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[lhsgolf19]

Big Time transfer get for the staff, nearly committed to us outta high school... Instant Starter at the 4 for us.

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The 6'8" 220 lb Belgian Forward broke out this year as a Sophomore at UGA with about 13 PPG and a team leading 7.7 RPG... Big Time athlete with an improving jump shot.

With the extra year, it seems like we get him for potentially 3 years.

Awesome Job by AG and Crew!

[TommyGola]

When would Toumani be able to play? 2021????

[hawkoooo]

I know it's been said many times many ways....

But will he have to sit out a year?

[lhsgolf19]

No he won't have to sit out... instant eligibility for everyone

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 No he won't have to sit out... instant eligibility for everyone

Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[UDGutter2]

He scored more points (7) against Dayton than Anthony Edwards (6).

[CT Flyer]

This is a game changer for sure...we just went from sort of a rebuilding year with an outside chance to make the tourney to a reloading year with a very good chance of making the tourney. My expectation now (barring injuries or other crazy scenarios) is that we should make the tourney. Great job by the staff!

[soccergod]

I’m thinking he has 3 years eligibility left ! Anyone want to confirm this ?
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[Flyer 86]

Great pickup!!

[TA111]

With Toumani, DaRon, Kaleb,Mustapha and Zimi, I’m exited for what our frontcourt will do next season. What was a weakness looks like it will be a strength.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by soccergod I’m thinking he has 3 years eligibility left ! Anyone want to confirm this ? Posted via Mobile Device

Correct. He’s played 2 and with everyone getting the freebie year he has 3 years of eligibility.

[Jeff]

Look at his REBOUNDING numbers! Woo hoo!

[lhsgolf19]

Quick reminder, with Camara in the fold, we have one more schollie available.

Would love one more impact guard

[CJ#4]

We have a whole mess of roughly 6-6 to 6-9 guys (Weaver, Brea, Washington, Blakney, Nwokeji, Camara, Holmes, Amzil, Sissoko).
I'll be really interested to see how competition shakes out, what style we try to play, and who fills what roles.

[FlyerinChicago]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Quick reminder, with Camara in the fold, we have one more schollie available. Would love one more impact guard

TyTy? 👀
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[Medford]

@ 6'-8", I wonder how that plays with Holmes and the slew of guys on the roster that are of similar height? As a top 40 recruit, I think many would expect Holmes to get lots of playing time, Zimi, Amzil, MO and Blankney are also fighting for that same time not to mention Washington himself a top 150 recruit.


I can think of worse problems to have, but that is a lot of young men all fighting for time at the 3-5 spots (not to mention that some of those minutes are going to be ate up by guys viewed more as guards in a 3 guard set).

[Medford]

Ha....looks like we all had the same thought about minutes/competition around the same time. Love his rebounding numbers.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by FlyerinChicago TyTy? 👀 Posted via Mobile Device

Doubt it. With today's announcement you can also go ahead and scratch off Parker Fox and Efton Reid.

I'm guessing Rocket Watts is now the #1 target for the remaining scholarship. Don't sleep on Seth Lundy either since he is more of a "small" forward with 3-pt shooting ability. After what he did in the VCU game I'd take him in a heartbeat.

[CJ#4]

Originally Posted by Medford @ 6'-8", I wonder how that plays with Holmes and the slew of guys on the roster that are of similar height? As a top 40 recruit, I think many would expect Holmes to get lots of playing time, Zimi, Amzil, MO and Blankney are also fighting for that same time not to mention Washington himself a top 150 recruit. I can think of worse problems to have, but that is a lot of young men all fighting for time at the 3-5 spots (not to mention that some of those minutes are going to be ate up by guys viewed more as guards in a 3 guard set).

You mention times when we're in a three-guard set. I'll go the other way and say that if they're quick enough defensively, there could be times that Blakney or Washington could get minutes at the 2 spot ...... basically giving us four forwards on the floor.

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Quick reminder, with Camara in the fold, we have one more schollie available. Would love one more impact guard

Rocket Watts

[Medford]

Originally Posted by CJ#4 You mention times when we're in a three-guard set. I'll go the other way and say that if they're quick enough defensively, there could be times that Blakney or Washington could get minutes at the 2 spot ...... basically giving us four forwards on the floor.

