Dayton (+4.5) vs. _avier

[BRob2Perryman3]

Early Vegas line, Wow.

[Whacker]

It's perception. Xavier has been hammering teams and Dayton has now coughed up three big leads in a row eking out wins in all three. Of course I'm taking those points!

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Phi Psi Flyer '09]

Is Xavier better than Iowa? Probably. Vegas and the market perceived Iowa at about -2 which I thought was a fair line. I think it should be closer to 3 or 3.5 but I think it's nearly far with a lean towards UD.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Smitty10]

Did they adjust for our home court advantage?

[frisco flyer]

I really don't follow Xavier anymore but based on what I saw in Orlando, I don't think they are better than Iowa.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[College B-Ball Fan]

Dayton fans support Dayton athletics! Period! Naturally we could be more supportive on some levels but what we're reading is no surprise to UD and it's fans!

Crowds growing each year along with "average" attendance for Coach Jabir and his women's basketball team. Needless to say, attendance should be better given how incredibly well he and the team has done over the years---but it is getting better!

Huge crowds (thousands) often jam the Fredrick's Center for UD v-ball games against the likes of St. Louis etc. and;

Baujan can be a hornets nest for mens/men's soccer games, especially if the weather is amenable and it's a Friday evening OR a Sunday afternoon on campus!

No surprises here at all, I've been traveling for 20+ years with the Flyers hoops teams and whether it's Maui in 2000, the NCAA's in Buffalo etc. just to name a few, we always come in droves and often are the loudest and most prominent & always wearing RED!

I know that we've had a lot of NCAA success etc. in Men's hoops over the past 2+ years etc. & our incredibly supportive and well traveled fans are on some levels finally being noticed but this is nothing new as anyone whose traveled over the years or listened to the away hoops games knows!

I love being a UD sports fan and always meet great UD fans from all over the place when I travel! Always fun!

[FlyerGuyer]

“We’re nowhere near being ready to play with them right now,” Miller said Friday. “We’ve got to get a lot better and get a game plan. They’re terrific on offense. They have experienced inside guys who manhandled their opponents on the glass the last couple times I’ve watched them play.”

Archie calls 'em like he sees 'em...

[BRob2Perryman3]

Dayton now +3.5

[Buster Goode]

+4.5? lol
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[DGO67]

The betting line merely reflects movement of money. Movement of money reflects perception of reality and historical bias. The next time you hear someone say "This game is a lock!" run fast and far from that someone.
There is no such thing as a lock...unless the game is fixed and you're on the inside.

[UD62]

Flyers currently +2.5

[Bill202]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer Not exactly a vote of confidence from Coach Archie, but I appreciate his honesty I guess haha: “We’re nowhere near being ready to play with them right now,” Miller said Friday. “We’ve got to get a lot better and get a game plan. They’re terrific on offense. They have experienced inside guys who manhandled their opponents on the glass the last couple times I’ve watched them play.” http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/new...t-to-da/npX2w/

What else would you expect Archie to say??? He will have the team ready and I expect a very good game. Beat Xavier

[ruechalgrin]

Kenpom has UD with 36% chance to win; predicted score them 75:71 UD. Sagarin has us favored by .5 with UD #24 and them 25.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer Not exactly a vote of confidence from Coach Archie, but I appreciate his honesty I guess haha: “We’re nowhere near being ready to play with them right now,” Miller said Friday. “We’ve got to get a lot better and get a game plan. They’re terrific on offense. They have experienced inside guys who manhandled their opponents on the glass the last couple times I’ve watched them play.” http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/new...t-to-da/npX2w/

I believe that's called "sandbagging". Some truth there, but he's also letting his team know they're nowhere near as good as they need to be, and that he's not afraid to state that publicly. He'll have them as ready for this game as he can.
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[ud2]

Vegasinsider.com showing the game opening at UD +2, with the odds currently at UD +2.5.


http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-...dds/las-vegas/

[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 I believe that's called "sandbagging". Some truth there, but he's also letting his team know they're nowhere near as good as they need to be, and that he's not afraid to state that publicly. He'll have them as ready for this game as he can. Posted via Mobile Device

That's one thing I love about Archie: Very little BS. Straightforward. Few excuses. Of course he'll have them as ready as he can: This is a championship game on national TV. Archie has already displayed that he is a good (maybe great) tournament coach.

He's being honest, because, as much as some people don't want to hear it, Dayton will have to play better than we did vs. Iowa and Monmouth (and Bill & Mary, for that matter) to win this game. Lots of freshman on the roster. No Pierre. It has nothing to do with some "inferiority" complex; it has to do with Xavier objectively throttling opponents this season. Smoked Michigan in Ann Arbor. They were up by, what, almost 30 points on USC in the second half until they called off the dogs? USC already beat Monmouth this season.

I have no doubt the Flyers will be ready and will put up a fight. I suspect we will see fewer substitutions in this particular game as well (barring foul trouble). Will it be enough to take the title? That's why they play the game. I will be very proud of this trueteam if we walk away with the crown...

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[UDGutter2]

There is one player on the team who knows the Dayton y rivalry, and that is Mikesell, but as a fan. Hopefully he put a stake through their hearts with a big game. Go Flyers.

[PalmBeachFlyer]

Treat Winners like Losers and Winners like losers...

[PURPLE REIGN]

Run, don't walk to your bookie and put $$$$ on the Flyers. UD wins.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by PURPLE REIGN Run, don't walk to your bookie and put $$$$ on the Flyers. UD wins.

OK. My family's Christmas is riding on this since my company doesn't give out year end bonuses any more. I just put a down payment on a pool.

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by CE80 OK. My family's Christmas is riding on this since my company doesn't give out year end bonuses any more. I just put a down payment on a pool.

You don't like the Jelly of the Month club?

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by Figgie123 You don't like the Jelly of the Month club?

Not sure why i find this funny but i do. Guess because it came from the resident number cruncher

[CE80]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 Not sure why i find this funny but i do. Guess because it came from the resident number cruncher

Figgie is so much more than a numbers cruncher. Everything he posts is worth reading.

[DGO67]

How did a UD/X betting thread morph into Figgie adoration...don't we already have a king?

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Wow, Figgie has brains and a sense of humor.

Tell me Figgie is really a sexy blonde female with long legs and I may fall (more) in love.

[FlyerGuyer]

“We’re nowhere near being ready to play with them right now,” Miller said Friday. “We’ve got to get a lot better and get a game plan. They’re terrific on offense. They have experienced inside guys who manhandled their opponents on the glass the last couple times I’ve watched them play.”

Whoops didn't mean to edit my post up thread, but Archie did indeed call it...