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Paul has tried to go 1 on 2 or 3 twice thus far. One resulted in a bad shot the other was a charge, he looks completely off.
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I didn't think the defense was set on that alleged charge. If anything it should have been contact with no call.
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No way we even compete in this game with LW and CL playing as poor as they are. Poor decision making by both. Who's going to step up?
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Someone needs to get in the teams face and fire them up. The energy is there, but not focused. The shooting isn't horrible, but not great either. And if Creighton can keep up this shooting all game, I'd be more than impressed.
The refs calling the game aren't helping, but they aren't deciding it either....yet.
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I Honestly dont think our defense is defending the permiter that poorly, i would say half of the 8 shots they made had hands in their faces. These guys just dont miss
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Tough to beat a team that shoots 8-14 from 3-point range in the first half.
WOW.
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Too many liabilities on the floor.
You can't be successful when you aren't disciplined in the halfcourt. It isn't that big of a deal if you are missing good shots, it happens. But when you miss bad shots, you need not be on the floor.
We'll be alright in the second half with adjustments. But they have to say under control. One person playing out of control screws everyone.
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Refs aren't good but we are not getting homered.
When the other team makes more 3s than 2s your perimeter defense is not good.
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They're matching us in rebounding ... plus we've turned it over 9 times ... plus they can shoot. Bad recipe for a victory for us tonight.
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thank God the WHIO feed is grainy & jumpy. At least I can imagine were moving around with energy. Eh? Well I think we'll do better in second half. But can we overcome 13 points and homers?
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It just takes one guy off the page and a good team will expose you.
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We are seeing a team playing our game except with better fundamentals and better execution.
13 for 28 from three vs St Joes last week. What's happening tonight should not be a surprise from long range.
We have a long way to come back.
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Ridiculous leave the guy who has killed you and then MJ throws it to London and creates the travel.....ugh
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i know its half but please update the score, this is the only site my computer will work on
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woodfox reminds me of Goldwire ... very stupid defense on him, you have to make him put it on the floor.
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Now signs of being out hustled are being shown. They are getting after every ball.
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Offensive rebound off a free throw. Will the real Dayton Flyers please make an appearance...
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Originally Posted by ChicagoFlyer
i know its half but please update the score, this is the only site my computer will work on
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Flat out getting outhustled. End of story.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoFlyer
i know its half but please update the score, this is the only site my computer will work on
go flyers
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Well this could get very ugly
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What can you say....
We are getting killed. I really cannot think of a single thing we are doing well tonight.... We are getting schooled in every aspect of the game.... Hard to believe that we are 8-0 coming in.... Maybe we should actually consider defending the three?
Here is the deal, we cannot shoot threes, they are hitting every one. Hard not to be extremely frustrated if you are a Flyer fan.
If there was ever a game when we needed B-Rob, this is it. Now down by 21. Wow.... I do not know what to think.... How can we stink this bad tonight?
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Our "most athletic team ever" is being out hustled in EVERY aspect. KH belongs on the bench, period. He's way too slow for a 4-guard team. Oh, and BG is being seriously out-coached. Not because of anything Altman is doing, but because BG obviously can't get a message across to his players.
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Flyers are getting taken to the woodshed, withthe listless effort on defense I guess it may be a good thing.
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"There Will Be Blood". My title for ths board for the next 48 hours.
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Why isn't DS playing? Because he botched one layup? KH...you are a sub at best.
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Too much watching and reacting .... not enough proactive creation.
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So you're calling for procreation? I think they call that play "the Sean Kemp."
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To me its the little things that are not getting done. No boxing out on the free throws. I am not sure why they are letting guys catch and shoot. YOu have to make them put the ball on the floor.
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Dayton will make a run at them.....hope we haven't dug to large of a hole.
Can we please see Luke tonight?
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Why in the hell would you throw a bounce pounce to the post from the top of the key?
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Originally Posted by Canonball
Flat out getting outhustled. End of story.
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Yeah and fundamentals. You can't expect to win playing this sloppy.
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wow, way to come out ready to play in the second half. our offense is abysmal, has been all year, but tonight our defense is equally bad. how can the same guys get open for threes over and over again? so aggravating. our pg play is not good enough to take us anywhere this year.
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Creighton just looks better coached than we are. They move the ball well and have nailed us several times on back screens. Our offense is beyone anemic. Not impressed with the adjustments that BG has/ hasn't made.
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At least the hustle showed back up after the timeout.
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4-0 run. Next 4 possessions TO, Missed Dunk, Bad Shot, Bad Shot from 3 (bailed out by o rebound).
Is there a shoot yourself in the foot icon?
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Originally Posted by Flyer1407
Dayton will make a run at them.....hope we haven't dug to large of a hole.
Can we please see Luke tonight?
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Good point. Where is Luke? We need 3's and he's one of our "shooters". Did he hurt himself or something?
