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Ibi is a great example. He was not getting minutes at Michigan (a far better program than UD) and landed here and excelled.
And we see players like Cohill do the same thing only downward from us.
As players transfer out, we need to get transfers in that are of high cailber. I keep hearing about playing at UD Arena, the fans, the resources, Obi in the NBA, Grant having NBA experience but coaching at his alma mater... so where are the transfers? We have an open scholly even before any other transfers out...
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I would guess a combination of a few things. He is definitely playing against weaker competition in the Horizon, but he is also The Guy there. At UD he was never expected to be the main scorer.
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As someone who personally knows individuals who worked with him in HS, "The Guy" is an astute observation. DC has always had skills, but in HS he was a prolific scorer and "The Guy" on a team that played inferior talent night in and night out. This went to his head in a big way. He could not make the mental adjustment to a role player at UD. He grew up some at UD and became "The Guy" at YSU.
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As players transfer out, we need to get transfers in that are of high cailber. I keep hearing about playing at UD Arena, the fans, the resources, Obi in the NBA, Grant having NBA experience but coaching at his alma mater... so where are the transfers? We have an open scholly even before any other transfers out...
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I fear none of the things you listed matter anymore for most transfers. It is all about the $$$$. How much and how prepared is Dayton to pay for quality transfers?
I read on this site (sorry I forget who posted it but thank you) that former Wright State players Grant Basile is getting $150K in NIL @ VA Tech and Holden $80K @ OSU.
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I fear none of the things you listed matter anymore for most transfers. It is all about the $$$$. How much and how prepared is Dayton to pay for quality transfers?
I read on this site (sorry I forget who posted it but thank you) that former Wright State players Grant Basile is getting $150K in NIL @ VA Tech and Holden $80K @ OSU.
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So we lose players because they cant get the playing time, but cannot get players because of NIL?
Something does not make sense.
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So we lose players because they cant get the playing time, but cannot get players because of NIL?
Something does not make sense.
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I did not say we can not get players because of NIL. I simply asked how prepared and how much is Dayton prepared to pay?
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I did not say we can not get players because of NIL. I simply asked how prepared and how much is Dayton prepared to pay?
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No idea. How many fast food joints on on Brown St?
If NIL is an issue, then it will be for all teams in the A10.
And if we want to avoid the need for transfers, then the staff needs to do a better job recruiting and keeping players.
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I did not say we can not get players because of NIL. I simply asked how prepared and how much is Dayton prepared to pay?
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That’s the $64,000,000 question . . .
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That’s the $64,000,000 question . . .
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I fear none of the things you listed matter anymore for most transfers. It is all about the $$$$. How much and how prepared is Dayton to pay for quality transfers?
I read on this site (sorry I forget who posted it but thank you) that former Wright State players Grant Basile is getting $150K in NIL @ VA Tech and Holden $80K @ OSU.
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Boosters at most schools pay a lot of the coaches salary
At some point a school is going to get a cheap coach and plow that money into NIL
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I am just concerned about AG's contract situation if things don't work out. Some of these colleges and universities operate much differently than the pros as far as these things go. In the pros, if the coach has a couple/few bad seasons, he gets fired, they reach a settlement of some sort, and everybody moves on, and nobody really gets hurt IMO.
But in college ball, sometimes they give out these crazy contracts that are kind of lifetime contracts, or they give out these crazy-long contract extensions. Those contracts can cripple a program if things go south in terms of there being not enough $ to hire the next coach because you are still paying the old coach. I get that the school wants to protect their investment in the coach, but the schools get jobbed if things go south.
BG left UD for GT in the spring of 2011, but he was still under contract at UD thru the 2017-2018 season. That is another 7 seasons! And he never delivered a 1 or 2 seed.
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University of Dayton Vice President and Director of Athletics Tim Wabler has announced that the University has extended head men's basketball coach Brian Gregory's contract for an additional five years, and that it will run through the 2017-18 season. Financial terms of the contract were not disclosed.
