From This Point Forward

[NJFlyr71]

We are half way through the Conference schedule and 8-1 so what say you about the season conference games yet to be played?


In the morning DDN sports page a list of games to be played was listed with the following history we have had with each team. Here it is:

@GM only 1 A10 win
Vs the Dukes 5-4
@ Rhode Island we have lost 6 straight at their place!
@St Joe's Won 7 straight and we have lost 7 straight at Philly
Vs Bonnies 5-3 and they have lost 6 straight here
@ St Louis although 3-6 they should be tuff at their place
Vs Rhode Island always seem to provide the disappointment to our season
@ Spiders we lost 6 straight to them at their place
and finally depending on what happens in the games above, The Big One

Vs VCU beat us here in 2014 we beat them at their place last year

Based upon history and a little subjectiveness here is my take on the rest of the story:

UD goes 6-3 with loses to Rhode Island @ RI, @ St Joe's and at the Spiders

What do you think Realistic , Optimistic or Pessimistic ?

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Radar]

Sweep at home. 3-2 (worse case) on the road.

[VirgM]

not to jinx us but..

I think we lose one road game (St. Joes...ugh!!!) and VCU loses one somewhere and we beat VCU to share the A-10 title

[Flyer 86]

To Uacflyer happiness, we should beat URI in Kingston

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[ruechalgrin]

17% chance to be 26-4 or better
8% 22-8 or worse
75% chance 23-7 to 25-5

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Dayton.html

[priceg75]

We will break 2 of the 3 streaks against URI, SJU, and Richmond.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[Cbusflyer07]

At Mason, win. Duquesne win. At Rhode Island, when. At Saint Joey brackets, loss and moved down a whole seed line. Saint Bonaventure, close win. At St. Louis, when. Rhode Island close win. At Richmond, we get caught looking ahead to their cross town neighbors. Loss. VCU, tossup. I will go ahead and give us a three point Win since we are at home. 7 and 2 finish.
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[66flyer]

I'm hoping the law of averages catches up and we break the losing streaks at URI, SJU and UR. Anything is possible. Just believe! The LaSalle loss was a blessing in disguise (even Archie thinks so, lol) reminding the team what happens when they lose focus and let themselves get flustered by the other team doing something different. Sat. it took a while to get back on track, but they did it with the memory of the LaS loss flashing before their eyes.
I just hope everyone stays healthy.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[Piqua Flyer '66]

I won't guess how we finish
but I optimistically predict
that just as we did the past
2 years we will play well in the
NCAA - due to our awesome consistent
Relentless never give up defense
and this yr advance
to the Sweet 16 - nobody - nobody
wants to face out D on a neutral
floor!! Once to Field of 16 ANYTHING
can happen because D becomes even
more significant. GO FLYERS!

[ScottyExpress]

8-1 first half of conference, 8-1 second half. Will be disappointed if any worse. I REALLY want an undisputed A10 regular season championship. Looks like we may have to win em all to do that and still need help. Remember, VCU is unblemished so far in the conference.

[SeasonTicketFan]

Looking at the schedule.

A10 Records of first half teams including W and Ls against UD 27-40.
A10 Record of second half teams including 2 Ls already to UD 36-30.

If you take away the UD games, the first half A10 opponents records is 26-33. The second half opponents are 36-28 without 2 losses to UD. Fortunately, both of those return games are at home.

The next 9 games will have tougher opponents. Let's see how UD responds.

[shapanud]

According to kenpom, of the last 9 games, there are...

5 that UD will be a 7 or more point favorite (@GMU, Duq, SBU, SLU, URI)
4 that UD will be +/- 3pts (@URI, @SJU, @UR, VCU)
Again, according to kenpom 6-3 is the most likely outcome.

Last year was the first year with the 18 games schedule and 14-4 won the league outright.

The year before 13-3 won the league outright (SLU---remember when they were good).

