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Jon Rothstein at UD today

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Greetings from Dayton. Here to visit with the Flyers. Year One of the Anthony Grant era.

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Dayton's Kostas Antetokounmpo (knee) is expected to be ready for the start of the season, per Anthony Grant.

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The big theme right now out of Dayton? Limited depth. Flyers are beyond short handed from a personnel standpoint. A program in transition.

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Expect Dayton to slide Xeryius Williams to small forward in year one under Anthony Grant. Flyers have limited options at the 3 spot.

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Dayton needs Josh Cunningham to play like a first team All-A 10 caliber player and for several other guys to have breakout years. New era.

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Early prediction on Dayton's starting five: John Crosby, Darrell Davis, Xeryius Williams, Josh Cunningham, Kostas Antetokounmpo.

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Remember the name Jordan Davis. Freshman guard can really shoot it and will log major minutes for Dayton. Could be a big help offensively.

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Hard to remember a year where the Atlantic 10 was this wide open at the top. League needs to make as much hay possible in Nov. & Dec.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:28 PM
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Love his statement about Jordan Davis. I think the kid will be a big contributor from day1.
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Williams sliding over to SF is a surprise to me! I know some on the board predicted that. I love having Williams, Kostas and Josh on the floor at the same time. Not a good sign for expectations on Svoboda.
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In that lineup X and Kostas are probably fairly interchangeable. Assuming X is the more polished shooter at this stage and Kostas' wing span (shot blocking) it makes sense, but Cunningham is more of the center insofar as post presence and rebounding.
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IMO, expecting Kostas to be a starter, or even a major contributor, is expecting a whole lot.

I would temper those expectations.
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IMO, expecting Kostas to be a starter, or even a major contributor, is expecting a whole lot.

I would temper those expectations.
I don't know, but I'm guessing that the sentiment came from AG's observations watching the guys play so it's not totally out in left field.
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I don't know, but I'm guessing that the sentiment came from AG's observations watching the guys play so it's not totally out in left field.
Agree. I am just uncertain about the impact of his injury.
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Grant does not want folks to know how good Matej is I believe he sorta wants to unleash him at Charleston!!
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Williams sliding over to SF is a surprise to me! I know some on the board predicted that. I love having Williams, Kostas and Josh on the floor at the same time. Not a good sign for expectations on Svoboda.
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Because he's not a starter? I expect Svoboda took get plenty of minutes.
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I don't think Rothstein watched them practice
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Because he's not a starter? I expect Svoboda took get plenty of minutes.
You are probably right - Maybe I was reading too much into it - the “limited options” part. Maybe it means don’t expect D Davis or Trey Landers to log many minutes there.
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"Limited depth" can also mean limited experienced players, but said in a clumsy way.

At Duke the freshmen are ready and expected to play right away, at UD some of the sophomores still have unanswered questions. Trey Landers is a good example.

Or, he really did mean limited depth.
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Grant does not want folks to know how good Matej is I believe he sorta wants to unleash him at Charleston!!
Shawnee2: From where are you getting this "unleash" idea? Sorry, but i gotta' challenge you on this statement?
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Rothstein's prediction on the starting five has little to do with the reality of who plays the most minutes this year.
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Gotta believe starting 5 based upon Grant's input, he did not make it up. But as said, starting 5 does not equal most playing time.
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Challenge all you want but my educated opinion is he gets plenty of playing time and surprises people because he is an unknown quantity!!!!!!!
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If AG can cobble together an NIT bid this year, we should be beyond ecstatic. Will not be easy.
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I can't really say if any particular incoming player will make a big splash this year; however, I can say, it is very possible that shawnee2 gets their information directly from the team huddle, or one mouth removed...just saying. That's my FYI to you!
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If AG can cobble together an NIT bid this year, we should be beyond ecstatic. Will not be easy.
FWIW, I saw that we dropped to 5th place in the overall roster player rankings. So, per that ranking, a NIT bid seems about right.

I think it is interesting that SBU is 2nd to last, but is projected to make the NCAAT this year. VCU is 6th and is projected as a NCAAT contender this year by some.

