UnGolden Hero-to-Zero Award - URI

[rollo]

UGH!

Sir Trey had a chance to be the hero with that end-of-regulation tip, and quite honestly I believe he wanted to dunk it...but short-armed it instead for fear the clock might expire during a dunk attempt. The Golden tip rolls around and out, so we head to OT where the almost hero doesn't get another golden opportunity like he did at the end of regulation.

But I'm not throwing Sir Trey under the Royal coach by any means. There's a 5th year senior out there who disappeared last night as well as a point guard who didn't have the best of stats, either.

So we've all slept on it and should have clear minds, soles and stomachs at this point. Grab some breakfast, get a coffee, visit the porcelain throne and vote for last night's 'zero'. UGH!!!

Go Flyers! My Team.

King Rollo the Caffeinated...OUT!

[T-Bone 84]

Personally, I had to vote Crutcher. He was 0-4 from behind the arc, and IIRC at least 2 of those came with half the shot clock remaining, and they were from Curry-Ville. 6 TOs is 3 too many, and this was a 2-point loss where every possession mattered. And finally, something that doesn’t show up in the box score but is just as important is the d!cking around, dribbling out above the arc, with the shot clock winding down to 6...5...4... He needs to have a greater sense of urgency, and last night that malaise was rampant (with only Obi & Ryan being immune from it). Actually, it there was an “all of the above” option, I might have selected it, because we only had 2 guys who played from start to finish like they meant it. As it was, Crutch gets my vote.
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[rollo]

I just rewatched the tip 3 times and Trey was right to not dunk it...the horn would have blown before he released the shot. He had to tip it...

[lhsgolf19]

Oh there it is... a bunch of votes for Coach Grant... Like clockwork

How about for once some of you blame it on the players... 19 Turnovers, Jalen/JD playing like crap & Josh acting like he didn't want to be there is not on Coach

[Clear Prop]

I voted Coach Grant, but we fell short as a team, and as the coach, he bears the brunt of this stinger. But in my humble opinion, no one person deserves to be somgled out for blame. I'm betting the entire locker room knows they let an opportunity slip from their grasp. We as a team make mistakes and learn from them. Dang, one less turnover, Treys missed tip-in, (how did that not go in... I'm sure he feels as bad as anyone right now) one less un-botched fast break, and the game is ours. Maybe the lessons learned here will enable another looong win streak. Time for another cup of coffee.

[IAFlyer]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Personally, I had to vote Crutcher. He was 0-4 from behind the arc, and IIRC at least 2 of those came with half the shot clock remaining, and they were from Curry-Ville. 6 TOs is 3 too many, and this was a 2-point loss where every possession mattered. And finally, something that doesn’t show up in the box score but is just as important is the d!cking around, dribbling out above the arc, with the shot clock winding down to 6...5...4... He needs to have a greater sense of urgency, and last night that malaise was rampant (with only Obi & Ryan being immune from it). Actually, it there was an “all of the above” option, I might have selected it, because we only had 2 guys who played from start to finish like they meant it. As it was, Crutch gets my vote. Posted via Mobile Device

I agree with all of this. The team showed some laziness in passes, but the point guard had to be more awake than Jalen was last night.

[Beatty Town Coach]

So many deserving choices, but so few chances to vote. Poll is biased and skewed toward the one option that is intrinsically attached to all other options. But like all ignorant consumers, I shall take the authors bait...Coach Grant. He said so himself, and I really don't bash players; therefore instructor Rollo you leave me no other real option.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by IAFlyer I agree with all of this. The team showed some laziness in passes, but the point guard had to be more awake than Jalen was last night.

Thanks, IAFlyer. And I have 1 more point to add to this. I just watched the replay of Trey’s “tip that wasn’t”. We had the ball at the RI end of the court with about 7 seconds left. Crutcher dribbled upcourt at about half-speed, then launched a 25-footer from the top of the key that went 24. Trey had set a screen for Jalen on that shot and, when the shot went up, he crashed the glass like a runaway train. I can’t fault Trey for the effort, but I CAN fault Jalen for putting “heroics” over a win.
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[maddog07]

Had to go with Trey. To say he was bad would be an upgrade. He got credit for two shots in 20 mins, neither went in. But had he justmade it a five on four game on offense it would not have been so bad, but noooooooo. He compounded our problems by dribbling into traffic or otherwise gifting the ball to Rhody for easy plays at their end. Nobody played quite at his level last night.
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	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Jeff]

This thread should be call the "Golden Turd Award".

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach So many deserving choices, but so few chances to vote. Poll is biased and skewed toward the one option that is intrinsically attached to all other options. But like all ignorant consumers, I shall take the authors bait...Coach Grant. He said so himself, and I really don't bash players; therefore instructor Rollo you leave me no other real option.

Way too analytical for 8AM.

[Jeff]

Crap.

The AG hater will be out.
The apologists will soon follow.

Face it, this game is a true representation of this team and the year. Pick your poison...slow starts, lapses, indifferent and inconsistent play, offset by brilliant stretches.

This is what we have. Hope more competition for time will improve the full squad next year.

One consistent attribute....didn't score in the final 2:50.