Possibly, but I'd also worry about their handle in a 4 "wing" set.

[longtimefan67]

Depth, depth and more depth. I do think we need another PG

[bcross]

Originally Posted by CJ#4 You mention times when we're in a three-guard set. I'll go the other way and say that if they're quick enough defensively, there could be times that Blakney or Washington could get minutes at the 2 spot ...... basically giving us four forwards on the floor.

Yuck.

[Smitty10]

With all these big guys, I'm hoping we see more blocked shots and more denying of open point blank shots by making them earn them at the FT line. Would think that foul trouble won't mean much to us as it truly will be "next man up" when it comes to offense and defense in the paint.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 Depth, depth and more depth. I do think we need another PG

Weaver, Smith and Greer. I think we’re fine.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 With all these big guys, I'm hoping we see more blocked shots and more denying of open point blank shots by making them earn them at the FT line. Would think that foul trouble won't mean much to us as it truly will be "next man up" when it comes to offense and defense in the paint.

Rebounds, rebounds and more rebounds. Probably the main reason for our losses was the opponent getting more shots because of lack of rebounds. Btw, did I mention rebounds?

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by Medford @ 6'-8", I wonder how that plays with Holmes and the slew of guys on the roster that are of similar height? As a top 40 recruit, I think many would expect Holmes to get lots of playing time, Zimi, Amzil, MO and Blankney are also fighting for that same time not to mention Washington himself a top 150 recruit. I can think of worse problems to have, but that is a lot of young men all fighting for time at the 3-5 spots (not to mention that some of those minutes are going to be ate up by guys viewed more as guards in a 3 guard set).

If this is the next time this problem occurs it will be the first time. It’s easy to see 1-2 guys in that mix that may not work their way into the rotation and get the minutes they want or think they deserve. Even if you have 5 guys for 3 spots that’s 24 minutes a game each. Plenty of minutes for 5 young guys to fight for.

If Amzil can improve his lateral quickness I can see him playing the 2 at times if needed. I think RJ could do the same but then the 1-2 start to get crowded as well with only 80 minutes to split.

Positionless BB has worked well for Nova and where AG clearly wants to be. Improve your skills in areas that keep you from fitting that mold and you’ll be fine.
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[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by TA111 Weaver, Smith and Greer. I think we’re fine.

Cohill????

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by TA111 Rebounds, rebounds and more rebounds. Probably the main reason for our losses was the opponent getting more shots because of lack of rebounds. Btw, did I mention rebounds?

See, I agree, rebounding was a problem. I think that improves just with the personnel we have to choose from. I still think our biggest weakness was passing and defensive transition(which indirectly cause us to be terrible on the offensive rebounding side). We need more assists which comes from better passing and less dribble driving(unless that dribble drive results in an assist rather than throwing up prayers and hoping for FTs).

The Flyers need to be a defensive team first and foremost, than a great passing team. From there everything else will fall in place.

[CT Flyer]

I recall for the last three years seeing posts saying we are going to be really deep and people were worried there wouldn't be enough minutes for everybody. That did not materialize over the last three years for a multitude of reasons.

So put me in the boat of if that is what happens that's a great problem to have but I'll only believe it when I see it actually materialize.

[steverino015]

DaRon's coach said we are getting a high
energy defensive player... said he can defend
all 5 positions and do it very well....

now add Camara... along with the others,
Cohill bringing defense...

man oh man....
1 more spot available, I'll say either
Rocket or Seth Lundy. I think Ty Ty
would of announced by now if it was
us... Lundy or Rocket

Go Flyers!

[FlyerinChicago]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Doubt it. With today's announcement you can also go ahead and scratch off Parker Fox and Efton Reid. I'm guessing Rocket Watts is now the #1 target for the remaining scholarship. Don't sleep on Seth Lundy either since he is more of a "small" forward with 3-pt shooting ability. After what he did in the VCU game I'd take him in a heartbeat.

I know TyTy is a long shot, I just think he’s going to be a monster player. We don’t get Efton type players, period. Was never a Fox fan and Rocket doesn’t impress me as anything more than guard depth.
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[Buckleyma]

None of the above comments mentioned Brea who is considered a forward at 6’6”. But, what I saw was a very skinny player who could slip to compete at shooting guard rather than small forward. He seems to handle the ball very well.
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[CvilleFlyer]

No one mentioned Dwayne Cohill. I think he will be a leader and if his defense is as good as it was before his injury he will be another guard that gets the majority of the minutes at the 2 guard! I hope he has been shooting many threes to improve his percentage from there!

