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Old 04-06-2015, 08:13 AM
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Avery Johnson, former coach of Brooklyn Nets is taking Alabama job. Is from New Orleans and son plays for Texas A & M.
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Always interesting to see how hiring an ex NBA coach with no college experience works out.
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It could work because I think he is a good coach and certainly has the personality, name, and NBA ties that seem like a good recipe for recruiting success. But I think it's just as likely he is fired in 3 years.
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We will see how St. Johns and Alabama fare.
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The intriguing part of this family feud is that Avery Johnson's son plays for Texas A&M. I checked last year's schedule and Alabama played Texas A&M twice during the year. So, what do you talk about around the kitchen table? I've seen father's coach son's but I don't remember seeing faher's coach against sons before.
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St. Johns hired one to Iowa State's top assistants/recruiters and it sounds like they are going to try to be the East Coast version of Transfer U.
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Predictably, VCU has hired Will Wade. Good hire.
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John Brannen, one of Anthony Grant's assistants at Alabama, gets the Northern Kentucky University job. Brannen is a close friend of Grant.


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Gotta wonder if and when Jeff Capel & Anthony Grant are going to coach again?
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Brannen is also a Northern Ky native IIRC
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Dan McHale to be named coach of EKU. Was an assistant at Minn and Seton Hall.

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It is being reported that Bobby Hurley from Buffalo is the leading candidate for the Arizona State Univ. job.

And the carousel continues to go round and round.
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Old 04-09-2015, 07:38 AM
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Bobby Hurley has a worse whine-face than his brother at URI. I didn't think that was possible until I watched Buffalo against West Virginia in the tournament.

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If Hurley goes, Kuwik might get an interview for that Buffalo gig.
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If Hurley goes, Kuwik might get an interview for that Buffalo gig.
I would actually like to see that. I would like to see if he is capable at running a D1 team.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:21 AM
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I would actually like to see that. I would like to see if he is capable at running a D1 team.
Yeah, never want to mess with a coaching staff that's winning but it's not all bad. If Archie leaves in the next few years it would be nice to know what we have in Kevin Kuwik. Dayton could likely hire him back much like VCU has done with Will Wade.
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I would actually like to see that. I would like to see if he is capable at running a D1 team.
You may get your wish since Hurley did take the Arizona State job. I would not like to see him go, but I would certainly understand (and not begrudge a guy for) going from an assistant to a head coach. Totally different from switching from head coach of one school to another.
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It is being reported that Bobby Hurley from Buffalo is the leading candidate for the Arizona State Univ. job.

And the carousel continues to go round and round.
And it's official. Bobby Hurley is the new head coach at Arizona State. So, the Hurley brothers are now both head coaches in the same conferences as the Miller brothers, and both families have fathers who've been extremely successful high school coaches. It's like one scenario is a "bizarro" version of the other. IMHO, we're on the right side of that equation. 👍
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And it's official. Bobby Hurley is the new head coach at Arizona State. So, the Hurley brothers are now both head coaches in the same conferences as the Miller brothers, and both families have fathers who've been extremely successful high school coaches. It's like one scenario is a "bizarro" version of the other. IMHO, we're on the right side of that equation. ��
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How about a doubleheader at a neutral site?
Arizona vs Rhode Island
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Buffalo won a lot of games last year, made the tourney and returns everyone. That’s a pretty good situation, especially for a guy who is from Buffalo.
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How about a doubleheader at a neutral site?
Arizona vs Rhode Island
Arizona St vs Dayton
Works for me! And for a site, may I suggest any of the 3 following cities?
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- Memphis, TN

All have arenas that seat at least 16,000 for basketball, and all are kind of midway between Rhode Island and Arizona. Just a thought.
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You may get your wish since Hurley did take the Arizona State job. I would not like to see him go, but I would certainly understand (and not begrudge a guy for) going from an assistant to a head coach. Totally different from switching from head coach of one school to another.
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I think it is important to get the Archie Miller coaching tree to start getting some branches. Hiring Kuwik would also put everyone on notice that it is not just Archie individually getting the job done. It is the system and philosophy too. There is no replacing a personality like Shaka Smart but VCU made a quick hire of a former assistant. Wade may not have the personality of Smart but hopefully he has the coaching ability. I really hope Archie stays a long time but we just can't have another total reboot if he does leave.
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Works for me! And for a site, may I suggest any of the 3 following cities?
- Kansas City, MO
- St. Louis, MO
- Memphis, TN

All have arenas that seat at least 16,000 for basketball, and all are kind of midway between Rhode Island and Arizona. Just a thought.
Those sites wouldn't work. Someone would cry about UD's home-court advantage.
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I'm surprised that Hurley took that job...seems that he could've held out for something better, he is pretty hot right now...ASU has historically struggled...they had 3? NCAA appearances in the 20? years before Sendek arrived...Sendek delivered 3 appearances in 9 years, more than twice as good as the previous 9 years, and they fired him.

