Pollard update... Not a good one too

[lhsgolf19]

Matthew Schwade ‏@FlyerHoops 4m4 minutes ago

Archie just said from what he gathers, Kendall Pollard will not be returning anytime soon.


Also not surprising here:

Matthew Schwade ‏@FlyerHoops 5m5 minutes ago

Also said Steve McElvene will be back in the starting lineup on Tuesday.

[224]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Matthew Schwade ‏@FlyerHoops 4m4 minutes ago Archie just said from what he gathers, Kendall Pollard will not be returning anytime soon. Also not surprising here: Matthew Schwade ‏@FlyerHoops 5m5 minutes ago Also said Steve McElvene will be back in the starting lineup on Tuesday.

Lose Jalen Robinson - next man up.
Lose Devon Scott - next man up.
Lose Ryan Bass - next man up.
Dewton Rodgers and Big Steve sit out a year - next man up
Lose Dyshawn Piere - next man up

Lose Kendall Pollard - We are 1-3 this year w/o him.

Kendall obviously has a much bigger impact on the game than most of us give him credit for. Even when he isn't scoring, he impacts the game. We need him back asap.

[lhsgolf19]

David Jablonski @DavidPJablonski

Archie Miller said Kendall Pollard won't be back anytime soon. Still day to day. My guess is he's out for at least both games next week.

[Avid Flyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 David Jablonski @DavidPJablonski Archie Miller said Kendall Pollard won't be back anytime soon. Still day to day. My guess is he's out for at least both games next week.

I feel we've blown the A-10 regular championship so lets just rest Pollard and go for the A-10 tourney trophy.

[CE80]

Hashed and rehashed the game today and playing without Pollard. We better hit better than 25% from 3 or we are in trouble against everyone but the bottom teams.
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[rollo]

I kinda hinted this was the case on Th when I asked whether Wehrli's minutes were out of frustration or necessity and nobody picked up on it.

Think people! Especially when it's me who is talking!

UGH!

[C-time]

It's time to teach XW to play the 5 spot just so we have another option. Maybe he can use his athleticism to get some rebounds and defend the pick and roll better.

[MikeF]

Originally Posted by 224 Kendall obviously has a much bigger impact on the game than most of us give him credit for. Even when he isn't scoring, he impacts the game. We need him back asap.

With Pollard out of the lineup, almost everything changes and on both ends of the court.

Rotation-wise, rather than Sam Miller being asked to spell someone he's asked - well, was asked - to provide starter's minutes. By moving him up one spot on the ladder, everyone else gets pulled up, too, so rather than the subs - I'll throw Miller, Williams, and Wehrli together - giving us 14 minutes per game they're required to provide 40 (though one could reasonably argue McElvene's minutes should go here).

Defensively, while Pollard has his bouts with foul trouble, he's generally a strong body that can provide resistance and match up against an opponent's 4 and when needed their 5 for stretches. He's also athletic enough and aggressive enough to bring some level of intimidation and rebounding while helping a bit more on screens up top. Finally, his presence allows Pierre to only worry about Pierre's man. When The Subs are in the game, unfortunately they're not strong enough defensively - no just physically, but mentally - and they just become targets which get abused, forcing people like Pierre and McElvene to provide cover.

Offensively, Pollard's absence seems to throw off the team's dynamic. He's strong, can get points inside using his butt, and can take defenders off the dribble. He allows the other players to space a bit farther, I think, which seems to allow for more slashing opportunities. The Subs, however - with the exception of McElvene if he's include - , aren't consistent enough threats, yet. Although Miller seems to be a decent shooter, I think opponents are OK with him shooting outside. And by hanging around outside, the other perimeter players look squished together. Everything's just off.

[Piqua Flyer '66]

I dont understand my own logic.......
We won a bunch without Pierre
We are struggling w/o KP
Therefore KP is a better player then Pierre?!!
Really?
I just think the close game w/L % are catching up with UD.

[SeasonTicketFan]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 I dont understand my own logic....... We won a bunch without Pierre We are struggling w/o KP Therefore KP is a better player then Pierre?!! Really? I just think the close game w/L % are catching up with UD.

Not a matter of who is better. The best chances of winning are when both are playing.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by C-time It's time to teach XW to play the 5 spot just so we have another option. Maybe he can use his athleticism to get some rebounds and defend the pick and roll better.

I agree. I'm tired of watching Sam Miller having the ball taken right out of his grip. He's just weak with the ball and he's selfish with it too. He some how can't get it through his head that when you get the ball inside, one option is to kick it out quickly like Steve does. If the Big guy can't muscle it to the hoop every time he gets it inside, Sam Miller certainly can't.

I understand why AM tried starting him. He want's to bring Steve off the bench so he can control his fouling. But Miller isn't it. And it certainly isn't Wehrli.

