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A-10 Tournament Thread. Pittsburgh, Mar 8-12

All things A-10 Tournament. Post your matchup thoughts, league award predictions, bracket predictions and anything else pertaining to Pittsburgh.


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Not quite as excited as I was as I fear we are now locked into the 8-9 game regardless of what we do in Pitt. I see us as an 8 seed if we will the A10 tournament and a 9 otherwise.
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The 1 seed gets us Davidson (likely) and then RI or Bonnie? Sheesh, nice reward.
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Not quite as excited as I was as I fear we are now locked into the 8-9 game regardless of what we do in Pitt. I see us as an 8 seed if we will the A10 tournament and a 9 otherwise.
Lose Friday and we can get into a 7-10 game!!!!!!!!!!
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The 1 seed gets us Davidson (likely) and then RI or Bonnie? Sheesh, nice reward.
Well at least GW is on the other side of the bracket...
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Well at least GW is on the other side of the bracket...

True, but I think we smoke them on a neutral court. Everything went wrong tonight and we still almost beat them.

Rhode Island is playing for an NCAA tournament berth and a win over Dayton would probably do it. Plus we would have to beat them three times in a season. Bonnie was kind of my A 10 tournament sleeper, but after seeing their draw I'm hoping not.
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Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer View Post
True, but I think we smoke them on a neutral court. Everything went wrong tonight and we still almost beat them.

Rhode Island is playing for an NCAA tournament berth and a win over Dayton would probably do it. Plus we would have to beat them three times in a season. Bonnie was kind of my A 10 tournament sleeper, but after seeing their draw I'm hoping not.
I agree with the GW thing but I'm just frustrated with tonight's game and that's the way its making me feel right now. URI is the team that scares me most.
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What is our record at PPG Paints Arena (formerly Consol Center)?

I know we play Duquesne there but not always.
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Win the tourney. It is not a nothing, it is a big thing.

Win more than 20 games
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All of the teams in our bracket scare me. I am afraid of Rhode Island because of their athleticism. I have afraid of the other teams because they shoot the three-ball. If we defend like we did tonight, we are one and done. That was one horrible defensive effort.
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Win the A-10 Tournament and i GUARANTEE we are at worst a 7 at best a 6.
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Win the A-10 Tournament and i GUARANTEE we are at worst a 7 at best a 6.
This. Outright regular season champs, tourney champs, only 6 losses? We'd have at least one, maybe two more top 50 RPI wins... no way is that an 8/9 profile. Vandy winning helps us, Rhody's resurgence helps us too.

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So here's my shot;

Player of the Year: T.J Cline Richmond
Coach of the Year: Archie Miller Dayton
Newcomer of the Year: Da'Monte Buckingham Richmond
Most Improved Player: Marquise Moore George Mason
Defensive Player of the Year: Charles Cooke Dayton

First Team:
T.J Cline Richmond
Jaylen Adams St. Bonaventure
JeQuan Lewis VCU
Charles Cooke Dayton
Scoochie Smith Dayton

Second Team:
Kendall Pollard Dayton
Hassan Martin URI
Marquis Moore GM
Tyler Cavanaugh GW
Jack Gibbs Davidson

Third Team:
Peyton Aldridge Davidson
Matt Mobley SBU
Joseph Chartouny Fordham
Donte Clark UMass
E.C Matthews URI

All-Defensive:
Charle Cooke Dayton
Kyle Davis Dayton
Hassan Martin URI
Joseph Chartouny Fordham
Mo-Allie Cox VCU


Wednesday
UMass over St. Joe's
SLU over Duquesne

Thursday
Davidson over LaSalle
SBU over UMass
SLU over GW
Fordham over GM

Friday
Dayton over Davidson
URI over SBU
Richmond over SLU
VCU over Fordham

Saturday
Dayton over URI
Richmond over VCU

Sunday
Dayton over Richmond

Dayton #6 seed
VCU #10 seed
Rhode Island #11 Play-in game
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VCU has to be the favorite.