[312to937]

Originally Posted by Jeff Crap. The AG hater will be out. The apologists will soon follow. Face it, this game is a true representation of this team and the year. Pick your poison...slow starts, lapses, indifferent and inconsistent play, offset by brilliant stretches. This is what we have. Hope more competition for time will improve the full squad next year. One consistent attribute....didn't score in the final 2:50.

Good post. Gets harder to score in the last few minutes of close games. Defenses tighten, refs swallow the whistle a bit, pressure mounts, etc. We really don't have anybody that can either:

1) Consistently hit the three
2) Create off the bounce and play through contact to get to the rim and/or pull up and hit a ten footer. Actually Obi is the one that is improving the most in that area.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach So many deserving choices, but so few chances to vote. Poll is biased and skewed toward the one option that is intrinsically attached to all other options. But like all ignorant consumers, I shall take the authors bait...Coach Grant. He said so himself, and I really don't bash players; therefore instructor Rollo you leave me no other real option.

For the first few years I refused to include the coach in my UnGolden polls because it's an easy out for the minority who hate to say or think anything bad about a UD player...and I caught alot of grief for it. So, to keep my minions under my control and make them believe I care, I took a chapter out of the Liberal/Socialist playbook and gave them a morsel of what they want...and guess what? It worked.

Socialism has invaded the Golden Kingdom...who'd have thunk it?

King Rollo-Beto-Cortez-Sanders...OUT!

[hawkoooo]

I had to go Trey because his game was so bad as a whole and obviously he shat the bed on that easy tip in (look at the clock dude!). He looked way out of whack. The others on the list at least had shining moments.

This was a game of missed opportunities. Trey's big blunder was a microcosm. Jalen's missed layup at the end was actually a pretty tough shot, but indicative of the entire game for us: blowing pedestrian scoring opportunities.

[Alberto Strasse]

is not post-season worthy. The cannot guard the post or prevent dribble penetration. They have difficulty guarding the corner trey shot by an opponent. The quickest feet belong to Cohill. The others(except for Landers) have trouble keeping the ball in front of them. These realities require Coach Grant to play more zone than he would prefer and place more pressure on the offense. Dayton's guards other than Crutcher have problems dribbling the ball which require the team to depend more on Mikesell and Toppin to handle the ball against pressure. Dayton's guards are average compared to the rest of the A-10.

[jack72]

Not a great game for the coach. Having Landers in at the end of overtime was a terrible decision, and maybe having him in all night was a bad decision. But Landers gets my vote. The kid's game. and effect on a game, has sunk faster than Jimmy Hoffa's body did in Lake Michigan. Reminds me a little of X Williams last year versus the previous year.

Crutcher and Cunningham or Davis could get my vote. All stunk. Crutcher on offense was offensive, but his attempted defense on Fatts was a joke. He ate that kid alive last game on both ends, so I guess he decided to take last night off and read his press clippings. Cunningham is obviously hurting. He can give us that I'm 100% crap all he wants. That is not the quickness and leaping and even outside shooting we saw last year. Davis alternates between excellent, nervous and passive. Time to step up for Crutcher and Davis, or you will step out next year. Cunningham needs graduation and rest.

[BeckysTXA]

Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach So many deserving choices, but so few chances to vote. Poll is biased and skewed toward the one option that is intrinsically attached to all other options. But like all ignorant consumers, I shall take the authors bait...Coach Grant. He said so himself, and I really don't bash players; therefore instructor Rollo you leave me no other real option.

I gotta respect Grant for saying that. Going in I didn’t realize it was 3 games in 6 days with some travel. Sounds like a coach and team ‘learning loss’. Make the adjustments and utilize what you learned for the A10 Tournament when the turnarounds get even shorter.

Go Flyers. Finish playing your best.

[312to937]

Originally Posted by BeckysTXA I gotta respect Grant for saying that. Going in I didn’t realize it was 3 games in 6 days with some travel. Sounds like a coach and team ‘learning loss’. Make the adjustments and utilize what you learned for the A10 Tournament when the turnarounds get even shorter. Go Flyers. Finish playing your best.

If three games in six days is too difficult to bring the energy and level of play needed to beat a team in the bottom half of the conference, how are we going to bring the energy and level of play to win three games in three days (or maybe four in four days)????

[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by jack72 Cunningham is obviously hurting. He can give us that I'm 100% crap all he wants. That is not the quickness and leaping and even outside shooting we saw last year. Davis alternates between excellent, nervous and passive. Time to step up for Crutcher and Davis, or you will step out next year. Cunningham needs graduation and rest.

Josh does not appear as “agile” as last season, true, but his numbers the previous 3 games before URI are pretty good. 18-19 from the field, 16-21 from the line, and a combined 52 points in the 3 games. He looked fine in the Davidson game especially.

It seems like AG is more willing to bench Josh than any other starter for some reason, but I don’t know if that’s because Josh is not 100% or what. He was on the bench during crucial moments last night, not sure that was the right decision.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[312to937]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer Josh does not appear as “agile” as last season, true, but his numbers the previous 3 games before URI are pretty good. 18-19 from the field, 16-21 from the line, and a combined 52 points in the 3 games. He looked fine in the Davidson game especially. It seems like AG is more willing to bench Josh than any other starter for some reason, but I don’t know if that’s because Josh is not 100% or what. He was on the bench during crucial moments last night, not sure that was the right decision.