I would bet 15-3 w/ a win over VCU should give UD the #1 seed in the A-10 tournament.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Jeff]

Plugged all the data points mentioned above into the quadratic equation. Came up with a reasonable aswer:

1. Sweep the remaining season.
2. New arena changes suspended in lieue of bronze statue of Archie.

[ScottyExpress]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan Looking at the schedule. A10 Records of first half teams including W and Ls against UD 27-40. A10 Record of second half teams including 2 Ls already to UD 36-30. If you take away the UD games, the first half A10 opponents records is 26-33. The second half opponents are 36-28 without 2 losses to UD. Fortunately, both of those return games are at home. The next 9 games will have tougher opponents. Let's see how UD responds.

What is the breakdown for VCU?

[1903 Flyer]

VCU remaining schedule:

8 games that VCU will be a 7 or more point favorite (only 1 against RPI Top 75)
2 that VCU will be +/- 3pts (@GW, @UD)

I think 16-2 wins the conference this year.

[shapanud]

Originally Posted by ScottyExpress What is the breakdown for VCU?

Kenpom expected is 16-2.

I hadn't looked at VCU's schedule, but it is very favorable the rest of the way. 15-3 might not win the league this year.

3 road games against the 3 teams at the bottom of the league (LaSalle, UMass, GMU) and then two +/-3pt road games (@GW, @UD).

5 home games where they will be 9pt or more favorite: GW, SLU, URI, UR, Dav

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by 1903 Flyer VCU remaining schedule: 8 games that VCU will be a 7 or more point favorite (only 1 against RPI Top 75) 2 that VCU will be +/- 3pts (@GW, @UD) I think 16-2 wins the conference this year.

I think 16-2 gets a share of the title. It is going to take 17-1 to win it outright.

[longtimefan]

Realistically, I see 6-3 the rest of the way, 14-4 and second in the A-10. We have several tough road games left. If VCU loses one game before they lose to us they would be 16-2. Even two losses before they play us would put them at 15-3. We could finish 15-3 but it will be tough. 24-6 with a couple wins in the A-10 Tourney would get us a very good seed. Hope for better but couldn't complain about 14-4.

[UD90]

Pomeroy says:
Sat Feb 6 204 George Mason W, 69-62 65 79% Away ×
Tue Feb 9 131 Duquesne W, 77-66 71 86% Home ×
Fri Feb 12 81 Rhode Island L, 64-63 63 49% Away ×
Wed Feb 17 42 Saint Joseph's L, 69-66 68 37% Away ×
Sat Feb 20 74 St. Bonaventure W, 74-67 67 77% Home ×
Tue Feb 23 248 Saint Louis W, 71-61 67 85% Away ×
Sat Feb 27 81 Rhode Island W, 67-60 63 78% Home ×
Tue Mar 1 95 Richmond W, 74-73 67 53% Away ×
Sat Mar 5 28 VCU W, 69-66 68 59% Home ×
Projected record: 24-6 14-4

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Flyer 86]

Originally Posted by longtimefan Realistically, I see 6-3 the rest of the way, 14-4 and second in the A-10. We have several tough road games left. If VCU loses one game before they lose to us they would be 16-2. Even two losses before they play us would put them at 15-3. We could finish 15-3 but it will be tough. 24-6 with a couple wins in the A-10 Tourney would get us a very good seed. Hope for better but couldn't complain about 14-4.

agreed. We'll stub our two with one bad loss. Plus a loss to St Joe's or VCU would put us in 2nd most likely. Totally fine with that.

