 - We will be a 7 or 8 seed. More Top 50 and Top 100 wins than last year. Winning Road/Neutral Record. Wins over likely NCAA teams (4-6): Winthrop, East Tenn State, Vanderbilt, Rhode Island, VCU..... hot off the press... welcome Alabama as a potential addition. SOS 66 RPI 27 (live-rpi after Davidson loss) Top 50 4-2 (may go to 4-3 if Northwestern keeps winning) Top 100 12-5 (including Davidson) Kenpom: 38 (read they are looking at this more this year) But don't take my word for it. Check out the nittygritty sheets the selection committee uses. https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/default.aspx Stats and Facts are a dangerous thing.

Everything you say makes perfect sense. I just don't trust the committee. I will certainly root for VCU to win the conference tournament because there are times where I believe the committee is locked into the number of teams from a mid-conference they are allowing into the tournament and this year that might be 2. I really believe if all things being equal last year and SJ would've gotten knocked off early, SBU would've gone regardless of losing in the first round.

I hope they're a lock, but believe me, it's easier to not have such confidence and be surprised than the opposite, so I don't feel sorry for my pessimistic attitude.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[FlyerinChicago]

ooohhh..I love watching bubbles!!! Let me know when they fall! Is our ready-to -depart coach Archie going to be on the bubble watch too? That would be even neater!

[Browns]

Originally Posted by jack72 I think we are on the NIT bubble with those losses. Is this the right thread for that?

Non sense, we already locked up the auto bid to the NIT with the regular season championship.

[UDFlyer23]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Everything you say makes perfect sense. I just don't trust the committee. I will certainly root for VCU to win the conference tournament because there are times where I believe the committee is locked into the number of teams from a mid-conference they are allowing into the tournament and this year that might be 2. I really believe if all things being equal last year and SJ would've gotten knocked off early, SBU would've gone regardless of losing in the first round. I hope they're a lock, but believe me, it's easier to not have such confidence and be surprised than the opposite, so I don't feel sorry for my pessimistic attitude.

This has been said countless times but conference affiliation has no bearing on the number of teams from each league that can be selected. If a bid is "stolen" by a non-at large team winning their conference tournament, the very last team in on the bubble is bumped out. They don't just pick and choose teams and disregard their resume because of what conference they are in.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 This has been said countless times but conference affiliation has no bearing on the number of teams from each league that can be selected. If a bid is "stolen" by a non-at large team winning their conference tournament, the very last team in on the bubble is bumped out. They don't just pick and choose teams and disregard their resume because of what conference they are in.

Yes, and cops don't profile, weapons of mass destruction exist, elite politicians face the same degree of justice as anyone else, a 2nd baseman not touching the bag trying to turn a double play is not an out, P5 conferences don't get advantages during the selection process etc...

I know what the guidelines are supposed to be, but until I am in there during the their selection process, I don't know how closely they follow those guidelines and neither do you.

[Alberto Strasse]

is 3-3. The wins are Rhode Island twice and VCU. The losses are Nebraska, Northwestern and Davidson.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse is 3-3. The wins are Rhode Island twice and VCU. The losses are Nebraska, Northwestern and Davidson.

What about St Marys?

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse is 3-3. The wins are Rhode Island twice and VCU. The losses are Nebraska, Northwestern and Davidson.

What are you considering a big game?

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse is 3-3. The wins are Rhode Island twice and VCU. The losses are Nebraska, Northwestern and Davidson.

What about the first VCU game?

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer What are you considering a big game?

Obviously the 2nd VCU game was bigger than the first ?????