I think it's pretty clear he's not 100% and limited in movement. I also think it might have to do with making Obi the focus more on offense late in games. Having Josh down low clogs things up for Obi.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Viperstick]

Ah, the choices....


This was one of those nights where I really wish we had next year's bench to draw upon when a couple of players were clearly not in the flow of the game.


I voted for Jordan. We simply have to get some production from our two guard. 25% from three isn't cutting it. He only took four shots total, so maybe some of the blame lies with the coaching not utilizing him as a weapon. But maybe the coaches recognize he's not a very good option right now.


Could have easily voted for Crutch instead. He just looked lost last night. Six TOs, 0-fer from three. Yeah, maybe I should have given him the award. Played 44 out of 45 minutes. Dude may be tired as all get out by now. Would be nice to be able to put Chatman in...


Josh. Wow, he laid a stinker last night. The hot hand was clearly Obi and the offense was geared to flow through him, but outside of a drawing a couple charges, he was pretty much invisible. Need the senior captain to step it up going into the tournament.


Congrats to Obi for validating all the gushing comments from those two idiots calling the game. Dude is a special talent, just needs a little more help from the rest of the team.

[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by 312to937 I think it's pretty clear he's not 100% and limited in movement. I also think it might have to do with making Obi the focus more on offense late in games. Having Josh down low clogs things up for Obi.

Good points, but I think they’re going to have to figure out how to play with both Obi and Josh on the floor if this team is going to make a run in the A 10 tourney. There just aren’t enough other options. Next season is obviously a completely different story, but if this team still has enough in the tank to make a run (which is admittedly questionable), one would think Josh needs to be involved and utilized.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer Good points, but I think they’re going to have to figure out how to play with both Obi and Josh on the floor if this team is going to make a run in the A 10 tourney. There just aren’t enough other options. Next season is obviously a completely different story, but if this team still has enough in the tank to make a run (which is admittedly questionable), one would think Josh needs to be involved and utilized.

I know our bench is almost non existent, but we really need to get a little more production. 4 points and a couple rebounds isn’t going to cut it.

[Monster Man]

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[CvilleFlyer]

First time all year I didn't know who to vote for but I chose Lander's because his 3 turnovers seemed to be late in the game where one possession could have meant the difference between winning or losing. Zero points with all the minutes he played and the one time he drove the base line to the basket he got his shot blocked. On the tip in at the end of regulation I would have liked to see him take the chance and flush the ball with two hands and hope to beat the clock by a hair! He would have done that early in the season as he was more aggressive and used to dunk all the time!


It was a team loss, however, and everyone except Mikesell and Toppin didn't put forth the effort. Coach Grant is always careful in his post game interview not to throw anybody under the bus by naming names and I admire him for that. However, at least 5 out of our 10 losses are due to not coming out with intensity and not getting behind early in games and I think that is on him!

[mikeymo85]

i voted coach. When did number 10 for RI get his 4th foul? Coach should have made sure we attacked him every time we had the ball.

[WarriorPride]

Everyone listed deserves some fault, as Obi and Mikesell were the only ones on their game. But one thing is clear: with Grant's love affair with Crutcher, if he isn't playing well, the Flyers are doomed. How Cohill only plays 13 of 45 minutes is mind boggling. I'm willing to give AG 3 years for final judgement, but his handling of a short bench is not good.

[312to937]

Originally Posted by WarriorPride Everyone listed deserves some fault, as Obi and Mikesell were the only ones on their game. But one thing is clear: with Grant's love affair with Crutcher, if he isn't playing well, the Flyers are doomed. How Cohill only plays 13 of 45 minutes is mind boggling. I'm willing to give AG 3 years for final judgement, but his handling of a short bench is not good.

We needed a third scoring option last night. Cohill has not shown any ability to score yet (I get he's only a freshman, but it is what it is right now). Jalen has shown the ability, but has been inconsistent for sure.

I agree with Grant . . . you go with the guy that gives you the best odds (especially when you don't have a lot to play with). And right now that's Jalen.

[Flyer 86]

Going with Jordan and Crutch. Guards control the ball.

Gotta hit key shots to keep defenses honest.
1 for 4?

Dont blame Josh. Trey was injured recently.

Honestly most of year, offense slacking due to JD. I GIVE HIM defensive props, totally.

Crutch... d? Ha!

[TXFlyerFan]

If we were back on multi-vote, I would have voted Cunningham, Landers, Crutcher, and Davis. We were not given that option, so I selected our 5th year Senior, who once again was a non-factor and I think it's telling that he wasn't in the game late for part of the time. Before last night, he had 3 regular season games and at least 1 A10 tournament game left, followed by probably at least one NIT game. That was worst case scenario. And yet he just didn't show up. It's inconceivable that as his college career is winding down, he's not making the most of it.

[shocka43]

Everyone wearing a tank top not named Obi or Ryan.