It's time to get XW his minutes. He has a better handle on the ball and is more athletic and even more important, will be heavily depended upon for the future so it's time he started getting more minutes.

If we have to go with what we've seen the past two games for most of the rest of season, this is going to turn into a lesser version of 2007-2008.

[jack72]

One of the most important things with Pollard is we get 5 more fouls to give. Until Steve learns to avoid the calls, that is of extreme importance. After the first several minutes yesterday we had to play without Pollard, Steve or Sam. It became five on four plus Bobby.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 I dont understand my own logic....... We won a bunch without Pierre We are struggling w/o KP Therefore KP is a better player then Pierre?!! Really? I just think the close game w/L % are catching up with UD.

Nope...we are deeper at the positions that DP can play...we also have the ability to manage lineups to get around DP not being on the floor.

There isn't a fix for not having your best post player on the floor. Miller...not formidable on a consistent basis in the paint...can't play D. Steve is good when the ball is high, struggles elsewhere, foul liability....

[TerryK_67]

Those that think that getting Pollard back will solve what ails the Flyers are delusional. The inside game is being stopped by clogging things up with all 5 defenders. No incentive for the D to go out and defend guys that can't make baskets. Pollard would be just one more guy in the quagmire.... albeit a good one to have in there. The future is bleak if we cannot find ways to return to making baskets!

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by TerryK_67 Those that think that getting Pollard back will solve what ails the Flyers are delusional. The inside game is being stopped by clogging things up with all 5 defenders. No incentive for the D to go out and defend guys that can't make baskets. Pollard would be just one more guy in the quagmire.... albeit a good one to have in there. The future is bleak if we cannot find ways to return to making baskets!

You have to ask yourself why the perimeter game is better with Pollard on the floor.

Pollard on the floor gets the perimeter open looks. It won't solve the problems of not guarding a ball screen or lack of effort...but it will free up the perimeter as he can handle the ball on the perimeter and can work the high post off the bounce. I like Steve, but he is pretty one dimensional on O...get him the ball high or going at the rim and he will finish. Miller just can't get it done and for the few good performances, he wipes it out with bad D on a consistent basis.

The biggest thing is that he makes people better around him as he brings intensity that others follow. He is a leader on the floor and the intensity by all hasn't been there without him. That says something.

[CoffeeCan]

From @JonRothstein
"Dayton's Kendall Pollard (knee) will not play tonight at Saint Louis, a school spokesman" told @CBSSports.

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[jack72]

I wish Archie would give a little more detail. To say it is a knee and he is day to day lets fans minds wonder whether there is more to this story? Seriously, day to day for three weeks plus? He can stay within the HIPPA guidelines and say a little more. Is it a knee? Is it even an injury? When will he play, since he has not been day to day?

[FlyerNation23]

Hopefully it is not the same knee injury that kept Detwon Rogers out all year

For real though, if KP does not return soon - how do we hope he is in bball shape to make any impact in A10/NCAA Tourney?

[Ready Action]

Originally Posted by jack72 I wish Archie would give a little more detail. To say it is a knee and he is day to day lets fans minds wonder whether there is more to this story? Seriously, day to day for three weeks plus? He can stay within the HIPPA guidelines and say a little more. Is it a knee? Is it even an injury? When will he play, since he has not been day to day?

In a few reports Archie has been quoted as saying "it's a bruise in-between the two knee bones" as in bone on bone. I guess that means some type of articulate cartilage issue. From what I've read KP can stand the pain while playing, but the next day he cannot walk and it takes him days to recover.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by jack72 I wish Archie would give a little more detail. To say it is a knee and he is day to day lets fans minds wonder whether there is more to this story? Seriously, day to day for three weeks plus? He can stay within the HIPPA guidelines and say a little more. Is it a knee? Is it even an injury? When will he play, since he has not been day to day?

Archie doesn't have HIPPA guidelines to stay within...the healthcare provider does.

[pmcmullen]

Here's my thing - I love KP. Really. I have a man crush on him. He's just a great impact!

But...

The last couple years we've faced adversity with a different mindset. We just hit it straight in the mouth. Right now, we're making excuses, and it's biting us right where Forest Gump took a bullet. Someone(s) need to cowboy up and make it happen.

It needs to start right now - tonight - in St. Louis.

[UDFlyer23]

Not having Pollard hurts, especially on the defensive end. Darrell Davis needs to step up and produce. In order to make up for the loss of Pollard he HAS to score 10-13 points a game.

With the minutes he's getting there's no reason for him not to knock down a couple of open looks. I believe we are undefeated when he scores in double digits.

[CE80]

Steve needs to develop the mindset from last year - no stupid fouls. He needs to stay on the court. Let Miller and Werhli give him some strategic rest. The Davis boys need to make an impact on both ends of the court.