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I'm surprised that Hurley took that job...seems that he could've held out for something better, he is pretty hot right now...ASU has historically struggled...they had 3? NCAA appearances in the 20? years before Sendek arrived...Sendek delivered 3 appearances in 9 years, more than twice as good as the previous 9 years, and they fired him.
A mediocre program in a power conference that a coach thinks he can elevate is a good job. Arizona State is no Kentucky but if you are measuring by expectations, it's a safer gig too.
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It will be interesting to see if Devin Searcy's old HS coach Nate Oats moves with Hurley to ASU. He was an Assistant at Buffalo.
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I'm surprised that Hurley took that job...seems that he could've held out for something better, he is pretty hot right now...ASU has historically struggled...they had 3? NCAA appearances in the 20? years before Sendek arrived...Sendek delivered 3 appearances in 9 years, more than twice as good as the previous 9 years, and they fired him.
This article gives some insight into why Hurley may have left Buffalo. Sounds like the AD really mishandled the situation.

http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com...led-situation/

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1) leaked word of a contract extension when there was not one in an effort to pressure Hurley into signing an extension
2) refused to deal with Hurley's agent even though Hurley told him he was uncomfortable talking money and would rather his agent negotiate.
3) when Hurley asked to be the highest paid coach in the MAC, the AD offered only $1k a year more than the current highest paid coach.

Also interesting the Hurley did interview for the DePaul job but he "didn't like its recent track record in basketball, which was littered with failure for more than two decades."
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It will be interesting to see if Devin Searcy's old HS coach Nate Oats moves with Hurley to ASU. He was an Assistant at Buffalo.
Oats named interim head coach at Buffalo.


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Oats named interim head coach at Buffalo.


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Good for him. Got to know Nate a little bit when Devin was there and would see him at HS games later on, including right after his Romulus team lost to Percy Gibson and Detroit Southeastern in the MI HS Playoffs.
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I was wonder if Buffalo thought about Kuwik, whom I believe is from the area as a possible replacement.
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@GoodmanESPN: Buffalo has hired assistant Nate Oats to replace Bobby Hurley, sources told ESPN.
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Anthony Grant rejoins Billy Donovan's Florida staff...a spot on the staff opened up when Florida assistant coach Matt McCall took the UT Chattanooga hc job.
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This article gives some insight into why Hurley may have left Buffalo. Sounds like the AD really mishandled the situation.

http://buckyandsully.buffalonews.com...led-situation/

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1) leaked word of a contract extension when there was not one in an effort to pressure Hurley into signing an extension
2) refused to deal with Hurley's agent even though Hurley told him he was uncomfortable talking money and would rather his agent negotiate.
3) when Hurley asked to be the highest paid coach in the MAC, the AD offered only $1k a year more than the current highest paid coach.

Also interesting the Hurley did interview for the DePaul job but he "didn't like its recent track record in basketball, which was littered with failure for more than two decades."
As often is the case, this is a one-sided story about how things unfolded at Buffalo. Looks to me like Hurley visited DePaul as leverage for a better contract at Buffalo, then was insulted when the Buffalo AD didn't contact him for "several days" after he returned from Chicago? So! And he said he wanted to be highest paid in the MAC and when they did that $1K/year wasn't enough? So...they made him highest paid! He should've told them BY HOW MUCH he wanted to be highest paid. Oh yeah, he's not comfortable talking money. Comes off as spoiled little Dukie to me. It's not like is track record of success is all that long. Now he gets to match wits with Sean Miller in the desert...have fun with that.
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I sure hope the rest of the word’s opinion of the Miller clan (Archie, Sean, and Dad) is NOT anywhere near the total disdain I have for the Hurley clan. I have never heard the dad speak, but his demeanor shown on TV is not good, and both the sons come off as total jerks.
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I sure hope the rest of the word’s opinion of the Miller clan (Archie, Sean, and Dad) is NOT anywhere near the total disdain I have for the Hurley clan. I have never heard the dad speak, but his demeanor shown on TV is not good, and both the sons come off as total jerks.
Not me. Oh, how I wish other schools wouldn't care so much for Archie. I'd sleep better in the offseason for sure.
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I sure hope the rest of the word’s opinion of the Miller clan (Archie, Sean, and Dad) is NOT anywhere near the total disdain I have for the Hurley clan. I have never heard the dad speak, but his demeanor shown on TV is not good, and both the sons come off as total jerks.
The Hurleys are products of the "street smart" mentality of Jersey City. Jersey City is a tough place. While Bob Sr. is the long time coach of St. Anthony's HS in Jersey City, he is not an educator. His teams, as you know, have not only been state powers but also performed well on the national scene. To say he is a no nonsense guy is an understatement. He has sent many players on to play Div 1 basketball. He worked for the City of Jersey City in a law enforcement capacity, although he was not a cop. He speaks the "language of the street" to and with his players. St. Anthony's would have closed its doors a long time ago if not for the efforts of Bob Sr. If you want to get an idea of what he is like I recommend reading 'The Miracle of St. Anthony's" by the basketball writer Alex Wojchewski (not sure of the spelling of the last name) It is an easy read.
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I sure hope the rest of the word’s opinion of the Miller clan (Archie, Sean, and Dad) is NOT anywhere near the total disdain I have for the Hurley clan. I have never heard the dad speak, but his demeanor shown on TV is not good, and both the sons come off as total jerks.