Sorry, TommyGola, I missed your post above!

[bcross]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Cohill????

Still trying to make Cohill a PG?

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer I recall for the last three years seeing posts saying we are going to be really deep and people were worried there wouldn't be enough minutes for everybody. That did not materialize over the last three years for a multitude of reasons. So put me in the boat of if that is what happens that's a great problem to have but I'll only believe it when I see it actually materialize.

I think what happens is people look at large freshman class and think depth and then when they go through trial and tribulations that all freshman go through, they think "what happened to all that depth?". As of now, if you subtract our 4 true freshman from the calculation, we have 8 scholarship players that we can no longer give the Freshman pass to(Cohill, Weaver, Amzil, Zimi, Brea, RJ, Sissoko and Camara). We have 4 highly rated Freshman coming in and hopefully at least one or two make an impact sooner than later. So yes, I see real depth as long as injuries don't completely deplete it.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma None of the above comments mentioned Brea who is considered a forward at 6’6”. But, what I saw was a very skinny player who could slip to compete at shooting guard rather than small forward. He seems to handle the ball very well. Posted via Mobile Device

6'6" is the new PG, let alone SG. Brea is a SG or he's on the bench.

If the lineup is Weaver (6'6"), Cohill (6'2"), Brea (6'6"), and Malachai Smith (6'0") at any moment in the game, I'm sorry but that's a 4-guard lineup. If you're not at least 6'7" (and probably 6'8") you're a guard.

[springborofan]

Wow...recruiting hasn’t been an issue that’s for sure. I wonder what the back story is with him at UGA? Obviously playing time wasn’t it.

UD now has two foreign players. When was the last time UD had two foreign players? I guess a couple years ago Svboda and Kostas but Kostas played HS bball in US so does that count? Assuming no, I don’t recall ever having two at one time?

One last question...has UD ever gained a transfer from a power 5 school that averaged 13 and 7? That is rare!

[TA111]

Originally Posted by springborofan Wow...recruiting hasn’t been an issue that’s for sure. I wonder what the back story is with him at UGA? Obviously playing time wasn’t it. UD now has two foreign players. When was the last time UD had two foreign players? I guess a couple years ago Svboda and Kostas but Kostas played HS bball in US so does that count? Assuming no, I don’t recall ever having two at one time? One last question...has UD ever gained a transfer from a power 5 school that averaged 13 and 7? That is rare!

Camara was very close to committing back in 2019 so it’s not that much of a stretch. Crean has already lost something like 12 players to the transfer portal since he’s been at UGA. I think he can be a bit of a jerk to play for.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer No one mentioned Dwayne Cohill. I think he will be a leader and if his defense is as good as it was before his injury he will be another guard that gets the majority of the minutes at the 2 guard! I hope he has been shooting many threes to improve his percentage from there! Sorry, TommyGola, I missed your post above!

I mentioned him too, as far as bringing
the defense...)

[DallasFlyer]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer This is a game changer for sure...we just went from sort of a rebuilding year with an outside chance to make the tourney to a reloading year with a very good chance of making the tourney. My expectation now (barring injuries or other crazy scenarios) is that we should make the tourney. Great job by the staff!

Toumani is a great get for sure. I do think we absolutely have a tourney-caliber front court now (Holmes, Washington, Amzil, Nwokeje, Blakney, Toumani) but my concern is in the back court where we have solid role players (Weaver, Cohill and Brea) and a pair of freshman (Greer and Smith). It's a guard-driven game and that's where we are lacking IMO. We're missing that big time scoring guard and playmaker. Maybe Rocket Watts can be that guy? I'll take him over Lundy if that's the choice here.

[Boroflyerfan01]

Honestly after watching him play he really reminds me Justin Tillman out of VCU a few years back. If he could fill that same role for this team it would be huge! Also cycling him daron, Mustapha, and other supporting players like Zimi through the 4 and 5 is a huge luxury. This team will be a lot more athletic and a lot deeper. Huge get AG and staff!!
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[UD_PAC_2006]

Originally Posted by TA111 Weaver, Smith and Greer. I think we’re fine.