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I am just concerned about AG's contract situation if things don't work out. Some of these colleges and universities operate much differently than the pros as far as these things go. In the pros, if the coach has a couple/few bad seasons, he gets fired, they reach a settlement of some sort, and everybody moves on, and nobody really gets hurt IMO.
But in college ball, sometimes they give out these crazy contracts that are kind of lifetime contracts, or they give out these crazy-long contract extensions. Those contracts can cripple a program if things go south in terms of there being not enough $ to hire the next coach because you are still paying the old coach. I get that the school wants to protect their investment in the coach, but the schools get jobbed if things go south.
BG left UD for GT in the spring of 2011, but he was still under contract at UD thru the 2017-2018 season. That is another 7 seasons! And he never delivered a 1 or 2 seed.
https://atlantic10.com/news/2009/5/6/208913748.aspx:
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University of Dayton Vice President and Director of Athletics Tim Wabler has announced that the University has extended head men's basketball coach Brian Gregory's contract for an additional five years, and that it will run through the 2017-18 season. Financial terms of the contract were not disclosed.
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AG will be here until the big money guys say he isn't. This isn't glad handed. He has to perform.
Wabler was out of touch and an excuse maker. Neil is a doer. I think Neil is in touch with a timeline of when things aren't acceptable.
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AG will be here until the big money guys say he isn't. This isn't glad handed. He has to perform.
Wabler was out of touch and an excuse maker. Neil is a doer. I think Neil is in touch with a timeline of when things aren't acceptable.
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Originally Posted by ud2
I am just concerned about AG's contract situation if things don't work out. Some of these colleges and universities operate much differently than the pros as far as these things go. In the pros, if the coach has a couple/few bad seasons, he gets fired, they reach a settlement of some sort, and everybody moves on, and nobody really gets hurt IMO.
But in college ball, sometimes they give out these crazy contracts that are kind of lifetime contracts, or they give out these crazy-long contract extensions. Those contracts can cripple a program if things go south in terms of there being not enough $ to hire the next coach because you are still paying the old coach. I get that the school wants to protect their investment in the coach, but the schools get jobbed if things go south.
BG left UD for GT in the spring of 2011, but he was still under contract at UD thru the 2017-2018 season. That is another 7 seasons! And he never delivered a 1 or 2 seed.
https://atlantic10.com/news/2009/5/6/208913748.aspx:
May 6, 2009
University of Dayton Vice President and Director of Athletics Tim Wabler has announced that the University has extended head men's basketball coach Brian Gregory's contract for an additional five years, and that it will run through the 2017-18 season. Financial terms of the contract were not disclosed.
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BG and AM both quit and left for elsewhere, so they were not owed anything. BG may have been paid something and asked to leave, but we have no idea.
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Well I guess it is good thing that things are working out. AG will be our coach for the next 10+ years.
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Well I guess it is good thing that things are working out. AG will be our coach for the next 10+ years.
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I don't see anything wrong with Anthony Grant being here another 10+ years. His morals are good. He is a good representative for the University of Dayton. He is a great recruiter (a lot better than the past four coaches we have had, especially Jim O'Brien!) Purnell, Gregory and Miller were all good but I feel were one step below AG because they didn't ever attempt to go after 4 and 5 star players. We wouldn't have DaRon Holmes or Toumani Camara right now if AG thought he didn't have a chance of recruiting them. I know Holmes wanted to come here but you can't tell me Anthony didn't have a big influence as well!
This season is not over yet and I know there are some on here that think we should have a few more NCAAT appearances but coaching is not easy. AG cannot be held responsible for the rash of injuries we've had. We are turning the corner and in a couple of weeks we will have the full team healthy for the first time. I enjoy going to the games and enjoy watching the basketball talents of the young men on this team that Anthony has assembled. Right now, thats as much as I ask as a season ticket holder!