If both Millers continue to be perennial participants in the tournament, the story/family will begin to grow tiresome to some. Initially it will likely be fans of in conference or rival teams.

The press loves an angle until they love it to death. I would expect this to be the same but it provides an interesting angle to an interesting angle. Arizona is going to be there. The key is for us to continue to be so that we can witness this social experiment in real time.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 2h 2 hours ago

Yahoo Sources: Scott Brooks' future as Oklahoma City Thunder coach uncertain. http://yhoo.it/1JMAgNi

This job if it becomes open could turn the college coaching carousel on its head if guys like Self, Donovan, Calipari & I dunno would become interested.

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Read a quote from John Miller about Sean. Said that if Sean had listened to him he would still be at Xavier.
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Well OKC Coach Scott Brooks was just fired moments ago

The carousel just started to turn again i think
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Have seen some speculation that Kevin Ollie will be targeted. UCONN opening would indeed start the carousel.
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If Billy Donovan goes to OKC Thunder, be ready to hear Archie Miller to Florida

Gary Parrish just tweeted that Florida can offer $4million to Archie or Greg Marshall.

Let's hope Ollie does go to Thunder. Archie to UCONN is unlikely, but Archie to Florida is very possible
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@GoodmanESPN Almost everyone I have spoken to close to Billy Donovan believes he will take the OKC job -- if/when it's offered.
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Gary Parrish just tweeted that Florida can offer $4million to Archie or Greg Marshall.
That's what Alabama was offering, and got no takers. Florida isn't Alabama though. $4 million would be a raise for either Miller or Marshall, but not as much as many may think.
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Well ladies and gentlemen... hold on to your butts this could get interesting

SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 6m6 minutes ago

John Calipari has made it known to Pelicans officials that he's interested in the team's head-coaching job. (via http://NOLA.com)

If true... EVERYTHING will turn in the College BBall Coaching Carousel
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SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 6m6 minutes ago

John Calipari has made it known to Pelicans officials that he's interested in the team's head-coaching job. (via http://NOLA.com)

If true... EVERYTHING will turn in the College BBall Coaching Carousel
Must be some violations ready to come to light...Past history shows that is when Cal decides to leave jobs.
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Then Cal tweeted out:

John Calipari ‏@UKCoachCalipari 10m10 minutes ago

Even though Anthony and Tyreke are in NOLA, I have no interest in the Pelicans or any other job. I have a great job and I'm happy at UK.
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So either the media reported something too early and without all of the facts...

Or a coach is not being honest about his intentions!

Both utterly shocking instances!
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Or.. Calapari inquired and the media got it right, then the Pelicans decided they wanted no part of him, and Calapari "changed his mind" and is not interested in that job or any other NBA gig, which would be truthful since I don't think there are any other openings at the moment.
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History has shown that Calipari may not be the most trustworthy guy... Archie is a cousin or somehow related to Calipari though.
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looks like Iowa State job is going to be available.

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Hoiberg wants the NBA

Fred's done a great job at ISU for 5 years. Solid program right now. 30 years, 15 NCAA trips, 3 Sweet Sixteen's and an ELITE 8. Would be a nice home-n-home for UD.

I don't see our guy being on their coaching carousel though.