[Townie]

Originally Posted by shocka43 Archie doesn't have HIPPA guidelines to stay within...the healthcare provider does.

Yes he does. He is privy to private health information thus he is covered under HIPPA.

[LIBob]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 I believe we are undefeated when he scores in double digits.

Incorrect, he had 13 points vs. St. Joseph's.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by Townie Yes he does. He is privy to private health information thus he is covered under HIPPA.

You mean the same HIPPA that Louisville Assistant Athletic Director was bound by while speaking on Kevin Ware's broken leg with Louisville...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/sport/...uisville-ware/

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 Not having Pollard hurts, especially on the defensive end. Darrell Davis needs to step up and produce. In order to make up for the loss of Pollard he HAS to score 10-13 points a game. With the minutes he's getting there's no reason for him not to knock down a couple of open looks. I believe we are undefeated when he scores in double digits.

DD has to continue to sharpen his game all around. He is making progress. 2 assists per TO would be nice. And he can't take 16 shots to get his double figures.

I wish we would give those shots to Steve. He is 15/20 in his last 4 games. We need to milk that. Plus he is a good ft shooter.

[UDFlyer23]

Originally Posted by LIBob Incorrect, he had 13 points vs. St. Joseph's.

Thanks for the fact check. Regardless, Darrell is going to be the x-factor on offense that we need production from to make up for the loss on the defensive end. It goes without saying that Big Steve is the difference on that end if he can stay on the floor.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Ive got an armchair quarterback fix to the problem..............Bobby gets Sam's minutes. It's clear X and Sam just aren't ready for the spotlight. Wehrli has been there, he's low risk, stays within himself and is smart. He also rises above himself once or twice a game with a big/good play. Lest we forget the game last year where he banged in 3 threes. We don't need much, we need a 37 year old Peyton Manning approach. Nothing stupid, stick with what you can do and don't lose the game. If Pollard is worst case scenario and done, I have zero issue with sticking to the 8 man, Steve in the starting 5 and Crosby Darrell and Bobby sporadic minutes off the bench. Its big boy pants time and I think Scooch Dyshawn and Cooke need to be out there 35 minutes,Kyle 30, and Steve 25-28. Small ball has worked before and it can again.

This is the problem of no more Jordan Sibert too. No clear cut option. I rewatched Boise State last night. That 3 he hit was a play drawn up specifically to get him that shot off two screens. Thing of freaking beauty. Cooke is a better percentage shooter but no where near Sibert in money time.

[KYFlyer]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 Ive got an armchair quarterback fix to the problem..............Bobby gets Sam's minutes. It's clear X and Sam just aren't ready for the spotlight. Wehrli has been there, he's low risk, stays within himself and is smart. He also rises above himself once or twice a game with a big/good play. Lest we forget the game last year where he banged in 3 threes. We don't need much, we need a 37 year old Peyton Manning approach. Nothing stupid, stick with what you can do and don't lose the game. If Pollard is worst case scenario and done, I have zero issue with sticking to the 8 man, Steve in the starting 5 and Crosby Darrell and Bobby sporadic minutes off the bench. Its big boy pants time and I think Scooch Dyshawn and Cooke need to be out there 35 minutes,Kyle 30, and Steve 25-28. Small ball has worked before and it can again. This is the problem of no more Jordan Sibert too. No clear cut option. I rewatched Boise State last night. That 3 he hit was a play drawn up specifically to get him that shot off two screens. Thing of freaking beauty. Cooke is a better percentage shooter but no where near Sibert in money time.

Bobby gives up more points than he can ever score. And I agree that he would be as effective as Peyton Manning playing basketball for us. Which means not.

We have a guy who is 15/20 in his last 4 games, a guy averaging 16 points a game, a guy who seemingly can score at will when he touches it in the paint. The problem is not that we don't have options the issue is that we are choosing the wrong options. A 3 off the bounce without working it. A drive into traffic with no kick. A long outlet when it's not there.

When this teams works on offense, the options are many and clear cut on every play and we never take bad shots. When we stand around or someone tries to be the 'clear-cut option', we are in trouble. True Team is more than a slogan. It is our offensive and defensive strategy and needs to be followed every minute of every game period.