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I don't see anything wrong with Anthony Grant being here another 10+ years. His morals are good. He is a good representative for the University of Dayton. He is a great recruiter (a lot better than the past four coaches we have had, especially Jim O'Brien!) Purnell, Gregory and Miller were all good but I feel were one step below AG because they didn't ever attempt to go after 4 and 5 star players. We wouldn't have DaRon Holmes or Toumani Camara right now if AG thought he didn't have a chance of recruiting them. I know Holmes wanted to come here but you can't tell me Anthony didn't have a big influence as well!
This season is not over yet and I know there are some on here that think we should have a few more NCAAT appearances but coaching is not easy. AG cannot be held responsible for the rash of injuries we've had. We are turning the corner and in a couple of weeks we will have the full team healthy for the first time. I enjoy going to the games and enjoy watching the basketball talents of the young men on this team that Anthony has assembled. Right now, thats as much as I ask as a season ticket holder!
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Yep, they always say it's better to have a coach who gets better recruits that get you to the NIT than one who gets lesser ones to the NCAA.
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Yep, they always say it's better to have a coach who gets better recruits that get you to the NIT than one who gets lesser ones to the NCAA.
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Well, I know of one coach in the A10 who's team stands at 4-8 and I'm sure right now he's dreaming of the NIT. But really, there's no excuse for a 4-8 record. I mean, if you're that good a coach, it shouldn't matter who you have as recruits right? I mean, if you have "lesser" recruits, it shouldn't matter who you're putting on the court, they're just not getting it done, nor is this coach at this point.
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Well, I know of one coach in the A10 who's team stands at 4-8 and I'm sure right now he's dreaming of the NIT. But really, there's no excuse for a 4-8 record. I mean, if you're that good a coach, it shouldn't matter who you have as recruits right? I mean, if you have "lesser" recruits, it shouldn't matter who you're putting on the court, they're just not getting it done, nor is this coach at this point.
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RI 2021-2022: 15-16
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He is starting in a hole.
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Well, I know of one coach in the A10 who's team stands at 4-8 and I'm sure right now he's dreaming of the NIT. But really, there's no excuse for a 4-8 record. I mean, if you're that good a coach, it shouldn't matter who you have as recruits right? I mean, if you have "lesser" recruits, it shouldn't matter who you're putting on the court, they're just not getting it done, nor is this coach at this point.
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Come on, they've had a brutal schedule. We are talking losses to some powerhouse programs such as Quinnipiac, Brown, Texas State, and Georgia State.
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Come on, they've had a brutal schedule. We are talking losses to some powerhouse programs such as Quinnipiac, Brown, Texas State, and Georgia State.
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So funny, coming into a program that's a shambles and has a bare cupboard that is real, not one with X. Williams, John Crosby, Darrell Davis, Josh Cunningham, Trey Landers and Ryan Mikesell along with 5 recruits where 3 of them chose to stay. But I guess AG couldn't handle it because there was no true center, and I'm sure the reason there wasn't one is also blamed on AM, you know Big Steve?
The bare cupboard bs never held water.
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So funny, coming into a program that's a shambles and has a bare cupboard that is real, not one with X. Williams, John Crosby, Darrell Davis, Josh Cunningham, Trey Landers and Ryan Mikesell along with 5 recruits where 3 of them chose to stay. But I guess AG couldn't handle it because there was no true center, and I'm sure the reason there wasn't one is also blamed on AM, you know Big Steve?
The bare cupboard bs never held water.
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Cupboard was bare with AM recruits and attitudes. AG had to right the ship to the Chagrin of at least 2 of AMs guys and 1 of his own.
That aside, with today's portal, AM has 0 excuse for being 4-8 with the loses he has incurred. Also, 4-8 is way worse than what AG did in his first bare cupboard non-conference so nothing to see but lots of apples to oranges here.
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Cupboard was bare with AM recruits and attitudes. AG had to right the ship to the Chagrin of at least 2 of AMs guys and 1 of his own.
That aside, with today's portal, AM has 0 excuse for being 4-8 with the loses he has incurred. Also, 4-8 is way worse than what AG did in his first bare cupboard non-conference so nothing to see but lots of apples to oranges here.