You don't want two freshman getting serious minutes at PG. Fine is a stretch at least for next season.

[DallasFlyer]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma None of the above comments mentioned Brea who is considered a forward at 6’6”. But, what I saw was a very skinny player who could slip to compete at shooting guard rather than small forward. He seems to handle the ball very well. Posted via Mobile Device

Brea is listed as a guard on Dayton's roster. Blakney is actually the one guy who is listed as a forward/guard, but he's a small forward IMO.

[FlyerinChicago]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Doubt it. With today's announcement you can also go ahead and scratch off Parker Fox and Efton Reid. I'm guessing Rocket Watts is now the #1 target for the remaining scholarship. Don't sleep on Seth Lundy either since he is more of a "small" forward with 3-pt shooting ability. After what he did in the VCU game I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Agree on Lundy. Greer has been campaigning hard for him

[Hobopotamus1]

Whoa. Highlights with commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIA5NFS3KyI

[San Diego Flyer]

What I'm seeing more than anything else is genuine internal competition with our whole roster. No "entitled " players like Crutcher and Chatman. Minutes will be earned this year.

That's not to imply that C&C were unworthy, but true competition for minutes is healthy.

Go Flyers!

[TA111]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer What I'm seeing more than anything else is genuine internal competition with our whole roster. No "entitled " players like Crutcher and Chatman. Minutes will be earned this year. That's not to imply that C&C were unworthy, but true competition for minutes is healthy. Go Flyers!

In addition, I doubt you’ll see players getting 38 minutes per game with the additional depth.

[Monster Man]

Originally Posted by Hobopotamus1 Whoa. Highlights with commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIA5NFS3KyI

I’m hesitant to make the comparison, but he reminds me of a left-handed Obi. He can really run and jump and is very good in transition. His outside shot shows promise and he’s an excellent rebounder. Another outstanding get by CAG and staff.

[San Diego Flyer]

Watching Camara's highlights is stunning. We are accustomed to seeing good high school level highlights, but this cat is breaking out at a D-1 level size and agility. SEC tier one competition. Impressive.

He is not yet a 3pt stroker. How does Ibi feel at this point? IMO we can still use his veteran contribution.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Medford @ 6'-8", I wonder how that plays with Holmes and the slew of guys on the roster that are of similar height? As a top 40 recruit, I think many would expect Holmes to get lots of playing time, Zimi, Amzil, MO and Blankney are also fighting for that same time not to mention Washington himself a top 150 recruit. I can think of worse problems to have, but that is a lot of young men all fighting for time at the 3-5 spots (not to mention that some of those minutes are going to be ate up by guys viewed more as guards in a 3 guard set).

Nope. Not gonna worry about this. Usually these things short themselves out. We can now be much more aggressive on defense. As these young guys mature, the overall team performance should not drop when the starters come out. I think Zimi & Amzil benefit a ton by these guys presence. Higher level practice competition and a relentless wave of talent coming at our competition.

Someone get North Carolina on the phone...tell 'em we're coming down to kick some @ss.

[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by steverino015 I mentioned him too, as far as bringing the defense...)

I know you did! Also sorry I missed your above comment. I too believe he is a good defender. I just hope he looks for his shots more but it shouldn't be a problem next season with the current and new players we have coming in!

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by Jeff Nope. Not gonna worry about this. Usually these things short themselves out. We can now be much more aggressive on defense. As these young guys mature, the overall team performance should not drop when the starters come out. I think Zimi & Amzil benefit a ton by these guys presence. Higher level practice competition and a relentless wave of talent coming at our competition. Someone get North Carolina on the phone...tell 'em we're coming down to kick some @ss.

I would really like to see us play defense like VCU and Baylor play defense. We are going to have a deep bench of players who have either a proven track record at the college level, or highly ranked recruits. Next year will be the year to see if Grant wants to give this a shot.

[moville]

He attended Chaminade Prep in Florida. I wonder if the Marianist connection had anything to do with his selection?