Interesting fact= Drake is practically in ISU's back yard, and they no longer play each other after playing for a gazillion years. Wonder why Fred?
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Archie Miller is not going anywhere this year!
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Is it just me or is this a terrible hire? You've got a veteran team very much capable of challenging the Cavs / Hawks when healthy and you bring in a guy who's never coached in the NBA?

This feels like trading Ron Harper for Danny Ferry.
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Is it just me or is this a terrible hire? You've got a veteran team very much capable of challenging the Cavs / Hawks when healthy and you bring in a guy who's never coached in the NBA?

This feels like trading Ron Harper for Danny Ferry.
I do think Hoiberg will have success as an NBA coach. Not that far removed from playing in the NBA and has NBA front office experience. So that's pretty good experience to go with what he's done at Iowa State, where he ran transfers in and out like many NBA teams do with free agents, expiring contracts, and the lot. So to me, he seems like a safer NBA hire than Brad Stevens (who has done well) or Billy Donovan (we shall see).
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I do think Hoiberg will have success as an NBA coach. Not that far removed from playing in the NBA and has NBA front office experience. So that's pretty good experience to go with what he's done at Iowa State, where he ran transfers in and out like many NBA teams do with free agents, expiring contracts, and the lot. So to me, he seems like a safer NBA hire than Brad Stevens (who has done well) or Billy Donovan (we shall see).
The difference in my mind is that Boston was going nowhere, so the worst that could happen by hiring Stephens is that they would suck. Chicago is challenging for a title, why take a chance on a guy with no experience? He might be a genius and it might work great. I just think it's a big risk for a team that's ready to win right now.
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Hoiberg is an offensive minded coach, and they need to produce more consistent offense. Van Gundy that used to Coach the knicks, somewhat damaged imo and out of the game awhile, and defensive minded - like Thibs. So no go.

Skiles, I'm not sure they were interested in. Not sure who's around to coach.

Hoiberg knows the administration there, played for 4 years, has won (not the big stuff) at Iowa State. He needs to connect to players and show them he knows his stuff. Could go either way; I think it's a decent direction
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The difference in my mind is that Boston was going nowhere, so the worst that could happen by hiring Stephens is that they would suck. Chicago is challenging for a title, why take a chance on a guy with no experience? He might be a genius and it might work great. I just think it's a big risk for a team that's ready to win right now.
There are two first-year coaches in the NBA Finals this year, so I don't see it as that big of risk. The Kerr/Hoiberg similarities are certainly there. It might not work, but I think there is bigger upside than hiring some retread NBA coach.
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Lets be real here... NBA coaches, for the most part, are just ego strokers. You think the Cav's coach is gonna tell Lebron how to play or what to do?????
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There are two first-year coaches in the NBA Finals this year, so I don't see it as that big of risk. The Kerr/Hoiberg similarities are certainly there. It might not work, but I think there is bigger upside than hiring some retread NBA coach.
True, but, coaches do matter. Stephens in Boston--that guy is ridiculous what he's gotten out of that mess. But, maybe that only matters at the lowest levels. Maybe at the highest levels, where the superstars are running the show, the coaches matter much less.
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David Blatt didn't make the NBA Finals because he is a good coach though, so let's not act like that was a great hire.
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David Blatt didn't make the NBA Finals because he is a good coach though, so let's not act like that was a great hire.
That was neither said, nor was it implied.
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AM is north of that $1.5 number by a pretty good margin.
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So with Archie and big bro teaming up relatively soon on the U-19 squad does this put the coach (AM) out of touch for being in any discussion for Coach Carousel member?
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looks like Iowa State job is going to be available.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...g-fred-hoiberg
Steve Prohm from Murray State gets the Iowa State gig.

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I have a friend who is an ISU alumni so I was drawn to the watching the hiring process. With that, I watched a little of Steve Prohm's press conference. When you compare Archie to Prohm, it's clear which school has the more polished coach who can articulate the vision of his program. I'll take AM's player development over Transfer U any day. Thank goodness we have a great one like AM. See link's below and compare for yourself

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I'll take AM's player development over Transfer U any day.
If Iowa State is 'Transfer U' WTF are we?
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If Iowa State is 'Transfer U' WTF are we?
Jeff Goodman of ESPN compiles a transfer list every year. Last year's list was over 700 and this year's list is already almost that long.

Each transferring player results in 2 transactions (1 for school leaving, 1 for school going to), so that means about 2800 "transfers" occurred that last 2 years. I realize this discounts those that leave DI and go to a lower division, but that is a small percentage.

Doing some quick math 2800 transfers / 351 DI teams means the average school had 7.98 transfers in the last two years.