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by the way, where the heck is luke?
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Sitting next to the walk-ons....we don't need shooters tonight anyway....
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Booker Woodfox is now 12 for his last 15 from three point.
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Chris Wright is a 50 something % free throw shooter this season, that is frustrating.
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Anyone know why we don't trap at all when we "press." If we're looking to create possesions, wouldn't you WANT to trap in the backcourt?
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I definately do not think we are getting out hustled.
We are just playing out of control, taking dumb shots, and over defending at times on defense.
Combine that with Creighton making 66% of threes, and us only making a few, and you are down by by 16 with 15 minutes to play.
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Sitting next to the walk-ons....we don't need shooters tonight anyway....
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i wish we could borrow a couple of theirs
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We keep getting stops but keep having empty possessions on offense.
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Can't shoot 3's...why shoot them.
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How long has Creighton been stuck on 47? And we've only cut into the lead by what 6?
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I'd love to see a time of possession stat. We're playing a lot of defense and look like a run-and-shoot offense.
I'd like to have Luke's shooting on the floor, but I'm afraid his D may turn into a Creighton lay-up drill.
The referees aren't homering, they're just bad.
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Horrible travel call, Mickey barely had the ball. How about an over the back as well being called?
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Thank God KH is out of there!
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and i turned this game off. not worth watching
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Charles has given us zip tonight.
2 possessions for Creighton and the little run we made is wiped away.
Most athletic Dayton team ever. Maybe the worst shooting Dayton team ever.
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Charge or no-call on all penetration. Nothing else is being call. No body contact on Marcus's drive?
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This is not the performance we needed on the road
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CL - Yuck
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Seeing how bad some of these guys are offensively tonight!
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Out worked
The Jays just want it more tonight.... The Flyers just look slow and inept tonight. We will be doing well to keep this loss under 20.... Bummer. This could have really been the game that established the Flyers as a true top 25 team.... Not to be.... Maybe we will recover and focus and finish strong, but this is UGLY, UGLY, UGLY....
I think this goes to show what happens when you do not have a good offense. A great defense works most of the times, but once in a while, you need to be able to score some points. We are not there yet.... Watching tonight, who would you even expect to step up? EVERYBODY looks lost....
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i have to say, i am really disappointed by mj so far this year. the way he played at the end of last year, i thought this year he was going to break out. hasn't happened at all so far. we need another consistent scorer, and he has to be the man.
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Seriously guys....how hard is it to use the backboard??!?!? We miss a ton of layups that we just try to lob in.
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We've got one more run left in us, lets make it a good one, I dont see creighton keeping this 3 point shooting up.
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Creighton is looking a little fatigued on D. They may be 11 deep, but how many times have they been attached like we do?
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12-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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LW with a pair
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12-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GlassCityFlyer
time to start drinking
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You mean you haven't started yet?
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12-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Wings In Stripes
We've got one more run left in us, lets make it a good one, I dont see creighton keeping this 3 point shooting up.
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That's just it, they have cooled off we just can't score.
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12-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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at least they havent quit playing hard. that 8-0 run to start the second half was a killer.
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12-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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These refs hate Kurt...
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12-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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Traveling
Wow, have you ever seen a crew call so many traveling calls? These guys must not be NBA refs.... LOL!!
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12-10-2008, 09:37 PM
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I hate to be Captain Obvious, but if we had any reliable offense what so ever, we'd be a Sweet 16 team, because teams just wont shoot the ball like creighton did tonight.
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12-10-2008, 09:37 PM
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We need a "shooter" in a bad way!
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12-10-2008, 09:37 PM
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How many times have we fouled with less than 10 on the shot clock?
This is ridiculous, Creighton is not that good we are that bad tonight.
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12-10-2008, 09:38 PM
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What is MJs deal? Why would you dribble to there and pick it up?
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12-10-2008, 09:38 PM
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Kurt is just about worthless. Let's play KS the rest of the season as we can't do much worse.
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12-10-2008, 09:38 PM
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do they give CW a shooting foul or say the foul was before a travel? HaHa
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12-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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CW's bad ft shooting tonight is frustrating
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12-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VirgM
Kurt is just about worthless. Let's play KS the rest of the season as we can't do much worse.
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Who is KS?
CW is not a good free throw shooter this year.
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12-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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Man when it goes bad it goes real bad. We cannot buy an "and 1".
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12-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyer1407
How many times have we fouled with less than 10 on the shot clock?
This is ridiculous, Creighton is not that good we are that bad tonight.
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Thats what sucks so much about this game, people are gonna look at the score and say "dayton was a fraud" but in a reality we just ran into a team shooting the lights out and played our worst game of the year. that combo is a loss almost every time.
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12-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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does whio-tv ever have a good video feed for a game? my pic goes black every 30 seconds or so.
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12-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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Say it...barnburner.
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12-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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Mickey Perry is the lone bright spot tonight.
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