According to kenpom, Dayton needs to beat the #4 best team in the A-10 Davidson, then the #3 best team Rhode Island to reach the finals.

VCU has to beat the #7 best team in George Mason and then the #5 best team Richmond to reach the finals.

Even if Dayton gets there, they have to beat 2 really good teams whereas VCU has to be two average teams. So Dayton will be tired.

Draw is everything in the A-10 and NCAA Tournaments. Unfortunately, Dayton's draw is really bad. Let's hope the opposite happens for the NCCAA Tournament!
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Will be there Fri as well. No use crying about A10 draw. Winning or losing vs GW would not have mattered. We've won 9 of 10 and our boys sunk all of themselves into VCU game to win regular season outright. That's what we all wanted! On to Pittsburgh...and beyond!!

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VCU has to be the favorite.

According to kenpom, Dayton needs to beat the #4 best team in the A-10 Davidson, then the #3 best team Rhode Island to reach the finals.

VCU has to beat the #7 best team in George Mason and then the #5 best team Richmond to reach the finals.

Even if Dayton gets there, they have to beat 2 really good teams whereas VCU has to be two average teams. So Dayton will be tired.

Draw is everything in the A-10 and NCAA Tournaments. Unfortunately, Dayton's draw is really bad. Let's hope the opposite happens for the NCCAA Tournament!
Why in the world will Dayton be more tired? Doesn't VCU have to play 40 minute games? I don't buy that for a minute. These teams, except for the bottom 4, are all dangerous and if you don't come to play you will get beat.
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And the thing we have been told over and over again about these seniors is their amazing mental toughness. If that really is true about them, which I like to think is, then I like our chances playing three days in a row.
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Anybody know if the games will be streamed on the internet? The UD site just shows "listen" but no watch link. Can't believe I won't be able to watch the game out here on the west coast. That's one of the reasons I retired, so I could watch all the Flyers' games - especially tournament games.

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Here's the way I look at it: if we don't have what it take to win the A10, we are probably not good enough to make it out of the first weekend of the NCAAT. In that case, who cares about seeding.

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Here's the link to the A10 tournament game/TV schedule:
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Here's the way I look at it: if we don't have what it take to win the A10, we are probably not good enough to make it out of the first weekend of the NCAAT. In that case, who cares about seeding.

I'm going to relax and enjoy whatever comes.
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Anybody know if the games will be streamed on the internet? The UD site just shows "listen" but no watch link. Can't believe I won't be able to watch the game out here on the west coast. That's one of the reasons I retired, so I could watch all the Flyers' games - especially tournament games.

And by the way, HUGE SHOUTOUT to the women's championship season! I know there is a women's forum, but this is a great achievement to be cheered by all UD basketball fans.

Kelly Austria is a goddess in my book.
I second that SHOUTOUT! What a great story. Coach quits in September. Bring in new coach, struggle mightily out of the gate. Lose first A-10 game. Ship looks like it is sinking. Future of the program is in jeopardy! Then BAM! Win A-10 regular season and Tournament - handily none-the-less.

I have two daughters that play basketball. When we watch a UD game I tell them to keep their eyes on Kelley Austria and memorize how she plays the game and try to repeat it.
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Anybody know if the games will be streamed on the internet? The UD site just shows "listen" but no watch link. Can't believe I won't be able to watch the game out here on the west coast. That's one of the reasons I retired, so I could watch all the Flyers' games - especially tournament games.

And by the way, HUGE SHOUTOUT to the women's championship season! I know there is a women's forum, but this is a great achievement to be cheered by all UD basketball fans.

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NBCSN will broadcast Dayton's first game, CBSSN their potential second game and CBS the Champ game. All 3 are national networks and not subject to Regional coverage.
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VCU advertising in Pittsburgh. Saw this on Jablonski's twitter
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VCU advertising in Pittsburgh. Saw this on Jablonski's twitter
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Many of the other schools also hand out free swag to the kids from local schools that come to the Wednesday and Thursday games. Obviously the kids that get the free swag make a bunch of noise for that said team.