[Viperstick]

Look who's behind Toumani on the 2022 power forwards ranking...


https://nbadraftroom.com/toumani-camara/

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by soccergod I’m thinking he has 3 years eligibility left ! Anyone want to confirm this ? Posted via Mobile Device

Officially he has three years left. I don’t think his plans include sticking around that long. I view his skill set as very comparable to Obi’s. If he gets his 3 point shooting to lower/mid 30’s he’s NBA bound.

[steverino015]

a couple sites Ihave been too have
projected him as a future late 1st
round/mid 2nd round draft pick..

couldn't see if this was after this upcoming
season, or 2 seasons from now...
his ceiling is certainly very very high..

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Viperstick Look who's behind Toumani on the 2022 power forwards ranking... https://nbadraftroom.com/toumani-camara/

#5 is JR Thor. I'd give up my royal thrown get a player with that name!

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer I would really like to see us play defense like VCU and Baylor play defense. We are going to have a deep bench of players who have either a proven track record at the college level, or highly ranked recruits. Next year will be the year to see if Grant wants to give this a shot.

We need to start with the weight room, and add 15 lbs of muscle/player me thinks. Camara has a head start on it. He's already Obi's size.

[steverino015]

oh Lawd yes, Amzil with 20 to 30
lbs of muscle on his frame, holy cow!

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by steverino015 oh Lawd yes, Amzil with 20 to 30 lbs of muscle on his frame, holy cow!

I think Amzil is going to become a spot shooter with some ability to drive, and also rebound / pass. A Mikesell type who can shoot.

[Flyer Al]

Originally Posted by Gazoo I think Amzil is going to become a spot shooter with some ability to drive, and also rebound / pass. A Mikesell type who can shoot.

I definitely can see the Mikesell comparison.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al I definitely can see the Mikesell comparison.

Actually, I think Amzil is a better outside shooter. When he can square up, he is a very good outside shooter. At this point, he is unable to shoot the 3-ball off the dribble; but, frankly, not many D-1 players can do that.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Actually, I think Amzil is a better outside shooter. When he can square up, he is a very good outside shooter. At this point, he is unable to shoot the 3-ball off the dribble; but, frankly, not many D-1 players can do that.

Amzil - 49.6% overall, 38.2 from three and 76.5 on free throws

Mikesell - 47.8, 26,1 and 67.7 his senior year

Amzil is a much better shooter, is taller, and both guys do not jump well. We are comparing a Frosh, with no pre-season, to a five year guy. I'll take Amzil anyday, anyway.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by springborofan Officially he has three years left. I don’t think his plans include sticking around that long. I view his skill set as very comparable to Obi’s. If he gets his 3 point shooting to lower/mid 30’s he’s NBA bound.

This. It really is a different game now. What do you want? Do you want a player to come in and immediately turn your team from one of development and rebuilding into an instant NCAA tournament participant or do you want them to hang around for 3 years and exhaust their eligibility. You can't have both.

As a fan who wants to see this program advance to NCAA championship contender and be able to compete with the blue bloods for players and rankings, I would prefer a parade of 1 and 2 year NBA potential to the guy who's going to be at his best in his final year of eligibility and still not good enough for the NBA.

[Sid Louick]

Maybe I simply missed it in the Camara writeups, but has there been anything indicating why he decided to leave Georgia? It seems like he had a good situation there.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Sid Louick Maybe I simply missed it in the Camara writeups, but has there been anything indicating why he decided to leave Georgia? It seems like he had a good situation there.

Crean has lost 12 players to the portal in the past 3 years. I think that speaks for itself.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by jack72 Amzil - 49.6% overall, 38.2 from three and 76.5 on free throws Mikesell - 47.8, 26,1 and 67.7 his senior year Amzil is a much better shooter, is taller, and both guys do not jump well. We are comparing a Frosh, with no pre-season, to a five year guy. I'll take Amzil anyday, anyway.

Ryan was a glue guy, but Amzil has a much higher ceiling.

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 This. It really is a different game now. What do you want? Do you want a player to come in and immediately turn your team from one of development and rebuilding into an instant NCAA tournament participant or do you want them to hang around for 3 years and exhaust their eligibility. You can't have both. As a fan who wants to see this program advance to NCAA championship contender and be able to compete with the blue bloods for players and rankings, I would prefer a parade of 1 and 2 year NBA potential to the guy who's going to be at his best in his final year of eligibility and still not good enough for the NBA.