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Given all the untested players on out roster, I believe it is hard to get an accurate preseason ranking on the overall roster of the Flyers this year. 5th could be correct, but it is a real guessing game this year. This is just another date point is a sea of datepoints that really don't mean anything. Only data point that really means anything is the W-L record at the end of the regular season, and this year the W-L for the Flyers is harder to predict than in past years.

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. . . Only data point that really means anything is the W-L record at the end of the regular season, and this year the W-L for the Flyers is harder to predict than in past years.

Winning the A-10 Tournament fixes everything.

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FWIW, I saw that we dropped to 5th place in the overall roster player rankings. So, per that ranking, a NIT bid seems about right.

I think it is interesting that SBU is 2nd to last, but is projected to make the NCAAT this year. VCU is 6th and is projected as a NCAAT contender this year by some.

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If this doesn't take into consideration the class of the player it means nothing. A three-star senior is a lot different than a three-star freshman. And in many cases stars don't mean that much anyway.
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crosby and DD are our weakest set of starters in some time. However, who knows perhaps John can surprise us and show maturity, hutzpah, and play defense. Most teams go, according to their PG.

I am most stoked about Svoboda. On paper , he's mature and ready. We'll see how he fits into an AG team... how quick he can grasp it or not.

WE DO need big year from Cunningham. I expect a good year from X Williams.

Kostas can't expect much from, but would be some nice gravy if he provide some explosiveness, numbers and excitement!

That leaves guys like Trey Landers, Jordan Davis as huge question marks. We got lotsa question marks this year. Cohesiveness, defense, and some rapid growth from sophs and others need to happen!
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Kostas can't expect much from, but would be some nice gravy if he provide some explosiveness, numbers and excitement!
Kostas is a top 100 recruit that has had a year to get acclimated to college, as well as go through the college weight room program. He has been shooting and running for awhile now since his injury. Reports 2 weeks ago were he would be back in contact drills soon and would 100% when the season starts. I think it is plenty fair to have some lofty expectations from him.
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I expect Kostas, Xeryius, and Josh to be our best players.
I expect one of the true freshman to surprise - Jordan Davis? - and the other three to be good off the bench.
I feel like we already know D Davis and Crosby.
Landers - should be interesting to see if he makes big strides.
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I expect Kostas, Xeryius, and Josh to be our best players.
I expect one of the true freshman to surprise - Jordan Davis? - and the other three to be good off the bench.
I feel like we already know D Davis and Crosby.
Landers - should be interesting to see if he makes big strides.
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I think we know what we're going to get with DD, which is good but not exceptional. And that's OK. Not everyone is a borderline NBA talent. It's not fair to expect every 2 guard to light up his senior year (not that you're saying that).

But with Crosby I see so many sparks that if he could just get the right confidence level he could really take a leap forward. I don't think we've seen his best days yet, by a long shot.
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I expect Kostas, Xeryius, and Josh to be our best players.
I expect one of the true freshman to surprise - Jordan Davis? - and the other three to be good off the bench.
I feel like we already know D Davis and Crosby.
Landers - should be interesting to see if he makes big strides.
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This feels like a post that I'll perhaps regret, but...

I think some of you are sleeping on Darrell Davis. His defense really improved last year, and was legit lights-out vs a very talented Wichita St team. I like all of his quotes from this summer, and he's the lone senior contributor. I'm not expecting all A-10, but I really think he'll be a fine starter at SG
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I think we know what we're going to get with DD, which is good but not exceptional. And that's OK. Not everyone is a borderline NBA talent. It's not fair to expect every 2 guard to light up his senior year (not that you're saying that).

But with Crosby I see so many sparks that if he could just get the right confidence level he could really take a leap forward. I don't think we've seen his best days yet, by a long shot.
I respect your opinion but I'm afraid his mediocrity will be exposed and possibly exploited, given the fact that there are no go-to players left after last graduation. He's possibly your 2nd outlet after XW and I'm afraid he won't shine with more responsibility.
You should be right about Crosby because he has more talent than the results have shown. However I believe he has shown his ceiling isn't what was thought to be. I'm not going to bash anyone, as some like to call it, but he has areaS that he's struggled in. As a pg decision-making should be in your top two attributes if you're not an insane-athlete, imo.
The two players are very similar in makeup, imo.
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I hope you're proven wrong. Seniors (especially those who haven't lived up to their own career expectations) take an aggressive...almost grudge-like passion/desperation into their senior year. DD wants to leave his own legacy.