I just want Scooch to get it going. If he gets going and everyone else continues on as is..... we'll be solid. No Scoochie effectiveness, we're in trouble either in Brooklyn or the NCAA.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[Piqua Flyer '66]

How do we lose at RI per Pomroy?
I thought they had 3/4 starters hurt.
Other loses I can see

[Medford]

I doubt Pomeroy has injuries, current or past factored into his equations. I'd assume its simply numbers driven (though trough a complicated formula) so prediction models are only as good as the state of the players available for that game.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 How do we lose at RI per Pomroy? I thought they had 3/4 starters hurt. Other loses I can see

I pretty much said the same thing in another thread. That is a flaw in the predictive models. They don't know what has happened recently. Everyone talks about VanVleet being out for Wichita St and what effect that had on WSU's results. How would the Flyers done of Pierre was with them from the start. Not so much wins and losses but the efficiency ratings and other models?

[San Diego Flyer]

We lost to X and even Steph Curry wouldn't have help our tired legs in that game.

Then we lose to Chat with Pierre out, and lose to LaSalle with Pollard out. With a full deck I really believe we would be 20-1 right now.

So with a tougher 2nd half A10 schedule, IF we stay healthy, I see us 8-1. But that is a big
"IF". Pollard has awakened the beast in himself, but apparently he is fighting tendonitis and is a bit fragile---not that you could tell by looking at him.

The key to our season is for our studs to stay healthy and focused---even more so than who is hurt on our opponents roster.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[NJFlyr71]

So besides the rest of the regular season conjecture how does everyone feel about the following 3 scenarios?

Outcome 1: UD does not finish the regular season as Conference champs BUT wins the Tournament in Brooklyn.

Outcome 2: UD does not win either as regular season champs OR Tourney champs.

Outcome 3: UD finishes as regular season Conference champs BUT loses in the tourney.

I don't include winning both regular season and the tourney since almost no one I know would have anything but a extremely proud response to that great outcome.

So let me hear what would make you be 'satisfied' with any of the 3 outcomes listed above

[rollo]

Originally Posted by NJFlyr71 So besides the rest of the regular season conjecture how does everyone feel about the following 3 scenarios? Outcome 1: UD does not finish the regular season as Conference champs BUT wins the Tournament in Brooklyn. Outcome 2: UD does not win either as regular season champs OR Tourney champs. Outcome 3: UD finishes as regular season Conference champs BUT loses in the tourney. I don't include winning both regular season and the tourney since almost no one I know would have anything but a extremely proud response to that great outcome. So let me hear what would make you be 'satisfied' with any of the 3 outcomes listed above

Momentum, perception and Royal Swag are vital come Selection Sunday, so I'm leaning toward Outcome 1...UD does not finish the regular season as Conference champs BUT wins the Tournament in Brooklyn.

[UDFlyer23]

Originally Posted by rollo Momentum, perception and Royal Swag are vital come Selection Sunday, so I'm leaning toward Outcome 1...UD does not finish the regular season as Conference champs BUT wins the Tournament in Brooklyn.

Agreed. If it can only be one or the other I would rather have the momentum from winning in Brooklyn heading into Selection Sunday. It's all about success in March, that's what is most important.

[San Diego Flyer]

The official A10 Championship goes through Brooklyn. That triumph has Maui-ish lasting press. The league finish is all about seeding. Not as relevant.

[frisco flyer]

Due to the uneven schedule, I think our chances of winning the A10 Tournament are far better than winning the A10 regular season championship. Schedule-wise, the deck is stacked in favor of VCU.

[UDFlyer23]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Due to the uneven schedule, I think our chances of winning the A10 Tournament are far better than winning the A10 regular season championship. Schedule-wise, the deck is stacked in favor of VCU.

I expect we finish 14-4 or 15-3 at best. Depending on how SJU finishes and the crucial game at their place we are looking at the 2/3 seed for Brooklyn. Ideally we get the 2 seed and get revenge against VCU from last year in the Championship. Then you can book us for a 5 seed at worst in the Big Dance.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[CE80]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Due to the uneven schedule, I think our chances of winning the A10 Tournament are far better than winning the A10 regular season championship. Schedule-wise, the deck is stacked in favor of VCU.