[UD90]

2004 Schedule
Game Plan | Opponent Tracker
Date Opponent Result Location Record Conf
Fri Nov 14 7 Gonzaga W, 73-66 67 Neutral 1-0
Tue Nov 25 127 Boston University W, 71-56 62 Away 2-0
Sat Nov 29 100 Old Dominion W, 75-72 75 Away 3-0
Tue Dec 2 173 San Francisco W, 84-52 69 Home 4-0
Sat Dec 6 72 Penn W, 67-59 66 Away 5-0
Tue Dec 9 37 Boston College W, 67-57 66 Home 6-0
Sun Dec 14 99 Drexel W, 92-70 72 Neutral 7-0
Sat Dec 20 102 California W, 59-57 64 Semi-Away 8-0
Sat Dec 27 82 Pacific W, 73-55 66 Home 9-0
Tue Dec 30 149 Delaware W, 75-54 69 Away 10-0
Sat Jan 3 49 George Washington W, 90-81 77 Home 11-0 1-0
Tue Jan 6 38 Richmond W, 71-60 69 Away 12-0 2-0
Sat Jan 10 146 Duquesne W, 78-61 68 Away 13-0 3-0
Tue Jan 13 262 Fordham W, 79-35 67 Home 14-0 4-0
Sat Jan 17 21 Xavier W, 81-73 65 Away 15-0 5-0
Wed Jan 21 184 Massachusetts W, 92-67 69 Home 16-0 6-0
Sat Jan 24 253 St. Bonaventure W, 114-63 78 Away 17-0 7-0
Sat Jan 31 89 Temple W, 83-71 65 Away 18-0 8-0
Mon Feb 2 53 Villanova W, 74-67 68 Away 19-0
Sat Feb 7 183 La Salle W, 89-63 63 Neutral 20-0 9-0
Wed Feb 11 71 Dayton W, 81-67 64 Home 21-0 10-0
Sat Feb 14 85 Rhode Island W, 73-59 65 Home 22-0 11-0
Wed Feb 18 262 Fordham W, 72-54 67 Away 23-0 12-0
Sat Feb 21 89 Temple W, 76-53 64 Neutral 24-0 13-0
Wed Feb 25 184 Massachusetts W, 83-58 65 Away 25-0 14-0
Sat Feb 28 85 Rhode Island W, 57-55 64 Away 26-0 15-0
Tue Mar 2 253 St. Bonaventure W, 82-50 69 Home 27-0 16-0

Atlantic 10 Conference Tournament
Thu Mar 11 21 Xavier L, 87-67 77 Neutral 27-1

NCAA Tournament
Thu Mar 18 181 Liberty W, 82-63 76 Neutral 28-1
Sat Mar 20 28 Texas Tech W, 70-65 60 Neutral 29-1
Thu Mar 25 14 Wake Forest W, 84-80 70 Neutral 30-1
Sat Mar 27 4 Oklahoma St. L, 64-62 61 Neutral 30-2

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

[RamodWaleskowski]

Originally Posted by TA111 I mentioned this on another thread, but Greg Shaheen has an article on ESPN.com and explains the selection process. By this morning the committee had selected all but the final 4 teams. They then put several in the ar large selection pool and the add teams as conference tourneys are completed. Unless you you believe UD was 64-68 BEFORE today's game then they are clearly in. There certainly is a lot of misinformation being thrown around.

How could they have all but 4 teams selected already?? If anyone not named Rhody or VCU wins the A-10 tournament that would obviously change things. Hogwash.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Avid Flyer]

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin Please delete or provide FACTS to support this assertion. Dayton is 100% lock looking at #27 RPI, 9-6 road/neutral, 4-2 top 50 and 12-5 top 100. Top 30 in dance card. I could go on and on and on.

Tell that to the selection committee, they don't give a rats a$$ what flyer fans think. They will get their favorite P5 teams in regardless.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski How could they have all but 4 teams selected already?? If anyone not named Rhody or VCU wins the A-10 tournament that would obviously change things. Hogwash.

As of last night they had 32 at-large teams (So basically all the 1-8 seeds, though they will/can adjust the S-curve later) selected according to David Worlock who is the NCAA communications director. This morning at 10:30 AM he tweeted they were selecting more at-large teams but that this group would not be First Four teams. So at 10:30am they had at least selected 36 teams before UD had even played.

https://twitter.com/DavidWorlock

[Avid Flyer]

Whens the last time a Dayton team lost first game of A-10 tourney?

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer Whens the last time a Dayton team lost first game of A-10 tourney?

2013 lost to Butler. Oh, and that was the last time we didn't make the dance, not saying it's similar, just throwing that in.

