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Hey, I want want to jump on the crazy optimistic bandwagon. After all our backcourt is anchored by the 4th best guard on the 7th best team in the a10..... and now he has help from the 8th highest scorer on perhaps the worst team in Big East history. Where do I sign up for my final four tickets?
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Blakney will be THE guy this season - that is my prediction.
Pencil me in as Amzil being the guy that gets even better than his extremely good freshman year.
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Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
Thanks for the preview…I guess Weaver and Elvis are first on the list. Next?
Weaver would have been the 4th best guard with the top three guards from last year being the three senior guards. I'd have to agree that guard play is still a question mark at this point.
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Originally Posted by bcross View Post
Weaver would have been the 4th best guard with the top three guards from last year being the three senior guards. I'd have to agree that guard play is still a question mark at this point.
good writeup from June 14 on one of the
question marks "at this point", Malachi Smith
think we are in good hands.....https://bvmsports.com/2021/06/14/all...dayton-career/
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Lynn Greer III interview, discusses the
team, the coaches the other players
coming to Dayton. During the interview,
he said he was pitching UD to Efton Reid
at that time he had not decided...

played 1 prep season at IMG Academy
after high school to keep working on
his game...

the freshman have not had 1 minute
of practice yet... but I am still
a half full glass, think we are in good hands
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8Se0hJE3U&t=216s

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Originally Posted by steverino015 View Post
good writeup from June 14 on one of the
question marks "at this point", Malachi Smith
think we are in good hands.....https://bvmsports.com/2021/06/14/all...dayton-career/
Right and I am optimistic that he and the other freshman will have great careers here as well. The question is at what level they will be able to contribute as freshman.
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good writeup from June 14 on one of the
question marks "at this point", Malachi Smith
think we are in good hands.....https://bvmsports.com/2021/06/14/all...dayton-career/
His resume and rep have the feel of the second coming of Kyle Davis.
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Right and I am optimistic that he and the other freshman will have great careers here as well. The question is at what level they will be able to contribute as freshman.
I am optimistic, you will like how
that question is answered...)
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we have a player Camara, who is right now
projected as a late 1st round/mid 2nd round..
He can be a difference maker....
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-dr...year-mock=2022

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https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-dr...year-mock=2022

#44 to Golden State
good research finding this...

and that will be yet another
UD Flyer in the NBA in that
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really really good get by CAG
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"Lunardi: If you made a list of programs outside the Power 5/Big East that have the most going for them, I'm not sure second place behind Gonzaga wouldn't be the Dayton Flyers. There's a reason the NCAA continues to hold its First Four event in Dayton. It is a genuine major program in every respect: facilities, access to players, fan base, history and (with one giant asterisk) recent success.

Imagine if the 2020 NCAA tournament had been played. Imagine the No. 1 seed Flyers winning it all with Obi Toppin & Co. Dayton was more than good enough, but with an infrastructure and institutional commitment to sustain that success at a level greater than, say, Loyola Chicago or Butler (each of whom lost their version of Mark Few).

The Flyers get players and, with alum Anthony Grant in charge after flaming out in the SEC, have a likely long-term jockey. Even without an Obi Toppin, I'd buy low on Dayton."
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Red & Blue Game coming Mid-October per Neil Sullivan, also expects a Full Arena

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Awesome!
Hopefully we will get mucho first hand reports on our studs. I'm dying to hear something about our players in action.
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Red & Blue Game coming Mid-October per Neil Sullivan, also expects a Full Arena

Awesome!
Indeed:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...OA3JGA3FUMXNY/
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Wow, who knew!!!!!!
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Brian Roberts watched Dayton practice today. As far as I know, this is the first report of any kind about how the 2021-22 Flyers look this summer.
https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...129138688?s=20
(Have to read the tweet to see Brian's comments, I couldn't copy them)

Speaking of Brian Roberts, another tweet with link to a story with a video of Brian talking about the 29-2 season
https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...621701122?s=20

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I don’t know much about these guys, but they do a pretty in depth analysis of each team and have the Flyers projected as the most talented team in the league with the most upside.
https://staringatthefloorboards.word...eason-preview/
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Weaver - Smith - Elvis - Brea - Greer
Amzil - Blakney - Washington
Zimi - Holmes - Camara
Sissoko - Amaefule

Who from this group will step up on the defense side of the ball?

As of now, I can only see Weaver and Camara as the only possibilities - maybe guys like Holmes and Blakney will step up?
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Who from this group will step up on the defense side of the ball?
Holmes. Early and often.
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Biggest question for me, is who is going to step up and be the reliable outside threat that this offense needs. 2 seasons ago, UD had 3 players (Crutch, Watson and Obi) all around the 40% mark on a fairly solid number of attempts. PG, Wing, Post really allowed that offense to spread out the defense and prevent teams from packing things inside.