I think from the start we had the advantage. If we had not lost at LaSalle I think we would still have the advantage. The one game we have with VCU is at UD Arena. While we could lose any gave prior to that, the one that concerns me the most is at Joes. VCU has already won there.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[Sea Bass]

If they play their half court offense with good pace they will win a bunch, if they don't they will struggle.

[Jeff]

This is a total no brainer....

Stud senior, great juniors, stud transfer, great team D, what's not to like?

Seriously, get on the bandwagon and enjoy the Kool-Aid, this puppy is winning out. Throw jaded history out the window and enjoy the season!!!

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Jeff This is a total no brainer.... Stud senior, great juniors, stud transfer, great team D, what's not to like? Seriously, get on the bandwagon and enjoy the Kool-Aid, this puppy is winning out. Throw jaded history out the window and enjoy the season!!! "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"

I'm no expert in this, but don't we have the weakest pod in the A10?

Why are so many people saying that the most talented team in the A10, with the weakest A10 schedule, loaded with juniors and seniors, is a 2nd place team??

I agree with Jeff. Why should we expect to lose ANY games in the A10??

[Whacker]

The only major flaw I see with Dayton right now is their scoring droughts. I love they way there are defending & I like how they are finally moving the ball better. If Dayton drops any more games it most likely will be because of their inability to get high-percentage shots when they need them or leaving too many points on the foul line. Seems like when they need a bucket they are having Scooch screen for Pierre at FT line to get Dyshawn the ball down on the right block. Good teams are sniffing that out after the first few times Dayton runs it. Looking forward to Archie creatively scheming to get the ball into Pierre's hands when it matters.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Jeff This is a total no brainer.... Stud senior, great juniors, stud transfer, great team D, what's not to like? Seriously, get on the bandwagon and enjoy the Kool-Aid, this puppy is winning out. Throw jaded history out the window and enjoy the season!!! "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"

Spicoli, is that you???

[cj]

Spicoli or Oddball?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Jeff This is a total no brainer.... Stud senior, great juniors, stud transfer, great team D, what's not to like? Seriously, get on the bandwagon and enjoy the Kool-Aid, this puppy is winning out. Throw jaded history out the window and enjoy the season!!! "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"

This is right on. We will look back decades from now and realize that Archie Miller and this edition of the Flyers is a prolonged golden age for Dayton basketball. Just look backwards and it's obvious our really strong pushes came in waves. This is one of them. How long will the Flyer's bull market last? If you know that, I want to know your current stock picks.

[jack72]

VCU plays GW twice. They end at GW, Davidson and at UD.

We play at St Joe and VCU home.

Advantage UD.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[CE80]

Originally Posted by jack72 VCU plays GW twice. They end at GW, Davidson and at UD. We play at St Joe and VCU home. Advantage UD.

VCU is undefeated. Flyers have a loss. I'd call it even.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[jack72]

Originally Posted by CE80 VCU is undefeated. Flyers have a loss. I'd call it even.

When we beat VCU we will have the tiebreaker. Touche

[CE80]

Originally Posted by jack72 When we beat VCU we will have the tiebreaker. Touche

Agreed that would get you the #1 seed for the A10 tourney. I am not as concerned with the A10 tourney seeding but I really want an undisputed regular season championship (as well as the tournament championship).

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by CE80 Agreed that would get you the #1 seed for the A10 tourney. I am not as concerned with the A10 tourney seeding but I really want an undisputed regular season championship (as well as the tournament championship).

The banner would still say A10 Champs...not co champs. We beat VCU we are the undisputed champs.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 The banner would still say A10 Champs...not co champs. We beat VCU we are the undisputed champs.

You can print whatever you want on a banner but they would be co champs.

[Medford]

and 20 years from now, the banner in the corner of the arena would say A10 champs, and nobody would think otherwise.

[CE80]

Nobody? I still plan on being alive in 20 years.

[Medford]

I'm praying that the other 20 banners next to it clouds your memory.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by jack72 VCU plays GW twice. They end at GW, Davidson and at UD. We play at St Joe and VCU home. Advantage UD.

