Welcome to the Family Enkhiin-Od "Mike" Sharavjamts!

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by FLYER5 I'm glad you read into that how I read into it.

Not sure how you read into something. I was just commenting that English can be a challenging language.

[Medford]

Originally Posted by springborofan Not sure how you read into something. I was just commenting that English can be a challenging language.

English... some days it drives you to tears, the other days it just tears you to pieces; just when you are close to understanding it, the door closes on your life. Personally, I wish we spoke Polish, cause then we'd all have more time to polish our cars.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

English doesn’t even make the list of most difficult languages to learn. It’s an odd language, but it’s not as tough as others. Japanese is particularly tough as pronouns aren’t used the same as we do. Iku can mean I go, you go, or he goes. If you lose the context, you’re completely lost. The whole Kanzi thing is actually easier to grasp than our written language though. Crazy stuff.
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[UDGutter2]

What i like about English is:

Read rhymes with red but doesn't rhyme with Reed. Whereas, read rhymes with Reed and doesn't rhyme with red.

[lhsgolf19]

Mike makes some big jumps

Finishes #95 in the Final ESPN Rankings

Also finished #94 and a 4 Star in the Final Rivals Rankings... jumped the most out of anyone (53 Spots) and became the #1 Recruit in the A10

[Hyde Park Flyer]

I have never seen that one, Gutter. That’s solid.
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[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Mike makes some big jumps Finishes #95 in the Final ESPN Rankings Also finished #94 and a 4 Star in the Final Rivals Rankings... jumped the most out of anyone (53 Spots) and became the #1 Recruit in the A10

That makes what 3 out of AGs 5 seasons he brought in the highest rated recruit in the conference
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[lhsgolf19]

Mike finishes #40 in the final on3 Rankings

Whoa
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[John C.]

Funny, it used to be sign with Dayton and you rating goes down. Now it is the opposite

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by John C. Funny, it used to be sign with Dayton and you rating goes down. Now it is the opposite

Or both were delusions.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Jablonski traveled to interview Mike and his coach at prep school.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...LZEHPMVE7GHU4/

He will be on campus June 15. He is flying home next week and will play with the national team on June 2 and Jun 3 in Sri Lanka.

His coach:

He lives in the gym. He loves the game. He’s easy to coach. I think we kind of challenged him to get away from certain tendencies and to expand his game because the scary thing about Mike is eventually he really won’t have any weaknesses.”

He’s going to go in there and be able to hang. He’s in a tough spot as far as he’s the only freshman. He’s going to be a freshman coming to a top-20 team where he’s trying to earn minutes. It’s going to be a hard challenge, but I think he’s up for the challenge.”

[Viperstick]

Mike dunks over his dad in a dunk exhibition:

+ YouTube Video

[Viperstick]

Mike's dad playing for the Mongolian national team in 1997. Dude could ball.

+ YouTube Video

[joeybaloney]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan A short video of Mike where he pronounced his name. I had to listen to it a couple of times. https://twitter.com/Sharavjamts55/st...oVj2tY9dXwTCzA

I listened to it 4 times and never heard he or jablonski pronounce his name.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by joeybaloney I listened to it 4 times and never heard he or jablonski pronounce his name.

I didn't either.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Originally Posted by joeybaloney I listened to it 4 times and never heard he or jablonski pronounce his name.

Originally Posted by longtimefan I didn't either.

Sorry, He pronounces it in the video with the article I posted earlier. I saw a clip on twitter and thought it was the same so I posted it for people who don't have access to the DDN. it doesn't contain the first part where he pronounces his name. I will delete.

[Flyer 86]

Originally Posted by joeybaloney I listened to it 4 times and never heard he or jablonski pronounce his name.

Cause I don't think it possible. 😁

[San Diego Flyer]

For me, he is going to affectionately be Mike or Mongo Mike.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Flyer 86 Cause I don't think it possible. 😁

Bucky would have nailed it........every time.