You can debate where Scott and Robinson should be included in UD's count, but they are included in Goodman's list so we will count them. According to Goodman's list, in the last two years UD has had 5 transfer out (Scott, Robinson, Price, Rogers, Gav) and 2 transfer in (Cooke, Bass).

So, UD has had 7 transfers in the last two years and the average DI school has had nearly 8.

I am sorry if reality doesn't fit your narrative, but that means UD is "More Stable Than the Average College Roster" U.
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Jeff Goodman of ESPN compiles a transfer list every year. Last year's list was over 700 and this year's list is already almost that long.

Each transferring player results in 2 transactions (1 for school leaving, 1 for school going to), so that means about 2800 "transfers" occurred that last 2 years. I realize this discounts those that leave DI and go to a lower division, but that is a small percentage.

Doing some quick math 2800 transfers / 351 DI teams means the average school had 7.98 transfers in the last two years.

You can debate where Scott and Robinson should be included in UD's count, but they are included in Goodman's list so we will count them. According to Goodman's list, in the last two years UD has had 5 transfer out (Scott, Robinson, Price, Rogers, Gav) and 2 transfer in (Cooke, Bass).

So, UD has had 7 transfers in the last two years and the average DI school has had nearly 8.

I am sorry if reality doesn't fit your narrative, but that means UD is "More Stable Than the Average College Roster" U.
Although it's obvious you don't realize it, and despite putting up one of the worst arguments ever, thank you for making my point.
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doesn't Rogers count as a transfer (Juco) in as well as the transfer out that you listed? Jucos are more of the route that ISU was built upon, at least in the Tim Floyd, Larry Eustachy days.

At any rate, transfers have become just a part of college life (they happen frequently for the general student population as well). I think people like to memorialize that a kid signs out of HS, spends a couple of seasons grinding away on the bench, gets a couple of seasons in the limelight, picks up his diploma and carries on to the "real world" as a productive member of society, perhaps that is the way it was many years ago, but its been at least 15 years since I read a preseason publication in SI about their top 20. Amongst the data they included for their top 20 was the number of transfers over the prior 10 seasons (this was a time when transfers were considered more dubious). Even 15 years ago, and the 10 years prior, which would be prior to any current recruit's birth, teams averaged a little over 1 transfer a season. Sure its picked up a bit since then, but transfers have long been a part of life in college basketball.

While you can pick on Scott & Robinson with good cause, you can easily counter that with players like Sibert, Vee, Price, and Gavs, none of which I can recall hearing anything negative about, so the stigma over character concerns, generically speaking, of transfers should be a mute issue. I think coaches are getting a little smarter, they realize with 13 scholarships, you can never get each kid into the game on a regular basis. Its hard enough to work in 10, let alone the last 3 spots for many teams. Having a guy that is forced to sit out a season, that you can count on playing hard in practice, because that is all they have from game situation basketball is a big bonus. Having a kid with the talents of Jordan or Vee leading the scout team for a season is a nice luxury.

Essentially, every school is transfer U at this point. The only schools that don't see their "fair" share of transfers are the schools like UK or Duke that routinely place kids into the draft after only a season or 2 on camps, and both of those programs have seen kids transfer in and out a handful of times over the last 2-3 seasons.
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Doing some quick math 2800 transfers / 351 DI teams means the average school had 7.98 transfers in the last two years.
So that translates to 4 kids per year or "roughly" 25% of your roster every year. I wonder what the numbers look like if you remove all of the schools that did not have any transfers. It would certainly increase the numbers and percentages, but by how much?
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Tennessee fans have to be wondering who the heck they ****ed off....

Since the pictures of Craft (and another recruit) showing up at a Bruce Pearl cookout at his house emerged, and the subsequent fallout, they lost Cuonzo Martin to Cal (I think many would say they weren't patient enough with him), hire Tynsdal only to have reports surface of violations at his prior stop, and now this...

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Syracuse names their next coach.

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Bo Ryan put out a press release saying he will coach one more year and that he wants his assistant his longtime Greg Gard to get the job when he retires.
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Tennessee fans have to be wondering who the heck they ****ed off....
Let me see. Texas basketball players shared a few things with the disfunctional football team that Charlie Strong had to clean up. Like dorms, tutors, Athletic Dept, Athletic Director........

So Rick Barnes was squeaky clean?
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I see where Anthony Grant is now an assistant coach in the NBA with Oklahoma City.
Ex-UD assistant Billy Schmidt, who was with Donovan at Florida last year, is also on the OKC staff as a quality control coach.
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