[priceg75]

The problem is Steve is a freaking fouling machine, so even if Archie wanted to, he's not playing 20 minutes a night.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 Ive got an armchair quarterback fix to the problem..............Bobby gets Sam's minutes. It's clear X and Sam just aren't ready for the spotlight. Wehrli has been there, he's low risk, stays within himself and is smart. He also rises above himself once or twice a game with a big/good play. Lest we forget the game last year where he banged in 3 threes. We don't need much, we need a 37 year old Peyton Manning approach. Nothing stupid, stick with what you can do and don't lose the game. If Pollard is worst case scenario and done, I have zero issue with sticking to the 8 man, Steve in the starting 5 and Crosby Darrell and Bobby sporadic minutes off the bench. Its big boy pants time and I think Scooch Dyshawn and Cooke need to be out there 35 minutes,Kyle 30, and Steve 25-28. Small ball has worked before and it can again. This is the problem of no more Jordan Sibert too. No clear cut option. I rewatched Boise State last night. That 3 he hit was a play drawn up specifically to get him that shot off two screens. Thing of freaking beauty. Cooke is a better percentage shooter but no where near Sibert in money time.

You called that one!

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by jack72 You called that one!

Thanks Jack.............just glad we got the win. I wish him the best of luck in the future but i hope Archie parks Sam for the year. Those are Bobby's minutes now. They have to be. Kid is so cerebral. Look what he did for us last year.....

[jack72]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 Thanks Jack.............just glad we got the win. I wish him the best of luck in the future but i hope Archie parks Sam for the year. Those are Bobby's minutes now. They have to be. Kid is so cerebral. Look what he did for us last year.....

I was impatient with Bobby, but Archie, and you, knew he could do it. I hope the hand does not take him out.

[ocdvic]

Originally Posted by priceg75 The problem is Steve is a freaking fouling machine, so even if Archie wanted to, he's not playing 20 minutes a night.

Correct. He's playing 19.1.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by priceg75 The problem is Steve is a freaking fouling machine, so even if Archie wanted to, he's not playing 20 minutes a night.

Originally Posted by ocdvic Correct. He's playing 19.1.

Love it, obsessive compulsive disorder victim!

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[FSUFlyer]

Originally Posted by shocka43 You mean the same HIPPA that Louisville Assistant Athletic Director was bound by while speaking on Kevin Ware's broken leg with Louisville... http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/03/sport/...uisville-ware/

Ware likely gave UL permission to update the fans/media on his condition.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by FSUFlyer Ware likely gave UL permission to update the fans/media on his condition.

A doctor is bound by HIPPA....if my doctor tells me info regarding a patient, I am not bound by HIPPA to keep my mouth shut...he is.

You guys can pass this back and forth all you want...if Archie wanted to come out and discuss Pollard's injury, the extent of it, and exactly what the treatment is...he can. He isn't hiding behind HIPPA, he just isn't discussing it. No problem, but don't state he is bound by the law.

The law states that those bound by HIPPA are: Health plans, providers, clearinghouses, business associates of the former, and contracted persons such as collections, etc. Archie is none of the above.

Do an inline search and tell me if you can find any information regarding college athletes injuries...

If it isn't being discusses for strategic reasons so other teams have to plan accordingly...then you most likely have your answer as to why we don't know the details.

[rollo]

tOSU is talking openly about JaeSean Tate's shoulder injury. UD is choosing to be silent. Shocka, once again, rules!

[priceg75]

Originally Posted by ocdvic correct. He's playing 19.1.

nailed it.

[UDDoug]

Pollard has to give permission to talk. If he has they can say whatever Pollard has authorized. I also doubt the reason they are silent is because Pollard is refusing to allow any release of information.

It is unequivocally a HIPPA violation to release any private health care information without permission. If you know Joe at work had a heart attack because he released HIPPA information to you, you can't tell everyone at work he had one without Joe or his family permission. All you can say is he is out for a while for personal reasons.
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[steve]

Originally Posted by KYFlyer Bobby gives up more points than he can ever score. And I agree that he would be as effective as Peyton Manning playing basketball for us. Which means not. We have a guy who is 15/20 in his last 4 games, a guy averaging 16 points a game, a guy who seemingly can score at will when he touches it in the paint. The problem is not that we don't have options the issue is that we are choosing the wrong options. A 3 off the bounce without working it. A drive into traffic with no kick. A long outlet when it's not there. When this teams works on offense, the options are many and clear cut on every play and we never take bad shots. When we stand around or someone tries to be the 'clear-cut option', we are in trouble. True Team is more than a slogan. It is our offensive and defensive strategy and needs to be followed every minute of every game period.

There's a whole bunch of guys, and a majority, that give up more points than they score.......The key is some of the things these guys do with hustle plays, a steal, a big block, a couple big boards, a big shot or two to break momentum from the opposition and/or continue that very same MO for UD.

BW is NOT some cripple out there playing against KY's front line or WVU...He's certainly going against bigger guys with more skill for the most part but the kid is smart, is a good athlete, and far more mature than most guys..Those tangibles can certainly help him and gets him over the top for the amount of mpg he plays....Now, no way the kid lasts playing 25-30 mpg..What he did for UD last year in the 20 mpg he got playing against 4's and 5's simply CANNOT be measured for what it means now and the benefits he can give you..