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Yes, let me reemphasize my point. Bare Cupboard 2022-2023 at Rhode Island. Experience quality players that AG begged to stay on and then pushed an authoritative style from the get go to cause resentment 2017-2018 at UD. The cupboard was bare at UD because AG decided to break all the cups instead of slowly replacing them with his own cups.
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Yes, let me reemphasize my point. Bare Cupboard 2022-2023 at Rhode Island. Experience quality players that AG begged to stay on and then pushed an authoritative style from the get go to cause resentment 2017-2018 at UD. The cupboard was bare at UD because AG decided to break all the cups instead of slowly replacing them with his own cups.
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No excuses, sorry. There are literally thousands of players in the transfer portal; you're saying AM can't get a few blue chip players to follow him up there at RI? After all the successes he could boast about while at UD? I thought he could do more with less?
As far as CAG "pushing an authoritative style from the get go" to cause resentment...ygbfkm. You're a new coach but you're going to allow a pouting 21 year old 6'7" forward to continue to shoot 3's when as a career he was maybe a 30% 3 point shooter? That same player that skipped practices so that he could hone his Fortnight game playing skills? AG "broke" all the cups to get his team playing his way, not allowing former AM players to dictate the rules. I mean, Arch was a legend but you gotta be your own coach.
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One person, takes what he's got, evaluates, builds his own team from there. The other begs everyone to stay, then immediately takes an ax to the ones he doesnt want and then throws things against the wall and sees what sticks.
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Originally Posted by Smitty10
So funny, coming into a program that's a shambles and has a bare cupboard that is real, not one with X. Williams, John Crosby, Darrell Davis, Josh Cunningham, Trey Landers and Ryan Mikesell along with 5 recruits where 3 of them chose to stay. But I guess AG couldn't handle it because there was no true center, and I'm sure the reason there wasn't one is also blamed on AM, you know Big Steve?
The bare cupboard bs never held water.
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ESPN/Lunardi agreed with you. ESPN had UD in their bracketology field in the off-season before Grant's first season at UD. Silly me, I guess all the pro-Grant posters on here are smarter than Lunardi.
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ESPN/Lunardi agreed with you. ESPN had UD in their bracketology field in the off-season before Grant's first season at UD. Silly me, I guess all the pro-Grant posters on here are smarter than Lunardi.
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ESPN/Lunardi agreed with you. ESPN had UD in their bracketology field in the off-season before Grant's first season at UD. Silly me, I guess all the pro-Grant posters on here are smarter than Lunardi.
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I agree, all the pro Grant posters are smarter than Lunardi, and also smarter than the constant anti Grant posters. Questioning situations or specific items in one thing. Grinding axes from the get-go is another.
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lI am sick of hearing all this bs about Grant. He is going nowhere. The University is not about to fire him.
The posters with their incessant criticism are just making it more difficult to recruit and wearing down the morale of the current players. Please, please, back off.
You are singing a song without any background music playing.
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lI am sick of hearing all this bs about Grant. He is going nowhere. The University is not about to fire him.
The posters with their incessant criticism are just making it more difficult to recruit and wearing down the morale of the current players. Please, please, back off.
You are singing a song without any background music playing.
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lol, now that is some twisted logic. The fans complaining about the failures are in turn causing failures.
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Lunardi is a moron; most of us agree on that.
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I agree, all the pro Grant posters are smarter than Lunardi...
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That is the SOP on here. Anytime a national media figure disses the Flyers or says something that goes against the prevailing narrative on here, then the person is an idiot. But, if they complement the Flyers, then that person is a genius. If Lunardi came out next week with a bracket with the Flyers in it, he'd no longer be an idiot.
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Come on, they've had a brutal schedule. We are talking losses to some powerhouse programs such as Quinnipiac, Brown, Texas State, and Georgia State.
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lI am sick of hearing all this bs about Grant. He is going nowhere. The University is not about to fire him.