[Viperstick]

On the plus side: losing our 7 seed, maybe going down to a (gulp) 10 seed will almost assuredly keep us clear of a rematch with the Commodores of Vandy. That team is arguably the hottest in the country right now, losing over the past couple of weeks only to a very strong Kentucky team...at Rupp...on senior night...after leading by double digits through 3/4 of the game.

Ask the Gators if they want a fourth crack at the 'Dores...

[UD90]

I saw some references above to 3-3 Top 50. It is 4-3 solid now.


Top 50 (4)
--------
VCU 22 ^
URI (2x) 45 ^
Vanderbilt 43 ^

Top 100 (12)
---------------
4 above teams + 8 below. George Mason on the line at 102

East Tenn State 57
Winthrop 68
Richmond 82^
Alabama 84^
SBU 85^ (2x)
New Mexico 87
Davidson 98^

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Jeff]

Who knows?

Based on the last few years have gone.....just when you figure out the NCAA.

We'll probably be a six!!!

[priceg75]

URI and Vandy both top 40 now. Vanderbilt could get in the top 30 with a win tomorrow.

Sadly, GW looks likely to fall out of the top 100 with the loss to Richmond, giving us 3 sub-100 losses. GW at 101, Nebraska at 105.

I think we're already in personally, but if it's close that could be bad.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[UD90]

Looking at the dance card and how the teams are doing today I can see us moving from 22 to 28/29. Last 7 seed or first 8 seed. The teams on the 9 line would be in this group:

Michigan St.
South Carolina
Middle Tennessee
Michigan
Seton Hall
Vanderbilt (would be avoided due to bracketing procedures)
Marquette

It's still too fluid as many of these teams were in action today.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Tony T 71 We are officially on the bubble boys and girls

Tony, I know you are a huge UD fan, would never question that...But I knew you were the one that started this thread before I even looked. Need to relax a little bit.

[swish61]

Count me as one of the nervous ones. It's the "what have you done for me lately thing." Losing our last two games doesn't look too good.

[UDFlyer23]

Originally Posted by swish61 Count me as one of the nervous ones. It's the "what have you done for me lately thing." Losing our last two games doesn't look too good.

But we have also won 9 of our last 11. There's a big difference between dropping two in a row and limping into the tournament. I know it's not a metric the Committee uses, but look at all the teams competing for spots on the bubble right now, many of them are 7-4, 6-5, 5-6 or worse down the stretch.

Again, you can't look at the games this weekend in a vacuum. Entire body of work.

[UD90]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 2013 lost to Butler. Oh, and that was the last time we didn't make the dance, not saying it's similar, just throwing that in.

The last time this year Dayton lost two in a row - they rattled off 5 double digit wins including two over 2017 NCAA tournament teams, not saying it's similar, just throwing that in.

[Atlantic 10]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 But we have also won 9 of our last 11. There's a big difference between dropping two in a row and limping into the tournament. I know it's not a metric the Committee uses, but look at all the teams competing for spots on the bubble right now, many of them are 7-4, 6-5, 5-6 or worse down the stretch. Again, you can't look at the games this weekend in a vacuum. Entire body of work.

Plus some of these teams are under 500 in their league

[Radar]

Third

[BRob2Perryman3]

After filling my own Bracketology as i start doing once Dayton is eliminated, i can tell you we are safely in. SAFELY IN. Once you see it on paper, we are in. Im guessing a 9 or a 10. What im struggling with is how the committee is going to treat the likes of Kansas State,Michigan State,Vanderbilt,Providence,_avier.....etc.

Dayton likely was voted in to the At-large field before yesterday's game even tipped off. They however have not SEEDED the field yet. The loss will most definetly impact our seeding but we are in.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[ruechalgrin]

Dayton 25 dance card 100% in

http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm

[CoffeeCan]

7 seed playing 10 Oklahoma state. Yeah, I'd say we are squarely on the bubble.

http://www.bracketwag.com

[ruechalgrin]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan 7 seed playing 10 Oklahoma state. Yeah, I'd say we are squarely on the bubble. http://www.bracketwag.com

Palm has Dayton an 8 seed and Lunardi has Dayton a 9. Hoping for a 7 or 10.