[OSU Flyer]

Mike finishes at 102 in 247's final rankings

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Ba...=HighSchool%2F

[Abuelo]

84 on their composite ranking now up 6 spots
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[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

https://theathletic.com/3319205/2022.../?redirected=1

Early College Basketball Top 25: Best newcomers at every school

Dayton
Mike Sharavjamts. If the best indication of how legit Anthony Grant has made Dayton of late was the signing and subsequent excellence of freshman center DaRon Holmes, a top-50 player nationally in the Class of 2021 with plenty of high-major options before he committed to UD, Sharavjamts’ arrival is simply another piece of supporting proof. The Mongolian-born incoming freshman marks yet another top-100 prospect on Dayton’s books, one who chose the Flyers over Providence and Rutgers, among others.

Beyond the status of his commitment, though, Sharavjamts fits the Dayton vibe perfectly. At 6-foot-7, he’s more of a point guard than a forward, a ballhandler and playmaker more than a wing scorer. He is going to have the ball in his hands a lot, and as exciting as that is in and of itself it also, at bare minimum, provides some depth behind Malachi Smith, the point guard whose Atlantic 10 tournament injury derailed bubbly Dayton’s chances of making the 2022 dance. — Brennan

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Mike's at home repping Dayton.
https://twitter.com/dashaa_e/status/...5_TeAwrozzvhfA

[MikeFlyer]

How tall is he exactly? 6-7 6-8 or 6-9. I've read all 3 several times.

[San Diego Flyer]

I can't answer your question, but his floppy hair may have hit the bottom of the board in the dunk above. I think the answer is "tall enough".

[The Fly]

Originally Posted by MikeFlyer How tall is he exactly? 6-7 6-8 or 6-9. I've read all 3 several times.

For what it’s worth, Daytonflyers.com listed him as 6-9 when announcing his commitment. That may change when he’s on campus and officially measured for the roster.

[N2663R]

Originally Posted by MikeFlyer How tall is he exactly? 6-7 6-8 or 6-9. I've read all 3 several times.

Yes, you have the correct height listed . . .

[sheg]

He was measured at 6'8 3/4 at the Nike event. In shoes. So he'd be listed at 6'11" on most college rosters.

https://twitter.com/NBADraftMikeyV/s...McfKAoRnw&s=19

[Runnin' Rebel]

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfee...e-the-nba-leap

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfee...e-the-nba-leap

Very interesting. Sounds to me, at least from this writer's perspective, that Mike is an offensive juggernaut who can handle the PG duties when we have possession. But the other side of the coin is that he's in no man's land when it comes to defense. If we're playing against good quick guards and small forwards, he's going to have to have Mali and/or Elvis on the floor at the same time(by what this article says about his defense). Or we will have to play a lot of zone defense when he's in the game.

Can't wait to see the observations on his D from those attending today.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Very interesting. Sounds to me, at least from this writer's perspective, that Mike is an offensive juggernaut who can handle the PG duties when we have possession. But the other side of the coin is that he's in no man's land when it comes to defense. If we're playing against good quick guards and small forwards, he's going to have to have Mali and/or Elvis on the floor at the same time(by what this article says about his defense). Or we will have to play a lot of zone defense when he's in the game. Can't wait to see the observations on his D from those attending today.

Keep in mind that this is from the perspective of what he needs to do to make an NBA roster, not necessarily what he is expected to do at Dayton. Nonetheless the observation that he has trouble with quick drivers, which is not unexpected for a guy who is 6'7", comes from somewhere so hopefully it is something he is working on.

To be honest, I never really envisioned a situation where Mike is on the floor as the sole point guard, so I am not really worried about him having to man up against a super quick 6' guy. I am more intrigued to see what he does against bigger guys from a strength standpoint.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 Keep in mind that this is from the perspective of what he needs to do to make an NBA roster, not necessarily what he is expected to do at Dayton. Nonetheless the observation that he has trouble with quick drivers, which is not unexpected for a guy who is 6'7", comes from somewhere so hopefully it is something he is working on. To be honest, I never really envisioned a situation where Mike is on the floor as the sole point guard, so I am not really worried about him having to man up against a super quick 6' guy. I am more intrigued to see what he does against bigger guys from a strength standpoint.

Yeah, I knew it was about his NBA prospects. However, it's hard for me to believe that someone can spot a weakness of a player in high school and that not being at least a slightly more magnified issue in college.