Agree with you 100% on the offense.. This is scoochie's team and he best realize that and act like the leader he needs to be after playing 100 games...Maybe it's his personna but he needs to be aggressive, play aggressive, and take the ball to the rack 10-12 times a game..Good things usually happen when he's aggressive..

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by UDDoug Pollard has to give permission to talk. If he has they can say whatever Pollard has authorized. I also doubt the reason they are silent is because Pollard is refusing to allow any release of information. It is unequivocally a HIPPA violation to release any private health are information without permission. If you know Joe at work had a heart attack you can't tell e Eeyore at work he had one with Joe or his family permission. All you. An say is he is out for a while for personal reasons. Posted via Mobile Device

Sorry....NO individual is bound by HIPPA who receives personal medical information unless they fit into categories mentioned above. If you find out at work today that Joe Blow has cancer, high blood pressure, etc...unless you are Human Resources and bound by a confidentiality agreement, you have no duty to keep that information private and if you choose to discuss Joe's stomach condition that you were informed of around the water cooler, there is no local, state, or federal law that prohibits that discussion as you are not one of the listed parties that are prevented from the discussion per HIPPA. I am not saying it is proper, just stating that if I hear through the grapevine about a health condition that a coworker has, I am not bound by ANY law regarding discussion of that employee with others. It may not be proper, but there is NO law preventing that. This is the same reason your local HR gets information from your insurance company with your name, etc redacted and only the costs associated with treatment.

Fire and EMS, doctors, nurses, insurance companies, etc. are prohibited from discussing or releasing records of, private personal health records and information, unless a release was signed by the patient or designee, or are subject to a public records request such as a coroners report, court order signed by a judge, or qualified law enforcement officer ordering hospital records to be released due to requirements listed in state code for an active investigation. If you happen to glance at a clipboard in an ER or office and see someone's personal health information, you are not bound by ANY law unless you fit into a governed class...such as a drug rep that is a business associate of that doctor. But Joe Sick Guy's wife that glances at a clipboard has no legal requirement. However, that medical provider can be on the hook for not protecting the patient's information.

KP is a patient of UD medical staff and doctors. What he discusses with coaches can be passed on by coaches. What he tells his teammates, they can tell whoever they want. The only person on the hook for releasing any medical information to anyone other than the patient themselves is the doctor, physician, nurse, insurance guy/gal, claims representative, medical staff, etc....not anyone who receives the info unless they fit into a prohibited category in the law.

I agree that the reason we haven't heard anything has nothing to do with HIPPA and everything to do with the simple fact they don't want to discuss it for strategic reasons. Keep VCU, URI, and Richmond guessing on the scouting reports and whether or not they have to prepare for Pollard.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[rollo]

My secretary is 7 months pregnant.

Sue me!

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by rollo My secretary is 7 months pregnant. Sue me!

Does the Queen know about this????

"It's good to be the King."

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Figgie123 Does the Queen know about this???? "It's good to be the King."

[Beatty Town Coach]

UDDoug, get a clue; the only reason way Coach Miller is playing word games about Pollard, is for the benefit of NCAA SELECTION COMMITTEE, and maybe to some extent for the next opponents ears.

Gentleman, you must forgive UDDoug, is the season of lent, for he relies heavily on HIPPA to protect his many intellectual shortcomings. Here's a guy still running around demanding that Dyshawn Pierre have his "duke" cutoff. He thinks Jeb will come back to win the nomination. Doug needs HIPPA very badly.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by FlyerNation23 I have seen recent tweets of people saying that Pollard has Avascular Necrosis??

I once dated a girl and just before leaving for a dance her dad pulled me aside and said to be careful because she has acute angina...to which I said, 'If you think that's cute you should see her.....' Ohhh, never mind.

[Sea Bass]

Looks like URI with be without Martin (if he plays it would be a greatly reduced Martin) on Saturday.

http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...martins-season

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by FlyerNation23 I have seen recent tweets of people saying that Pollard has Avascular Necrosis?? Hopefully it is all rumors but would be devastating if true. Lets hope for the best for KP! His health is more important then returning to play this year

From the Mayo Clinic:

"Avascular necrosis is the death of bone tissue due to a lack of blood supply. Also called osteonecrosis, avascular necrosis can lead to tiny breaks in the bone and the bone's eventual collapse.
The blood flow to a section of bone can be interrupted if the bone is fractured or the joint becomes dislocated. Avascular necrosis is also associated with long-term use of high-dose steroid medications and excessive alcohol intake.
Anyone can be affected by avascular necrosis. However, it's most common in people between the ages of 30 and 60. Because of this relatively young age range, avascular necrosis can have significant long-term consequences.


Pollard is a bit young for it.