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Many of the other schools also hand out free swag to the kids from local schools that come to the Wednesday and Thursday games. Obviously the kids that get the free swag make a bunch of noise for that said team.

They said "take over Pittsburgh" Lol...if they only knew...
Oh I think they know and this is their preemptive strike.
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They're trying to capitalize on the fact Pittsburgh is the city of black and gold -- Steelers, Pirates and Penguins. VCU's colors, of course.
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We should be in the NCAA tournament, but I'm not counting anything for certain until I see our name called on Sunday evening. This playing for a certain seed is funny though. Here's a good idea - play to win the games. Right Herm?
Archie commented on his radio show tonight about being nervous until your name is called on Selection Sunday. He reflected on 2 years ago when the team had a viewing party and was all confident and loose as they chomped on wings and pizza. And then they were all floored to find out they had to play in Dayton and were the last team to make it in. I'm still not over that travesty because I truly believe they were a Sweet 16 team if they didn't have to play 6 games in 9 days down the stretch with an already short bench. Almost hung on to beat Oklahoma despite all that!

You just never know. More often than not the committee seems to find a way to bungle things. I certainly hope that 2015 will stand the test of time as the worst job in Selection Committee history. If 2017 doesn't top that bad act then we're in more than safely regardless of what transpires in Pittsburgh. But if teams start to "gather steam" again, well... look out!
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Here's the link to the A10 tournament game/TV schedule:
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Thanks. Would be nice if the UD web site had this listed too.
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FWIW, I think it's incumbent upon the Flyer Faithful IN PITTSBURGH for the game to arrive early and do what we can to turn PPG Paints Arena into UD Arena, PA annex! Noon starts usually means the team that creates their own energy...and early...gains an advantage that's tough to stop.

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And of course the A10 is too cheap to have their own completely painted/finished court.

Link below shows the arena people putting the stickers on the court that some player is inevitably going to slip on and get hurt. SMH.

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And of course the A10 is too cheap to have their own completely painted/finished court.

Link below shows the arena people putting the stickers on the court that some player is inevitably going to slip on and get hurt. SMH.

https://twitter.com/jcfergus1027/sta...60502278361088
I just assumed thats what everyone did?.. Is that not the case? Do other conferences actually paint?
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FWIW, I think it's incumbent upon the Flyer Faithful IN PITTSBURGH for the game to arrive early and do what we can to turn PPG Paints Arena into UD Arena, PA annex! Noon starts usually means the team that creates their own energy...and early...gains an advantage that's tough to stop.

Bring it Flyer Faithful!
I am with you Radar; as there is no sense in having the tournament relatively close, making the trip, and then sitting on your hands...so to speak, and waiting for something good to happen. The Flyers need the verbal support of the faithful; it helps defensive legs, boost energy, nerve racks the opponent, and heightens the flyers concentration level. I hope we are looking at a virtual UD Arena East atmosphere. If UD doesn't bring at-least two or three thousand, I will call that a low end and disappointing draw. My feeling is, no reason UD shouldn't get four or five thousand fanatics to the PPG Paints Arena, or more. I mentioned in another thread, you better get there and enjoy it, because the A10 tourney will not be getting anywhere near the UD Arena in the next ten years or more. It was only via negotiation mishap that the A10 commissioner stumbled her way to Pittsburgh...see the ACC negotiation debacle. In this sense, our support for Flyer Basketball is held against us.

However, there is a mutual street, and so hopefully there will be much to cheer for, as the Flyers have to give us something to cheer for. Cannot get down 15-20 points in the first ten to fifteen minutes of games.

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I just assumed thats what everyone did?.. Is that not the case? Do other conferences actually paint?
Several of the Big Conferences have their own courts that are completely painted that they use every year and that they can just sand and repaint if they switch venues. Just watch throughout the week and you will see them. I've been watching the ACC in Brooklyn today and their court has no stickers. Heck their women's tournament had it's own specially painted court last week when they played in Coastal Carolina's arena. Do smaller conferences use stickers? Yes but I can't believe the A10 can't come up with enough money to get a court they can paint and use for multiple years.