The posters with their incessant criticism are just making it more difficult to recruit and wearing down the morale of the current players. Please, please, back off.
You are singing a song without any background music playing.
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If you continue to blow smoke up their butt then we can expect a Final Four appearance per this logic
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Has Dayton had more than 1 game with a full roster this year? Let's talk after the starting point guard has been healthy for 10 straight games.
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That is the SOP on here. Anytime a national media figure disses the Flyers or says something that goes against the prevailing narrative on here, then the person is an idiot. But, if they complement the Flyers, then that person is a genius. If Lunardi came out next week with a bracket with the Flyers in it, he'd no longer be an idiot.
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First of all Lunardi wouldn’t ever do that unless UD was in the top 25 like all of 19-20, or had a Rudy Flyer flapping his wings all game long like St. Joe. Under almost every circumstance Lunardi is an annoying moron. Merry Christmas everyone
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First of all Lunardi wouldn’t ever do that unless UD was in the top 25 like all of 19-20, or had a Rudy Flyer flapping his wings all game long like St. Joe. Under almost every circumstance Lunardi is an annoying moron. Merry Christmas everyone
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Originally Posted by longtimefan67
Lunardi is a moron; most of us agree on that.
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Originally Posted by longtimefan67
First of all Lunardi wouldn’t ever do that unless UD was in the top 25 like all of 19-20, or had a Rudy Flyer flapping his wings all game long like St. Joe. Under almost every circumstance Lunardi is an annoying moron. Merry Christmas everyone
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https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...ld-predictions
Lunardi has UD as a 13-seed this morning...NET rankings or not, he's your buddy now.
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Somebody from the A-10 has to get invited. Lunardi picks the Flyers to win the tournement and the AQ bid. He is also saying the A-10 is a one bid league
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A10 a one bid league is one thing... a one bid league with as a 13 seed is like the Ivy League or something... Crazy. Let's hope this is not the case.
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Originally Posted by UD62
Somebody from the A-10 has to get invited. Lunardi picks the Flyers to win the tournement and the AQ bid. He is also saying the A-10 is a one bid league
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It's my understanding that Lunardi having Dayton IN his bracket doesn't mean he's picking the Flyers to win the A10 Tournament. He doesn't project any conference tournament winners. For One-Bid leagues, which the A10 will most likely remain for the rest of the season, I believe he picks either whoever is in first place in the league standings or whoever has the best NET ranking. Since there aren't any conference standings yet, it defaults to the Flyers due the best NET ranking right now.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER
It's my understanding that Lunardi having Dayton IN his bracket doesn't mean he's picking the Flyers to win the A10 Tournament. He doesn't project any conference tournament winners. For One-Bid leagues, which the A10 will most likely remain for the rest of the season, I believe he picks either whoever is in first place in the league standings or whoever has the best NET ranking. Since there aren't any conference standings yet, it defaults to the Flyers due the best NET ranking right now.
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If you look at the bracket, it has an"aq" next to Dayton. He is picking UD to win the tournement and secure the automatic bid. He is also saying it is the only way an A-10 team gets in this year.
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This has be to be the worst season for a conference UD has played in since joining a league
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
This has be to be the worst season for a conference UD has played in since joining a league
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Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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I think this only confirms what we already knew. Have to win the A-10 tournament in order to get invited to the dance.
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Originally Posted by UD62
If you look at the bracket, it has an"aq" next to Dayton. He is picking UD to win the tournement and secure the automatic bid. He is also saying it is the only way an A-10 team gets in this year.
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A little bit of semantics perhaps, but Lunardi is NOT predicting UD to win the A10 tournament. Nor is he predicting ANYONE will win their conference tournaments with this bracket projection. The one bid conferences, he's defaulting to the current standings or the NET ratings to "award" that position in his bracket. That position (A10 AQ) in his bracket will be very fluid as conference play starts and gets a couple of weeks under its belt. Just understand that unless a team takes control of the standings from the outset, Joe will be "predicting" a different winner of the A10 tournAment about 5 or 6 times throughout conference play.