Also, we were told all off-season that our PG depth wasn't a problem because we also have Mike. But if Mali and/or Elvis has to miss a game this season, who else we got unless we play the non-injured PG all 40 minutes.

[flyer016]

Appreciate the link and the chatter. That video from ISA is great.


His position is whatever he defends best.

If he can swallow up PG with his length, we can call him a PG.

If his quickness only allows him to guard 3-5, he's a forward.

No matter where you peg him defensively, you can run offense through him. He can bring the ball up. He can be iso'd on the wing. He can run pick 'n roll.

I think this is where Grant is at his best and where I think Mike may thrive. He wants to be positionless, and he's creative getting the ball in the hands of his offensive talent.

[Gazoo]

The 2019 team had a pretty good chemistry that any one of 4-5 guys could take the outlet pass and confidently lead the break. Crutcher, Chapman, Mikesell, Ibi, Trey (carefully), Obi, none would hesitate to take the ball and go if it meant we could avoid disrupting the flow of the break.



This year we should have 7 guys who, if in the right position, could push the ball. (Obviously not all 7 can lead a break like Mali.)

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Mike's family is in Dayton visiting and will attend Saturday's game. I read somewhere that they flew into Chicago and rented a car and drove to Dayton.

Some posts (in reverse order)
https://twitter.com/keegan_gupta/sta...5Qkh_ZhELrysIg

https://twitter.com/Sharavjamts55/st...5Qkh_ZhELrysIg

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkEbKZNM_Ns/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkEDkdvs4Iu/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkBm7JJs6Ck/

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by flyer016 His position is whatever he defends best. If he can swallow up PG with his length, we can call him a PG.

Perhaps you missed some of the injury news in other threads.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Perhaps you missed some of the injury news in other threads.

Haven't seen much of Mike in action, but I actually don't think he'll be able to guard a PG, so he won't solve our PG depth problem. Just picture Mike trying to guard Yuri Collins.

That said, excited to see what he can do this year, and it's really cool that his family is here to watch!

[jack72]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Haven't seen much of Mike in action, but I actually don't think he'll be able to guard a PG, so he won't solve our PG depth problem. Just picture Mike trying to guard Yuri Collins. That said, excited to see what he can do this year, and it's really cool that his family is here to watch!

Nor will many smaller point guards guard Mike. It works both ways.
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[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Haven't seen much of Mike in action, but I actually don't think he'll be able to guard a PG, so he won't solve our PG depth problem. Just picture Mike trying to guard Yuri Collins. That said, excited to see what he can do this year, and it's really cool that his family is here to watch!

He doesn’t have to guard the PG on D to play the point on O. Not too sure anyone guarded Yuri well at SL last year so not sure that’s a good example to use to prove he can’t guard a PG.
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[OSU Flyer]

I wonder if they'd take advantage of the length on the team and run some Syracuse style 2-3 zone

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Haven't seen much of Mike in action, but I actually don't think he'll be able to guard a PG, so he won't solve our PG depth problem. Just picture Mike trying to guard Yuri Collins. That said, excited to see what he can do this year, and it's really cool that his family is here to watch!

I watched Mike play pg on an all-star type of team last year. It was a very different type of situation, but it left me with the impression that he can do it.

But, I think it will be a while before we see him settle into whatever role he is going to have. Remember that it took our outstanding freshmen a while to figure it out last year.

[Jeff]

https://twitter.com/Sharavjamts55/st...41644549443584

Wow.

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by Fudd I watched Mike play pg on an all-star type of team last year. It was a very different type of situation, but it left me with the impression that he can do it. But, I think it will be a while before we see him settle into whatever role he is going to have. Remember that it took our outstanding freshmen a while to figure it out last year.

Mike played pg at the NIKE Summit, and did very well for himself.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Jeff https://twitter.com/Sharavjamts55/st...41644549443584 Wow.

Pretty impressive. However, strength-wise he is just a puppy. I think Pop would agree with me. Watch closely as he lands. The legs have spring, but not strength. He struggles to gain his balance, much as Kostos' landing on one leg after a dunk.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer Pretty impressive. However, strength-wise he is just a puppy. I think Pop would agree with me. Watch closely as he lands. The legs have spring, but not strength. He struggles to gain his balance, much as Kostos' landing on one leg after a dunk.