[Sea Bass]

Avascular Necrosis is generally the product of an injury. No surgical remedy, just have to hope the blood flow re-establishes itself. It's what caused Bo Jackson to have his hip replaced.

My thought has always been along the lines of tendinitis similar to what Martin of URI is suffering.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by Sea Bass Looks like URI with be without Martin (if he plays it would be a greatly reduced Martin) on Saturday. http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...ry=/O7HRgkJNic

Try this:
http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...martins-season

Sounds like Pollard. Martin has played through it, and now may be done.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[IAFlyer]

From NCAA News Archive:

"If a health care professional or paraprofessional such as a certified athletic trainer is a covered entity, HIPAA will prevent the disclosure of private health information to third parties such as conference offices and the media without authorization from the student-athlete. As with a FERPA consent, a HIPAA authorization must be signed and in writing and specify the information to be used or disclosed and the purpose of the use or disclosure. It must specify to whom the information is to be released and the purpose of the request. In addition, unlike FERPA, HIPAA requires that the authorization identify the person authorized to disclose the information and an expiration date or event. In addition, it must state that the student has a right to revoke the authorization and how to do so, and it must include a statement that treatment will not be conditioned on execution of the authorization. Unlike FERPA consents for those enrolled in college, HIPAA authorizations for students who are minors will have to be signed by a parent or guardian."

It would seem to me that Pollard would have to give permission to the doctors to disclose to Archie, et al, but not sure if it binds Archie to the same thing unless it states that the information can only be shared with coaches and not the media? Seems a little vague, to say the least.

[TommyGola]

Bottom line: He is not going to play another game this year. Next year is in doubt.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Bottom line: He is not going to play another game this year. Next year is in doubt.

You know this as fact or is this your speculation based upon everything that is being said?

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by IAFlyer It would seem to me that Pollard would have to give permission to the doctors to disclose to Archie, et al, but not sure if it binds Archie to the same thing unless it states that the information can only be shared with coaches and not the media? Seems a little vague, to say the least.

Exactly....it is the healthcare professionals...not Archie....the healthcare professionals aren't even allowed to talk to Archie or Pollard's mom without consent....it isn't that hard...

[FLYER5]

Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66 I dont understand my own logic....... We won a bunch without Pierre We are struggling w/o KP Therefore KP is a better player then Pierre?!! Really? I just think the close game w/L % are catching up with UD.

Pollard is the player who takes it straight to their guys in the middle when our offense goes cold. Like Achilles, straight to the heart. Auburn had Barkley, we have Kendall. Same type players. Same type impact..
Next in line to pull it down and take it to the hole is.....Kyle, and he won the game being aggressive when no one else could score down the stretch yesterday. Bilikens couldn't make shots down the stretch on their home floor. That's the real story of the ugliest win I've ever seen.
Kendall is more of a facilitator than he gets credit for because he makes everyone around him better..We'll be an easy out in the tourney without him I feel.
His seems to be the only offense that works when defenses tighten down because it's all physical and close in, where he normally beats his man one-on-one. Good things happen when he pulls it down. Hit someone in the mouth and they take notice. Take that away and they become the aggressors. And we become the stalked. Such is life.

[steve]

Originally Posted by FLYER5 Pollard is the player who takes it straight to their guys in the middle when our offense goes cold. Like Achilles, straight to the heart. Auburn had Barkley, we have Kendall. Same type players. Same type impact.. Next in line to pull it down and take it to the hole is.....Kyle, and he won the game being aggressive when no one else could score down the stretch yesterday. Bilikens couldn't make shots down the stretch on their home floor. That's the real story of the ugliest win I've ever seen. Kendall is more of a facilitator than he gets credit for because he makes everyone around him better..We'll be an easy out in the tourney without him I feel. His seems to be the only offense that works when defenses tighten down because it's all physical and close in, where he normally beats his man one-on-one. Good things happen when he pulls it down. Hit someone in the mouth and they take notice. Take that away and they become the aggressors. And we become the stalked. Such is life.

Yep. No coincidence, either, that it was those same very 2 players as freshman that facilitated the come from behind win at St Louis with their toughness and aggression when almost everyone else out on the court was s___t their pants.

KP posting up and/or facing the hoop, taking out a BIG with him,and taking the ball to the hoop creates plenty of space for Pierre to flash in the lane as well as just being able to create and maneuver in space.....Watch DP get the ball now..Guys are waiting on him and double teams come with that....No coincidence that DP has struggled more since KP has been out..

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[Sea Bass]

Originally Posted by rollo My secretary is 7 months pregnant.

Baby Rollo? We need a pic.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Sea Bass Baby Rollo? We need a pic.

OMG....maybe I am the DAD!

[KYFlyer]

Originally Posted by steve What he did for UD last year in the 20 mpg he got playing against 4's and 5's simply CANNOT be measured for what it means now and the benefits he can give you..