Last year DD played with 4 seniors who dominated and frequently demanded the ball (after all there is only one in most organized basketball games).

Devon O did it. I think the poster child for that was Dan Sadlier (which of course only 5% of you could remember). He went from a fine player to the go-to (MVP) guy.

I thoroughly expect a great season from DD. I think he will have a new strut of confidence based on the current situation. Go DD !!!!!! Remember this prediction - "He will be UD's MVP" (BTW if I am wrong UD will have the season from Hell)

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I think some of you are sleeping on Darrell Davis.
Was thinking the same about Trey Landers. He may end up with 6-8 ppg. Seems to have a knack to find the bucket.
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Trey Landers seems like a real wildcard. He was mostly forgettable last year, but he has good size for a wing and may surprise some with some inside scoring and rebounding. I could see him anywhere between becoming a go to 6th man or playing 3 minutes a game.
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I am optimistic about Landers as well, especially in Coach Grant's full-court game. Landers is quick, strong, and has the potential to be an outstanding defender. My concern with him is ball-handling and finishing around the hoop. These are both correctable items. I think that injury he had last year was a big setback for him.
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Would not be shocked at all if either Trey Landers or Matej Svoboda logs more minutes this year than Kostas. Literally no ceiling on Kostas' upside but it's going to take more time than most think in my humble opinion.
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Would not be shocked at all if either Trey Landers or Matej Svoboda logs more minutes this year than Kostas. Literally no ceiling on Kostas' upside but it's going to take more time than most think in my humble opinion.
Especially since Kostas hasn't worked out a lot with the team. He went to play with the Greek team this summer, then got hurt and still is not cleared for contact.

Like Archie's first year, I think this team may score more points than we have seen but give up more.
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Landers has to greatly improve his defense. 17 fouls in 52 minutes give indication that he was out of position as a defender, and not moving his feet. Some say he was injured last year, so we shall see.
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Landers has to greatly improve his defense. 17 fouls in 52 minutes give indication that he was out of position as a defender, and not moving his feet. Some say he was injured last year, so we shall see.
17 fouls in 52 minutes ... I wonder how that stacks up against others ... Figstats to the rescue!

(1976-77 is the earliest year with minutes reported)

Most fouls per minute - Career (minimum 50 minutes played)
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      player       | fls | mins | fls_per_min 
-------------------+-----+------+-------------
 Stephen Bamigbola |  73 |  165 |       0.440
 Trey Landers      |  17 |   52 |       0.327
 Cain Doliboa      |  96 |  293 |       0.327
 Sam Miller        | 180 |  583 |       0.308
 Mike Brannen      |  47 |  163 |       0.288
Most fouls per minute - Season (minimum 50 minutes played)
Code:
      player      | year | fls | mins | fls_per_min 
------------------+------+-----+------+-------------
 Sam Miller       | 2015 | 104 |  267 |       0.388
 Mike Brannen     | 1977 |  17 |   51 |       0.333
 Trey Landers     | 2016 |  17 |   52 |       0.327
 Maurice Beyina   | 1993 |  39 |  133 |       0.293
 Steve Smith      | 1984 |  17 |   61 |       0.279
Most fouls per minute - Current Players Career
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        player        | fls | mins | fls_per_min 
----------------------+-----+------+-------------
 Michael Schwieterman |   2 |    1 |       1.000
 Trey Landers         |  17 |   52 |       0.327
 Sam Miller           | 180 |  583 |       0.308
 Ryan Mikesell        | 198 |  841 |       0.235
 Xeyrius Williams     | 222 |  978 |       0.227
 John Crosby          | 136 |  715 |       0.190
 Josh Cunningham      |  24 |  162 |       0.148
 Darrell Davis        | 163 | 1948 |       0.084
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Dallas i have no idea why you think Trey is quick? He is athletic and a really good kid who works hard but please do not get expectations of his ability to the point you will be disappointed. He will work very hard to be the best he can be!
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