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Old 01-14-2020, 10:44 PM
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2023 Recruiting Thread

Centerville Freshman Guard, Gabe Cupps invited to sit behind the bench tonight. Gabe can flat-out play and starts for the Centerville varsity team. He’s all over You Tube, check him out.
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My 25 year old son said over the holidays that AG should offer him now. The kid is a gym-rat.

Would he start if his dad weren't the head coach? YES!
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Gabe played AAU with Lebrons kid and there’s a video of LeBron and Gabe having a little 3 pt shooting contest. Kid can really shoot the rock.
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I reffed a couple of his games...love the dad...kid is tough...but has to grow before I'd make an offer.
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Gabe's dad Brook played at Capital for Damon Goodwin and still holds the all time assist record at Capital. Dad seems like a great guy from my dealings with him when he was at Graham and we both were involved in Dayton Metro youth ball. Lets hope the apple does not fall far from the tree

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Let hope he gets taller!
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Let hope he gets taller!
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I'll bite. How tall is he? Does he have to look up to see the dinner table? Does he need a special step to reach the hooks in his locker? Do all the girls bend down to kiss him?
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He’s listed on the C’ville GWOCSports.com roster as 6’1” ... which makes me 6’5”.
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... which makes me 6’5”.
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With your crown and high heels on, probably.

Height has not slowed down 5'9" 160 lb. Jacob Gilyard at Richmond. While a few more inches would be nice, I would not let it keep us from offering this kid based on early reviews of his game. Building a program with local studs is a great thing. Go back and read the Chris Wright articles about staying home and others who followed from last week when he was inducted into the UD Hall Of Fame.
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In terms of hype/prospect status, how does Cupps compare to a 14/15 year old Luke Kennard? If he were that level of player, you get in as early as possible even if you gamble a bit with projection.
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How tall was Obi as a high school freshman?
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Duquesne is playing well this year. Tavian-Dunn Martin is listed as 5’8” and leads the Dukes in 3 pt shots made. I’m fine with an undersized shooting guard if he gets results.
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With your crown and high heels on, probably.

Height has not slowed down 5'9" 160 lb. Jacob Gilyard at Richmond. While a few more inches would be nice, I would not let it keep us from offering this kid based on early reviews of his game. Building a program with local studs is a great thing. Go back and read the Chris Wright articles about staying home and others who followed from last week when he was inducted into the UD Hall Of Fame.
As someone who has met Gilyard, I can tell you, he is 5'6 at best.
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He’s listed on the C’ville GWOCSports.com roster as 6’1” ... which makes me 6’5”.
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How tall was Obi as a high school freshman?
Grant is quoted in this article as being 6'7 when he enrolled.


https://collegebasketball.nbcsports....roved-players/
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To me this is the sort of player that's a HUGE wildcard. He could turn out to be a DI shooting and scoring stud, and I would not be at all surprised if that happened. He could also turn into a DIII shooting guard. And I would not be at all surprised.
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How tall was Obi as a high school freshman?
Anyone know?
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Many reports list him as being 6'-2" as a HS junior, growing to 6'5" by the end of his senior year, and 6'7" after a year of prep school and entering UD.


Based upon the things I hear from people I know who follow centerville basketball and are somewhat connected, Gavin Cupp won't be a D3 player, he'll find a scholarship to a D1 roster for sure.
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I’m not sure how tall Obi was as a freshman, but I can confirm that Gabe Cupps is 6’1. My son and Gabe are friends and I see him on a fairly regular basis. Remember, he’s 15 years old and a freshman in high school, he’ll get bigger and stronger.

As Rollo mentioned in a previous post, the kid is tough. He has a dedicated, disciplined work ethic that is unmatched. I’m glad our coaching staff is already looking at him as a potential UD recruit.
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I officiated a game yesterday and my partner is also a basketball coach at Springboro, who played Centerville on Friday night. I asked my partner how Cupps played and he just said 'horrible. He doesn't make stupid mistakes, but he played horrible.' Then I told him about the discussion here about how UD should offer him now and he just laughed and commented on how small he is. So let's let the kid develop a bit before handing him the keys to the Campus before he even has keys to the family truckster.
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I hath always prided thyself for being open-minded at all times, and this is just another example.