Last year, Ibi remained fairly consistent (though he ran hot/cold thru the course of multiple games IIRC), while Crutch dipped a bit and they lost the contributions that Rodney was able to add on the perimeter for much of the year. Of course, Obi wasn't there either.


amzil, Weaver, Blankney, Zimi and Brea all shot a semi-decent % from 3 land, but all came on relatively low volume attempts. Who is going to step up and become a high volume, high % 3 point threat that the opposing team has to keep a body on to open up lanes for drives (and dishes)?
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Holmes. Early and often.
In watching video of complete games with Holmes, I was impressed with his defense. He is not a super-athletic leaper, but he has great timing and instincts on defense.
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Biggest question for me, is who is going to step up and be the reliable outside threat that this offense needs.

amzil, Weaver, Blankney, Zimi and Brea all shot a semi-decent % from 3 land, but all came on relatively low volume attempts. Who is going to step up and become a high volume, high % 3 point threat that the opposing team has to keep a body on to open up lanes for drives (and dishes)?
You are right that the sample size was too small for all of the players to make a good statistical conclusion. I think we can only go by what we saw last year which makes it much more subjective.

My take based on shooting form is Amzil and Brea were more pure shooters. Blakney seemed middle of the road. Weaver and Zimi were the least solid in their mechanics. I’m sure others will have a different opinion.

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Completely forgot about Kobe Elvis transferring in. Sample size on 3 pointers is small, but the % of makes was very good (42%). Throw in Greer, Washington, Holmes and Smith (though I don't like to count on true frosh to be a reliable threat of perimeter scoring) and UD has a lot of different potential players, of varying size that can help keep the lanes open.


If someone had disappeared under a rock in 2020 (and frankly, who wouldn't have liked to have done that?) this roster is completely unrecognizable. I have to imagine the spread between their floor and their ceiling is amongst the largest in college basketball.
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I have to imagine the spread between their floor and their ceiling is amongst the largest in college basketball.
I think this is a very profound statement and I agree 100%.
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If someone had disappeared under a rock in 2020 (and frankly, who wouldn't have liked to have done that?) this roster is completely unrecognizable. I have to imagine the spread between their floor and their ceiling is amongst the largest in college basketball.
Definitely agree about the ceiling; not as much on the floor. With Amzil, Zimi and Camara, I think the floor is a little easier to project. I can't see us being below .500 as a floor even if the pieces don't quite fit this year or if they take a while to gel.

The ceiling is crazy to project. I always base my confidence in the "if" quantity. The more ifs the lower my projection. This team flies in the face of that. There are a ton of ifs... especially in the backcourt. It just seems like the talent level of those ifs is higher than ever and that the probability that all of them not working out is low. Which is a pragmatic way of saying that even if multiple ifs don't work, I still think enough will that we are going to be good. It is more a matter of are we good with several disappointments or are we really good with a ton of depth.
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Definitely agree about the ceiling; not as much on the floor. With Amzil, Zimi and Camara, I think the floor is a little easier to project.
This might not be as profound but it is on point. Weaver and Elvis also played 20 mins/game (like Zimi did). Amzil and Camara averaged 30.

We are extremely young on paper, 11/13 classified as freshman if I count correctly, but this is misleading when you look at raw minutes returning.

30+30+20+20+20 = 120/200 minutes returning (when you include incoming transfers)

Makes you think.
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makes me think it will be very enjoyable to
see how they grow as a team, and each player...)
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Definitely agree about the ceiling; not as much on the floor. With Amzil, Zimi and Camara, I think the floor is a little easier to project. I can't see us being below .500 as a floor even if the pieces don't quite fit this year or if they take a while to gel.

The ceiling is crazy to project. I always base my confidence in the "if" quantity. The more ifs the lower my projection. This team flies in the face of that. There are a ton of ifs... especially in the backcourt. It just seems like the talent level of those ifs is higher than ever and that the probability that all of them not working out is low. Which is a pragmatic way of saying that even if multiple ifs don't work, I still think enough will that we are going to be good. It is more a matter of are we good with several disappointments or are we really good with a ton of depth.
Bucketnight: Did you just say, “multiple ifs”. I love ya’ man! But you go back and read your own post; you have to admit that this post is one of the most zen-like, analytical and almost spiritual blog post of all-time. We, as a group, are clearly showing signs of significant withdrawal pains from lack of college hoops.

I think, I will go back and re-watch the NCAA final four games that I have recorded.

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Bucketnight: Did you just say, “multiple ifs”. I love ya’ man! But you go back and read your own post; you have to admit that this post is one of the most zen-like, analytical and almost spiritual blog post of all-time. We, as a group, are clearly showing signs of significant withdrawal pains from lack of college hoops.

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Lol... it was actually the result of the bartender at the Tampa Embassy Suites misunderstanding my order and making my 4 Gin & Tonics doubles.

I was feeling pretty philosophical.
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Lol... it was actually the result of the bartender at the Tampa Embassy Suites misunderstanding my order and making my 4 Gin & Tonics doubles.

I was feeling pretty philosophical.
Whatever. I’ll have what you’re drinking!
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