I agree, but am glad he's on our side!

[Swampy Meadows]

The first episode of the documentary on Mike:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81wbjAYJ8qM&t=897s

[frisco flyer]

Let’s all go like this tweet…

https://twitter.com/sharavjamts55/st...IzElCm4-JnSrMg

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Let’s all go like this tweet… https://twitter.com/sharavjamts55/st...IzElCm4-JnSrMg

Saw him today, kid already has more meat on his bones than Mike.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Let’s all go like this tweet… https://twitter.com/sharavjamts55/st...IzElCm4-JnSrMg

Offer him now!

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan Saw him today, kid already has more meat on his bones than Mike.

The family was sitting in the section below ours at today’s game. When we stood for the National Anthem, it appeared Dad was shorter than “little” brother. Also saw Li’l Bro on the concourse before the game. At 6’1”, I think I came up to his shoulder joint. He’s a tall hombre.
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[Fudd]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Let’s all go like this tweet… https://twitter.com/sharavjamts55/st...IzElCm4-JnSrMg

Yes please!

[Monster Man]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 The family was sitting in the section below ours at today’s game. When we stood for the National Anthem, it appeared Dad was shorter than “little” brother. Also saw Li’l Bro on the concourse before the game. At 6’1”, I think I came up to his shoulder joint. He’s a tall hombre. Posted via Mobile Device

He is only 15 years old and is currently playing for Flight Academy. His frame is more like his dad’s than Mike’s. He’s not nearly as skilled as Mike, but you can’t teach 7’0 and he has good basketball genes.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Monster Man He is only 15 years old and is currently playing for Flight Academy. His frame is more like his dad’s than Mike’s. He’s not nearly as skilled as Mike, but you can’t teach 7’0 and he has good basketball genes. Posted via Mobile Device

Your comment reminds me of a quote that I believe was attributed to the late, great John Wooden. When asked if he’d rather have a kid with skills or a kid who was tall, he said he’d take the latter because “I can’t coach a kid to be tall” or words to that effect.
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[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Your comment reminds me of a quote that I believe was attributed to the late, great John Wooden. When asked if he’d rather have a kid with skills or a kid who was tall, he said he’d take the latter because “I can’t coach a kid to be tall” or words to that effect. Posted via Mobile Device

I saw Mike's family in the hallway at the game. His father is a giant of a man, very distinguished-looking. I did not see the brother.

[N2663R]

Freshman year comparison . . so far

Mali vs Mike

AVE MIN - 31 / 27.7
FG AVE - .403 / .403
3PT AVE - .400 / .368
FT AVE - .784 / .733
REB AVE - 4.1 / 2.0
ASS AVE - 5.3 / 3.0
T/O AVE - 2.0 / 2.1
PPG AVE - 9.3 / 8.3

[San Diego Flyer]

one more:

5'11" vs 6'8" at pg

[Hyde Park Flyer]

The stats are a bit misleading for Mike as he has not played PG for the entire season. His assists have ticked up significantly over the last couple of few games. His bout with the flu are over emphasized with so few games played. I expect his end of season offensive numbers to exceed Mali’s, but his defensive play will remain far behind.
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[N2663R]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer one more: 5'11" vs 6'8" at pg

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer The stats are a bit misleading for Mike as he has not played PG for the entire season. His assists have ticked up significantly over the last couple of few games. His bout with the flu are over emphasized with so few games played. I expect his end of season offensive numbers to exceed Mali’s, but his defensive play will remain far behind. Posted via Mobile Device

Agreed that Mike’s sample size is still small, but you have two players at the same position accomplishing similar results with different sizes and skill sets.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by N2663R Agreed that Mike’s sample size is still small, but you have two players at the same position accomplishing similar results with different sizes and skill sets.

Your argument would be much stronger if you compared games in which Mike was the point to Mali.

I could say in 4 games Mali had 18 assists, and in 2 games Mike had 16. You would point to turnovers. I would point to scoring. So, stats can be manipulated to tell the story you want.

Let's see what Mike's stat's are after four games. Unfortunately there's no stat on entry passes, but there's no doubt Mike funnels the ball into the bigs at a higher rate. That is very easy to see watching the games.