[BRob2Perryman3]

In the terms of EVERY poker table across the country, "All i need is a chip and a chair"

Just get me there and i got it from here.

#8,#9......whatever. The goal of this team should be the NCAA Tournament every year. We're there. Time to have some fun!

[m21eagle45]

The committee many years have said conference tournament rarely affects the at-large teams unless a bid stealer knocks a bubble team off the board. How many times have the said the outcome of the Big 10 Championship and SEC Championship had no affect on the bracket. They know crazy upsets happen in these, and that is why they look at total body of work. It may affect teams to go up 1 seed or down one seed, but that is typically all you see happen.

[jack72]

The "eye test" will hurt us in a year we are on the bubble or close, and it can hurt our seed, but it will not take us out in a year we are clearly in. The committee looks at the total body of work. For Dayton that is: we played pretty good through injuries, then won the A10, then let up for a meaningless loss at GW, and then lost to a decent Davidson team in a close game. All that says we are clearly in, but we drop a couple of seed slots.

[DGO67]

Lunardi said (15 minutes ago) that if VCU doesn't win the A-10 tournament
"...there will be trouble for the A-10 dance card."
Is this cause for concern?

[slysyl]

Dayton is in, the seed could change in the next 24 hours but Dayton is in.
We can all go out and have a party DAYTON is in.

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by DGO67 Lunardi said (15 minutes ago) that if VCU doesn't win the A-10 tournament "...there will be trouble for the A-10 dance card." Is this cause for concern?

We are in before vcu. Relax.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by DGO67 Lunardi said (15 minutes ago) that if VCU doesn't win the A-10 tournament "...there will be trouble for the A-10 dance card." Is this cause for concern?

The only trouble is Lunardi, who is constipated or something.

[Atlantic 10]

ESPN lock Dayton and VCU. Last 4 in URI

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 The committee many years have said conference tournament rarely affects the at-large teams unless a bid stealer knocks a bubble team off the board. How many times have the said the outcome of the Big 10 Championship and SEC Championship had no affect on the bracket. They know crazy upsets happen in these, and that is why they look at total body of work. It may affect teams to go up 1 seed or down one seed, but that is typically all you see happen.

Exactly. I don't understand why a few on this thread don't get this. The conference tourneys have very little impact because they are just one or two games in an entire season.

[Avid Flyer]

Regarding teams considered locks....remember the committee has the key and can unlock any team they wish to put another team in. That's how UCLA got in, committee wanted them in.

Every year someone gets left out that the pundits factored in and someone gets in that has the pundits scratching their heads.

[CT Flyer]

I said this in another thread, but I'm in the camp that we are a lock because we won the A10 regular season outright and the committee values that especially in the 8th best conference in the country. With the same resume and a co-championship or second place finish I think we could be in trouble.

[steve]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer I said this in another thread, but I'm in the camp that we are a lock because we won the A10 regular season outright and the committee values that especially in the 8th best conference in the country. With the same resume and a co-championship or second place finish I think we could be in trouble.

"I'm telling you you're wrong and I've been right about everything in regards to UD basketball since I was a child. Hey, before anybody tells you did I tell you it's pretty cold out there this morning by the UD arena. See, I told you first - RamodWaleskowski

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by steve "I'm telling you you're wrong and I've been right about everything in regards to UD basketball since I was a child. Hey, before anybody tells you did I tell you it's pretty cold out there this morning by the UD arena. See, I told you first - RamodWaleskowski

He did put together the complex puzzle of Cunnungham's return date. And to suggest XW start when most others felt he should never get off the bench? RamodWaleskowski clearly has some kind of crystal ball or Nostradamus like qualities.

If he gets this right, and the Flyers miss the Dance tonight, then we should probably put him on all of the cold case files across the Midwest.

In the remote chance that he misses this and the Flyers do dance tonight, just chalk it up to RamodWaleskowski "gaining steam" as southwest Ohio's next weather man.