I definitely wasn’t complaining...just stating what I think his mindset is. To answer the question, I think a team is best served to have both. The UK one and done model has passed its shelf life. The best team construction is what the 19/20 Flyer team was. A couple studs (Obi, Crutcher), a couple older glue guys (Mikesell, Landers), a couple good defenders, a couple good shooters, a banger, and some younger players who will develop into the future glue guys.

Interestingly, if you look back on Don Donoher’s teams, most of his successful teams had this construction. It’s when he didn’t have a Smith/Sylvester, Davis, Paxson, or Chapman that they struggled. He had plenty of the other guys, just not a bell cow. Camera is a bell cow...I believe Holmes will be too. Amzil, Blakeney, and others just need to find their roles. Weaver and Cohill need to understand this as the oldest players. As for this year, I don’t think Chatman ever accepted the role he should have played.

	Don Donoher DON DONOHER Legendary Flyer men's basketball coach who guided Dayton to 435 victories in 25 seasons (1964-1989) including the 1967 NCAA Runner-Up. Took over the program after the passing of Tom Blackburn and earned many NCAA and NIT bids over his career, including five Sweet-16s, one Elite Eight appearance, and the 1968 NIT Championship. Groomed All-Americans Don May and Jim Paxson, along with all-time leading scorer Roosevelt Chapman. Coached UD as they joined conference affiliation for the first time (Midwest Collegiate). A graduate of UD, Donoher played for Blackburn and credits much of his coaching success to his mentor's teachings: defense, ball protection, patience, and unselfishness.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by springborofan I definitely wasn’t complaining...just stating what I think his mindset is. To answer the question, I think a team is best served to have both. The UK one and done model has passed its shelf life. The best team construction is what the 19/20 Flyer team was. A couple studs (Obi, Crutcher), a couple older glue guys (Mikesell, Landers), a couple good defenders, a couple good shooters, a banger, and some younger players who will develop into the future glue guys. Interestingly, if you look back on Don Donoher’s teams, most of his successful teams had this construction. It’s when he didn’t have a Smith/Sylvester, Davis, Paxson, or Chapman that they struggled. He had plenty of the other guys, just not a bell cow. Camera is a bell cow...I believe Holmes will be too. Amzil, Blakeney, and others just need to find their roles. Weaver and Cohill need to understand this as the oldest players. As for this year, I don’t think Chatman ever accepted the role he should have played.

Oh, I was just adding to your comment, I wasn't debating it. I just meant in general, when a guy transfers to you anymore, you want quality rather than quantity.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by jack72 Amzil - 49.6% overall, 38.2 from three and 76.5 on free throws Mikesell - 47.8, 26,1 and 67.7 his senior year Amzil is a much better shooter, is taller, and both guys do not jump well. We are comparing a Frosh, with no pre-season, to a five year guy. I'll take Amzil anyday, anyway.

Loved Mikesell, but this is spot on.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 This. It really is a different game now. What do you want? Do you want a player to come in and immediately turn your team from one of development and rebuilding into an instant NCAA tournament participant or do you want them to hang around for 3 years and exhaust their eligibility. You can't have both. As a fan who wants to see this program advance to NCAA championship contender and be able to compete with the blue bloods for players and rankings, I would prefer a parade of 1 and 2 year NBA potential to the guy who's going to be at his best in his final year of eligibility and still not good enough for the NBA.

Interesting in that in a recent thread, there was a lot of quoting Villanova's "get old, and stay old" approach. Best answer may be a mix, however this way is exciting.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Jeff Interesting in that in a recent thread, there was a lot of quoting Villanova's "get old, and stay old" approach. Best answer may be a mix, however this way is exciting.

I agree, mix would be best. However, I was referring specifically to Camara. And if he's good enough to step in and take a team with hardly any experience straight to the NCAA tournament then he's most likely too good to hang around for a 5th season. I never thought that a Trey Landers or Ryan Mikesell would be good enough to do that, but certainly know they were a necessary part of us having the leadership and talent to do what we did last year.

[lhsgolf19]

Camara has officially signed
https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status...42161857802247

[steverino015]

yay!!

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Camara has officially signed https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status...42161857802247

This guy just looks like a beast. He's going to add the physicality this team desperately needed.