As a bonus, Mike even drives to his left and right!

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by TommyGola I saw Mike's family in the hallway at the game. His father is a giant of a man, very distinguished-looking. I did not see the brother.

Picture Dad, but with about 25-30 more pounds on the frame. Granted, some of that appeared to be baby fat, but Junior isn’t really Mike’s “little” brother.
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[rollo]

BUMP...just for sh*ts and giggles.

[Swampy Meadows]

Article from the San Francisco Chronicle about Mike's move to USF:

https://archive.ph/pbhC0

Here is the interesting part:

What many Mongolians didn’t know was that the Milwaukee Bucks promised to take Sharavjamts with the 58th and final pick if he stayed in the draft. But since they could only guarantee him a two-way contract, he returned to college and scoured the NCAA’s transfer portal for a new school.

[squirt]

Nice try Mike, with the off hours call to coach pleading for a new zone defense to protect your lack of skills on that side of the ball.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows Article from the San Francisco Chronicle about Mike's move to USF: https://archive.ph/pbhC0 Here is the interesting part: What many Mongolians didn’t know was that the Milwaukee Bucks promised to take Sharavjamts with the 58th and final pick if he stayed in the draft. But since they could only guarantee him a two-way contract, he returned to college and scoured the NCAA’s transfer portal for a new school.

I have no reason to not trust the reporting, but, man, I find this hard to believe.

I have a hard time believing a NBA team thought that highly of a player who didn't really stand out in the A10.

I also have a hard time believing Mike turned down the opportunity. He walked away from a legitimate NBA shot for a chance to prove himself at the University of San Francisco.

He's either got a great PR team or a really bad agent.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by flyer016 I have no reason to not trust the reporting, but, man, I find this hard to believe. I have a hard time believing a NBA team thought that highly of a player who didn't really stand out in the A10. I also have a hard time believing Mike turned down the opportunity. He walked away from a legitimate NBA shot for a chance to prove himself at the University of San Francisco. He's either got a great PR team or a really bad agent.

I agree 100%. No reason to doubt the reporting but what was the thought process...that USF would be a better place to prepare him for the NBA? I do get the whole NIL connection and the cultural/population benefits of SF, but that seems a little short sighted if the goal was to to play in the NBA. I am of course biased, but I just don't see that he would think he would get more exposure or better coaching at SF.

Quite possible it was just about playing time. I mean, if you are the #2 or #3 PG on your team you probably aren't going in the 1st round. We did have a guy, I forget his last name, who was supposed to the be the next coming of the Greek Freak. To this day, I firmly believe that he went to the NBA after one year because he realized he wasn't going to be the best PF on his own team the following year, and it turns out he would have been right.

[FlyingArrow]

I don't know what the best move for him would have been, but I can see the argument for San Francisco.

* A much bigger Mongolian presence
* NIL is more money
* He'll play fewer games than G-League, but he's more likely to be a featured player. (And more likely to be featured there than here.)
* A couple of games against legit teams in Gonzaga and St Mary's plus some decent non-conference games

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by FlyingArrow I don't know what the best move for him would have been, but I can see the argument for San Francisco. * A much bigger Mongolian presence * NIL is more money * He'll play fewer games than G-League, but he's more likely to be a featured player. (And more likely to be featured there than here.) * A couple of games against legit teams in Gonzaga and St Mary's plus some decent non-conference games

I get the thought but to me, taking a step down in competition except for the Gonzaga game(s), so you can be featured, probably doesn't bode well for convincing an NBA franchise that you are one of the best players in the world.

I don't see a lot of high school prospects transferring to lower division schools. I hope it all works out well for Mike. He is clearly talented and you can't coach a guy to be 6'7", so the pieces are there. As for being promised being selected this year in the 2nd round, I don't buy it and if it is true is seems like he took a pay cut to play another year of college which doesn't really square with how good he and his advisors thing he is right now.