So yesterday I was asked to sub in the Heatherwoode men's golf league...and I accepted. I suck at golf, but love playing.

Anyway...out of nowhere, and much to his pleasure, I get paired with Sir Monster Man! After bowing, offerings and much deserved praises of my Royalty, we got down to business of golf and basketball.

Sir MM convinced me that the Cupps kid has not only developed physically, but is an absolute basketball junkie who is 100% ready for UD hoops. Sir MMs son plays for C'ville and it was obvious from his enthusiastic endorsement of Cupps' skills that this kid has abilities (round-house dunks) and qualities (leadership and win-at-all-costs) I haven't seen and which will hopefully earn him an offer to be a future Flyer.

Besides being his King, who am I to doubt Sir MM's assessments? And for that reason and out of respect to a highly regarded member of the Royal Roundtable, I am now open to UD making this young man an offer.

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For the royal record, The King does not suck at golf. Like most everyone else, including myself, lack of consistency is the main issue.
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4 pars, 4 doubles and 4 lost balls is pretty consistent.
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4 pars, 4 double whiskey's and 4 balls lost.... well I'm not going to go into what you and MM were doing in the woods
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"2023 Recruiting Thread" must be somewhere else . . .

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"2023 Recruiting Thread" must be somewhere else . . .

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Wayne's Lawrent Rice visiting UD tomorrow

Will he finally get his offer? (was offered by OSU yesterday)
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Wayne's Lawrent Rice visiting UD tomorrow

Will he finally get his offer? (was offered by OSU yesterday)
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47% 3 pt shooting? How fast can he suit up?
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47% 3 pt shooting? How fast can he suit up?
I never put much stock in high school stat lines as often things are missed, or dare I say glorified a bit for recruiting purposes. But if this kids stats are anywhere near true sign him up now. I like the 2.5 /1 assist to turn over ratio, especially since the kid has just completed his sophomore season.
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I never put much stock in high school stat lines as often things are missed, or dare I say glorified a bit for recruiting purposes. But if this kids stats are anywhere near true sign him up now. I like the 2.5 /1 assist to turn over ratio, especially since the kid has just completed his sophomore season.

I've seen rims at the HS level be a "bit" softer than the college level. Plus, it's harder to shoot over a guy 6'7" up in your face than a guy 5'11".
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I've seen rims at the HS level be a "bit" softer than the college level. Plus, it's harder to shoot over a guy 6'7" up in your face than a guy 5'11".

Yeah . . . we should probably steer clear of high school kids.

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Yeah . . . we should probably steer clear of high school kids.

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take all stats, for every high school player
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Did we suddenly become part of a power 5 conference? You have to love Grant. If you don't ask, they can't say yes.......
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Yes, I couldn't believe what McKinley Wright said when Archie Miller was recruiting him. Correct if I'm wrong but wasn't it something like UD wasn't worthy enough for him to play there?
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Yes, I couldn't believe what McKinley Wright said when Archie Miller was recruiting him. Correct if I'm wrong but wasn't it something like UD wasn't worthy enough for him to play there?
Thought that was Cohill but I could be wrong.
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Did we suddenly become part of a power 5 conference? You have to love Grant. If you don't ask, they can't say yes.......
i mean i dont think this is unique to just grant. i'm sure purnell/gregory and we know for sure archie aimed high.

believe it was mentioned in an article after archie had left, jablo of DDN had an interview with archies dad...believe his dad mentioned one of the reasons archie left was because those big time players just wouldn't come.

the difference with grant imo is he has the obi effect. hes gotta strike while hot, if he can get some of these players to rise in NBA mocks and they have a few runs in the tourney we'll continue to have legit shots at getting a 5 star here and there.