Selective bad memory. Wehrli averaged 14 min a game last year and less as the season wore on than earlier in the season.

[UDDoug]

Originally Posted by shocka43 Exactly....it is the healthcare professionals...not Archie....the healthcare professionals aren't even allowed to talk to Archie or Pollard's mom without consent....it isn't that hard...

Shocks there are a lot of corporate attorneys who will disagree with that. IF an employee has HIPPA protected information most attorneys will say they are bound by whatever guidelines the person gave for disclosure. So if they said you can release this to my boss, that doesn't give the boss the right to share it with anyone they want.

That's different than discussing what you hear at the water cooler.

Regardless, as I said initially, HIPPA has absolutely nothing to do with why this isn't being discussed

[Flyer68]

JPP, the NY Giants defensive end who blew up his hand with fireworks last summer, has filed a lawsuit against ESPN for releasing his medical information.

[UDFlyer23]

I base this off nothing but speculation, but I think that Pollard's injury is season ending and Archie isn't releasing any information so our seed in March isn't affected.

If it is announced that Pollard will not play again, the committee will judge us as two teams: with Pollard and without Pollard. The team without Pollard has looked drastically worse and knowing he isn't coming back the committee could ultimately drop us down 2-3 seeds regardless of how we finish.

Maybe there is still a chance he can play in March, but I think Archie is just trying to keep that vague so the team isn't viewed differently by the committee.

[TerryK_67]

"time" gets the committee to the same place. That is, if Kendall does not play clear thru the A10 tournament, then we will be judged as a the team without KP. No announcement needed.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 I base this off nothing but speculation, but I think that Pollard's injury is season ending and Archie isn't releasing any information so our seed in March isn't affected. If it is announced that Pollard will not play again, the committee will judge us as two teams: with Pollard and without Pollard. The team without Pollard has looked drastically worse and knowing he isn't coming back the committee could ultimately drop us down 2-3 seeds regardless of how we finish. Maybe there is still a chance he can play in March, but I think Archie is just trying to keep that vague so the team isn't viewed differently by the committee.

Thank you for at least stating you are purely speculating. It is driving me crazy hearing speculators speculating on speculation but giving the impression that they have more knowledge than the rest of us. I am trying to just think along the lines of if he plays he plays. To some extent it may affect the seed but I think winning these last 3 regular season games can counteract any negative associated with KP not playing.

[pmcmullen]

I kind of get that same impression. I REALLY hope I'm wrong because we clearly are two different teams with and without him, but if I was a gambling man, and I'm not, I'd bet on not seeing him dressed again until next season.

[Jay O'Leary]

Granted that I am a VMD (veterinarian) and not an MD, but avascular necrosis only occurs in a joint area. The only two places I have seen it are in the hip (specifically the ball of the femur) and in the proximal tibia (below the knee joint). There is no medical correction and it always requires surgical repair. My understanding is that Pollard's problem is in the femur and above the knee. If this is truly the location, it is not avascular necrosis.

[CoffeeCan]

If KPs injury was not a huge ongoing concern, AM would issue a more complete update with more specifics. The fact that he hasn't should concern all Flyer fans.

[UDFlyer23]

John Bedell from WHIO just tweeted:

"It's a bone bruise on his femur, not tibia, which makes it unusual. Non-contact/usage injury ... Which is why he needs the rest. When his status changes, we'll let you know."

That should clear a lot of this up, perhaps he really is day-to-day and Archie is just waiting for the go ahead from the doctors that he's had enough rest and can give it a go again.

[priceg75]

Originally Posted by CE80 Thank you for at least stating you are purely speculating. It is driving me crazy hearing speculators speculating on speculation but giving the impression that they have more knowledge than the rest of us. I am trying to just think along the lines of if he plays he plays. To some extent it may affect the seed but I think winning these last 3 regular season games can counteract any negative associated with KP not playing.

Hey man, thanks for speculating on the speculators that are speculating on the speculation.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 John Bedell from WHIO just tweeted: "It's a bone bruise on his femur, not tibia, which makes it unusual. Non-contact/usage injury ... Which is why he needs the rest. When his status changes, we'll let you know." .

I am not a doctor, just a dad who dealt with a kid with what I believe is the same injury this past season.

Took 3+ weeks off in the middle of the season, they thought she was better. Played a couple games and hurting again, but allowed her to finish the season. Now on a complete 4 week shut down of contact and basketball type moves, but doctor and trainers both saying the 4 weeks could become 6, 8, 10 or 12 looking ahead to full recovery for next season.

The comment that was made by Archie a few weeks ago, "he feels ok when playing, it is the next day that he can not move" or whatever the exact words were that Archie used is 100% true with this type of injury from what I observed first hand.