[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 I get the thought but to me, taking a step down in competition except for the Gonzaga game(s), so you can be featured, probably doesn't bode well for convincing an NBA franchise that you are one of the best players in the world. I don't see a lot of high school prospects transferring to lower division schools. I hope it all works out well for Mike. He is clearly talented and you can't coach a guy to be 6'7", so the pieces are there. As for being promised being selected this year in the 2nd round, I don't buy it and if it is true is seems like he took a pay cut to play another year of college which doesn't really square with how good he and his advisors thing he is right now.

2-way deals aren't that great. I don't know what kind of NIL deal he got, but I suspect he's making more in NIL than he would have as a 2-way player... unless he managed to actually get at least 10 or 15 days in the NBA.

WCC isn't really a lower division than the A-10. Pretty much on par. But he went from one of the top teams of the A-10 to a middle-of-the-road WCC team, so in that sense it was a step down. I guess we'll see if it was the right move for him.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by FlyingArrow 2-way deals aren't that great. I don't know what kind of NIL deal he got, but I suspect he's making more in NIL than he would have as a 2-way player... unless he managed to actually get at least 10 or 15 days in the NBA. WCC isn't really a lower division than the A-10. Pretty much on par. But he went from one of the top teams of the A-10 to a middle-of-the-road WCC team, so in that sense it was a step down. I guess we'll see if it was the right move for him.

There's no definitive right or wrong here. He--as the kids love to say--bet on himself.

If he goes out there and wins conference MVP and fulfills some of his potential, his stock goes up. I'd argue many of his limitations (mass, lateral agility) will remain, and he'd still be a second round-ish pick.

If he goes out there and has a season similar to last year or shows slight improvement, his NBA chances are likely over.

To my mind, he'd be better off developing in the NBA pipeline. I won't pretend to know what his NIL situation is as USF, but a two-way contract for the upcoming year is $600k. That's not chump change.

Either way, all the best to Mike. Got a fun game. Hope he's a NBA player soon.

[Gazoo]

I was betting on Mike being an NBA prospect coming out of his senior season. Last year? I'm sorry, I don't see it. Unless he had secret injuries to his back, hips, knee(s), and hand that we didn't know about, he might not have been the 3rd best PG on our team last year.

I was excited to see him develop over 4 years but calling him a late 2nd round pick, not a chance.

[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by flyer016 To my mind, he'd be better off developing in the NBA pipeline. I won't pretend to know what his NIL situation is as USF, but a two-way contract for the upcoming year is $600k. That's not chump change.

Oh wow - I missed the news on that change. The change happened a couple years ago. 2-way contracts are now half of the rookie minimum.

It used to be that it was pro-rated so that you get the G-League salary when in the G-League and NBA-level pay for the days you're in the NBA. G-League salary would be somewhere in the ballpark of 50-80k (more than the ~30k the non 2-way players in G-League get). For the NBA days, they would've been pro-rated at the NBA minimum rate... more than 10 times the G-League pay. But 2-way players could end up spending the whole season in the G-League. They'd generally be called up for at least the last game or 2, but that could actually be their only days in the NBA, resulting in way less than many NIL deals.

Going to 50% of NBA minimum is a much better deal than the old 2-way contracts. Enough that I now think Mike made the wrong choice. (Assuming the news of the guaranteed pick is true.)

[BeckysTXA]

I too have a hard time believing the guarantee pick story. Seems that might be a lost-in-translation issue. Or an agent over-selling reality to please a client’s dad. Time will tell, but I’m guessing Mike has got more than a year of college left even under the best of circumstances and a record-setting year. I didn’t see him beef up at Dayton and I believe we have a really good program that physically builds a lot of players across a lot of sports. We see it in men’s basketball every year. I saw nothing to indicate Mike improved in this area.

[longtimefan]

Am I supposed to care what happens to him?

[Brad S.]

Originally Posted by longtimefan Am I supposed to care what happens to him?

Am I supposed to care whether you care?

[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by longtimefan Am I supposed to care what happens to him?

Since you clicked on the thread... yes. You're supposed to ignore threads you don't care about.

[zmz723]

Not too difficult of a concept, but of course Longtimefan can’t grasp it
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[superfan99]

For me, I am more interested in what happens to Mongo Mike this year than anything else in college b-ball this season (outside of the Flyers).

I wouldn't say I "care" like I do about the Dayton players, but I am very interested and curious to see which direction his career goes.