missing out on last years tourney with our squad was HUGE imo. the amount of publicity the school would have got, especially if we made it to the final 4, is something we can't make up.
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I thought I read somewhere that Archie didn't go after the "big" players because he didn't think they would come. I don't think the players said those things.
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Thought that was Cohill but I could be wrong.
Yes, I think you are right! Regardless who it was Archie didn't offer because he didn't think they would come. If Anthony Grant thinks a player is a perfect fit for the Flyers he goes after them no matter how many stars they have!
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I thought I read somewhere that Archie didn't go after the "big" players because he didn't think they would come. I don't think the players said those things.
I remember hearing that as well, but I can’t remember the source.
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I always thought Archie's biggest weakness was recruiting . . .and Anthony Grant and the time at IU confirm my opinion.
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Centerville PG, Gabe Cupps has received an offer from our Dayton Flyers. 1st team All State as a Sophomore on a state championship team. The Elks will be even better this year with an excellent chance of winning back to back championships.
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It was Peguero’s 1st D1 Offer… Greer trying to find a gem
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Is Peguero class of 22 or 23? I've seen both.
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I wonder if the kid started out at the Marianist high school in San Juan, before heading Jersey?
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Another new offer

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6'10" Big In-State Kid Austin Parks out of St. Mary's (already has an OSU offer)
Mark Ashman's alma mater. Short drive from Ryan Mikesell's high school.

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Clemson, Cincinnati and Tulane also offered Gabe Cupps...Dayton, OSU, UC, and X all offered.

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Another big offer

6’4” Top 100 SG Maki Johnson who plays for Huntington Prep

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Biggest offer so far IMO, definite longshot

6'4" 5 Star SF Rayvon Griffith out of Cincinnati Taft

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All these offers for high level 2023 recruits is interesting.

Here is something to consider: Perhaps AG knows he will have a very solid team next year…a team that can get to the second weekend of NCAA tournament and compete for an elite 8 spot. If that happens, many of these top 100 prospects would take a second look right about the time they are limiting their schools to a handful of choices.
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All these offers for high level 2023 recruits is interesting.

Here is something to consider: Perhaps AG knows he will have a very solid team next year…a team that can get to the second weekend of NCAA tournament and compete for an elite 8 spot. If that happens, many of these top 100 prospects would take a second look right about the time they are limiting their schools to a handful of choices.
I think it much more simple than that. We have zero scholarships for 2022 and only two for 2023 (assuming Camara is drafted after this year). When your team is full of freshmen (eligibility-wise) why not swing for the fences?
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I think it much more simple than that. We have zero scholarships for 2022 and only two for 2023 (assuming Camara is drafted after this year). When your team is full of freshmen (eligibility-wise) why not swing for the fences?
I think it is even simpler than that. I think AG goes after guys he likes and thinks will fit his system, regardless of ranking.
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I think it is even simpler than that. I think AG goes after guys he likes and thinks will fit his system, regardless of ranking.
Maybe simpler then that - he knows Alumni and Local businesses will be able to pay the players the rates they will be looking for. The pay to players - will be a boon for schools that can get money to the players. So schools with Alumni both very passionate about Basketball and with deep pockets are set to get the best players going forward. Essentially we are back to how things were in the 50's - and that worked out pretty well for us then.
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Podcast: Very insightful on your part. That is a new variable in the equation that we did not have before...at least not at UD. UK, Duke, and NC...that is a different story.
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Video on Dylan James. Watch him handle the ball coast to coast! Nice three-ball and good stroke at the line. Finally, at the 2:45 mark in the video, check out his defense in the back court...very impressive.

They also mentioned in the video he is a 4.0 student.

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James has really good hops and timing on the jump. Long arms doesn't hurt either.

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Same AAU team (All-Ohio Red) as Wayne PG Lawrent Rice. The team appears to be pretty good and full of future college talent.
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Gabe Cupps is blowing up, got an offer from Michigan today. He can’t go there!
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New Offer

6'4" Finnish PG Miro Little

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I am honored to get an offer from @DaytonMBB It was pleasure meeting @CoachGrantUD and Coach Greer. #basketball #recruit #Classof2023

Indiana and Wake Forest have offered him in the last week

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A great day for the #Buckethood!

2023 Logan Beaston (@loganbeaston31) was visited by Toledo and Coach Offutt (@WalterOffutt) this afternoon.

2023 Austin Parks (@AustinParks2023) visited Dayton, @CoachDHertz and staff. Parks holds a UD offer.

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OSU, Indiana, Mich St, Illinois, Cincy, West Virginia have all offered Austin Parks. Described as a still raw big man, 6-9 240ish, solid frame.
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