Here is the Mountain West Conference Tournament court. They started using it in 2013 and this picture is from the 2016 tournament. If they can do it the A10 can.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/...ent-final-blog
http://www.mwcconnection.com/mountai...sketball-court




The Horizon League in Detroit has their own court too.

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Watched some of St. Joes-UMass.

My God, how did we lose to UMass? They are freaking terrible.

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I think our rooting interests today are LaSalle, St. Bonaventure,Fordham, and George Washington. Those guys have the best shots at picking off VCU,Richmond and Rhode Island. Id much rather play LaSalle and their dumpster fire then Gibbs and Aldridge again
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You wouldn't happen to have a picture that would describe all the teams in the A-10 sans Dayton and VCU would you?
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Didn't want to start a new thread for this so I'll stick it here. Tomorrow (Friday 3/10) CBS Morning Show will have a feature on the Mandarin Broadcasts of our BB games. It will air after 8:30 am.
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Fordham has a 7 point lead with 40 seconds to go in regulation over GMU. Mason ties it up on a layup at the buzzer and wins in OT. March Madness.

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GW has a total of 4 points in over 10 minutes. They used their luck up against us.
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GW has a total of 4 points in over 10 minutes. They used their luck up against us.
2:45 left in the first and they're still only at 11...they scored 16 against us in the first 3 minutes of the game on Saturday.
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GW 0-9 in the first half on threes.

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After our game it's the law of averages catching up. Apparently tragically bad St Louis is at least not letting Cavanaugh have wide open looks
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Gameday folks. Goes without saying SBU-URI is lining up to be the best game of the day. I'd say Dayton-Davidson is the next toughest. I anticipate VCU to cruise against GMU, provided VCU doesn't go like 3-18 from 3. GW could give Richmond trouble. One thing i know, today's games will be better then yesterday's
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I laugh at everyone here that is scared of every potential opponent. You know who is not scared? Archie Miller and the Dayton Flyers. Just beat whoever you are scheduled to play. Have some confidence people! We are 15-3 and A10 Champs!!!
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Whoops. Gotta give it to Davidson. Gibbs wanted it more than anyone on the court, and he was a man among boys today. He outshined Scoochie and the rest. Archie got outcoached by the old wiley veteran. No idea how Davidson finished 9th in the A 10. They are a Top 5 team.
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I guess this is one way to potentially receive 3 bids to the NCAAT.
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VCU just got the easiest road to an A10 tournament title paved for them. No thanks necessary.
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Luckiest team in the country, but Ken Pom's nutty stat geek ratings have them as the 79th luckiest team in the country. LOL
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If URI wins today, Davidson will play another team they "should've" beaten earlier this year, as they were up double digits on Rhody as well in the season finale before choking it away.
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Let's go Mason and GW in tonight's games. I want total chaos.
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VCU comes out aggressively against Mason. Have played man, pressed 3/4 court, and played 1-3-1 in the first two minutes of the game. Got up 6-0 and forced a Mason timeout.
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VCU comes out aggressively against Mason. Have played man, pressed 3/4 court, and played 1-3-1 in the first two minutes of the game. Got up 6-0 and forced a Mason timeout.
URI also came out aggressive early in their game. SBU did a good job to get back in but you had the feel like URI was always in command of the game from the start. That's what good teams do.
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BTW for all of you who haven't drank yourselves into a stupor or cried yourself to sleep you should be watching this VCU Mason game. It's pretty good. GM 43 VCU 42 11:30 to play.
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Someone should change the title of this thread to: "A-10 Tournament Thread. Pittsburgh, Mar 8-10"
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I've got to say, after watching this A10 tournament, it feels like I'm watching a boatload of NIT teams. All good and tough, but none great.
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Even more frustrating that the other three double bye teams all held serve and advanced to the semifinals.
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