[Bill McPeek]

I feel no animosity towards Mike, and wish him well, but I could care less how he performs this year and what his future holds. I feel the same towards Blakney and Amzil.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek I feel no animosity towards Mike, and wish him well, but I could care less how he performs this year and what his future holds. I feel the same towards Blakney and Amzil.

But don't you get it, if you "could care less how he performs this year and what his future holds" you're not allowed to click on this thread. Someone might call you stupid.

[superfan99]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek I feel no animosity towards Mike, and wish him well, but I could care less how he performs this year and what his future holds. I feel the same towards Blakney and Amzil.

To each their own. I am interested in at least keeping loose tabs on every former Flyer.

I'm curious, in your case, are you not interested because they bailed on UD, or do you feel the same about every player post-UD? Are you interested in how Obi and Toumani do? Red Scare TBT? I love all that stuff.

Like I said. I don't have a passionate rooting interest in Amzil or Blakney this year, but to say "I couldn't care less" would be a lie. I am more interested in them than whomever is on OSU or Kentucky or any other random team. But I am even more interested in Mike because I'm not sure how it's going to turn out. There is less mystery with Blakney.

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[superfan99]

Originally Posted by longtimefan But don't you get it, if you "could care less how he performs this year and what his future holds" you're not allowed to click on this thread. Someone might call you stupid.

I'm not one of the people that criticized you Longtime, but I think it was less that you clicked on the thread, and more that you seemed to be complaining that it existed. The fact is some people do care. Leave the thread to them.

For instance, there are often threads about players from the 60's-80's before my time, that I don't care about. I don't read them, or quickly move on. I don't post a message on the thread saying "Am I supposed to care about these old timers?".

[T-Bone 84]

Actually, “I could care less” means you do care, at least a little. Just like “irregardless” means “with regard”.
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[Bill McPeek]

Originally Posted by superfan99 To each their own. I am interested in at least keeping loose tabs on every former Flyer. I'm curious, in your case, are you not interested because they bailed on UD, or do you feel the same about every player post-UD? Are you interested in how Obi and Toumani do? Red Scare TBT? I love all that stuff. Like I said. I don't have a passionate rooting interest in Amzil or Blakney this year, but to say "I couldn't care less" would be a lie. I am more interested in them than whomever is on OSU or Kentucky or any other random team. But I am even more interested in Mike because I'm not sure how it's going to turn out. There is less mystery with Blakney.

Yes I'm interested in how Obi and Toumani's careers pan out. They were great ambassadors for the University. Not the same as the three players I mentioned. I don't wish the three ill, I'm just not interested in following them.

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[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Actually, “I could care less” means you do care, at least a little. Just like “irregardless” means “with regard”. Posted via Mobile Device

You are 100% correct "with regard" to "I could care less," however "irregardless" means regardless, (my auto correct is actually trying to correct it to regardless now). I learned that from Family Guy, and just confirmed it with the Oxford dictionary.

These are discussions I come to this board for!!! Sorry, "for which I come to this Board." Sorry everybody.

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[hawkoooo]

Using "irregardless" unironically is a big no-no. The speaker is instantly discredited. "Incidences" is also in that category.

Another one that isn't quite as bad but really bothers me: saying "wild, wild West." The expression is WILD WEST people. "Pled" instead of "pleaded" also bugs me but I see better lawyers than me make this mistake daily so I let it go.

I could go on but this post would meander into the OTG forum.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Using "irregardless" unironically is a big no-no. The speaker is instantly discredited. "Incidences" is also in that category. Another one that isn't quite as bad but really bothers me: saying "wild, wild West." The expression is WILD WEST people. "Pled" instead of "pleaded" also bugs me but I see better lawyers than me make this mistake daily so I let it go. I could go on but this post would meander into the OTG forum.

Not to tempt fate, but before this was brought up I would have told you that irregardless was not even a word. Then I looked it up and there it is in the dictionary with an explanation that it has been in use for over two centuries across a wide geographical area and with consistent meaning. Now whether it is advisable to use the word outside of irony, is a "whole nother" question, (sorry, couldn't resist).

