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Old 03-22-2021, 10:13 AM
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21-22 season lookahead

EDITED: To reflect Frazier transfer

OK, that year obviously didn’t turn out how anyone wanted, so let’s look ahead.
Here’s what UD has coming back and coming in — and yes, we all know this could change if a senior decides to come back, or if more people transfer, or if UD uses its 2 (or potentially more) available schollys.

G — EWeaver (6-6, Sr) …… MSmith (6-0, Fr)
G — DCohill (6-2, RJr) ……. KBrea (6-6, So) ………. LGreer (6-3, Fr)
F — RJ Blakney (6-6, So) … KWashington (6-8, Fr)
F — MAmzil (6-10, So) …… ZNwokeji (6-7, So)
F — DHolmes (6-8, Fr) …… MSissoko (6-9, RSo)

The “don’t rock the boat lineup” might be Weaver-Cohill-(Zimi or RJ)-Amzil-Holmes … with the other of Zimi/RJ as sixth man, Kaleb Washington getting good minutes, and everyone else (Brea, Sissoko, Frazier, Smith and Greer) fighting for playing time. Others might suggest throwing multiple of the true freshmen into the fire. And of course, everybody has their 1-2 players they’re higher on (or lower on) than most fans are.

A few of many key questions …
1) Will Weaver be good enough at point guard to lead UD to a successful year? Answer — Like every single thing 7 1/2 months from the first game, we don’t know. If it’s the Weaver from Davidson or GMason, the answer is likely yes. If it’s Duquesne or VCU#1 Weaver, maybe not. There’s an obvious question though: If not Weaver, who would do better? At the moment, the only other options are a green freshman, or doing something out-of-the-box like putting Amzil at point forward.

2) Who are the shooters? Over the past two years, Crutcher and Watson have shot a combined 40.6% from three. That’s one of the best duos in the nation. This year, Weaver, Blakney and Brea shot around 35-36% (same as Cohill in 2019-20), while Amzil hit 38% and Zimi 32%. None of them were real high-volume shooters. And we’ll have to see about the true freshmen.

3) Will this team have heart / energy?
I’m not sure the best way to describe this. The 2020-21 Flyers didn’t seem to have the ability to raise their intensity level or find another gear when needed. They didn’t seem to have a leader who was able to rally the team in a crucial moment. They didn’t seem to have a dive-for-loose-balls and win-every-50-50 type of attitude. I really hope they find that for 21-22.

If you made me guess, I would predict the 21-22 Flyers will go through some growing pains, but have the chance to be very good by the end of the season. I see 22-23 as a “strong NCAA seed or bust” type of year. … I hope I’m underselling the season ahead.

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Old 03-22-2021, 11:51 AM
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I'm pretty sure Weaver will be a RJr.
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Technically all of our sophomores next year will still be freshmen eligibility wise
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Originally Posted by Sid Louick View Post
I'm pretty sure Weaver will be a RJr.
Actually, that wouldn't be right I don't think because he never sat out a season. He's a senior just like our freshman from this past season are sophomores. He's a senior with 2 years of eligibility left while they are sophomores with 4 more yeas of eligibility.
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How about loading up on a couple additional exhibition games in fall 2021? Would be very helpful with team chemistry and CAG can see what we have.

Also- can anyone advise which of the exempt preseason tournaments our guys will be in November 2021? I presume a ESPN tournament of some type.
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Interesting, but I think it's a bit premature, until we see what the final roster looks like. I don't think it will look like the original post.
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Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan View Post
Technically all of our sophomores next year will still be freshmen eligibility wise
I listed everyone's year in school the traditional way. I can't find a link to the NCAA language right now, but I believe the way they phrase it is that any player who "used" a year of eligibility in 2020-21 will have the option of an extra year of eligibility "after their fourth playing season."
The way Smitty said it is also accurate.
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Interesting, but I think it's a bit premature, until we see what the final roster looks like. I don't think it will look like the original post.
Of course it's premature -- it's a fan message board, that's what we're good at! Gotta have something to talk about for the next 7 months.
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Originally Posted by Smitty10 View Post
Actually, that wouldn't be right I don't think because he never sat out a season. He's a senior just like our freshman from this past season are sophomores. He's a senior with 2 years of eligibility left while they are sophomores with 4 more yeas of eligibility.
I think the prior posters are just trying to use familiar lexicon to capture how many more years of eligibility each has. Using your approach, Sissoko will be a Jr. with FOUR years of eligibility left. Itís hard to keep track that way. Using the R to denote the redshirt year everyone got is a good way to keep track of last year while splitting up the incoming Freshmen from the Freshmen this year. (I guess Sissoko and Nkowkeji are both RR Freshmen since they got two years of redshirting!)
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Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
i think the prior posters are just trying to use familiar lexicon to capture how many more years of eligibility each has. Using your approach, sissoko will be a jr. With four years of eligibility left. It’s hard to keep track that way. Using the r to denote the redshirt year everyone got is a good way to keep track of last year while splitting up the incoming freshmen from the freshmen this year. (i guess sissoko and nkowkeji are both rr freshmen since they got two years of redshirting!)
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I think the prior posters are just trying to use familiar lexicon to capture how many more years of eligibility each has. Using your approach, Sissoko will be a Jr. with FOUR years of eligibility left. Itís hard to keep track that way. Using the R to denote the redshirt year everyone got is a good way to keep track of last year while splitting up the incoming Freshmen from the Freshmen this year. (I guess Sissoko and Nkowkeji are both RR Freshmen since they got two years of redshirting!)
Actually Sissoko would be a red shirt Sophomore with 4 years of eligibility left lol
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I view Holmes and Greer as potential new vocal leaders, especially Greer.