[shwag33]

The bubble is pretty much gone. The only teams left on bracketmatrix that are even remotely being considered are Syracuse and Illinois st. ESPN doesn't even have the 'first four out' anymore. It just 2 teams. USC Illinois st.

This might be the most predictable year I can ever remember. There's just so little choices.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by DGO67 Lunardi said (15 minutes ago) that if VCU doesn't win the A-10 tournament "...there will be trouble for the A-10 dance card." Is this cause for concern?

He must have meant URI, otherwise the statement makes no sense. This game today can't hurt VCU. Their RPI won't move with a loss and dance card probably not much either. SOS will improve.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Smitty10]

Okay, I see that Arizona moved into a very possible #1 seed. If Dayton is an 8/9 seed that would mean 25 percent chance of winding up in same region. I'm guessing it's more like a 100 percent for the Miller brothers angle.

[Tony T 71]

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin Please delete or provide FACTS to support this assertion. Dayton is 100% lock looking at #27 RPI, 9-6 road/neutral, 4-2 top 50 and 12-5 top 100. Top 30 in dance card. I could go on and on and on.

The only proof needed is that the NCAA has a "screw the non 5 league button" I don't trust them as far as I can throw them and they have proven it. They have used this button at will!!!!

As for deleting this thread there are 63 posts that say otherwise. I opened this for discussion on on a discussion board. Maybe battling cancer and heart failure have affected my mind but opinions are like aholes, everybody has one

[RamodWaleskowski]

For the 100th time. I think UD should be in, deserves to be in. I want them to be in!!!

I just do not trust the committee. Hence my skepticism that we are "locked".

[LIBob]

Originally Posted by Tony T 71 The only proof needed is that the NCAA has a "screw the non 5 league button" I don't trust them as far as I can throw them and they have proven it. They have used this button at will!!!! As for deleting this thread there are 63 posts that say otherwise. I opened this for discussion on on a discussion board. Maybe battling cancer and heart failure have affected my mind but opinions are like aholes, everybody has one

This argument does not work against Dance Card though. Their algorithm accounts for conference bias as well as if a school is represented on the committee.

[RamodWaleskowski]

Originally Posted by steve "I'm telling you you're wrong and I've been right about everything in regards to UD basketball since I was a child. Hey, before anybody tells you did I tell you it's pretty cold out there this morning by the UD arena. See, I told you first - RamodWaleskowski

Awhhhh Steve is butt hurt, poor guy. That is cute.

[RamodWaleskowski]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER He did put together the complex puzzle of Cunnungham's return date. And to suggest XW start when most others felt he should never get off the bench? RamodWaleskowski clearly has some kind of crystal ball or Nostradamus like qualities. If he gets this right, and the Flyers miss the Dance tonight, then we should probably put him on all of the cold case files across the Midwest. In the remote chance that he misses this and the Flyers do dance tonight, just chalk it up to RamodWaleskowski "gaining steam" as southwest Ohio's next weather man.

Or you could chalk it up as my first L in the prediction game. It is bound to happen sooner or later.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski Or you could chalk it up as my first L in the prediction game. It is bound to happen sooner or later.

Agree 100%. With some of the stuff you've been posting the last 48 hours, I'd expect it (taking an "L") to be more and more frequent.

[UDTradition]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Agree 100%. With some of the stuff you've been posting the last 48 hours, I'd expect it (taking an "L") to be more and more frequent.

A Gem !

[steve]

Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski Or you could chalk it up as my first L in the prediction game. It is bound to happen sooner or later.

No just chalked up to being a drama queen.

[Buster Goode]

Someone just needs to delete this thread.
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[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Buster Goode Someone just needs to delete this thread. Posted via Mobile Device

I made that motion 2 days ago.........

[Tony T 71]

Originally Posted by Tony T 71 The only proof needed is that the NCAA has a "screw the non 5 league button" I don't trust them as far as I can throw them and they have proven it. They have used this button at will!!!! As for deleting this thread there are 63 posts that say otherwise. I opened this for discussion on on a discussion board. Maybe battling cancer and heart failure have affected my mind but opinions are like aholes, everybody has one

Someone delete this thread before some people on the board have a stroke