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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek
I think this only confirms what we already knew. Have to win the A-10 tournament in order to get invited to the dance.
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I'm going to be the contrarian here - I think the A-10 could get two bids IF one team dominates the conference but stumbles in the tournament.
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Obviously, we disagree. The A-10 is very weak this year. How many Quad 1 or 2 wins does the A-10 have this year? The league has not performed very well in out of conference games.
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Originally Posted by Glen Clark
I'm going to be the contrarian here - I think the A-10 could get two bids IF one team dominates the conference but stumbles in the tournament.
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This remains a real longshot. Would be like winning a 6 or 7 team parlay.
-You need UD AND SLU to both get into the Top 75 (NET) AND stay there
-You need at least one, if not two, of VCU, Duquesne and Mason to sneak into the Top 75
-You need Davidson to get into the Top 135
-You need Fordham to stay at or near 100
-You need SLU and Dayton to win 14 or 15 league games
-You need someone other than SLU or Dayton to win the A10T
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Originally Posted by Glen Clark
I'm going to be the contrarian here - I think the A-10 could get two bids IF one team dominates the conference but stumbles in the tournament.
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Shorter summary, you need to get like 6 or 7 teams (outside of SLU and Dayton) to stay or get inside the Top 135 of the NET, and stay no worse than the Top 160. Teams like Fordham, Mason, UMass, VCU, Duquesne, Richmond and Davidson. Those two numbers represent the cut points for an away Q2 win and the difference between a Q3 and Q4 home win.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER
This remains a real longshot. Would be like winning a 6 or 7 team parlay.
-You need UD AND SLU to both get into the Top 75 (NET) AND stay there
-You need at least one, if not two, of VCU, Duquesne and Mason to sneak into the Top 75
-You need Davidson to get into the Top 135
-You need Fordham to stay at or near 100
-You need SLU and Dayton to win 14 or 15 league games
-You need someone other than SLU or Dayton to win the A10T
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He didn’t say three teams. He said two. I agree. If UD goes 16-2 or 17-1 and then loses in the A10 finals, I think they make the NCAA as an at large team. I think the committee would see a team on the rise and would look at the non conference and see a depleted team who lost to Wisconsin by 1, BYU in OT, and at UNLV with one of their top players not playing in the second half. Call me crazy.
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Ok u crazy ! U think this team is going 17-1 or 16-2, that’s the crazy part, you’re drinking the kool aid man, e we are beating a bunch of bums the last 2 weeks
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Originally Posted by springborofan
He didn’t say three teams. He said two. I agree. If UD goes 16-2 or 17-1 and then loses in the A10 finals, I think they make the NCAA as an at large team. I think the committee would see a team on the rise and would look at the non conference and see a depleted team who lost to Wisconsin by 1, BYU in OT, and at UNLV with one of their top players not playing in the second half. Call me crazy.
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What makes you think I was angling or projecting for three teams?
My suggested/needed scenario(s) were all based on having at least ONE team ( SLU or Dayton, logically) earn enough opportunities at some quality wins in conference play to merit a legit discussion as an at-large.
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Lunardi has My Team as a 12-seed this morning. Let the b*tching and complaining begin!
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I wouldn't read too much into this. We are the sole representative of the A10 in the bracket. This basically means he projects UD to punch their ticket by winning the A10 post-season tournament. Hard to argue with his logic based on results to date. It's better than not being included, but not by much.
We just need to keep winning our way through the A10 and see what happens after we rattle off a handful of wins. I think we are finally playing like a team that belongs in the tournament, but we need a respectable record going forward to get a serious look.
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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek
I think this only confirms what we already knew. Have to win the A-10 tournament in order to get invited to the dance.
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possibly
I can think of a couple scenarios where there
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Originally Posted by steverino015
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I can think of a couple scenarios where there
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Agree. The bubble at selection time (not 1-2 games into the conference season) has been very weak the past 2 years. Plenty can happen in the next 16 games to improve our lot.
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