My money is on Kendall playing and being quite productive for us in March

[rollo]

Originally Posted by UDFlyer23 John Bedell from WHIO just tweeted: "It's a bone bruise on his femur, not tibia, which makes it unusual. Non-contact/usage injury ... Which is why he needs the rest. When his status changes, we'll let you know." That should clear a lot of this up, perhaps he really is day-to-day and Archie is just waiting for the go ahead from the doctors that he's had enough rest and can give it a go again.

Is Miller allowed to say that? If 'yes', then why isn't he saying more. If 'no', OOPS!

[FLYER5]

Thanks for the good info, guys!

[UDDoug]

Originally Posted by rollo Is Miller allowed to say that? If 'yes', then why isn't he saying more. If 'no', OOPS!

Even a doctor can say anything about a condition if the patient gives permission. There isn't a blanket prohibition against speaking.

And I'd wager Pollard would have authorized release of anything they wanted to release, even protected health information.

I sincerely doubt the lack of information has anything to do with what can be said, they just don't want to say anything they don't feel they have to. Can't blame them. Let opponents game plan with and without Pollard.

[lhsgolf19]

David Jablonski ‏@DavidPJablonski · 57s57 seconds ago  Dayton, OH

Archie Miller says he expects Kendall Pollard to play again this season. Just not sure when. Hasn't ruled him out for Saturday yet.

[FlyerinChicago]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 David Jablonski ‏@DavidPJablonski · 57s57 seconds ago  Dayton, OH Archie Miller says he expects Kendall Pollard to play again this season. Just not sure when. Hasn't ruled him out for Saturday yet.

I believe the doctors are going to hold out Pollard as long as they possibly can. Archie is likely willing to wait as long as possible as well. If the team can play .500 ball from now through the A10 tourney..Pollard will likely rest. Should we go into a free-fall losing streak, then we could see him playing earlier than is ideal. I think it's the recovery from playing that is the issue here. Another 2-3 weeks of rest may be the best case scenario-as he may only play ONE game when he comes back. It's best that game be in the NCAA tournament. In a perfect world, he's back next week...we shall see.

Win on Saturday boys!

[Flyer 86]

think we got some helpful updated information. I'm of the opinion, and

spec - u - guesstimation that Pollard plays in 2 games , possibly 3.

IMO they are simply being cautious and careful , as you'd want to with your own son and player.

[bhflyer5]

**HIPAA = Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

I was going to let it go, but everyone keeps saying HIPPA. I deal with a sales rep typing out HIPPA daily. It's tough coming here to get away from work and dealing with the same. :P

[CE80]

HIPPA - How Important Pollard Playing Always.

[frisco flyer]

DDN story with new comments from Archie on KP. He sounds hopeful that KP will be back soon, but he is in no rush to throw him on the court. Taking his cues from the medical staff.

http://m.daytondailynews.com/news/sp...lyers-a/nqYDG/
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[Smitty10]

Any reports on the back and neck injuries that Pollard suffered when being bowled over on the bench Tuesday?

[Flyer69ers]

Why does he look so happy on the bench? Doesn't that mean something??
(it does to me)
Always thinking positive . . .

[longtimefan67]

i know it's not even close to the same type of injury; but it seems that the UD medical staff was very conservative with Chris Wright and his broken ankle recovery. I think CW could have played maybe 2-3 games before he finally did play against Ohio St. in the NIT. I hated it at the time but the staff WAS keeping the best interest of the player in mind and his future - fortunately for CW it was the right thing to do. I know we need KP but in my opinion, this kind of forces the team to come together and learn how to win without him - even if ugly like St. Louis. Get well KP, but come back fully healthy.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by Flyer69ers Why does he look so happy on the bench? Doesn't that mean something?? (it does to me) Always thinking positive . . .

I just think he's a happy go lucky dude. Maybe he does know he's coming back soon. UD is a good team without him, a very good team with him. Just pray for the guy.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by CE80 You know this as fact or is this your speculation based upon everything that is being said?

I am basing it on the fact that Kyrie Irving's knee injury seemed similar to this. The Cavs tried resting him to no avail.

[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 i know it's not even close to the same type of injury; but it seems that the UD medical staff was very conservative with Chris Wright and his broken ankle recovery. I think CW could have played maybe 2-3 games before he finally did play against Ohio St. in the NIT. I hated it at the time but the staff WAS keeping the best interest of the player in mind and his future - fortunately for CW it was the right thing to do. I know we need KP but in my opinion, this kind of forces the team to come together and learn how to win without him - even if ugly like St. Louis. Get well KP, but come back fully healthy.

I'm pretty sure his first game back was at Illinois State in the NIT.

[UDFlyer23]

The Most Impactful Injuries in College Basketball This Season

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-season/page/6