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 Not to tempt fate, but before this was brought up I would have told you that irregardless was not even a word. Then I looked it up and there it is in the dictionary with an explanation that it has been in use for over two centuries across a wide geographical area and with consistent meaning. Now whether it is advisable to use the word outside of irony, is a "whole nother" question, (sorry, couldn't resist).

According to dictionary.com "cisgender" is also a word. No serious person on Earth would use that term unironically. A word's acknowledgment as such does not necessitate it's use.

"Nother" is slang and is therefore acceptable. Know the rules so that you can break them.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo saying "wild, wild West." The expression is WILD WEST people.

And here comes the Escape Club to rock it all night...

[Columbia Blue]

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[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo According to dictionary.com "cisgender" is also a word. No serious person on Earth would use that term unironically. A word's acknowledgment as such does not necessitate it's use. "Nother" is slang and is therefore acceptable. Know the rules so that you can break them.

First of all, nobody said anything about dictionary.com. Secondly, people use the word cisgender all the time. I don't and I'm guessing you don't but we are a pretty small sample size. Nother is not slang, it is idiocy, (I guess who is acknowledging matters on an individual basis). In any event since all language is arbitrary I guess somebody has to make the rules, now that the Queen is dead. I may not always agree with them but I will look to Websters and Oxford.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer And here comes the Escape Club to rock it all night...

My God that song was bad.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 First of all, nobody said anything about dictionary.com. Secondly, people use the word cisgender all the time. I don't and I'm guessing you don't but we are a pretty small sample size. Nother is not slang, it is idiocy, (I guess who is acknowledging matters on an individual basis). In any event since all language is arbitrary I guess somebody has to make the rules, now that the Queen is dead. I may not always agree with them but I will look to Websters and Oxford.

People use it sure, all I said was they aren't to be taken seriously. Just like anyone who says irregardless. Nother is definitely slang. If someone didn't know "nother" was incorrect I agree that person is an idiot. But if they do know and are simply using it to color their speech, I've no problem with that. Just like I've no problem with starting a sentence with but and dispensing with complete sentences in an internet forum.

My point is that there is a difference between things that should never be said (like irregardless) and silly fun slang like "nother." You wouldn't say "whole nother" in a speech or while addressing a tribunal, but you'd say it with your buddies at a bar.

[Flyers98]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo People use it sure, all I said was they aren't to be taken seriously. Just like anyone who says irregardless. Nother is definitely slang. If someone didn't know "nother" was incorrect I agree that person is an idiot. But if they do know and are simply using it to color their speech, I've no problem with that. Just like I've no problem with starting a sentence with but and dispensing with complete sentences in an internet forum. My point is that there is a difference between things that should never be said (like irregardless) and silly fun slang like "nother." You wouldn't say "whole nother" in a speech or while addressing a tribunal, but you'd say it with your buddies at a bar.

I would say both if I were messing around with buddies, I think it is just a matter of personal preference. I also generally roll my eyes and think someone is an a-hole if they publicly correct someone's grammar (and it isn't being done in fun). This was a fun discussion on a day with nothing basketball to talk about.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 My God that song was bad.

Indeed, but the real question here is what is responsible for a whole generation of people saying that expression incorrectly? That song, or the even worse Will Smith movie? Or the not-so-bad song by Will Smith of the same name?

There was also the 60's TV show "The Wild Wild West," but the expression mix up seems to be a more modern phenomenon so I don't think the show is to blame.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 I would say both if I were messing around with buddies, I think it is just a matter of personal preference. I also generally roll my eyes and think someone is an a-hole if they publicly correct someone's grammar (and it isn't being done in fun). This was a fun discussion on a day with nothing basketball to talk about.

Agreed. It has been a boring few days around here...

[FORTFLYERFAN]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 You are 100% correct "with regard" to "I could care less," however "irregardless" means regardless, (my auto correct is actually trying to correct it to regardless now). I learned that from Family Guy, and just confirmed it with the Oxford dictionary. These are discussions I come to this board for!!! Sorry, "for which I come to this Board." Sorry everybody.

So for all intensive purposes, you both could be correct.

[FlyingArrow]

Originally Posted by FORTFLYERFAN So for all intensive purposes, you both could be correct.

Well plaid.