OP, what you said about lack of heart/energy in point #3 resonates with me. Losing Treyís energy and leadership hurt us significantly this year. Too often I felt that we lost because the guys never found that next level of intensity.

If nothing else, next year, we cannot lose because we lack heart.
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Sorry for any confusion in the original post, but FYI, for this particular team, eligibility year is about the least important thing.
Everybody has multiple years left if they want it (Cohill and Weaver 2 years each, everybody else 4 years each).
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I think next year will be pretty simple. If you want to play you will need to excel at defense. In theory, I could see us much like Memphis.
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I view Holmes and Greer as potential new vocal leaders, especially Greer.

OP, what you said about lack of heart/energy in point #3 resonates with me. Losing Treyís energy and leadership hurt us significantly this year. Too often I felt that we lost because the guys never found that next level of intensity.

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I really hope we are not relying on true freshman to be vocal leaders of the team, that rarely ends up well.
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I really hope we are not relying on true freshman to be vocal leaders of the team, that rarely ends up well.
I think normally that is true because of the jr/sr hierarchy that is usually in place with established leaders good or bad. This team has zero returning leaders so a natural leader as a freshman could step in and be effective.

From what Iíve seen of him, appears Mali could be that kind of vocal leader if he can earn the starting spot.
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I see RJ as a future leader!
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in his freshman year, I saw Doug
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Elijah Weaver is looking forward to being a leader on next yearís young UD squad:

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I predict Greer will be stud like by season end or early Soph year. These newbies are HARD not to like.

Add Amzil, Simi, experienced Weaver. With Cohill back. Just need something from our front line. All the other positions we are in great shape.
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Excuse please

Please excuse the ignorance. But what about the seniors? Didn't the NCAA grant an extra year for all seniors who wanted it? What am I missing here?
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Jordy has announced he is leaving and Chatman is in the portal. No one expects Crutcher to return and Ibi has not said anything. Although neither has put his name in the portal, yet. Most don't think any will return.
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yep, the one who hasn't announced his intention
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I think the most important thing for next season is getting the freshman on campus in June and being able to have summer conditioning & practices. With so many new guys and young players this where the player development happens and team chemistry gets built
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I think the most important thing for next season is getting the freshman on campus in June and being able to have summer conditioning & practices. With so many new guys and young players this where the player development happens and team chemistry gets built
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This is a major reason why I discount this past covid riddled season. We had too many headwinds the new arrivals had to deal with such as losing the summer, then pre-season, then injuries to some vets. We still came close but our inconsistency just could not be overcome....

Let's try to add additional exhibition games in the fall....
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Let's try to add additional exhibition games in the fall....

You can only have two, or one exhibition game and a "secret" scrimmage. The last few years (pre-covid) we have had one of each. In prior years we had two exhibition games.
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Iím sure impossible with covid but this would have been the perfect year for an August overseas trip
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Red and Blue game this fall?
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Will Weaver turn into the leader every team needs?
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One of the things that was severely lacking in this year's team was offensive rebounding. "The Hometown Coach" Mark Adams has developed an app called Focus that tracks effort. Here's a 3 minute video of him explaining how it works in reference to the Houston Cougars and their relentless pursuit of O boards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFAJtwnqvGg&t=1s

Maybe Anthony should give Mark a call, no?
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I like what I'm reading/hearing and it was certainly nice for him to have the game he did against Memphis. Big-time school he knows he can play well against, 4-4 from 3's and last game of the year to end it on. Kind of like sinking the 20 footer for birdie on the 18th even though the round was average at best.
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Kind of like sinking the 20 footer for birdie on the 18th even though the round was average at best.
I know not of which you speak...(and not because my rounds are above average)
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I like what I'm reading/hearing and it was certainly nice for him to have the game he did against Memphis. Big-time school he knows he can play well against, 4-4 from 3's and last game of the year to end it on. Kind of like sinking the 20 footer for birdie on the 18th even though the round was average at best.
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I like what I'm reading/hearing and it was certainly nice for him to have the game he did against Memphis. Big-time school he knows he can play well against, 4-4 from 3's and last game of the year to end it on. Kind of like sinking the 20 footer for birdie on the 18th even though the round was average at best.
.... and carries over to the next round,
where his consistency and overall play
moves up a level.

kind of like that, we hope...
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows View Post
One of the things that was severely lacking in this year's team was offensive rebounding. "The Hometown Coach" Mark Adams has developed an app called Focus that tracks effort. Here's a 3 minute video of him explaining how it works in reference to the Houston Cougars and their relentless pursuit of O boards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFAJtwnqvGg&t=1s

Maybe Anthony should give Mark a call, no?
I understand there are metrics that suggest stopping the fast break is critical. What I don't understand is when teams send ZERO players to the offensive glass, and in fact, have all five guys already retreating as the shot is in the air. Why not have a system that encourages 1 or 2 to chase the offensive rebound, assuming that having 3-4 guys in retreat-and-defend mode is plenty to ensure decent transition defense?
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Re: in season espn tournament, we need to find one. Other than Twitter, here’s a link to follow:

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Orlando Invitational
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It should be Orlando - but they really need to announce ASAP before Southwest opens up November for ticket sales.
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Indeed playing in Orlando, loaded field:

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This is a good field. I would like to have another showdown with Kansas.
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Indeed playing in Orlando, loaded field:

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Interesting article from Busting Brackets on the Camara transfer and what it means.
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