I think you are forgetting our other four road games. No road game is a sure win.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by longtimefan I think you are forgetting our other four road games. No road game is a sure win.

Yep, we lost at LaSalle. We can lose to anybody on the road.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[SC_Flyer]

I did a quick analysis where I averaged the RPI and KenPom rankings for the remaining teams for both VCU and Dayton. There are two common opponents that I removed (Rhode Island and @GW) as those should be considered a wash. I then averaged the (RPI+KenPom) values for each team's Home Games and Away Games. Here are the averages (lower=tougher of course):

VCU
Home Ave = 122.4
Away Ave = 93.2
Overall Ave = 109.9

Dayton
Home Ave = 64.2
Away Ave = 122.1
Overall Ave = 97.3

The big conclusion is that VCU has tougher opponents on average away from their court and Dayton has tougher opponents at home. I too agree that this equates to Advantage=Dayton.

I added the overall Average to the data above as well. VCU wins the overall average battle, but I would still prefer Dayton's setup with easier teams on the road and harder teams at home. Surely, others will disagree.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[CE80]

UD - @GM; Duq; @URI; @SJU; SBU; @SLU; URI; @Rich; VCU
VCU - GW; @UMass; SLU; URI; Rich; @GM; @GW; DAV; @UD

Common Opponents/location - @GM; URI

According to the CE80ET, these are equivalent:
Duq/DAV; @SJU/@GW; SBU/GW; @SLU/@UMass

That leaves;
UD - @URI; @Rich; VCU
VCU - SLU; Rich; @UD

I would rather have VCU's remaining schedule.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[SC_Flyer]

Originally Posted by CE80 According to the CE80ET

CE80 Eye Test I presume?

[longtimefan]

We have 5 road games left. VCU has only 4, and they have a one game lead. I think our best case scenario is a tie with them at 15-3 with us having the tiebreaker with a win over them. I would like to get to 16-2, but I just don't see us winning 4 of our 5 road games. 7-2 on the road is a little too much to ask for. And, of course, St Bonnie at home (not to mention VCU) is scary as well. (But, of course, they ALL scare me.)

[Flyer 86]

With good games and our droughts (and they are real) Bonnies and St Joes can beat us.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[NJFlyr71]

Currently (before the GM game) we are 18-3 and with my realistic estimate of the remainder of the conference season being 6-3 that makes us 24-6.

Not bad at all for a season. With our SOS and RPI considered very respectable.

Once you're in the tournament the season is reset and we go from there.

So I would say adding some probabilities of yin and yang to the mark 24-6 we could be anywhere from 26-4 to 22-8.

Does that range of results meet or exceed your expectations that you thought about from way back in November?

Going to the NCAA once again, and that being 3 years in a row does that make this a part of some heady times or what?

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by NJFlyr71 Currently (before the GM game) we are 18-3 and with my realistic estimate of the remainder of the conference season being 6-3 that makes us 24-6. Not bad at all for a season. With our SOS and RPI considered very respectable. Once you're in the tournament the season is reset and we go from there. So I would say adding some probabilities of yin and yang to the mark 24-6 we could be anywhere from 26-4 to 22-8. Does that range of results meet or exceed your expectations that you thought about from way back in November? Going to the NCAA once again, and that being 3 years in a row does that make this a part of some heady times or what?

22-8 is underperforming my expectations. This team has serious talent and should be much better than that.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by Gazoo 22-8 is underperforming my expectations. This team has serious talent and should be much better than that.

A team with that record and talent could win the NIT.

[ScottyExpress]

Originally Posted by CE80 A team with that record and talent could win the NIT.

I just got home from work, opened my first Miller High Life of the evening, and nearly spit it all over my TV screen after reading above.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by ScottyExpress I just got home from work, opened my first Miller High Life of the evening, and nearly spit it all over my TV screen after reading above.

Then my work is done.